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In one paragraph, you demonstrated a lack of ability with both maths and English. That`s not a good way to make a point.
The numbers referred to were *percentages*. The total population is therefore irrelevant as long as it`s large enough to be a valid sample. 16.6 million is large enough for that.
oh my. ok. Fox is trying to make it seem that legalization leads to crime rate increase. that crime is something inherent to drug production. ok?
now, drug gangs take the risk of fighting the police and not paying taxes. that`s the difference between a firm and a drug gang. why do they do that? well, because drug business is illegal! if it was legal, like baking bread is, then there`d be no reason for criminals to be involved in the process of production. of course, they would still steal things, but that`s not what we`re talking about here.
These people don`t know what they`re talking about.Supply and demand, supply and demand...If you legalize pot, demand goes down because people will say "hey...I can grow this stuff now?". How can you monopolize and make money off something that anybody can grow?
This is assuming that I understood the first section of the clip -.-
As long as a lot of money is involved (ie for cigarettes excises, huge amounts of it), it`s perfect for criminals to either steal truckloads and sell it or just counterfeit known brands with truly inferior products (adding god knows what products to it, making them even worse than they are now) and make huge profits on it.
The amount of coffee shops being closed is a lot less than the media lets on. The `refurbishing` of the city image with the crackdown on organised crime is taking place almost solely in the red light district,a relatively small area.
word!! jesus, those people steal your money and freedom, why the hell would you trust them, anyway. unless, of course, you watch Fox and your brain has been washed out.
what I`m trying to say, is that when you legalize something (and I mean legalize, i.e. legalize buying and selling, not "legalize" possesion), the organized crime disappears, of course. there`s no reason for mafia to handle bussiness that is legal. there`s no organized crime around cigarettes, for example. you don`t have to build a mafia if you wanna deal in something legal, you just start a company.
FOX, on the other hand, says something exactly opposite, if I understand it right.
You have a far better government than China, that`s for sure. I`m not glad that China is growing [b]with its current system of rule.[/b] I`d rather have the USA as the dominant world power than China as it currently is. The USA is of course imperfect, but the people who set it up really tried to get the government right. Although the people who set the Roman republic up put even more checks and balances on political power and look how that turned out.
Lion, thank you! It drives me nuts when my friends and family walk around talking about how we`re the best country ever and all the other countries are just jealous of how awesome we are. Did it never cross their minds that we`re just so haughty and full of ourselves that it drives everyone nuts? Or that we culturally impose ourselves on other nations?
I love so many things about the US, but I`m glad China is growing, I`m glad this recession happened. Americans need a serious reality check. What exactly do we have that makes us better *people*?
America isn`t the first to rise and she won`t be the last to fall. When our time comes to take a bow, we`ll overcome the ugly doings of our past and nourish the beautiful ones. We won`t be the Queen Bee, but then our pride will be from love rather than arrogance.
Besides that the US is a pretty insular country which I think is where much of their patriotism comes from. It is my least favourite part of their culture. Not trying to bash on the US as I know a lot of people who live there are not like that but there are large numbers of idiots in every country and thats the direction the US`s idiots have moved in.
First you said that nationality is race. Now you say that race is nationality. You`re wrong either way.
"I use the term in the normal way its used these days, on IAB and elsewhere."
That would be as a general accusation to be used against a person you disagree with, a weapon to silent dissent by smearing the dissenter personally.
"A "N" for example, is only from a single tribe of the Niger River region"
Wrong. `niger` is the Latin word for `black` and has the same meaning in a racial context.
" - there are tens of thousands of black "nationalities" in Africa but when someone says you`re a racist because you used the N word, he isn`t implying it was just against that one tribe, but against all those who share the same national origin."
Wrong. The word has never had anything to do with nationality.
First you said that nationality is race. Now you say that race is nat
Except unemployed people don`t pay taxes.
I`m a proponent of legalization, but what Amsterdam did was not legalization, it was "ghettoization." The fact that it failed so miserably and predictably is now being used to discredit legalization, which is a shame. Drug prohibition is killing thousands of people around the world and costs $trillions. All we have accomplished is to give a monopoly to organized criminals and terrorists who are using their money and power to corrupt the entire world.
Seriously, watching this is like watching a crack-ho calling the meth addict black.
Implied racisim non-intentional.
Cmon Lionhart, quit saying it`s free, we all know that taxes pay for it.
