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    wateva_x Female 13-17
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    October 3, 2009 at 9:52 pm
    Link: Boy, 4, Dies After Supermarket Fall - Parents are suing the supermarket for negligence- and they`re not American. Should the supermarket face legal action?
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    Boadicea Female 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 12:08 pm
    No the supermarket should not face legal action. I don`t hold it against the parents though: their kid died and they want to be able to point their finger at someone/thing and say "it`s your fault he`s gone". But poo happens, and unless the supermarket held a gun to his head and said `flip around that rail`, umm no.
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    baileyabb Female 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 12:12 pm
    ..The poor child is lucky, sounds like being in the hands of those parents would have made for another ignorant citizen.

    It`s YOUR f*cking child! YOU are responsible for what happens.God damn it, now I`m pissed.

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    HarryBalszak Male 40-49
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    October 4, 2009 at 12:12 pm
    "The rail shouldn`t have been there"

    I guess the concrete floor shouldn`t have been there, either.

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    APJ311 Male 13-17
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    October 4, 2009 at 12:13 pm
    I live near Liverpool! I don`t think Somerfield actually did anything wrong.
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    Clayboy Male 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 12:13 pm
    Its not really stated as to what the railing had to do with his fall, so I don`t think anyone can fairly say which side is at fault.
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    Gunit1 Female 13-17
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    October 4, 2009 at 12:14 pm
    The mom wasn`t watching her kid, it`s her fault. I do feel bad for her and the whole family but just because the kid died there doesn`t mean the store should have to pay because the mom wasn`t watching.
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    Zuki Female 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 12:16 pm
    What does not being American have anything to do with whether they should be sued or not?

    Personally I don`t think the store is at fault, the mother should have been watching her kid.

    But had the store really been at fault it doesn`t matter if someone`s not American, they were still at fault.

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    Freelop Male 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 12:17 pm
    I don`t get the "They`re not American" statement, but I don`t think the supermarket should pay.

    It is ironic that the parents are sueing for negligence considering that if the parent had been paying attention to the child and told him off for it nothing would have happened.

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    ListerStorm Male 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 12:18 pm
    Stupid kid shouldn`t have been on the rail. People need to take responsibility for thier actions, whatever the consequence. How exactly is money from the supermarket going to make up for th death of thier kid anyway?
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    NoArms5534 Male 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 12:18 pm
    Seriously. Accidents happen, you can`t just sue because your kid died. Who told him to swing from the railing? Sounds like the parents should be sued for child negligence.
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    TopperHey Male 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 12:19 pm
    There`s no chance they`ll win this. The lawyer just wants the cash. I`ll eat my own head if they do.
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    gamerx47 Male 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 12:20 pm
    Idk, can`t really see how its the store`s fault.
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    Boadicea Female 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 12:20 pm
    Why is just the mom`s fault? He presumably has a father as well, WHO ALSO HAS EYES.

    And typically it`s litigious Americans starting these stupid lawsuits, hence the title. God people.

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    ggolbez Male 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 12:20 pm
    Seriously? They`re suing the supermarket because the dumb bimbo wasn`t paying attention to her kid?

    In their ideal situation, what would the supermarket have done different? Should the supermarket have someone following each kid and take them off railings for them?

    This is a classic example of how parents want everyone but themselves to parent their kids. And when it doesn`t happen, they blame other people.

    As tragic as the loss of life of a child is, it was an accident. If ANYONE is to blame, it`s the parents for not attending to their kids.

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    Gothin123 Male 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 12:20 pm
    I would have to agree in the article they say the railing shouldn`t have been in the state it was in but what other "state" would it be in?Laying on the ground?No because someone could trip over it then right.It is possible for Accidents to happen for no reason more people should realize that.
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    itsallfake Male 30-39
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    October 4, 2009 at 12:23 pm
    "...while the parents were yards away shopping..." Yards? They don`t really say how many yards do they? 5, 10? yards is plural, which means it is at minimum 2 yards. And you really wouldn`t say "yards" if it was 6 feet (2 yards). So likely the parents left their kid in an area they thought would be ok, where he wouldn`t destroy anything (he was 4 after all) to do some shopping. If they admitted they left him unattended, being Britain, they would end up in jail on top of losing their child.
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    Slmmhmmr161 Male 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 12:26 pm
    Keep an eye on your kids. Its the parents fault, not the stores.
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    simbha Male 30-39
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    October 4, 2009 at 12:27 pm
    "Parents are suing the supermarket for negligence- and they`re not American. Should the supermarket face legal action?"

    Not sure what the statement "they`re not American" is intended to mean. Are you implying that they shouldn`t be able to sue because they`re not American? If so, did you notice that this took place in the UK?

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    Boadicea Female 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 12:29 pm
    OH MY GOD SHE JUST MEANT THAT USUALLY AMERICANS START FRIVOLOUS LAWSUITS. AND THIS ISN`T AN AMERICAN SITUATION, FOR ONCE. GET IT?
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    seabass101dg Male 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 12:31 pm
    next thing you know there are going to be warning signs on walls in your home....
    "Caution. Walls can incur concussions and even death. Be careful when near a wall."
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    itsallfake Male 30-39
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    October 4, 2009 at 12:32 pm
    "Not sure what the statement "they`re not American" is intended to mean. Are you implying that they shouldn`t be able to sue because they`re not American? If so, did you notice that this took place in the UK?"

    No, they are implying about the absurd amounts of frivolous lawsuits we americans unleash upon each other because we have this need to be rich and famous that the two most common get rich quick schemes we americans do daily is play the lottery and sue people for drinking hot coffee...

