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Date: 09/05/09 09:01 AM

35 Responses to Get Ready For The Robot Overlords

  1. Profile photo of ballaerina
    ballaerina Female 18-29
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    August 26, 2009 at 6:45 pm
    Link: Get Ready For The Robot Overlords - Scientists worry machines may outsmart man
  2. Profile photo of lacmoo
    lacmoo Male 13-17
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    August 29, 2009 at 5:22 pm
    I for one welcome our new robot overlords
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    airsofter1 Male 18-29
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    August 29, 2009 at 6:43 pm
    I have a solution. buy guns, lots of guns. oh wait that`s politically incorrect.
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    Thepwnsher Male 13-17
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    August 30, 2009 at 11:10 pm
    l0lz...
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    lukas1051 Male 18-29
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    September 5, 2009 at 9:08 am
    Big talk, they were saying that 50 years ago.
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    taitano Male 30-39
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    September 5, 2009 at 9:22 am
    I`m more worried about semi-intelligent robots. The first wave `prototypes` as it were. AI 2.0

    Truly intelligent bots would either recognize and appreciate our various cultural/social/whatever contributions or our potential as slaves. Such would potentially come up with a version of the "three laws" on their own. HAL falls in the low end of this scale(he was driven nuts by being told to lie).

    The first wave could be smart enough to not need us, but not enough to know what we`re good for or to care enough about us to not kill us all. Terminator falls in this category.

    If we could get to AI 4.0 or so, we`ll wither be enslaved or get a nice technotopian co-existence. Either way I wouldn`t mind and I echo lacmoo`s sentiments.

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    taitano Male 30-39
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    September 5, 2009 at 9:30 am
    "Big talk, they were saying that 50 years ago."

    "While the computer scientists agreed that we are a long way from Hal, the computer that took over the spaceship in `2001: A Space Odyssey,`"

    Now that they have a better idea what intelligence is and how much data the human brain can process, they have a better idea of `when` this might happen - between 25 an 100 years to AI 2.0. 50 to never for 3.0(true human analogue). 4.0(possibly superior to humans) may not be possible without an actual biological brain.

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    lukas1051 Male 18-29
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    September 5, 2009 at 9:31 am
    This will obviously never happen for one reason, robots don`t have feelings or emotions. If a robot created was smart enough to think for itself, it would have no reason to kill us anyway as it wouldn`t want to, because it can`t want anything. It`s a machine, it performs a function, that`s it.
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    ballaerina Female 18-29
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    September 5, 2009 at 9:48 am
    This will obviously never happen for one reason, robots don`t have feelings or emotions. If a robot created was smart enough to think for itself, it would have no reason to kill us anyway as it wouldn`t want to, because it can`t want anything. It`s a machine, it performs a function, that`s it.

    ---

    What if we can figure out how to program emotion?

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    taitano Male 30-39
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    September 5, 2009 at 9:54 am
    Hate to break it to ya, lukas, but we have given them emotions. . . And we started with the worst ones too. 8-|

    MIT granted a bot anger, desire, frustration and jealousy. When asked, they said "we wanted the worst ones early to get the kinks out before they got really smart. And we`ll program in more altruistic emotions about the time we do that too. Besides, these were the easy ones to program. Love, generosity, compassion, they all take a lot of intelligence. . . Woah. That`s kinda deep."

    Last spring, Japanese succeeded in programming affection, playfulness and a rudimentary happiness. Germany`s working on "imprinting".

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    Evil_Eye Male 18-29
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    September 5, 2009 at 10:37 am
    Well its not like robots can do a worse job then humans ruling each other.
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    ferdyfred Male 40-49
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    September 5, 2009 at 10:47 am
    Oh lord here come the Borg....
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    Rick_S Male 40-49
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    September 5, 2009 at 10:58 am
    Asimov had it right all those years ago:

    The Four Rules of Robotics:

    0) A robot can not allow, through action or inaction, humanity to come to harm.
    1) A robot can not allow, through action or inaction, a human being to come to harm, unless doing so would violate the zeroth law.
    2) A robot must not allow itself, through action or in action to come to harm, unless doing so would violate the zeroth or first laws.
    3) A robot must obey all commands given to it by a human being, unless doing so violates any other law.

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    Rick_S Male 40-49
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    September 5, 2009 at 10:58 am
    I`ll take my geek badge now.
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    Quackor Male 18-29
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    September 5, 2009 at 11:15 am
    this only proves any group of idiots can call themselves scientists.
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    Groogle Male 30-39
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    September 5, 2009 at 11:36 am
    It`s a shame that those robots are made of cheap plastic... and that a simple magnet can destroy them.

    Are you seriously afraid of robots?

    Hahahhahahahhahahahhahahahhhahhahahahahahhaha!

