The ICP-Juggalo Gathering 2009 [Video]

Submitted by: Fancys_Asst 8 years ago in Tech

Slightly longer than most videos on I-A-B, but you gotta give it a chance. You will not believe how ICP fans party.
There are 202 comments:
Male 6
and hey ipirate dude u dont no the first thing about the family or icp or anybody it seems u cant say that icp sucks or whatever bc they did not go fight that guy at the studeo bc if they did they would go to jail so im glad they did not beat his ass bc then they would be in jail so stop commenting stuff u dont no about ok
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Male 6
dude the gathering is something great no one need to make fun of it or the bands that r in it bc u no nothing of the gathering or the family or what all of it means to the family ok
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Female 48
I just wasted over 7 minutes of my life that I can never get back...thanks IAB
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Female 56
Also, this Gathering was FULL of poser Juggalos who have no idea what that means. I acutally stopped wearing my Hatchet Gear because I was tired of them coming up to me acting like I should give them a ride somewhere cuz they`re 14 wearing an ICP shirt.

Also...we know that it`s a meat cleaver....Twiztid even uses that phrase in a song, but do you have any idea how much harder it would be to rhyme and say that all the time...it`s much easier to say "Hatchetman" than "Meat Cleaver Man"

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Female 56
I know these comments were made way before, but I am a Juggalette, who has graduated from college, had a child that when I was pregnant with him, I never smoked or drank, and I don`t smoke anyway, not even weed! I know that most people say the MAJORITY of Juggalos are the opposite of me, but if you think about it, most of them were "outsiders" before they were Juggalos, and they found acceptance from the Juggalo Family. So obviously the majority are going to be made up of people that society doesn`t like or accept. You`re hating on us for being Juggalos, when the whole reason we`re Juggalos is because we were hated on when we weren`t Juggalos....
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Female 837
I half expected my ex-boyfriend to be in this video. He was supposed to be there. *shrugs* He claims he was friends with ICP. I laughed. :)
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Male 3,058
Geez... I walked away from this, and it`s like the second string came running up yelling "Put me in Coach!!!"
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Female 447
I have to admit I listened to ICP for a good while but when they became wrestlers it just drove me away. They were ok, but they were no Funkdoobiest or Cypress Hill.
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Male 228
If everyone of these people died at once, the collective gene pool of the world would be exponentially better off.
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Male 694
you all need to stop judging people for their life choices. does it harm you? no. let them/us be who we want to be, dont try to make us conform to what is seen as "normal"
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Male 418
You obviously can not accurately comprehend anything anyone is saying who has an IQ over 100. I did base my opinion of them on their willingness to fight, but not in the way you think I did. I`m not saying they weren`t willing enough to fight, they were TOO WILLING to fight. Their not douche bags because they didn`t fight, they are douche bags because they told people to come down to the studio to fight, as they were the ones who insighted the fight. I, personally do not fight, nor do I ever plan to. On the other hand, violent j, could be described as "some lil punk who thinks hes hard and judges people based on their willingness to fight." As, said again, by some idiot on these forums.

Also, I didn`t use that tool Howard Stern in an argument. He had nothing to do with it, they just happened to be on the show. It wouldn`t have made a difference had it been on Bill O`Reilly`s show, or CSPAN. Don`t even try and use that as a riposte.