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    Mornaf Male 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 12:34 pm
    hold up, so the kid was swinging on railing, and fell..., stores don`t just put up railing anywhere.
    dammit, I wish there was a picture of where the railing was, I mean, if it was on a ramp or something, that would be different than if some random employee just put of railing in the middle of the store.
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    emily1991 Female 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 12:36 pm
    So cos they cant keep an eye on their kids it`s the supermarkets fault? Stupid people... shop workers aren`t there to babysit their kids, that should be there job. You`d see it all the time at my last job, kids playing on rails and stuff, sitting on really unstable shelves cos their parents couldn`t be bothered to watch them, or tell them not to do certain things,but you can bet if something was to happen to the kid it would suddenly be OUR fault.. The rail was not designed to be played on, so how the hell is it the shop`s fault?
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    Devin88 Male 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 12:36 pm
    Thats why i do the hourly walk-around at my store! Say yes to clean store, say no to shoppers on the floor!
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    a1butcher Male 40-49
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    October 4, 2009 at 12:39 pm
    Clean-up in aisle three.....
    Seriously now, the kid should have been wearing a helmut I guess, (NOT).
    He could have hit his head anywhere the poor little guy.
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    Coco_popsrox Female 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 12:40 pm
    maybe the parents should have kept a bloody eye on him.
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    icfire504 Male 13-17
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    October 4, 2009 at 12:41 pm
    It was totally the stores fault! I mean after all they should not have had a pole that obviously a kid would want to play on in that state. They should have put spikes on it or something. And they should have made the floors rubber too for good measure and for more idiot-kid safety.
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    madduck Female 50-59
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    October 4, 2009 at 12:44 pm
    I know they are destroyed after losing their child, but sueing the store will not help one iota. Accidents happen, the world is not totally safe.
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    Asspenny Male 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 12:44 pm
    @boadicea: probably because the dad wasn`t there.

    and I don`t see how this could be construed as the stores fault. The kid wasn`t using the railing as intended and that`s the mom`s fault for not paying attention

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    Stane Male 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 12:45 pm
    "His devastated mother was shopping just yards away when the tragedy happened."

    That right there should be proof enough that it was the stupid mother`s fault.

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    madest Male 40-49
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    October 4, 2009 at 12:50 pm
    accidents happen
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    ohthedrama Male 30-39
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    October 4, 2009 at 12:50 pm
    I would like to see a picture of where the kid was playing cause until I see it this is clearly the parent`s fault. He`s 4. Why isn`t he in the cart?
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    Boadicea Female 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 12:50 pm
    Oh haha I seem to have overlooked that part. Alrighty then.

    But yeah I agree with like everyone here. It`s not the store`s job to babyproof everything. If the kid had walked into the corner of the building, would they be suing for it having sharp corners? I think not.

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    Fartacus Female 50-59
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    October 4, 2009 at 12:51 pm
    He hit his head on the floor. Supermarket should be sued for not covering the floor with pillows.
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    Nidonemo Male 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 12:58 pm
    Sorry lady for your loss, but it`s your responsibility to know where your kid is and what he`s doing at all times at that age.

    Shame on you for blaming everyone else but yourself.

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    Ani187 Female 30-39
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    October 4, 2009 at 12:58 pm
    It`s very tragic, but I can`t feel too much sympathy for the parents when they clearly weren`t keeping a good eye on their kid. At 4 he should have been *in* the cart, and his mother shouldn`t have been "just yards away shopping". You can`t baby/kid proof the world, that`s why you have to take responsibility for your kid.
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    fancylady Female 30-39
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    October 4, 2009 at 1:03 pm
    all I had to do was read the first line ,"he was swinging on a small railing " that would be the parents fault . They have no grounds to sue .
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    RecycleElf Male 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 1:03 pm
    Why is IAB hosting links to tragic news like this`? I mean.. sure its sad. and sure this link has brought the up the question "who`s fault was it really?". But is this link really, erally entertaining? I mean... i know iab is suppose to find amuzing links, but if i want news, i go to some online newspaper, seriusly.

    why not host the next link as "Who are we and why are we here?"?...

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    Boadicea Female 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 1:08 pm
    There are other links dude. It`s called VARIETY.
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    Bremir Male 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 1:09 pm
    I remember hearing about this, and I think the same now as I did then. She should have been watching her damn kid.

    It`s not the stores fault, it`s her fault. Her kid was four years old and she let him go off? Idiot.

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    Vhreio Male 30-39
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    October 4, 2009 at 1:13 pm
    Scum trying to bag some money for their kid`s death.
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    shaboinkin Male 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 1:15 pm
    I don`t see how you can blame anyone for this! He was just swinging on a pole, falls, hit his head a certain way, and by a freak accident, he dies...You can`t blame ANYONE for that.
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    leesah Female 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 1:17 pm
    Hey, parents, watch your goddamn kids. I hope whatever judge gets this case tell the parents they`re idiots and laughs them out of the courtroom.
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    TheSharpest Male 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 1:19 pm
    "Should the supermarket face legal action? "

    Of course they should, I mean, they`re getting sued. What the hell kinda question is that?

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    akijade Female 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 1:20 pm
    Uhm, maybe she should have been watching her drating kid. Just an idea. I hope the store laughs at their suit. Sad that the kid died and all, don`t get me wrong, but it`s not the store`s fault. It`s the parents.
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    dm2754 Male 40-49
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    October 4, 2009 at 1:22 pm
    I always find it amusing how headlines are made as keywords rather than sentences.
    As for the article itself the irony of the parents are suing the store for neglect when they were not watching their own kid
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    Boadicea Female 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 1:24 pm
    The supermarket should sue the parents for negligence. OH.
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 1:25 pm
    This will be thrown out of court unless the `parents` can prove it was genuinely unsafe, which I doubt, since supermarkets take measures ensuring safety.

    Stupid people. First they don`t pay attention to their kid, which results in the kid dying. Then they try to blame the store. Screw those former-parents. They didn`t deserve to have a kid to begin with.

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    demonangel00 Male 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 1:26 pm
    what a joke. that bitch should have been watching her kid. when i was his age my mother had me on a child leesh and in the shopping cart. thats what those child seats are for you dumb bimbo! the fact that their trying to get money is even lower.
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    xiquiripat Male 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 1:37 pm
    A supermarket is not a goddamn daycare! You are resonsible for looking after your children. Any negligence is on the parents part.
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    britt566 Female 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 1:40 pm
    I`m sure that kid would be pissed at all of you for saying those things about his mom and dad.
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    KeVsTeR2475 Male 13-17
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    October 4, 2009 at 1:45 pm
    notice how almost 30% is only on how his life in football was? talk about derailing.
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    opiebreath Female 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 1:53 pm
    Well Jesus, everything is dangerous if you look at it like that.
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    esopillar34 Male 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 1:55 pm
    "Harry Blackmore was swinging on a small steel rail when he fell in the store in Liverpool.

