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Many people have suffered torture and death over that question. Look into European history, especially from the 16th century (i.e. after Protestantism). Conflict between different versions of Christianity was a factor, sometimes the sole cause, in most of the war, oppression and tyranny that went on.
It was also the reason for the Inquisitions.
The fighting over what was real Christianity started right away, as far as we can tell. There were at least 3 Christianities in the early years, with the Pauline being the eventual winner. Almost everything thought of as Christianity today either goes back to Paul (not Jesus) or is a later add-on from other religions to ease conversion (also not Jesus, obviously). So pretty much every version of Christianity today does not have its roots in Jesus - so are any of them real Christianity?
A perfect example of what I was saying about MM, taco. Trying watching that YouTube clip with your eyes closed, ppl, picturing a "respectable" man in a suit and tie speaking. The imagery says one thing, but his words say another - there`s a really wise man behind all that makeup.
[quote]It`s better to use a profanity than to hurt someone.Deep.[/quote]
It was a little funny.
"Yes, my car is very cool but the problem that I continue to have is that Gospel music just doesn`t have the "oomph" that Marilyn Manson`s albums do. If you have better bands, by all means, recommend them but another note like this on my car and I`ll ensure you actually get to hear some Marilyn Manson rather than just hear about him.
P.S. I played Antichrist Superstar for you. Favor Repaid.
Hell course I noticed that. You think you atheists are actually worrying Christians with your arguments? Step aside and let the Christians attack each other to death, we`ve had more practice at shooting down everyone but ourself than you can even dream of.
The most ignored verse in the Bible amongst Christians is probably Mark 9:42 - And if anyone causes [a believer] to stumble [in his/her beliefs], it would be better for him to be thrown into the sea with a large millstone tied around his neck.
Every single REAL christian says that about every other christian.Ever notice that?
You mean that you don`t and anyone who agrees with you doesn`t. I can, and have, found plenty of Christians who say that. You think they`re fake. No doubt at least some of them would think that you`re fake.
Now everyone, quote me and tell me about god.
That`s complete bullsh*t Angi, you won`t find any REAL Christian who says that. The Bible makes it very clear that ALL things are God`s will. You spray the aphids in your garden and lay poison for the ants in your kitchen, it that "evil" or "bad"? No, because you have a wider picture, a broader plan, than the ants can see.
"Christians" that say that like going to church because its a good social club, have read 10 verses of the Bible, and are raising themselves up to be God`s equal. Stop dissing God you idiots!
Matthew 7:22-23 - Many will say to me, `Lord, Lord, didn`t we prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons, and do many miracles?` And I will tell them plainly, `I never knew you. Get away from me, you doers of evil!`
If you left a very nice note on my car, like this person did, I wouldn`t be pissed. And nobody cares if you don`t want their opinion. Seeing as your life revolves around what you want, you should assume that it`s the same for the person leaving the note.
Considering "by Him, all things were created", I`d say closer to 100%.
You can`t apply reason to religion.
The response will simply be that anything good is down to their god and anything bad is down to either human free will or their implementation of their devil.
Applying reasoning to religion is as futile as plaiting fog. Religion is inherently irrational. Even when it directly contradicts itself, followers will not see a problem.
I`m not saying there are better things to laugh about, I`m saying there are more interesting things to talk about.
You`re being unpleasant. Either you`re just trying to wind me up or you`re one of the unpleasant theists. It doesn`t matter which - either says a great deal about your character.
You`re just using me as a target for your patronising condescension. That`s what you`re doing either way - whether you`re a Christian or you`re not a Christian and you`re just lying to wind me up.
If I attached any weight to your opinion, I`d be annoyed by that.
You cannot pray for me. I don`t believe in your god and, more importantly, you didn`t ask my permission. So you are praying *at* me, not *for* me. The reason you give makes that especially clear - you are using prayer as a form of ad hominem attack, an attempt to undermine me personally because you can`t answer my point. At best, you are praying for yourself.
Well, He put us on this earth. How`s that for you?
If I`m feeling argumentative, I point out that they are lying and that they should regard that as a sin. They could work around that by finding a part of their bible to interpret into saying that a lie is a good thing for a Christian to do in the circumstances, but most Christians don`t know their own bible very well.
It`s a lie because they are not praying for me (or you, or whoever).
*They chose to do it without my consent.* This is the important point. It would annoy me because it`s something they are doing at me without my consent, if it wasn`t for the fact that I regard it as meaningless.
But the fact remains that they are not and can not be praying for me. They are praying for themselves. They are therefore lying when they say they`re praying for me.
If they honestly thought leaving a note was going to do some good and make this person "see the light", they should have left their phone number on the note for future help. After all, new found Christians need "Christian Guidance" don`t they?
It`s too bad. If they had this would be much more fun.
Manson`s an ignorant fool but if you honestly believe this then you have no taste in music. Antichrist Superstar was an amazing album no matter who you are.
TheSharpest and tkpb9381, unless you lied on your age, neither one of you were older than 4 years old when that album was released, you have no room to make judgments on things you don`t understand.
I can`t say I`ve ever heard Marilyn Manson put down the Flying Spaghetti Monster, so it`s not even true!
...`Guy` is the right word, right?