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Male 5,189
Woah this is still going on lol. It`s a trend for kids. Theyll get older and start being one less and less....zomg kinda like a religion. I mean if your 40 tossing on makeup like that then...lulz.
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Male 694
have you EVER talked to someone who is in a religion? THAT is more like a gang that being a juggalo is. and now i can see what kind of person you are, pirate, you are some lil punk who thinks hes hard and judges people based on their willingness to fight. i see. and maybe they would have faught, you never know, Stern didnt let them be in the same room. and your credibility was struck in stone when you decided to use HOWARD STERN as a basis of argument.. im done replying to anyone who says somethin negative about juggalos, unless osiris comes back. and not to flame him more, just to make sure everything is understood.
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Male 2,582
This is all so ridiculous. Every aspect of not only this clip, but this forum, the "band", the fans, the whole thing..
You guys talk about being a "juggalo" like it`s a gang or a "way of life". It just sounds so silly and that is why you two are getting so much beef.
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Female 1,380
wow I`ve been workin for 9 hours and this is what happens...jesus christ. ICP has very very little to do with being a juggalo....it`s more about the family than the music. And osiris no offense...but...no need to name drop here. Not all juggalos are the same ipirate....are you saying that if you met 20 juggalos who were douchebags you could say with confidence that juggalos are douche bags? so if I met 20 mexicans or another race who were douchebags I would be correct in saying that the entire race is made up of douchebags?
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Male 418
When did I say you should hate juggalos because of shaggy and violent gay? I said if anyone isn`t sure if they should hate ICP, not juggalos. To quote one random dumb ass on this thread, "learn to read and comprehend what you are reading..."

And the video provided a very good reason, in my eyes, to not like ICP, not because their musical talent and lyrics are absolute garbage, but because they claimed to fight anyone who came to the studio, someone does, he poos himself. Not fighting may or may not be a good idea, depending on which side of the table you are looking from. But making claims like that on national TV AND radio, then just completely visibly pooting yourself when someone just proved you wrong in front of all of your fans is just embarrassing.

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Male 694
yea...that video TOTALLY showed a reason to hate ICP...shows more reason to hate that black guy actually... and so what? nobody here has gotten upset over anyone hating ICP. jay and shaggy are not the model of every juggalo. they are simply the group ICP, THATS ALL. you can hate any artist you want, but hating their fans because they like the artist? that is retarded
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Male 418
Good job, you identified my "faggy 2 dope and silent gay" quote, and corrected me once, while failing to provide a retort for anything else I said.

To everyone else, who has a shred of doubt in their minds if they should hate ICP or not, watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YkBPVd-I...

The 2 lead clown faggots offered to fight anyone who comes to the studio. Someone does. Silent gay poos his pants. The end.

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Male 694
you have to quote Eminem just ot make an insult agains ICP? nice. and i never said YOU hate blacks or mexicans...learn to read and comprehend what you are reading... im done with you, im just waiting for osiris to come back to make sure he understands my point
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Male 418
Nice job assuming he is the only juggalo that I have ever come in contact with. You`re also really failing to prove the point that a majority of juggalos are not douche bags. Of all the juggalos I have ever come in contact with, ONE of them was of an exceptable nature. (IE, one that wouldn`t make me cover my face in embarrassment, had i be seen with him in public) And, I don`t get it. Why would i want to kill blacks and Mexicans? I have plenty of black and Mexican friends, because they are not a retarded immature douche bag sub culture like juggalos. They are a race, learn the difference. I would even go as far to say is juggalos are even worse than those douche bags who wear shutter shades and make less-retarded-than icp rap music. Trust me, I feel like poo for discriminating against a whole subculture like that, but it`s so hard not to. There are so many things wrong with juggalos. Faggy 2 dope and silent gay are laughing all the way to the bank when they look at all of you faggots.
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Male 694
oh, i TOTALLY agree with you. ONE foolish poser would totally ruin my views on a whole group of people and make me want to kill many many of them... maybe we could be teammates! oh...except you want to kill juggalos, and by your logic, i should want to kill blacks and maxicans... xP sorry, i cant justify killing blacks, mexicans, or juggalos for retarded reasons such as yours. grow up lil dude.
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Male 418
I don`t hate gays. I would just find it embarrassing to have parents who hit on my friends. I would find it even more embarrasing to have my parents, if they were male, hitting on my male friends, because that would be incredibly awkward. Poor example, but an example none the less of how much I hate juggalos. I had a jug in one of my classes last year. I don`t know what made me hate him more, the time he put on a hat with nails sticking out of it that he made, or the time he put on a muzzle. When my teacher saw that, he just sat down in his desk and put his head in his hands. Can you blame him?
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Male 694
im sure EVERYONE here will take you serious, mr pirate, being that you arent yet an adult, AND you hate gays.
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Male 418
Dear Juggalo`s, I don`t normally act like this anymore. BUT, It is a meat cleaver, you stupid drats. If i EVER get diagnosed with a terminal illness and know I am going to die, or just have no reason to live, I`m going to the juggalo gathering guns blazing. I think, buy law, if you are a juggalo your reproductive organs need to be cut out with a hatchet, (or a meat cleaver, since you moronic drats can`t tell the difference between the two) so the poor kids don`t have to suffer through that poo. I would rather have gay parents who hit on all my friends who are guys, than juggalos. Hell, i would rather have 2 drating untrained grizzly bears for parents than 2 juggalos.
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Male 2,582
<TLDR>
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Male 694
and im sorry to have misunderstood, but in my defence, your post describing los and lettes specifically said that you think ALL of us fit the categories you described
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Male 694
i would have helped her. in fact, i would have been by your side in that situation. i have NO beef with you, but i did repeatedly say my only goal was for all of you to realize it is NOT the majority of juggalos that are like that, and the group that attend the gatherings in the last few years are NOT what real juggalos are. if i offended you, or anyone, im sorry. i was simply offended, frusterated, and dealing with my own personal family (blood family) issues, all at the same time. i am not an non-nice individual, however strongly i may have come off as one. you were being hostile back to me as well, however properly you did it. again im sorry to have flamed you, i just dont want the reputation juggalos have received to get any worse. trust me, real juggalos hate the kind of people you have dealt with MUCH MUCH more than you do.
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Male 3,058
Well Jesus Jumping Christ on a Peruvian Pogo Stick...