    His devastated mother was shopping just yards away when the tragedy happened."

    "The family said they were "so protective" over their son..."

    Something doesn`t add up here...

    I feel bad for her loss, but it`s not the store`s fault. They`ll probably settle out of court to avoid a messy trial, but really that mom should be ashamed of herself if she gets ANY money. If she sued for a change in protocol, that would be different- like that family who`s child died when he was given a hugely improper dose of medication- they sued the hospital, not for money, but for an overhaul in the medication labeling policy to insure that it never happens again. THAT`S acceptable.

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    oddstef Female 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 1:57 pm
    that article was poorly written.
    i don`t think it`s negligence, that`s like suing the ocean if someone drowns
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    riotDX Male 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 2:14 pm
    Short version of story: Negligent parent was negligent at grocery store, 4 year old son dies as a result, negligent parent wants money from grocery store because somehow it was their fault parent was negligent.
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    Fwoggie2 Male 30-39
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    October 4, 2009 at 2:17 pm
    I read about this in the news here. I`ve got sympathy for them, but they`ve not got a leg to stand on. A UK court will toss that straight out. Hell, even most American courts would. The supermarket will probably quietly chip them a couple of grand to pay for a decent funeral on proviso that said pay off doesn`t suggest any negligence on their part.

    Yeah, I`m British.

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    leesah Female 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 2:17 pm
    "I`m sure that kid would be pissed at all of you for saying those things about his mom and dad."

    I`m sure that kid would be alive if his mom and dad watched him like we`re saying they should have.

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    cobrakiller Male 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 2:21 pm
    this has nothing to do with the store, stuff happens. kids do dumb things and sometimes bad things come out of it. if anything at all it would be the mothers neglagence, not the stores.
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    RichardParke Male 30-39
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    October 4, 2009 at 2:33 pm
    Sympathy for the mother. Forever in the back of her mind is going to be the image of her sons simply avoided accident. She is also going to be known forever in her neighbourhood as the mother who let her child kill himself. It has nothing to do with the Supermarket, just an attempt by her to try and assuade the terrible guilt and regret she must be feeling. I wonder how many years the Supermarket has been in `that state` without an incident?
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    BetterBob Male 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 2:34 pm
    Here`s an idea, why don`t you watch your kid.

    "oh my god! my kid fell into a giant volcano, i`m going to sue!"

    How about, pay the drat attention?

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    almightybob1 Male 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 2:37 pm
    Sucks for the family, but they have to look after their own kids. Definitely not the supermarket`s fault, the family has no case.
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    TheSharpest Male 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 2:43 pm
    "Should the supermarket face legal action? "

    Of course they should, I mean, they`re getting sued. What the hell kinda question is that?

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    AZROSE Female 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 2:59 pm
    Parents should have been watching their kid. Don`t blame the store for the parents negligence.
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    Quackor Male 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 3:04 pm
    of course they should get their asses sued! that rail should have been swing-safe or if it wasnt a proper "no swinging and banging your head on the floor" sign should be placed.
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    last_ninja Male 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 3:04 pm
    i understand that she`s angry about her loss, but the kid hit his head on the floor. how is the supermarket supposed to protect against that?
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    KOLLO Female 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 3:05 pm
    what a load of turd. honestly, if this woman is looking for someone to blame then she should look in the mirror. in truth it was an accident, small child hits head on concrete floor. its a fluk that he dies, and very tragic. nobody is really to blame, but if they want to play the blame game the mother needs to look at herself for not holding handsand and being more vigilant in her small child safety. they were from liverpool though....
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    gorgack2000 Male 13-17
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    October 4, 2009 at 3:06 pm
    I would actually feel sorry for the mother if she wasn`t trying to blame her own negligence on the super-market. No sympathy now.
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    nibblette Female 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 3:34 pm
    as a mother of a 4 year old, this is tragic, but the mother should have had her child next to her and not let him play or swing on things. "growing up to be a proper boy" my tush, kids play, but parents are supposed to teach their children where it is appropriate and inappropriate to play. a store is not a play area.
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    osirisascend Male 40-49
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    October 4, 2009 at 3:35 pm
    What really sucks is that there are lawyers that will take this case, and the store will probably settle out of court.
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    Fox4Brawl Male 13-17
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    October 4, 2009 at 3:54 pm
    Its not a very descriptive story, as to this whole "rail" thing. But as I see it, its a public place. Its not some work site where there are dangers. Its true that the child should have been kept a better eye on, but at the same time, there shouldn`t be steel railings about in a place children will obviously be. It was negligence on both parts. But I favor on the parent side, because when I weigh letting your 4 year old obviously active kid out of your sight for a minute or two to steel railings hanging around the store, I think the store is providing the bigger problem
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    MildCorma Male 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 3:54 pm
    Tell your child to get off the drating railing then!
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    WhoaHeyDude Male 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 3:58 pm
    Glad to see mothers are even siding against this. For some reason I felt as if more people would be for the parents. I`m happy they`re not.
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    yepimbored Male 30-39
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    October 4, 2009 at 4:05 pm
    Parents need to keep their kids under control. As a small business owner, I can`t believe how parents these days will let their precious, unique snowflake run all over my store, destroy my property, and get upset if I ask the child to stop or say anything to the parent. I`m sick of these little pampered bastards- teach your kids how to behave in public!
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    Lionhart2 Male 40-49
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    October 4, 2009 at 4:10 pm
    Tragic, yes. So sorry for you that it happened. But get over it, accidents happen, the Universe, or God, or DavyMid, is to blame, not the supermarket. Poo happens, we all wish it hadn`t but how is destroying someone else financially going to help bring your child back.

    One of these days, I hope to live long enough to see the Supreme Court hand down a "Common Sense Says" verdict which once and for all says that not every piece of poo that goes down is someone`s legal fault.

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    MYCHEMGIRL Female 13-17
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    October 4, 2009 at 4:14 pm
    He was a `keen footballer?`
    And he was 4? Okay.
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    videogamer Male 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 4:18 pm
    I feel for the parents, I really do. But the problem is, they`re letting their emotions cloud their judgement. When enough time has passed, they`ll see that it was all just a freak accident, and all but unforeseeable by all related parties.

