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On IAB, pretty much only the first 5 comments actually have to do with the link. After that, it`s tangent city.
It`s ridiculous 8 years from now we are still so sensitive about the subject that people are getting upset at some guy working hte post office who probably was just trying to get things done quickly and was given a plane stamp and happened to stamp the twin towers. And honestly, imo, kinda funny in a, "Ooops, look at that" kinda way.
Ok, I can understand not finding it particularly funny. I can`t understand actually being upset at it. At least not when it wasn`t right after the incident nevermind 8 years later.
To me that kind of reaction is just as overreacting as saying we should change our emergency number to 000 because 911 happens to be the same numbers as the date. I could at least understand if it was right after the incident as emotions will be at their highest then, but having a fit now about 911 just is overreactionary.
"What the hell was that?"-Mayor of Hiroshima
For the person complaining about the picture beside my name: there is a strong difference between an idol and a goal. Notice how it says "Vote" not "Become".
For the person who attempted to describe me: Well, you got the age right. Unfortunately, my age is rather blatantly posted under my name... You are right in saying that I am an atheist, but that is also posted on my profile. So, you read two things, reposted them, (correctly) and then guessed on the rest. Sorry, but you got 2/6. Thanks for playing, better luck next time.
Let me be clear about two things:1. Everything I have posted on this board has been exclusively my opinion, I have never once tried to come off as preachy or bossy.2. I am freaking terrible with words. I try my best to translate my thoughts into words and often I fail at doing it comprehensively. This is obviously one of those times.
I`ll try to sum up what I tried to say originally one more time, then I`ll be out of your hair. Feel free to talk about me behind my back all you want :-D.
It is my opinion that Americans (and maybe other nationalities as well) have been "seeing the Virgin Mary in Toast", like I said previously. I think the 9/11 attacks have stayed much more prominently in our subconscious than other, more recent problems in our world. (Notice: I am simply comparing, not attacking!) That is all I meant to come
Nope Baal, not at all. People were comparing it to car accidents, not atrocities that occur all over the world. As I write this, someone, somewhere is being murdered in a brutal fashion. You think that doesn`t sadden me? But, to say it is not more impactful when it happens in your own backyard would be a lie. That`s animal nature.
Dude, who are you talking to? Lol
There were no planes.
OH MY NAAAME IT AIINT NOOOOOOOOTHIIIINN
How long would that have taken and in the process how many civilians and soilders would die when you starve an army you starve civilians too.
But I think it`s a fake. How many cents does this stamp have, anyway?
Yeah, why don`t you take them away in a big boat? Why not, while you`re at it, give them some work to do? How about on a big cotton plantation? that ought to do nicely...
there are ways. there are always ways to solve this problem. When your idea (good job for trying to help anyways) starts with killing more and letting them die, that is not a good idea now is it. Common sense should tell you that the deaths your idea creates will need many more decades to balance out with the result.
The only other alternative, that would prevent them from having to die, would be to move all the healthy ones to another land, let the AIDS die (50 years ought to do it) bring the people back to Africa, with them having the knowledge of how to build a functional society, which we would have built during those 50 years.
Back to the Africa topic from earlier.
The problem with Africa is that we`re giving it food, money and all the stuff to help them be able to live. That creates a longer lifespan, long enough for them to get past teenagehood, have a few kids and die of some crappy disease like AIDS or Malaria, or whatever.
The best thing we could ever do is cut all the funding and sadly, let them die. they have the ability to produce food, just not in the quantities their current population can allow. Also, the main problem with AIDs, is that a LOT of them are misinformed and think of it as a "hot potato", and go and rape someone and then say "You`re it!". Stopping helping them will eventually lead to a catastrophic decrease in their population, but the HIV positive ratio will be down, the food per person ratio will improve and they will be more self-sufficient than they are currently capable.
I would write
Ford came out with Ford Pinto ("September 11th, a coincidence) that had defective gas tanks which caused a few of those cars to explode. Through cost-benefit analysis Ford said it was cheaper to pay off the family members rather than recall all the cars Ford sold. What kind of drated up poo is that?
