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Throughout history, as we know it, there have been individuals who attempt to create imperative or sensationalism in regard to a situation to make their own involvement seem to have merit. They feed off of the fear they create. Environmentalism, welcome to the new religion and your indoctrination.
Read this as well:
420,000 years ago was certainly before homo sapiens. So was 325,000 years ago. And 240,000. It`s rather unlikely there were industrial revolutions then. Or 125,000 years ago. A small number of hunter-gatherer humans wouldn`t have had an industrial revolution.
Climate change is real, but much more complicated than it`s often made out to be.
We`re fed one single factor as being the sole cause. No, worse than that. We`re fed one tiny part of one factor (CO2 from technology) as the sole cause. That is politically motivated bullpoo for people to gain power and raise taxes.
We can`t usually say that such things are overdue by hundreds (or thousands) of years because they don`t usually occur to a schedule. The only possible exception I can think of is being hit by an asteroid - that`s pretty predictable if you have enough data. But it`s also avoidable if detected far enough in advance - we can alter the path of an asteroid.
It is true that there`s a `supervolcano` there. The eruption of these is actually an explosion caused by a buildup of pressure in a strong container (the hard rock surface of the area). Imagine a welded steel container filled with water which is then heated to boiling point. It will burst. Now scale it up a few billion times. We`re talking 100 mile crater scale here.
Evidence indicates that it has happened 3 times in the last 2.1 million years, with 600,000-800,000 years between them. There have been many smaller eruptions too.
There`s no evidence of massive eruptions before 2.1 million years ago.
Maybe those 3 are the end of the explosions. Maybe it`ll go up next year. Maybe it`ll go up a million years from now.
"the world is gonna end in 2012 & man made global warming is real too"
Notice how the rise starts at the same time the industrial revolution starts? Explain that then.
oh, to keep the world from ending in 2012, i`m sure someone will be demanding your money very soon, probably the government. i would give them all your money, since you won`t be needing it, if by chance the world doesn`t end, climate change is gonna getcha anyway.
good luck ID10T5
Just in case you`re being serious:
The Mayans were not using the symbols we use for numbers, nor were they using a decimal year-numbering system dating from a mistaken belief about the year in which Jesus was born, so the 1`s and 2`s in our version of the date are irrelevant.
Expressed in the characters we use, the date would be 18.104.22.168.19, to be followed by 22.214.171.124.0
Since you don`t care that you`re contradicting yourself and you don`t attach any value to rational thought, there`s no point in continuing. You are merely expressing your baseless faith, as many others have done. You could just be honest and stop pretending there`s any evidence underpinning it - it is purely your faith.
well as the beliefs of the Hopi Indians, with the changing of the zodiac ages all stating the same thesis, all converging with in the same time frame each documented at separate times not interrelated, all having to do with mankind making a change for a better future.
I will never know for sure, unless when I die there is reincarnation and I remember this world, but I believe it will happen.
I am totally mental
I am not stating that the world is or will be coming to an end in doom and gloom destruction like these "end of day" theists.I am stating that world will experience a change for the better. It is the end of the world as we know it, so to speak. We have gone through materialism and world warfare - yes this taking place for thousand of years but more globally in the last century. This will end, probably not in our life time as the transition is over a course of a cycle of 5000 years to come. But the next generations of people will not suffer like the past generations.
I am a believer in the cosmic world, we are born to die - so do not try to debunk me with your logic of not believing the Mayan religion or creation story. I believe that there is truth in the fact that ancient civilizations are able to in vision what the future will be. The Mayan prophecies and the ability to have such an accurate time keeper are worth considering, as well as the beliefs
I`m not seeing how your post is a reply to my point that the existence of greed, natural disaster and wars is not a new thing and is not evidence of the immiment end of anything.
Your post seems to be a typical expression of faith - if anything happens, you can attach it to the prophecy date and if nothing happens you`ve got that covered as well with your comment about a marker in the cycle of time.
You claim to believe in this very recent corruption of the Mayan calendar.
Do you believe in the Mayan creation story, the Mayan starting point for the calendar and the Mayan religious belief of the importance of a cycle of 13 baktun?
If the answer to any of those questions is `no`, then you are talking self-contradictory rubbish.
If the answer to all of them is `yes`, then you are following a very modern religion stemming from a corruption of Mayan religion, but your rubbish has some internal consistency. Join the rest of the "end of days!" theists.