    I personally think people should not be allowed to sue until they have distanced themselves emotionally from the incident or unless they have friends who are not emotionally invested in the victim to do it for them.

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    motownc Male 30-39
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    October 4, 2009 at 4:36 pm
    It`s clearly Somerfield`s fault for having floors in their stores. Obviously everything these days should either let us float in an anti-gravity field or be made of marshmallow.
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    Max_Normal Male 30-39
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    October 4, 2009 at 4:39 pm
    Damn, my daughters 2 1/2. I really, really hate hearing about kids having accidents. I hope the parents will be ok, maybe this is some misplaced blame to help them with their grief, no parent could really try to cash in on the death of their child could they? If anything happened to mine my life would be finished.
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    BrainBits Male 30-39
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    October 4, 2009 at 4:52 pm
    So, they left their child unattended and he had an accident and died.

    Is the supermarket to blame for the parents being "yards away" or are they?

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    MafiaQueen13 Female 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 4:58 pm
    Geez! Watch your kid! Nice parents. First people to have a freak accident at a grocery store. How bout a little supervision. Poor Kid.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    October 4, 2009 at 5:15 pm
    "But I favor on the parent side, because when I weigh letting your 4 year old obviously active kid out of your sight for a minute or two to steel railings hanging around the store, I think the store is providing the bigger problem."

    Would you think differently if it was made out of plastic?

    I`ve no doubt that it was there for a reason. For example, a supermarket will often have some sort of enclosure for "parking" stacks of shopping trolleys. That`s often made out of steel bars, i.e. railings.

    The rail was not a hazard. A child misused it and died as a result of their own action and very bad luck.

    The only way to make a supermarket completely safe for young children is to prevent them entering it. The floor is hard. Shelves are hard. Freezers are hard. They all have to be hard.

    It`s brutal bad luck, but it isn`t the supermarket`s fault. A supermarket is not responsible for unattended young children misusing something and being very unlucky.

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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    October 4, 2009 at 5:20 pm
    Another possible scenario, Fox4Brawl:

    A young child tries to pull themself up on the checkout to look at the items moving on the belt. They lose their footing and fall over.

    Is the supermarket at fault for having a checkout?

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    britt566 Female 18-29
    2290 posts
    October 4, 2009 at 5:21 pm
    It isn`t just "sh*t happens". Their f*cking CHILD DIED. I`m sure if it were you, you wouldn`t be saying " oh well. poo HAPPENS"
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    gatorade777 Male 18-29
    1194 posts
    October 4, 2009 at 5:34 pm
    This pisses me off. It`s the parents fault. I`m sorry but the fact that they are going to put this store out of business and cause many of the workers to lose their jobs because they can`t control their child and are negligent parents isn`t fair.
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    Mah_Boi Male 18-29
    606 posts
    October 4, 2009 at 5:46 pm
    Sunday, October 4, 2009 5:21:35 PM
    It isn`t just "sh*t happens". Their f*cking CHILD DIED. I`m sure if it were you, you wouldn`t be saying " oh well. poo HAPPENS"

    No, I wouldn`t. I`d be angry. Furious. Devastated over the loss of my kid. I`d want to blame somebody, and the store would seem the most logical one to blame. I`d want to see the place shut down if I could, if not burned to the ground.

    But here`s the problem: It doesn`t matter how I feel. It doesn`t matter if I hate them more than anybody`s ever hated anything in the history of mankind. If they`re not at fault, they shouldn`t be punished for it.

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    Mooshoo Male 30-39
    215 posts
    October 4, 2009 at 6:01 pm
    "We say that parents should be able to go shopping with their children in a safe environment."

    Yeah, try not leaving them sitting on the railing! Just do what we do here, leave the kid at the meat section.

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    the_windy Female 18-29
    1589 posts
    October 4, 2009 at 6:14 pm
    "Now we`re lost. We`re completely empty. We just can`t believe it."...but the money will fix that in a jiffy.

    I see kids swinging on the rail at my store all the time, but the parents are always there, and tell them to get down, so I never have to do it.

    I hate it when the parents put their child on the conveyor belt though and think it`s cute.

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    kiona2098227 Female 13-17
    3 posts
    October 4, 2009 at 6:17 pm
    Yea its sad but parents need to stop letting thier kids play on things that are not toys.
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    Loxen Female 30-39
    1387 posts
    October 4, 2009 at 6:22 pm
    Typical of the people I know that have kids. Everything is somebody elses fault... certainly not theirs for not watching their spawn and letting it roam freely all over the damn place while they contemplate soup can labels. Ooooh no. *sigh* But typical of the world we live in, she`ll probably get something $$.
  92. Profile photo of flipNhigh
    flipNhigh Male 18-29
    194 posts
    October 4, 2009 at 6:23 pm
    The kid was swingging on a rail...thats bad parenting, not supermarket`s fault. And I also noticed that the father was 39 and the parents will werent married...WTF? if you ask me, the mom wasnt ready to have a child yet
  93. Profile photo of flipNhigh
    flipNhigh Male 18-29
    194 posts
    October 4, 2009 at 6:28 pm
    Also, might I add...WHITE PEOPLE, its time to start beating your kids again, this kind of stuff always happends to white familes, you never see this with mexican or black families, know why? cuz their kid is right there next to the parent behaving *most of the time* because they know that if they act up, their ass is getting beat when they get home
  94. Profile photo of LemonTarte
    LemonTarte Female 18-29
    1441 posts
    October 4, 2009 at 6:35 pm
    This is really awful. I hate hearing stories like this. I can`t imagine what that family must be going through. But it`s really not the Supermarket`s fault. It`s kind of pathetic that they`re placing the blame there.

    And I might have to agree with flipNhigh. Beating your kids isn`t the answer to everything but...well who am I kidding. Of course it is.

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    lizbian_2 Female 18-29
    185 posts
    October 4, 2009 at 6:37 pm
    Ok, I am wondering what the purpose of those railings actually is, but it is not the supermarkets fault that the kid wasn`t being watched by his parents.