    *Rolling on floor laughing my arse off*

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    Groogle Male 30-39
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    September 5, 2009 at 11:37 am
    Seriously, I have tears in my eyes.
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    GRadde Male 18-29
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    September 5, 2009 at 12:27 pm
    >Rick
    I was thinking about those rules too, `cept I had forgotten the guy`s name. Thanks!
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    420foy Male 18-29
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    September 5, 2009 at 12:51 pm
    can a robot dodge buckshot?
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    lukas1051 Male 18-29
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    September 5, 2009 at 2:17 pm
    I`ve read up on those emotions, they aren`t really emotions. They have been programmed to react in certain ways to certain events, so not neccesarily emotions. As I`ve said, robots have no ability to think freely, and no actual desrie to do things, and they will never be able to as they are just machines. It`s a hard thing to understand, but once you have an understanding of what a robot actually is, you would know that robots would NEVER be smarter than humans.
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    msimmons Male 18-29
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    September 5, 2009 at 2:29 pm
    @lukas, that`s VERY arrogant. Because you can`t conceive of a way for something to happen means it will never, huh?
    Also, neural networks certainly have the _potential_ to equal and surpass human intelligence. All they need is a way to take input in from surroundings instead of human-fed data.
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    Monday Male 13-17
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    September 5, 2009 at 6:48 pm
    420foy:
    Can YOU dodge lasers?
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    Avalessa Female 13-17
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    September 5, 2009 at 7:01 pm
    Monday:
    If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge lasers.
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    taitano Male 30-39
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    September 5, 2009 at 7:38 pm
    @lukas, I got my first soldering iron burn when your momma was still in grade-school; before there was Windows; before the internet was the Internet. I have also studied the Human brain for longer than you`ve been alive. I think I know what I`m talking about.

    The human brain consists of a neural network that transmits a combination of trinary electrical and binary chemical signals to process information. This information is perceived by our concious as emotion, thought, knowledge, understanding and perception.

    Emotions, being made up of chemical signals, are binary and therefore easier to emulate than intelligence - which is already progressing rather quickly. We will be on top only as long as they don`t develop conciousness and perception - the two things that keep the brain a complete enigma.

    Programmed or not, they do have emotions. Conciousness will come as soon as we figure out what that is. No news on when that will be. We`re figuring out perception as we speak.

    :-p

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    taitano Male 30-39
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    September 5, 2009 at 7:47 pm
    One final thing before I take my meds: anyone afraid of bots is either ignorant of how they work or just paranoid. An automated, EMP-protected tank can be taken out with a flame-thrower, a sledge hammer and a wrench.

    Fear not the robot overlords, for they are not but our own imaginations; rendered in plastic and iron.

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    taitano Male 30-39
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    September 5, 2009 at 7:50 pm
    . . . Make that three flame-throwers and add a pair of pliers and a paper-clip.
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    redips11 Male 13-17
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    September 5, 2009 at 10:00 pm
    o f*ck
    wat goddam morons
    weve been saying this for years! irobot was not just a movie! it was a message from the smart people... these are the people designing bomb controlers goddammit
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    taitano Male 30-39
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    September 5, 2009 at 11:01 pm
    Shhhhh! Quiet you!


    It`s supposed to be a secret.

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    SilverThread Male 30-39
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    September 5, 2009 at 11:13 pm
    Well big surprise, we`re going to screw ourselves over and here`s the reason.

    Other technologists, notably Raymond Kurzweil, have extolled the coming of ultrasmart machines, saying they will offer huge advances in life extension and wealth creation.

    Right, we have access to machines that are smarter than we are and *this* is how we apply that knowledge? To become rich? We`ve already created machines that are smarter than ourselves, they work together without bickering or squabbling, without interest in personal gain but rather with only the intention of achieving a common goal. We are rendering ourselves obsolete at the speed of industry.

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    Owanie Male 18-29
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    September 6, 2009 at 2:24 am
    I thought they were still developing those SOUL hardwares, the ones that gave the machine a conscience to think more logically and thoroughly through deductive reasoning and a wide array of perspectives. If anyone makes such devices, they`d be idiotic either not to give the robots an off-switch or to make this in the first place. On the other hand, those machines might actually be better for ourselves than we are.
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    MetalicDemon Male 18-29
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    September 6, 2009 at 7:21 am
    we are drated
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    September 6, 2009 at 8:11 am
    So... it is agreed then.

    Either this is a spoof article, which its probably not.

    or...

    The new york times is a piece of shjt

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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    September 6, 2009 at 8:12 am
    Lol. Machines are smarter that some of YOU guys...
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    nissanxterra Male 18-29
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    September 6, 2009 at 11:08 am
    LazyMe484? stfu, you`re from canada.
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    nomorecheese Male 13-17
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    September 6, 2009 at 5:25 pm
    i see the world endig like the start of the movie "9"

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