The cycle is based on 5000 years plus - the Eygptian empire began to take shape in 3000 BC, it no longer exsists. There is advancement and change with in the cycle it self. We are not the same civilization or society we were a millenia ago - but we have evolved having reached the end. There is change on the horizon and it will not be apparent to anyone on 12-21-12 as this is only a marker in a cycle of time. It happens to fall on a winter solistice - how this winter solstice is different then the year before. Its like you have a birthday every year - on your 18th birthday your suppose to become a man (in certain cultures or societies) its a marker in your life cycle. Some boys are already men at 16 yo others not till they are older then 18 yo - but eventually you grow from boy to man.
Or... What the hell am I thinking? People don`t get motivated to do that in times of crisis--people become more self-centered...
I`ll give you a hint - the Mayan long count calendar predates Judaism and therefore couldn`t possibly be based on it.
That`s been true throughout recorded history and probably before then. Why should the next date people have made up be any different to the millenia before now?
"The date of 12-21-2012 - is not the date you will see the change but a date in a solar calendar, being the winter solstice, as a point in time where this transition will take place."
There`s a winter solstice every year, so that`s hardly unique to 2012.
Unless you count the years starting from 5123 years ago, the cycle of the calendar is meaningless.
Does anyone who believes this "Mayan 2012" bull count the years do that? Do you consider this to be year 5123? I bet you don`t.
Even if you did, you might be wrong anyway. People don`t agree on when year 1 was for the Mayan calendar, so we can`t even be sure when their long count cycle will finish, as we can`t be sure when it started.
This is such ludicrous bullpoo. The idea that aliens live in Nevada and run the Earth through secret conspiracies is more plausible.
i) The Mayan calendar DOES NOT END IN 2012.
ii) The cycles are a result of the standard notation they used for writing dates. Using a standard 4-digit decimal notation for years would give you a 10,000 year cycle (from the beginning of year 1 to the end of year 9999). The Mayan standard notation was more complicated, but the same thing applies - there is a limit to how many numbers can be addressed in a standard number of digits. That`s all.
Are you referring to the magnetic poles or the geographical poles? Or the geomagnetic poles? Are you sure that you`re referring to the same poles as the article?
The only difference with the 2012 thing is that some people have attempted to retrofit some superficial pretense of science onto the prediction, whereas in the past it was mostly religion used that way.
All that`s actually true is that the Mayans had several calendars and a general fascination with astronomy.
The date only makes any sense if you believe in the Mayan religious creation story, *because that`s when the long count calendar starts*. If you don`t believe in that, the date has no significance at all. People often overlook calendar start points because we all only use one.
It`s a goddamned calendar made in the days where people sacrificed each other to appease gods. Chill the hell out.
Clean up after yourselves when you mess up the envioronment and just let North Korea kill themselves! There. No problems.
meh, I think we`ll kill ourselves in the next hundred or so anyway. just hold off until I see my grandkids, kay guys? :- )
Its not like we would be able to save ourselfs from the end of the world because its like slayer50515 said IF THE WORLD WAS ENDING THERE WOULD BE KNOWHERE TO RUN! Everyone needs to lay off the bong and stop being paranoid!
It`s sad however, that I expect more people will die from this idiocracy that fuels this consternation than the actual "event" itself.
Oh, and I have to add this in, just because few ever really think about this; If the world is going to end, why the hell would you shelter yourself? The WORLD is ending you twit, not the surface or just one specific area. You`re screwed 6 ways `til sunday no matter where you are.
And if anyone is Christian here on I-A-B (which seems unlikely, but, you know) not even the angels know.
I really hope the Rapture is going to happen at some point, the idea of living in a world without Xian Fundies fills my heart with joy! And maybe we could convince him to take the Islamo-Fascists too! And for the hat trick take the Corporate Capitalists too, their form of Fundamentalism has wrecked the world.
Yours in looking forward to being Left Behind,Star*Dagger
P.S. If you want a real laugh, watch the movie "Left Behind", what a joke these people are!
What 2012 crap? I`ve heard nothing. 2000 was everywhere, but the only thing I`ve heard about in 2012 is the Olympics and that dodgy logo.
"ONLY I could figure this out! Damn Sheeple!"
But other than that...wow, if you honestly believe this crap, you are...special :)
It still think 2000 was funny with people swearing blind that nukes where gonna launch and planes where gonna falll out of the sky etc etc at the turn of midnight!
Fun times with morons!
I feel safe from... nothing now