    I worked in retail and if any employee even sees a kid unbuckled in a cart we are allowed to intervene and ask the stupid parents to buckle their kids in the cart. But they can`t be expected to watch all the kids for the parents... the parents just have to not be idiots and think about the safety of their children.

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    peachyojoN Female 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 6:38 pm
    Kids will be kids, regardless of the parenting. The parent probably thought that it was okay for the kid to muck around on the rail- what harm could it do?

    No matter how hard parents try to raise their children, everytime something happens they weren`t good enough. Parents do the best they can with what they have got.

    When it comes down to it- it`s the supermarkets fault.

  97. Profile photo of Dfaulted
    Dfaulted Male 13-17
    1920 posts
    October 4, 2009 at 6:38 pm
    When I did that I just broke my leg...
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    juggalotus Male 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 6:46 pm
    flipNhigh-

    Just because they were not married does not mean they were not ready to have a kid. Me and my girl plan on never getting married. Niether one of of us believe in marriage but when we are ready for a kid we still plan on having one.

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    connor53 Male 13-17
    207 posts
    October 4, 2009 at 6:54 pm
    Was this tragic? Yes.
    Should the parents sue? No. They should have been watching their kid more carefully, or has America sunk so low that we have to have signs on all railings that say "Please watch your child so they don`t hit their head on this."
  100. Profile photo of Fangarina
    Fangarina Female 18-29
    6 posts
    October 4, 2009 at 7:29 pm
    hmmm, I have a kid who swings on poles, has bumped his head loads of times and i would never dare sue a supermarket for it. Those barriers are there to stop people getting hurt (ironicly) by cars etc... if that was my son, i know it would be my own fault. why would you still be shopping while your 4 year old is outsinde playing chimp? yes perents get them blame, and in this case, its the finger pointing in the right direction!!
  101. Profile photo of parkm
    parkm Male 13-17
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    October 4, 2009 at 7:39 pm
    "or has America sunk so low that we have to have signs on all railings that say "Please watch your child so they don`t hit their head on this."

    It wasn`t in America...

  102. Profile photo of Nidonemo
    Nidonemo Male 18-29
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    October 4, 2009 at 7:40 pm
    "Also, might I add...WHITE PEOPLE, its time to start beating your kids again, this kind of stuff always happends to white familes, you never see this with mexican or black families, know why? cuz their kid is right there next to the parent behaving *most of the time* because they know that if they act up, their ass is getting beat when they get home"

    1) MY parents spanked me as a kid, I`m caucasian.

    2) The issue you are looking for cannot be found under "skin color". We suggest you try your search again, and include the keyword "parenting".

    3) I have seen both misbehaved children and behaved children of many different colors, flavors, and creeds. With and without nuts for parents.

  103. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
    7935 posts
    October 4, 2009 at 7:42 pm
    "Should the parents sue? No. They should have been watching their kid more carefully, or has America sunk so low that we have to have signs on all railings that say "Please watch your child so they don`t hit their head on this.""

    It clearly said it did not happen in America

  104. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
    7935 posts
    October 4, 2009 at 7:43 pm
    "Also, might I add...WHITE PEOPLE, its time to start beating your kids again, this kind of stuff always happends to white familes, you never see this with mexican or black families, know why? cuz their kid is right there next to the parent behaving *most of the time* because they know that if they act up, their ass is getting beat when they get home"

    Gotta admit...I didnt act up because I knew I was getting the belt if I did

  105. Profile photo of vitaliy
    vitaliy Male 18-29
    1668 posts
    October 4, 2009 at 7:45 pm
    If they get away with this I`m gonna fall on a pen and sue a pen company
  106. Profile photo of vitaliy
    vitaliy Male 18-29
    1668 posts
    October 4, 2009 at 7:46 pm
    "Gotta admit...I didnt act up because I knew I was getting the belt if I did"

    Prime, not even just white kids, I`m white and we had that in Russia, and I damn well behaved, or else.

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    Mooshoo Male 30-39
    215 posts
    October 4, 2009 at 7:49 pm
    Ahh, europeans, you so crazy!!
  108. Profile photo of Shellie84
    Shellie84 Female 18-29
    4197 posts
    October 4, 2009 at 8:02 pm
    I still yell at my kid for swinging on the railings. No, I wouldn`t sue, it was an accident and the parents could`ve been watching their kids more attentivly.
  109. Profile photo of flipNhigh
    flipNhigh Male 18-29
    194 posts
    October 4, 2009 at 8:05 pm
    Nidonemo
    thats why i said, should start doing it again...i was whipped as a kid and i knew not to misbehave
    and yes i know its not a skin color thing, there are children of all races acting up, but generaly you see the caucasian kids running a muck more often then not
  110. Profile photo of ScottSerious
    ScottSerious Male 18-29
    5316 posts
    October 4, 2009 at 8:11 pm
    that`s a sad story and all, but it`s not the store`s fault
  111. Profile photo of uwillbuy2day
    uwillbuy2day Male 18-29
    10 posts
    October 4, 2009 at 8:23 pm
    How about you watch your damn kids!
  112. Profile photo of Xalutard
    Xalutard Male 18-29
    13 posts
    October 4, 2009 at 9:11 pm
    Key phrase: " was yards away."

    L2parenting.

  113. Profile photo of davymid
    davymid Male 30-39
    12140 posts
    October 4, 2009 at 9:18 pm
    Come on parents, stop trying to lay blame where there is none, you`re just angry at yourselves, at fate, at God, at whatever.

    It was an accident, it`s sad but it happens.

    p.s. My daughter is three years old. She wouldn`t be swinging on any isolated rail in a store, because I`d say to her that it`s not a good idea. Not because I`m a controlling dick, but because I try to look out for her. I`ve biffed my head a few times as a kid, and I know the physics that leads to a head-collision. It`s called being a Dad.

    Also, in before the haters: Save the "Cotton Wool" anecdotes. Any mention of which I shall delete with impunity.