Is THAT why you`ve been flaming me for two days?

*shakes head in disbelief*

Of COURSE 100% of the Juggalo population isn`t bad... That would be theoretically impossible!


I had an encounter with the subculture in question that soured my opinion of the group as a whole. It was the first time I had seen someone go down at a festival, and just be completely ignored by the people around them.

Couple that with the fact the people in that area who didn`t lift a finger to assist her became hostile towards those of us who came to help.

In conclusion, are ALL Juggalos bad?

No.

Did the far and away majority that I had to deal with display subhuman behavior?

Yes.

Judging from faaaq`s passionate defense of his people, had HE been present, would he have helped this girl?

After reading what he has to say, I would like to think so.

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Male 694
i would have probably agreed with him as well, if he hadnt generalized ALL juggalos and juggalettes. read his first post, and tell me it doesnt resemble the ramblings of a racist? (im NOT saying your racist osiris, im just saying a racist would attack a minority the same way you attacked US). and again, juggalo posers are becoming much more common, and THEY are the non-nice individuals that give REAL juggalos bad names. if i met a so called "juggaho" (i hate that word, its so retarded lol) id beat him down. they deserve it. osiris, your hatred is well deserved, but you need to not direct it at ALL juggalos. i had the poo beaten out of me by four black guys, all so they could get my phone. ive been attacked by other black people, had knives pulled on me, guns, etc. MANY bad experiences with black people. and most ive met fit into the violent criminal stereotype. i however do not direct my hate at ALL black people, because i know i was just unlucky in my experiences.
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Male 5,189
I understand what you mean faaaaq. Maybe my first post on this IS a little mean so sorry on that. I see what your saying there because I know not all people are like that. Not all whites are rednecks not all blacks are robbers and mexicans boarder hoppers etc etc. I try to look from both sides because everyone wants there opinion to be right. It`s just I see a lot of negative things coming from them. BUT you are 100 pct right not all are bad. I fated one who was truely sweet but when she needed help she went to them and didnt get it so i guess it gave me a bad view on it.

But we should ALL try to find the good in everyone. This is even the first time I agreed with osirisascend :P.