@Sonikku, if you actually read some of the news websites, the fact that weed is legal in Amsterdam has everything to do with it. Apparently a person can only carry possess 30 grams of weed at a time. And it is illegal to sell and buy weed. So where does it come from?
http://www.dutchamsterdam.nl/686-amsterdam-coffeeshops-organized-crimeNow for those of you who can`t comprehend what you are reading, why doesn`t the guy that made this video attack his own countrymen? Why doesn`t he attack MSNBC, or NYTimes who both ran stories about organized crime and its link to the legalization of weed and the red light district?
The few stations that exist for any other purpose would not be in our homes without the 99% of stations that exist to make money.
the percentages of od`s is about equal when you take the considerable differences in numbers into account
having said this, it still looks like a nice place to visit
America has more military power > No (China)wealth > No (Qatar)and political influence > Yes, possiblymost natural resources > No (Russia)some of the most beautiful land > No (Mid-Europe)and the worlds greatest learning institutions > No (Japan)
To be fair:
America has more military power > No, but more than Europe (that`s the discussion, right?)
wealth > No, but more than any single country in Europe (just a guess, plus it`s not fair to compare continent to country)
and political influence > Yes, possiblymost natural resources > No, but more than Europe, unless your only talking about the part of Russia in Europe (Russia)some of the most beautiful land > Opinion, plus he said "some" so you can`t deny that (Mid-Europe)and the worlds greatest learning institutions > Well, an awful lot of Japanese come to our college
I use the term in the normal way its used these days, on IAB and elsewhere. A "N" for example, is only from a single tribe of the Niger River region - there are tens of thousands of black "nationalities" in Africa but when someone says you`re a racist because you used the N word, he isn`t implying it was just against that one tribe, but against all those who share the same national origin.
I think the programmable electronic computer would serve as a more important example for a relatively recent invention. Or the jet engine. Or controllable supersonic planes. Or maybe the steam engine that made the industrial revolution (and thus nearly all modern technology) possible.
Off the top of my head: the Romans had a postal service 2000 years before the USA existed. Britain and Europe had postal services long before the creation of European colonies in America.
"Oliver Evans designed the refrigerator he was American."
Yes, but William Cullen did it over 50 years earlier. He was Scottish.
"We invented electricity for your drill."
That is so silly that I don`t even need to debunk it.
"Without our invention of the submarine your torpedo would be worthless..."
Torpedoes can be fired from ships, but that`s an aside. The submarine was invented by a Dutchman long before the USA existed.
"I could do this to each item in your list."
Please continue to so clearly demonstrate the point I made earlier:
I`d bet good money that nearly everything that you think was invented in the USA was invented in the UK or Europe, probably
"Australian" is a nationality, not a race. If you believe in the concept of race(*), you`d have to put most people in the USA and most people in Australia in the same race.
* It is a matter of belief, because it`s not supported by biology. It`s an artificial construct.
The point of the IAB post is that Europe is doing it better than the US in many ways, and that is unarguably true. Aus isn`t Europe, but go to the Aust Govt Social Security page, browse through the SS payments you get as an individual or couple, with or without children, for having no job - and this is time-unlimited. It is the BASE income all Australians can rely on, 24/7, every day of their life. In addition to free doctor, dentist, hospital, etc.
1838 Pre-paid postage1856 Refrigerator1874 Torpedo1889 Electric Drill1894 First powered flight1897 Differential gears1902 Notepad1906 Feature film1906 Surf life-saving reel1912 Tank1917 Aspro1924 Car Radio1930s Nuclear Fusion1934 Ute1944 Antibiotic penicillin1953 Solar hot water1958 Black Box flight recorder1961 Ultrasound1965 Inflatable escape slide1965 Wine cask1970 Staysharp knife1972 Orbital internal combustion engine1979 Race-cam1979 Bionic ear1980 Wave-piercing catamarans1984 Frozen embryo baby1992 Multi-focal contact lens1993 Scramjet1993 Underwater PC1995 Jindalee Radar System
America has more military power > No (China)In terms of numbers, yes. In terms of technology, we are way more advanced than them. Brains over Brawn.wealth > No (Qatar)Overall or per-capita?and political influence > Yesmost natural resources > No (Russia)This might be true, but the US utilizes more of the natural resources than Russia.some of the most beautiful land > No (Mid-Europe)I`ll agree with you there...and the worlds greatest learning institutions > No (Japan)Oxford (UK), Harvard, Yale. They are good AND prestigious. I don`t know the name of one university in Japan.