  114. Profile photo of senia
    senia Female 18-29
    96 posts
    October 4, 2009 at 9:40 pm
    stupid drating parents.
  115. Profile photo of FelanSlvr
    FelanSlvr Female 18-29
    232 posts
    October 4, 2009 at 9:48 pm
    When it comes to kids I have eagle eyes, even with my dogs I always know where they are and what they are doing... I can`t IMAGINE taking my eyes off my child in a supermarket of all places. Head injury aside, what about kidnappers or sexual deviants. I know that`s not just in America.
  116. Profile photo of Lionhart2
    Lionhart2 Male 40-49
    8306 posts
    October 4, 2009 at 10:36 pm
    > davymid
    > Come on parents, stop trying to lay blame where there is none, you`re just angry at yourselves, at fate, at God, at whatever.

    Um I`m pretty sure if you scroll down to my first comment on this post, Davy, I was pretty clear that it was YOUR fault.

  117. Profile photo of Nidonemo
    Nidonemo Male 18-29
    9308 posts
    October 4, 2009 at 10:46 pm
    Davy what do you mean by "Cotton wool" anecdotes again? I`m not clear on that.
  118. Profile photo of Lionhart2
    Lionhart2 Male 40-49
    8306 posts
    October 4, 2009 at 10:57 pm
    Actually I didn`t make that ENTIRELY clear, I said that it was God, the Universe or DavyMid that was to blame.

    One of those doesn`t exist, another is a brainless random uncaring mindless non-sentient non-entity, so I suppose...

    Most obvious punchline in history coming up here...

    ...it could still be The Universe.

    :-P

  119. Profile photo of Lou-Saydus
    Lou-Saydus Male 13-17
    216 posts
    October 4, 2009 at 11:05 pm
    "we`re too stupid to watch our own kids, so we`re going to sue you!" Those railing are in no way dangerous, when you let your kid swing from them like an idiot, they become dangerous. Imo it`s 100% the parent`s fault he`s dead.
  120. Profile photo of tuesdayfool
    tuesdayfool Female 13-17
    170 posts
    October 4, 2009 at 11:18 pm
    I don`t mean to sound heartless, but it serves them right for not keeping a proper eye on their beloved child.
  121. Profile photo of bonsushi
    bonsushi Male 18-29
    204 posts
    October 4, 2009 at 11:33 pm
    His mother, just yards away, allowed their four-year-old son to swing from the improperly placed railing.
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    hansonrocks Female 18-29
    99 posts
    October 5, 2009 at 12:40 am
    sounds like the parents fault not the supermarket...
  123. Profile photo of sponged
    sponged Male 18-29
    553 posts
    October 5, 2009 at 2:25 am
    why let the kid swing on the bars in the first place
  124. Profile photo of k10josumm
    k10josumm Male 18-29
    432 posts
    October 5, 2009 at 2:47 am
    i would say that the supermarket should sue the parents for negligence! this is dumb. i feel really bad about the boy. but suing fixes NOTHING especially when its YOUR OWN DAMN FAULT
  125. Profile photo of xxPinkxx
    xxPinkxx Female 18-29
    3829 posts
    October 5, 2009 at 3:12 am
    i could understand if the floor was wet or something, but in my opinion it wasnt anyones fault, not even the parents. it was a freak accident. plain and simple. i feel sorry for the family, though.
  126. Profile photo of SoupaMario
    SoupaMario Male 18-29
    221 posts
    October 5, 2009 at 3:35 am
    I`m no legal expert, but it seems like this could be one of those situations where the store could counter-suit for "defamation of character" towards the store.

    It is Europe though, so their laws will obviously be different from the States though...

  127. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    October 5, 2009 at 3:38 am
    "His mother, just yards away, allowed their four-year-old son to swing from the improperly placed railing."

    What leads you to conclude that the railing was improperly placed?

  128. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    October 5, 2009 at 3:49 am
    "Also, might I add...WHITE PEOPLE, its time to start beating your kids again"

    Beating people who can`t effectively defend themselves is easy, but why do it yourself when you can pay bullies a small amount to do it for you? That saves you any effort, rewards bullies for their early understanding of the ideas you want to promote and gives them some work experience. Of course, you might like doing it yourself.

    Why only children? People who have been made frail by old age are about as easy to beat as young children, so why not beat them too? Especially those whose minds have been affected as well, as they can be very childlike.

  129. Profile photo of MrBob
    MrBob Male 13-17
    45 posts
    October 5, 2009 at 4:00 am
    IT WAS AN ACCIDENT!!!! YOU DON`T SUE FOR AN ACCIDENT UNLESS UR AS STUPID AS THE McDonald`s COFFEE LADY!
  130. Profile photo of Spambot3000
    Spambot3000 Male 18-29
    525 posts
    October 5, 2009 at 4:55 am
    At the risk of sounding like an insensitive prick it`s a shopping centre not a playground. I wish parents would stop expecting other people to raise they`re kids for them. The other day some random woman actually pointed at me and said to her kid "if you don`t behave the man will shout at you". No I wont love, I`m not his father. Raise your own drating children people.
  131. Profile photo of ConverseUK
    ConverseUK Male 18-29
    1270 posts
    October 5, 2009 at 5:57 am
    I just want to stare these people in the eye and ask them to answer this question:

    How will the money repay you for your son`s accident/your lack of proper parenting.

    That greedy, `not my fault` attitude makes me sick.

  132. Profile photo of ConverseUK
    ConverseUK Male 18-29
    1270 posts
    October 5, 2009 at 6:00 am
    "His mother, just yards away, allowed their four-year-old son to swing from the improperly placed railing."

    I was walking in ASDA`s (a supermarket) carpark one night, when a drunk girl, behind the wheel of her boyfriends car, came screaming towards me and my mates. She didn`t stop, and ploughed right into one of those railings. It saved our lives, I have no doubt of that.

  133. Profile photo of CHICOMIMI
    CHICOMIMI Female 18-29
    854 posts
    October 5, 2009 at 6:06 am
    Sad that parents will put a price on their childs life...
  134. Profile photo of ukfra
    ukfra Male 18-29
    47 posts
    October 5, 2009 at 6:33 am
    I have no sympaty for the BRAIN DEAD, MORONIC, PATHETIC, BLAME EVERY BUGGER ELSE, IDLE, FETHWIT PARENTS.

    When I was 4 My mum insisted that I kept hold of the trolly AT ALL TIMES and not go running off.