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Male 694
i understand what you are saying link, but what IM saying is that the majority of people at the gathering are not the same as the majority of juggalos. if osiris had simply made all his statements about the juggalos at the gathering and not at ALL juggalos, i would have said nothing to him, maybe even agreed with him. and your experience with juggalos is also abnormal, but like i continue to say, i understand where you are coming from. my neighborhood is full of hoodrats, all of which are black and mexican. they shoot at eachother often, and robberies by them are very frequent, but i know not ALL mexicans, blacks, or hoodrats are like that. thats all im asking you to admit, or at least accept as a possibility, that not ALL juggalos, or even the MAJORITY, are like those described by you, osiris, or the video
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Male 5,189
faaaaq what I THINK he is trying to say is the majority are "bad" in that cliique and there are only a few good ones out of a lot of bad ones and since the majority are that way everyone see`s it like that. I`m not a good debater or typer but I hope I put that right.

I personally have known a lot of hardcore ICP people and what osirisascend said is kinda true. I`ve seen one basically left for dead and none would help because they were "busy" or "had work" but I thought ICP people always help out no matter what.

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Male 694
you just wont listen, will you? THOSE people are not the "family" any of us speak of. ive said over and over, THE PEOPLE AT THE GATHERING ARE NOT A PROPER OR APPROPRIATE SAMPLE OF JUGGALOS. and yes, i was mistaken, i ment to say "looting" not "rioting"
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Male 3,058
@ faaaaq: No one in New Orleans was rioting. The fact that you have just compared the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina to what I saw at a music festival I was working at makes me shake my head in disgust.

Nor does it justify in any way the cold fact that the "family" that you speak so highly of and defend in such a reprehensible manner was willing to leave one of their own on the ground unconscious and bleeding from a head wound in a location where she would have been trampled had myself and two other members of the backstage security staff not chosen to leave the area we were assigned to in order to take her to safety.

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Male 694
like i keep saying, you can think and say what you want, but you must agree that generalizing EVERY juggalo because of those at the gathering is stupid. should i generalize EVERY person that lived in New Orleans when they were rioting? NO, because not everyone rioted. and, like i said earlier, those who go to the gathering are NOT a proper sample to base further judgement on. i hate being disrespectful, to anyone, but i felt a need to attack you because of the unfair assumptions you made
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Male 3,058
I made a statement based on my personal dealings with said subculture. You attacked me for a post in which I voiced my disgust at a group of people who let one of their own lay on the ground bleeding from a head wound because ICP was on stage and they couldn`t be bothered.

Every other festival I`ve worked at, people in the crowd would have picked her up and taken her to the first aid station.

Not ONE "Juggalo/Juggalette" lifted a finger to help this girl, so myself and two other security people left the backstage area to help her.

After we picked her up and started moving through the crowd, THAT was when your Juggalo brethren decided to follow us through the crowd screaming "FU*K SECURITY" at us.

Your subculture made a horrible impression on me. What I saw was a complete lack of compassion for someone who is supposedly a member of your family, followed by other members of the "family" trying to start a fight with us, while we were HELPING one of yo

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Male 694
i didnt attack you for proper grammar or being calm. a statement is not an attack. and yes, you didnt attack me personally, you attacked juggalos, a group i am part of. so, to be fair, i suppose i should have attacked black people, or the military, or whatever religion you follow. am i correct? its much more appropriate to attack in individual. you can judge a single person on their words and actions, which is wat i did to you. YOU however, attacked a whole culture and lifestyle based on your minor knowledge of it.
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Male 3,058
@ Link Hiei: Thank you for your words. It`s quite obvious that you and I don`t agree on much, but we never personally attack each other.

@ faaaaq: You didn`t "kinda" attack me. You said that I had been sexually abused by my father, and in a later post, you told me to "go suck my daddy`s dick."

Anyone who wants can go back and see exactly what you said. If they do, they`ll also see that you personally attacked me from your very first post.

Sure you can go back and delete all of it, but my posts will still be there, and it will be quite obvious who went where, and when.