As do the inventions and research of every other nation on earth, America has no special dominance there, and in fact, per capita, produces far less than many other countries in both goods and research. So you don`t need to be lectured by an Australian, eh? You racist. Half your medicine comes from Australian research, the CSIRO contributed heavily to the development of the internet, and we invented movies.
I`d bet good money that nearly everything that you think was invented in the USA was invented in the UK or Europe, probably the UK. The USA may have improved manufacturing processes for many of them, though. But probably not as much as Japan did.
The USA is a very large, very powerful country founded on noble (but still extremely flawed) principles that it usually fails to live up to because it`s full of people rather than saints.
In many ways it`s pretty similar to the British empire and like the British empire it has a lot of everything, good, bad and indifferent. Or the Roman empire, going back a bit further.
Exactly the sort of blindness I`m talking about. Let`s break down your claims:
Accuracy Score: 13%
That article explains that the authorities have prevented any legal supply of cannabis to coffeeshops.
If the authorities prevent legal supply, of course it results in illegal supply. If they wish to prevent the illegal supply, they just have to allow legal supply. The policy they`re applying undermines itself and is therefore foolish.
It`s about bums on seats. The sole point of TV for profit is to gain more viewers, which results in more profit. Controversy does that better than facts.
The person who made this video missed the sex thing entirely - the shocking horror (according to Fox) of teaching children about sex and having very liberal attitudes towards sex appears to have worked rather well in the Netherlands, directly contradicting the claims Fox made.
Getting back to recreational drugs - the bottom line is the bottom line. There`s more profit when it`s illegal.
That`s awesome dude! Good thinking. On a side note, try doing the same for Detroit, Miami, Washington, LA, New Orleans etc etc etc.
America also arguably has the most natural resources, some of the most beautiful land, and the worlds greatest learning institutions.
Sure, we have problems. That doesn`t mean we aren`t the best. :)
There are many parallels between modern America and Nazi Germany, I`m not even going to go into them the list is so long. But look at the blind faith, the absolute sense of rightness and destiny, the interfering with other nations, of Germany prior to WW2, and you`ll see it.
No offense. Seriously. Us Aussies are all about "She`ll be right, live and let live". But come down a peg or two and open your eyes, and stop thinking America is the Prom Queen. It isn`t, its just another student in the hall.
You love America, you say its the best country in the world, you say you lead the world in everything, and your President is the #1 man in the world.
None of this is true.
Everywhere else, you`re "just" America. You`re just one more country, and a fairly warmongering one at that. Sure we love your TV shows and goods, just like we love cheap Asian goods. But no-one outside the US considers it to be the "best" country, not by a long shot. You have problems that many other countries have totally eliminated. Your President is seen as just another leader of a country, not *THE* man. Your social security system sucks, and your healthcare is even worse. You`re a nation so blind to itself that the rest of the world just laughs at the poor little Yanks thinking they`re so special.
Although, this time I`m not so sure they`ve gotten them completely wrong, just skewed them a bit. I`ve read pieces from a few online sources talking about how they want to change the way its obtained so that its harder for tourists to obtain, like using banks cards only but allowing the cafes to stock more.
ok, there`s organized crime in Amsterdam, as in any other city on Earth. of course. what`s stupid about Fox is that they try to make it look like DRUGS are the reason. and that legalization of drugs makes crime rate go up. this is why we think Fox are bunch of cretins.
I say anyone who uses the term "sheep," "sheeple," "sheep people," or any variant thereof IS a sheep. Jesus. Pick a new animal to represent your anger.
I OFFICIALLY MAKE THE TERM "CAT BEING TRICKED WITH A LASER"
I still say i`m moving to freaking Europe. "
Well be sure to leave a post when you`ve changed your profile to "Europe" from "Eastern US".
That is, if IAB`s still around in 5-10 years.
I say anyone who uses the term "sheep," "sheeple," "sheep people," or any variant thereof IS a sheep. Jesus. Pick a new animal to represent your anger.
I still say i`m moving to freaking Europe.
Fox isn`t the only one that is reporting on this. Just because someone on IAB is anti-Fox doesn`t mean everything they say is false.
America sucks ba***
Ahh, just kidding, I love the US :)
I don`t see what crime has to do with dutch drug policy.
Anyway, what is Fox trying to say? That Amsterdam is a mess why? Because of the legalization of weed?
In terms of regular viewers (Nielsen Ratings), Fox News rates as the United States` number one cable news network. Which is deeply, deeply disturbing.