    I HOPE THEY THROW IT OUT, IDIOTS

  135. Profile photo of d_katman
    d_katman Male 13-17
    1836 posts
    October 5, 2009 at 6:59 am
    perhaps they`re immigrants from florida
  136. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    October 5, 2009 at 7:23 am
    Yards away ? So in other words she let the little bugger walk away out of her sight and he fell.

    I think the store should counter-sue the parents for being negligent with their kid and leaving a blood stain on their floor. (sarcasm)

  137. Profile photo of patchouly
    patchouly Male 40-49
    4746 posts
    October 5, 2009 at 7:24 am
    Improper parenting is too blame in this one IMO.

    Sad.

  138. Profile photo of Aretsuku-kun
    Aretsuku-kun Male 13-17
    309 posts
    October 5, 2009 at 7:55 am
    I don`t understand how they think legal action is even proper at all, if anything they should be sent to jail for neglecting their child.
  139. Profile photo of Subushie
    Subushie Male 18-29
    1646 posts
    October 5, 2009 at 8:08 am
    agreed, the parents are to blame. what is the child doing "yards away" and none the less, was "swinging on a small steel rail" although i sympathize for them, they have no right in suing the store. it is, unfortunately human nature to push the blame to someone else, when it is so obvious it is there fault.
  140. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    October 5, 2009 at 9:05 am
    "IT WAS AN ACCIDENT!!!! YOU DON`T SUE FOR AN ACCIDENT UNLESS UR AS STUPID AS THE McDonald`s COFFEE LADY!"

    Are you trying to make yourself look bad? If so, your semiliterate shouting was a good idea.

    The woman in question suffered third degree burns over 6% of her body, an agonising thing that required a lot of medical attention and caused permament injury. McDonalds was serving something unfit for the intended purpose (it was far too hot to drink) and already knew that it was dangerous (there had been many other injuries before and McDonalds was well aware of the problem).

    Also, the woman was not driving and the car she was a passenger in was not moving.

    The McDonalds coffee case is very different to how it is commonly made out to be. In reality, she had good grounds for suing McDonalds and the ruling in her favour was reasonable.

  141. Profile photo of dragosal
    dragosal Male 18-29
    1630 posts
    October 5, 2009 at 10:13 am
    "Beating people who can`t effectively defend themselves is easy, but why do it yourself when you can pay bullies a small amount to do it for you? That saves you any effort, rewards bullies for their early understanding of the ideas you want to promote and gives them some work experience. Of course, you might like doing it yourself.

    Why only children? People who have been made frail by old age are about as easy to beat as young children, so why not beat them too? Especially those whose minds have been affected as well, as they can be very childlike.

    angilion, really? there is a huge differance between beating your children and physical discipline tho the WORDS are interchangeable. and some children need a swat on the behind on occasion to teach them right from wrong. not everyone is wired the same way mentally so mommy waving her finger and saying no isn`t a 100% fix. especially if the parents have been lax in teaching their kids right from wrong.

  142. Profile photo of realblender
    realblender Male 18-29
    536 posts
    October 5, 2009 at 11:38 am
    1. Mr Blackmore, 39, said: "Now we`re lost. We`re completely empty. We just can`t believe it."

    2. "The distraught parents, who have four daughters..."

    I guess girls just don`t quite cut it.

  143. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    October 5, 2009 at 11:55 am
    "angilion, really?"

    Yes, really. I`m one of those weirdoes who thinks that beating people is wrong, especially those who can`t effectively defend themselves.

    Maybe I haven`t played enough Grand Theft Auto.

    Given that you think that beating children is a good thing, please explain *in a way that is consistent with your position* why it would be wrong to pay a bully to beat the child instead and also why it would be wrong to beat a frail elderly person with dementia.

    And yes, I am serious about that. I am using it to demonstrate the lack of internal consistency in your point of view. Unless, of course, you also consider those to be good things or you get some pleasure from beating children.

  144. Profile photo of DaisyDope
    DaisyDope Female 13-17
    299 posts
    October 5, 2009 at 12:23 pm
    aaaaahh liverpool. liverpool, liverpool.
  145. Profile photo of hudaman
    hudaman Male 18-29
    32 posts
    October 5, 2009 at 2:52 pm
    I don`t get it. Isn`t this supposed to be a funny site
  146. Profile photo of Boadicea
    Boadicea Female 18-29
    1677 posts
    October 5, 2009 at 3:28 pm
    You hit people when you`re too stupid to discipline verbally. Honestly. Kids may seem stupid and out of control, but if you treat them like people, rather than annoying yapping dogs, you can deal with them without resorting to violence. Violence breeds violence.

    If they`re raised properly from the start, they`ll understand when they need to shut the drat up and sit down.

  147. Profile photo of alfietoon
    alfietoon Male 18-29
    1164 posts
    October 5, 2009 at 3:55 pm
    So the railings.. which if the picture is anything to go by are there for the purpose of stopping the shopping trollys veering off into the road/ carpark and also serving the purpose of keeping things tidy and neat. the parents should not have aloud there 4 year old son to be swinging on railings, by all means it was a dreadful thing to happen, and its terrible that a 4 year old payed with his life.... but the parents are responsible, NOT Somerfield, but im guessing now in every single supermarket there is now going to be a no swinging on the railings sign... aswell as the no alcohol to any person(s) under 18, and the imfamous do not insert pineapple up rectum
  148. Profile photo of Blakcat71388
    Blakcat71388 Female 18-29
    876 posts
    October 5, 2009 at 4:54 pm
    So basically, the parents need someone to blame since clearly they will not blame themselves. They shoulda` been watching the kid and saying "don`t drating swing on that - you`re going to crack your head."

    What the drat is wrong with people?

  149. Profile photo of AnImbroglio
    AnImbroglio Male 30-39
    838 posts
    October 5, 2009 at 4:57 pm
    I suppose they shouldn`t have had counters, buggies, tables, chairs, ladders, shelves, or anything else a kid could have possibly fallen from in that store. Let`s put everything in nice neat rows on the ground. Safety first, people.
  150. Profile photo of AnImbroglio
    AnImbroglio Male 30-39
    838 posts
    October 5, 2009 at 5:03 pm
    "The McDonalds coffee case is very different to how it is commonly made out to be. In reality, she had good grounds for suing McDonalds and the ruling in her favour was reasonable."