As far as "generalizations" are concerned, that majority of people posing in this thread have made statement very similar to mine.

For some reason, you chose ME as the focus of your personal attacks. Every time I responded, I did not attack you personally, but you came back with more vitriol.

You even attacked me for using proper grammar and responding to you in a calm manner!

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Male 694
everyone is allowed their own opinion, but when you generalize and attack like osiris has been doing, thats when i get upset and attack back. like look at you, you just said you agree with him. im not going to attack you tho, becuase you arent being rude or making personal attacks. yeah, i attacked osiris kinda, but only in defense after his very first comment was an attack against all juggalos
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Male 5,189
Well I went through about 5 pages reading the comments and I must say for the first time I agree with osirisascend. I don`t usually get much into the debates but I think he`s making points this time that I agree with/
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Male 694
you all have a bad habit of generalizing and stereotyping far too much... if we met in person, id most likely never tell you im a juggalo. youd just find out eventually thru normal circumstances.
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Male 5,189
Dont like them. That`s the first thing I always here when I meet them. "Ima Juggalooo" That`s like me telling every person I meet "I`m straight." I dont care I guess. Just another teen trend Im sure.
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Male 3,058
@ faaaaq: Contradicted myself? Where exactly? PLEASE show us where I contradicted myself.

Fifteen posts below this one, any one who wants can read the post I left where I quoted everything you said in your FIRST post in this thread.
The original post is a few pages further back.

It`s time for you to stop being a dick... Seriously... at this point you`re just making an ass of yourself.

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Male 694
come on, someone intelligent and respectful PLEASE come back... the subject is not over, but osiris knows EVERYTHING and therefor im simply no match for him (btw, he just contradicted himself. and i thoroughly enjoyed it)
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Male 3,058
@ faaaaq: Once again, you`re illustrating that you know very little about the music industry.

Very few artists have their own "personal" security. Those that do fall into the category of legend or superstar.

The last "legends" I worked for were Riders On The Storm, which is two original members of The Doors, the former lead singer from .38 Special, and their hired guns as their backing band.

Like most artists that fit into the legend or superstar category, they have ONE security person that travels with them, and they contract with outside venue logistic or security companies for their backstage and personal security while they are on tour.

You honestly don`t know what you`re talking about here. Since I work in the industry, I DO.

Me with Robert Randolph at last years Molson Canal Concert Series.

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Male 694
the last line of defense.
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Male 694
oh, i bow to you zero....your skills are SO much better than mine... and when was this a debate? NEVER. Osiris made this personal with his first comment on the video. i wasnt the one who made it personal. im a juggalo. you say something bad about ALL juggalos, it will of course bother me. if i SERIOUSLY said somethign bad about black people, saying they were ALL the same and other bad things, im sure it would bother Osiris and be a personal assault against his background/culture/whatever. i never attempted to DEBATE this. it seems all you anti-juggalo people have the same goal: WIN the "debate." as ive already said, I DONT CARE ABOUT "WINNING." Osiris made a personal insult against me, and all i did was fire insults back. oh, and this is the last ill say to Osiris: EXCUSE ME?! get off MY high horse? am i the one bragging over and over again about my job, or ANYTHING for that matter? no, thatd be you. and btw, most BIG artists have their own security.
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Male 2,591
HAHA sweet the tittie tear gas story happened at the peoria illinois gathering.. i saw those titties and tasted the tear gas that day...
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Male 3,255
If you need a pre-existing group of people to define who you are as a person, then you completely and utterly fail at life. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

faaaaq and JUGGALETTEx0, this fact you can not debate, you can not defy. When it came time for you two to define yourselves, you chose to mold your existence around a pre-existing group of people. That means you have failed. You have already completely failed BEFORE we even consider how stupid the group you chose is!

