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I view holy scriptures as possibly being from God, but filtered through im-perfect humans, thus subject to error. Also remeber the Bible and other books weren`t written in English, eh? Many things can get `lost in translation` or just plain messed up.
You know when Adam and Eve get kicked out of Eden, their sons (Cain and Able) took wives. Where did these women come from? eh? Yes the Bible, even Genesis, is a parable, not literal.
it wouldnt be a miracle of nature, it would be "ant made"
Artificial Selection is the process by which changes are made to an animal, by selectively breeding. Breeding of dogs has always been about selecting strengths and weeding out weaknesses to serve us. We want a dog that can go down a hole, so we select the smaller dogs to breed. We want a dog to herd our sheep, so we breed the smarter dogs. Survival of the species has nothing to do with it. Survival of the species has nothing to do with the breeding of these cattle.
2) I never said I believed in God, just asked the question. If God, as defined in the Bible (and Torah and Quran), exists, and the Bible is known to use parables, whose to say that the story of Creation isn`t a parable? Isn`t it possible that this God, if He exists, used evolution as a means to create life?
PS. would someone get rid of the spam bot Kelly1411 please
If humans are natural, then this *is* natural selection. Smart humans out-survive dumb humans. Smart humans create big cows to feed more humans.
Tasty, tasty murder.
I think you just ate a Turkey leg...;-)
If cows were meant to be that big, they would have gotten that big naturally to survive in nature. these weird cows cantr be all that healthy.
but perhaps having them this large would make it so even less cows suffered to become food each year?
i am not against eating meat. you need it not to survive, but be healthy. what i am against is the terrible way thet the livestock is treated until it BECOMES meat.
The "a solution" is what makes me wonder...
Stand in the middle of your average "small" bushfire helping fight it and then tell me how weak and victimized the planet is. Earth pwns us, it ain`t no victim believe me.
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My personal view is, the sooner we drop this religious dogamtic "carte blanche" attitude (which is spelt out pretty clearly in the Bible and other holy books), which gives us humans moral justification for pwning all other life on the planet, all the better.
We seriously need to move as a species towards an attitude of custodianship, where we are just another inhabitant of this planet, and we have no more right to be here than the cows. Or the wombats. Or the fungi. Or whatever.
If we get there in time, we might just save the planet. And surely there`s no nobler cause than that?
Genetic Engineering is totally in accordance with God`s orders.[/quote]
Fair enough Lionhart, and not interested in getting into a theological debate on a post about Arnie Cows, nor do I want to side with Madest who has always (to me at least) had a faint whiff of the troll about him...
Duuh, you don`t get any earlier in the Bible than Genesis 1, where it distinctly says "God said to them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion [total power] over the fish, and the birds of the air, and over every living thing"
Genetic Engineering is totally in accordance with God`s orders.
(Where were all the seamen they were talking about?)
Guy who collects bull semen = worst. job. ever.
@ 2) If God is all powerfull, then why has He endowed us with the abillity to defy what is written in the Bible?
however i think this is the belgian blue, and they are sometimes double muscled, so if you keep selecting the double muscled beasts and feeding them high protein diets, this kind of thing is bound to happen.... p.s. how big will the ribs be on that bad boy!!!!
Two thing (ignoring that we`re talking about a bull and not a cow):
1) It wasn`t Natural Selection. It was HUMAN Selection that made that bull.
2) The Bible is full of parables. Who`s to say that the stories of Creation aren`t parables, and that God didn`t use evolution as His means to creating the animals we see around us?
They made... cow heaven =O
What they ought to do when they shave it is to shave the Superman "S" on its chest or sides. You know, just so there`s no confusion.