    Coffee = hot. Sometimes, stupid people have to wait for coffee to cool before drinking. There are things in this world that are self-explanatory. If you don`t understand them, then darwinism takes hold and you get cleansed from the gene pool. If you slap a lion, you will get mauled. Do I really need to explain that to people, even if I run a freaking zoo? I am not responsible for your stupidity. Making me out to be is unreasonable and irresponsible. If you are too idiotic to put together that something STEAMING might be a smidgen warm, then I truly hope you play with fire one too many times. There is no excuse for this type of idiocy.

    Sorry, I`ll get off the soap box now.

  151. Profile photo of osirisascend
    osirisascend Male 40-49
    3045 posts
    October 5, 2009 at 5:43 pm
    @ AnImbroglio: McDonald`s was serving coffee at a temperature in excess of 180 degrees Fahrenheit. In fact, for some reason that escapes explanation, before they were sued, they even had advertising that bragged about how hot they served their coffee.

    McDonald`s claimed that the reason for serving such hot coffee in its drive-through windows was that, because those who purchased the coffee typically wanted to drive a distance with the coffee, the high initial temperature would keep the coffee hot during the trip.

    However, the company`s own research showed that some customers intend to consume the coffee immediately while driving.

    Other documents obtained from McDonald`s showed that from 1982 to 1992 the company had received more than 700 reports of people burned by McDonald`s coffee to varying degrees of severity, and had settled claims arising from scalding injuries for more than $500,000.

  152. Profile photo of LandoGriffin
    LandoGriffin Male 30-39
    3844 posts
    October 5, 2009 at 5:53 pm
    Yeah, what Osiris said. The McDonald`s Coffee lawsuit was NOT a frivilous bullcrap lawsuit, rather, a food service industry should not serve a beverage that causes second degree burns when spilled. They did, and so they were liable for the damages.
  153. Profile photo of kirstoner
    kirstoner Female 18-29
    535 posts
    October 5, 2009 at 11:38 pm
    Moral to thsi story?
    Supervise & discipline your own children, people. Or they will die.
  154. Profile photo of OrangeCrow
    OrangeCrow Female 18-29
    1199 posts
    October 6, 2009 at 12:26 am
    I`m sorry but no, I don`t see the Grocery store being liable for this. =/

    It`s a really sad story, but it`s wrong to hold the store accountable for what has happened. The parents should have been watching their child more closely, advising him not to swing on the railing.

    I still feel sad for their child passing away though. It`s tragic.

  155. Profile photo of Sigon
    Sigon Male 18-29
    129 posts
    October 6, 2009 at 6:27 am
    Saying McDonalds was actually responsible for the famous "Coffee Caper" incident, is to say that they are also responsible for poeple that get fat because they eat too much of their food....Fact is, people in these situations refuse to take responsibility for their OWN ACTIONS...This story is a perfect yet tragic example of the same thing...parents are notorious for this...something happens to their kid when they are not paying attention and then they go sue crazy...its stupid, wrong, and I get tired of seeing it....My heart does go out to the family for their loss...
  156. Profile photo of welfarepimp
    welfarepimp Male 30-39
    189 posts
    October 6, 2009 at 1:12 pm
    They shouldn`t get a pence, which means they`ll get billions. They should have employees that do nothing but follow customers around to keep them from swinging on things.

    On the plus side, many of the idiots that think the family deserves money probably shop there and will end up paying higher prices as a result.

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    lerie Female 18-29
    1265 posts
    October 6, 2009 at 5:31 pm
    It is very sad, but if you let your kid swing in a railing, guess who is responsible.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    October 6, 2009 at 5:44 pm
    "Saying McDonalds was actually responsible for the famous "Coffee Caper" incident, is to say that they are also responsible for poeple that get fat because they eat too much of their food....Fact is, people in these situations refuse to take responsibility for their OWN ACTIONS..."

    The person`s OWN ACTION in this case was to put milk into a cup of coffee. So she`s responsible for having slightly milky coffee rather than black coffee.

    She isn`t responsible for MCDONALD`S ACTION of deliberately and knowingly providing a very dangerous product that was completely unfit for the purpose for which it was sold.

    So it isn`t at all like people getting fat because they eat too much fatty fast food.

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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    October 6, 2009 at 5:53 pm
    "If you are too idiotic to put together that something STEAMING might be a smidgen warm, then I truly hope you play with fire one too many times."

    If the coffee had been sold at a reasonable temperature for coffee, you would have a point. It wasn`t, you don`t. The product was dangerous beyond reasonable expectations and was completely unfit for the purpose for which it was sold. McDonalds was clearly aware of this beforehand.

    Had the coffee been at a hot drinkable temperature (i.e. fit for purpose), it would have been a different matter.

    You should reasonably expect a hot drink to be hot enough to be very painful if spilled on you, maybe even cause superficial burns.

    This not-really-a-drink caused third degree (i.e. the highest category) burns over 6% of the person`s body. That is not a degree of hazard that a customer should reasonably expect.

    Comparing it to slapping a lion is therefore silly.

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    atconner Male 18-29
    39 posts
    October 6, 2009 at 8:38 pm
    Angilion, there`s a fourth degree burn, as well. It typically happens with electrocution and the skin turns into a white powder, and just blows away in the breeze.

    ... all we are is duuuuuuuuuust in the wiiiiiiiiiind

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    alice_x Female 18-29
    5140 posts
    October 7, 2009 at 3:19 am
    This made me really sad :(

    I can`t imagine what the parents are going through...but whats the point in sueing, the reason there are so many rules in this country now are because of that exact reason, people sue for anything, it was the mother responsability, she should have been watching her son, it isnt the supermarkets fault -sigh-

    meh. who even cares anymore, our country has gone to sh*t already.. benefits, claims, money being thrown at people as apologies for there own mistakes, because we are too soft to say no.

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    DrHorrible Male 18-29
    108 posts
    October 7, 2009 at 9:38 am
    My kids are allowed to climb on things at playgrounds, not stores. If the railing was, say, to keep people from falling, the kid was leaning against it and fell - store`s fault. But sorry, hanging and climbing on it - my fault. See how that works?

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