OMG - I hate the O`Reilly factor! Another reason I hate Fox News. And the scary thing is that a lot of people that watch these more opinion-bases news shows believe everything they hear, as if it`s real news. Sometimes people forget that they can`t believe everything they hear... it`s sad.
Not going to touch this with a ten foot poll. Too complicated, too little time, too little to gain.
Come On! Thank God for that website :D
My god... it`s worse than I thought. They don`t even like SAFE sex.
WHAT HAS OUR WORLD COME TO WHEN WE CAN`T CELEBRATE OUR BODIES!?
Common decency forced laws that made packs of smokes come with warning labels, they should make Fox give constant warnings that they are NOT a news program, but an entertainment program. Claiming to be news is just a flat out lie.
btw....i always love how republicans desperately try to make it look like everyone is worse off than we are....
primetimekin~of course there are pockets of blondes in America, but in Holland, blonds roam free to graze across the country and are not limited to a few metropolian areas.
But I agree, people should not be hindered by ridiculous laws. Let people be and give them legitimate freedom. Yes I do agree with legalization of weed AS WELL AS being anti gun-control. OMGZ!!!
Max, the US doesn`t have an inferiority complex, we`re merely tired of trying to explain ourselves to those whom we saved repeatedly from themselves over the years and whose economies we supplemented so that they could create these wonderful utopias they believe they have; oh, and thanks for buying into the stereotypes and showing us all you level of intelligence.
As far as stats on murder per capita and drugs, Indonesia has some of the world`s most strict laws and their murder rate is .009 versus Holland`s .011. So nice try tho. BTW, you don`t need drugs to have an enriched life.
That`s right, in miami there is a lot of overweight cubans and other latinos as well! =)
That is all.
Amsterdam may have better statistics than the USA (overall) and it is still a nice place. This video though, Didn`t refute the headlines being made there though.
Look for yourself. Amsterdam has the 2nd highest crime rate in the nation, Is closing pot shops, And has mafia/gang involvement in it`s drug sales.
I SIDE WITH EUROPE ON THIS ONE!!
You`ve obviously never been to miami
A Californian: Michigan? What`s a Michigan?
Amsterdam`s a happy place, cause a stoner is happier than a drunk
US has a huge inferiority complex. This is why they have to continually xenophobically stereotype and attack the rest of the World while spouting hilarious dogma about being the best country in the World.
Leave it to Bill O`Reilly and FOX News to spread disinformation.
After the first Gulf War, I traveled to Europe to unwind for a couple of weeks, and ended up living and working in the Netherlands for six months.
It was relatively clean, quiet, and most of all peaceful. I worked as a doorman at a club, and had far fewer problems than I did at ANY club I worked at in the U.S.
I can personally vouch for the fact that most of the drug-related problems (and there weren`t very many) are caused by young German, British and American tourists who arrive in the Netherlands with the mistaken impression that "anything goes" in Amsterdam. One of my roommates was a Dutch girl who worked in another club until late at night on the other side of the city, and she could ride her bike home at 2am with no fear of being bothered or accosted by anyone. There is NO urban area in the United States where that would be possible.
I have to side with Europe on this one.
Amsterdam is a city....
-meant city, didnt proof read.
It`s hard to take you seriously with that grammatical atrocity floating about.
Aren`t we supposed to discourage flame wars?
Amsterdam is a city....
Not America, Fox
F*CK YOU, FOX!!
If they thought he didn`t know what he was talking about, why did they place him in the highest job to do with their drugs policy?
The real reason they said it, is that he didn`t toe the line and just say what they wanted him to say.
I`ve lived in both the Netherlands and Spain, and their drug policies are much more effective at targetting the harder drugs and having a reasonable response to less harmful ones like cannabis.
In Spain for instance, the drug policies effectively encourage weed smokers to grow their own, as both possession and cultivation have been decriminalised for personal use, whilst buying or selling it a
Your sick mate, she`s a dog
That said, I love the video, but if you watch Bill`s response to the video, you will likely be frustrated, as he basically just says that all the information presented in it was false for some reason he that he doesn`t clarify.
America`s media doesn`t necessarily reflect America`s people.
But you all knew this and this video is just for fun.
And please don`t call it Faux news, it makes you sound pathetic and partisan. They`re still the only ones who would report on multiple ACORN offices encouraging an underage sex-slave trade. So please.
There are countries north over america?