Also, there was also another occasion where America supplied 3rd world countries with medication without advising them about the consequences they would cause.
I love America and I am proud to be one. There are certain things, however, that I am ashamed of.
The US ended WW2 by dropping atomic bombs on 2 cities filled with innocent civilians instead of militarily significant targets.
Australia committed near-genocide of its aboriginal population because they were ignorant savages as judged by the standards of the people with the guns.
And every German civilian believed that their cause was just, right and fair and that they were only taking back territory and peoples which were historically theirs anyway.
No-one says its fair, but its always "Right" when you do it, and "Wrong" when the other side does. And God, according to each side, is on their side.
Sad though it is, c`est la vie.
Sabra and Shatilla massacres?
When the IDF surrounded a village and sent in a paramilitary group to massacre women and children in the village while blocking off escape routes, the international community did nothing.
Israel then elected the person responsible to be their leader, and the American President called him a "man of peace" and wondered idiotically why this man was not being negotiated with by the Arabs.
He is responsible for more deaths than Osama bin Laden, in a horrific incident worse on every metric than 9/11.
America decided to abstain on the vote on whether or not it should be considered genocide.
So lets not forget that shall we not, or is that not horrible enough to meet your standards?
that`s pretty awesome for you lion, especially since you aren`t even American, that shows how caring you are
Its even more ironic than you realize! Here in Australia the emergency number is 000, and your IQ is...?
You only have 33 posts. IAB has been like this for years.
That seems quite detailed. What... were you actually there watching this happen?
If you can`t make fun of it, the f ucking terrorists have won. Lighten up a bit.
The European way of doing dates is day/month/year. So it would be 119 instead (disregarding the year here).
You know, but it was only 3000 people."
I agree with supersmash...unless you were in NYC at the time you have absolutely no clue...freekill if you`re family or loved ones were on a plane or in a tower I don`t think "3,000 days" would be enough time to get over their senseless deaths.
But you don`t love your family and friends any more than some random animal?
The world we live in...
I respond to comments in the matter they deserve. Your comment that by "move on" you meant "do something productive" was utterly ridiculous. So, I responded with a ridiculous and overly sarcastic response.
First thing I`m gonna "invade" is Monobrow`s mom.
To the obvious n00bs who are bewildered by the fact that "IAB people take things so seriously":
Does it bother you that a website exists where people will take issue with ignorant comments, and attempt to enlighten/educate the ignorant commenter?
If it does, then perhaps this is not the place for you. I would suggest 4chan, that way you can say all the ignorant, uneducated sh*t you want and no one will care, or if they DO care, they won`t call you on it since you can be "anonymous".
@ seabass101dg: I pity YOU fool, since your attempted slam on me is rendered meaningless by the fact that the intention of the "dedication" went right over your head.
That`s what happens when you comment without knowing what`s going on.
Why did you delete your other post? And how exactly was I being serious by quoting myself at a time when I was joking around?
I`m confused, but likely because of what I just attempted to type.
I`m sick of playing the nice guy, especially because I am apparently very bad at it. I respect those who deserve respect, If death is the only requirement for respect, I should also respect Benito Mussolini and his ideals, seeing as they are both theoretically dead. (Well... more him then his ideals I suppose.) And seeing as I don`t respect either....
Wow, that seems pretty hypocritical on your part, considering the fact that your being just as serious about your arguments as we are.
A great man once said:"Jesus, for people on a website called "i-am-bored.com" you people take things pretty damn seriously."
Seriously. Please chill out. If you don`t like my opinions, you have a few options:
1. Disagree and state your opinion maturely, telling me why I am wrong.2. Kill me for being an infidel. (I urge you to reconsider)3. Reductio ad absurdum. (You may have well just killed me.)
Sounds vaguely familiar.
Batman Arkham Asylum is an amazing game, you should all check it out while you are the subject of batman and not anything esle.
Take over? Holy Imperialistic Colonialism, Batman!
Freekill, yeah we just sit around all day thinking about 9/11. We don`t do anything. In fact, I don`t think a single person has gone to work in 8 years. You are right. Nothing productive has gone on in the U.S. since 9/11 because we just can`t move on.