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Female 1,380
people always give us poo about being who we are and living our lives the way we want to, a lot of us just naturally trust juggalos more. Of course i`m going to be more prone to hang out with people that I have poo in common with and care about but i`d never (nor would most juggalos) exclude someone because people do that poo to us on a daily baisis and yeah i`m not going to lie it does drating suck.
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Female 1,380
osiris
I never said that you personally called us trash I said you`re all meaning as in to everyone who is. And I apologize for calling you a rent-a-cop. We don`t necessarily exclude people who arent`t juggalos. I have many many friends who are not juggalos and most juggalos are quite accepting of anyone because we don`t give a drat about what they look like, where they came from or anything like that we just care about the person inside. If a juggalo is excluding someone just for not being a juggalo then they`re in the wrong. We just may seem to be around more juggalos than not because thats just who we hang out with and have poo in common with. And if i was hangin around with a juggalo who brought someone along who was not a juggalo I would treat them just as I would any other juggalo. They are in no way more or less to us everyone is just equal and if you have met so called juggalos that are like that don;t stereotype us all because we are not like that. But after all, the way
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Male 3,058
@ Juggalettex0: I never actually used the word trash.

I do admit that as this discussion has gone on, I have responded to personal attacks in kind, so I apologize to you for disrespecting your job last night. The fact that you have held a job in this economy indicates that you must have some value to your employer.

My trashing of your job was in direct response to you and faaaaq referring to me as a "rent-a-cop". I`m not some douchebag in a cheesy uniform and a tin badge chasing skaters out of a parking ramp. I`m the guy who escorts the artists to and from the venue, and stays with them at the venue while they are not on stage. I`ve been the first line of defense for some of the biggest artists in the world, and stood shoulder to shoulder with music legends.

For the record, I get what your saying about the aura of "family" that ICP fans seem to project on one another. My point is, your ICP "family" excludes anyone they consider an "outsider"

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Female 1,380
(cont`d)
living our lives the way that we want to. Of course we`re going to get defensive when you talk about us because you DON`T KNOW all of us so what you get on a normal day to day is not an accurate representation. Like I said, you can say ICP sucks all that you want but it`s when you insult the lifestyle and the way that we chose to live that pisses us (well me at least) off. I know that everyone likes different music but, we aren`t hurting you so I don`t understand why you feel the need to tell us that we`re trash and all that.
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Female 1,380
Are you guys saying that you have nothing in common with the people you hang out with? We`re just a group of people that cares about one another. Last time I checked, having people there for you and caring about them was not a bad thing. Just because you`ve been wronged by a "juggalo" in the past does not mean that real Juggalos are all like that....at all. How do you expect us to not get defensive when you`re all insulting us and our lifestyle calling us trash, racist, homophobes, etc. When poo happens to me and I need someone there or someone to talk to, I can always count on them, and I would be there for any of them in a heart beat as well. If someone pulls out a knife on you when they`re 13 like someone said, it`s not because they`re a juggalo, it`s bad parenting or something else. You can`t drating blame MUSIC for a crime thats just rediculious and trying to put the blame on something it`s not. We`re not the type to just sit back and listen while people are giving us po
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Male 3,058
@ NegativeOne: I`m actually in a pretty good mood most mornings... If you go back and read from the beginning of these comments, when faaaaq showed up, he immediately turned this into a personal attack against me.

You and I don`t always agree, but we`ve never flamed or insulted each other.

By the way... WHO YOU CALLIN` OLD?

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Male 527
Folks in the video seemed to be alright to me tho. Don`t know about this pop culture??!?!?
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Male 2,582
Chipper old guy in the mornings isn`t he?

I just got a chance to watch the video, (I have just been making fun of ICP fans without watching the video), After watching the video I see fans of this gimmick rap group are for lack of a better more creative word at this hour, "Dipfu*ks".
Bunch of Fisher Price tough guys...

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Male 3,058
I find it interesting that the vast majority of posts here fall into the Anti ICP/Juggalo/Juggalette category.

I find it more interesting that faaaaq seems to have some kind of fixation on concentrating his defense of their lifestyle on me.