Wow, I`m impressed. Someone who is creative enough to think of an idea that will actually benefit people rather than the social status of people who pretend to! Kudos.
By the way, I`m wondering why we got a chat and no one uses it for debates. Don`t you guys think that`d be a little more efficient? No? I mean, these forum debates have been going on forever.
on the whole Africa subject....ehhh if I were incharge, I`d stop all the economic help going there, take over the whole continent of Africa (other than SA) with the joined forces or USA, Europe, Australia, and any Asian country that wants to join. Then put people who actually care about improving Africa into presidency (a couple of people from USA, a couple from Europe, and so on)....and then I`d send economic help to Africa.
Yes that`s what I`d do. Call me stupid, but I think it would work a lot better then just pumping money into Africa when the leaders don`t give a crap about the people.
P.S yes, i know it`s an improbable idea, but hey, its mine and i like it!
I don`t know about you (again I play the ignorance card :-P) But every year my high-school, as well as my town and other communities of sorts in my area throw massive ceremonies to remember those who were lost.
If it`s different for you, then I suppose my comments are moot for you. Why did you bother pointing them out again?
Jesus, for people on a website called "i-am-bored.com" you people take things pretty damn seriously. I am not so unbelievably ignorant to think a stunt like that would work! I have completely different views on Africa that have nothing to do with this topic, so I`ll keep them to my self.
For the record, I didn`t just "throw that number out there" that number is used countlessly by money-grubbing Christian "charities". It is a number that is used as in impact statement, not an economic figure. I can`t remember the exact economists that came up with it, but you could google it if you`re interested. I obviously should have put it in quotes or something. Again, I apologize if this was a misunderstanding.
PS: I think it includes Australia as well. :-?
What resources are we wasting again?
That is not remotely what I am saying, and I offended that you think so. What I am saying (or trying to in this case) is that we have large scale problems right now. 9/11 was terrible, many people were affected, I agree, it was murder. (I fortunately, was not one of them, so maybe I am too ignorant to speak on this topic.) My point is, people are wasting too much time and resources complaining about things that are said and done.
When I said "get over it" I don`t mean "forgive and forget" I mean "move one and do productive things with your life". Otherwise terrorism will have worked. I just want people to stop seeing the Virgin Mary in toast. Sorry for those who I have offending, I hope it was misunderstanding.
"as I said before, better to look into the future, instead of worrying about the past."
Then why were you talking about WW2?
It`s like if a loved one died 8 years ago. It`s not being overly sensitive to get offended when people say, "Get over it."
It`s not like it affects you everyday and you hardly think about it. But, the fact that it happened a while ago doesn`t give others the right to belittle the situation.
Thank you for finally understanding! as I said before, better to look into the future, instead of worrying about the past. I have in fact lost family members who were close to me, and I `got over it`
God you are terrible in economics arent you?
It`s going to take a pooload more than that. The US, Canda, EU, Un have donated Hundreds of Billions of Dollars to Africa.
Not to mention that when you increase the amount of people who get food, the prices of food go up. So congrats you solved Africa, how about El Salvador? How about the Unemployed American who can barely afford bread? You just threw that number out there and hoped you`d be right didn`t you?
Oh only a medium sized city, okay, that`s not that bad.
Not to mention the 8 million people who live in New York City who were most likely affected.
"9/11 was nearly 3000 days ago. With all due respect, it`s time to stop being so damn touchy and get over it."
You`re right, I guess all the people who had the ones they loved die should just "get over it".
Many (actually thousands of) organizations world-wide is trying to solve the issue with african hunger/disease/malnutrition/etc. So seriously... don`t be a little smartass to treat 9/11 or any mass-murder as a similar case with the large number of issues that exists in Africa. You do not know Africa.
Just an FYI, the reason people don`t talk about the holocaust much anymore, is probably because they`re very old, or dead. Also, after finding all the concentration camps, there was also the whole realization that everybody lost a lot of people in the war.
Don`t compare things that can`t be compared. Sure they were both murder based on hate, but the message behind it is the lesson you should learn. The number of people who have to die isn`t what is relevant, it`s how much that message has the ability to change your life.
one suggestion : GO READ SOME BOOKS
I resent 9/11 not because of the lives lost (~3000) but because of the way certain people took advantage of the immediate hysteria of losing those lives. (Read: Second Gulf War.)
More children die every day in Africa due to malaria alone than the total number of American lives lost on Sept 11/01. If someone created a stamp commerating the mosquito, would you cry about it? (Okay, bad example....) World poverty could be cured if Canada, the US and the EU gave up .1% of their GDP. And yet, we`re sitting around, b*tching because a post-worker made a plane look like it`s near some towers.
9/11 was nearly 3000 days ago. With all due respect, it`s time to stop being so damn touchy and get over it.
Or you have no idea what your talking about and have absolutely no idea of what happened in the camps, and that`s why you can`t go into detail. I`m sure time isn`t the real issue for you, because somehow I don`t see you having an action-packed life that is so busy you can`t spare a minute and explain.
I`m not going to waste my time trying to make you understand DEATH=BAD, because you probably already understand it and are just posting comments like "get over it.", to get attention.
In this case, I think the best way to get you to go away and shut up would be to ignore you. Don`t feed the troll type thing.
You know, but it was only 3000 people.
Okay, take that 3000 people.Now, think about every person those 3000 people, know, love, and cared about.Lets say every one of those 3000 people had 10 close friends, and 6 close family members.Now multiply that 3000 by that 16.
That`s 48000 people, more or less. 3000 people may have died, but that`s only a fraction of the people who were truly affected.MonoBrow, just quit now before you make yourself look like a bigger ass.
Human life has value, no matter the quantity.
He`ll grow up one day.
Monobrow, before you say, "You don`t even know me", I already know all I need to know...
Oh yeah, then he`ll describe a situation in which he was affected.
After all, this thread IS dedicated to you
There is a reason that those films have never been shown publicly, although they ARE available if someone REALLY wants to see them.
Your cavalier attitude towards both the Holocaust (which you referred as "the gassing of the Jews" there was a LOT more to it than that bud. you have NO idea), and the 9/11 attacks indicate that you just don`t have the maturity it takes to understand death/murder on a large scale.
No one "whines more about 9/11 than the Holocaust"
And as for your statement that a "measly 3000 people died in the 9/11 attacks" FU*K YOU.
One of those "measly 3000 people" was a man named Leonard Castrianno.
He was my friend.
Lived through? Yes. There are only ever 1 or 2 events that happen in your life, where you will remember where you were, how you felt. Its the only time in my adult life I can remember crying, even thinking about it now almost makes me. As we watched, live, people jumping out of windows to their death, we all shared the tragedy, but more, it made us ask: would I be brave enough to jump, knowing that I was dead anyway, or would I pathetically hang in, hoping for a miracle? Would I claw someone out the way to get to the stairs? Who would I ring in the last moments of my life? Or would I lose it and sob in a corner till the end?
The tragedy is not in the 3,000 who died, but in how it made every person watching, worldwide, question themselves. In that, we were all victims of 911.
Hmm, I seem to be missing your sense of humor.F*ck stick
"another reason why there aren`t movies about 9/11 is because it IS such a touchy subject still, you Americans would freak if they made a movie about 9/11."
you mean like United 93?
There area bunch of movies about ww2 from nearly every angle...except maybe the russians that lost more people than anyone else.
You make it sound like all WW2 Movies are "Seinfeld goes the Auschwitz"
With comments like his, I wouldn`t put any actual money on his birthday being over 8 years ago, prime!
My very first dedication!
thats a very sobering thought...
This mere incident was the most tragic non-natural disaster event. Not to mention it had several economic implications world wide.
9/11 was this decade.Holocaust was not even this century (ok its early 2000s i cheated a bit on that one).
Not to mention that ww2 is played out. There are a pooload of movies on that compared to 9/11.
Obvious troll is obvious?
"it happened nearly 8 years ago, get over it."
So was your birthday, people still celebrate it....unless mommy doesnt love you...which I dont doubt
Tell that to the faces of the families who had people die there...