@ faaaaq: Since your entry into this thread, you have done absolutely nothing except insult and attack me. You have accused me of being a racist (!), said: "im assuming you were molested by your father when you were a toddler, and your mother blamed YOU for it", "go blow your daddy and get a life, freakin rent-a-cop", "you obviously have very low self esteem (possible virgin? or, actually, the low self esteem fits my earlier assumption of childhood molestation)", and "you couldnt get a real job that allowed you to afford going to concerts"

It`s all there for anyone who wants to go back and see it. Get off your high horse. You were a dick from the moment you entered this thread.

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Male 246
You can`t call them `outcasts`, thats what they want. The correct terminology is idiots.

This is by far the lamest music related fan base, right below the Britney Spears fans.

Admittedly, some of the ICP songs I`ve heard are alright, but thats it. They have some OK songs, none really seem to have some significant life changing message, for the most part its just a bunch of kids that never want halloween to go away constantly singing about psychological disorders.

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Male 53
... I`m not sure I want to know but what the hell is a Juggalo?
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Female 3,598
wow.took me awhile to read all the comments. people sure are passionate about this. let me throw in my unbiased opinion. i am in no way shape or form a juggalette. i listen to all genres of music and have heard many if not all the artists from psychopathic. if you people really have a problem with it, don`t listen to it. but to catagorize all the people that would consider themselves "juggalos" well, that is just ignorant. of course they are going to be alike... that`s why they hang out so much. Is it so bad that they have alot of friends? or do most of you not really know what that is like? people that come from totally different backgrounds can come together and find common ground to talk about easily and that is a bad thing? people that say "juggalos did this to me" or "every one i`ve met is trash" blah blah blah... i had a friend that got mugged in Cincinnatti once, he never said "everyone in Cinci is a thief and a drug addict and i hate them all!
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Male 287
What a shower of inbred idiots - case in point, the imbicle at 3:48. The chick in the bikini at 38 is a passably cute though.
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Male 694
lol, indeed. and doesnt know how to CORRECTLY tune an inflatable guitar.
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Male 2,582
"thats Dr. Rockso :DD"
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and he does cocaine. seriously, like a lot.
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Male 694
mcl to you too, lette. lol, didnt see that till just now. gnight everybody
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Male 694
im sure i speak for every lo and lette out there in saying yes, we understand, and are glad you will admit that not every juggalo is the same. we are sorry you had to deal with that and glad your friend is ok. REAL juggalo "family" wouldnt let people do that... violence and drugs and being mean are NOT part of our lifestyle. ive never done any drugs, never even smoked a cigg, been drunk ONCE, i cant stand people being rude, and i hate hurting people and seeing people hurt unless they deserve it. and JUGGALETTExO also seems very respectable. talk to any average, REAL, juggalo outside of an environment as hostile as this, and youll see we are just like everyone else, we simply like ICP and the other Psychopathic Records artists, and find comfort in gathering to honor our shared beliefs.
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Female 118
Alrighty. Obviously not all juggalos/juggalettes are bad people, but holy butt nuggets the ones I`ve met are terrible. They`re completely true to the stereotype- suburban white kids who are racist homophobes that get pleasure from seeing people down. I was punched in the face by one kid because I was a "nuke burned nip". This same guy and some his other friends tormented one of my friends in every way they could- hacked into her grades, destroying her stuff, telling her to commit suicide, writing crap like "baby killer" and "psycho dyke" on her locker in sharpie... one of the girls in the group even started just beating the poo out of her in the middle of class... and things only got worse. It eventually led my friend to ODing (she`s alive) and having to be institutionalized. Of course not all Juggalos are like that- some of the kids I got on real well with during school were big ICP fans- but I hope you may understand why I have a bit of animosity torward
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Male 694
thats Dr. Rockso :DD
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Male 694
yo, neg, wtf is on his shirt? i mean the picture lol. and EWWWWWWWW, white castle....
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Male 909
Hmm.
I`m not into the whole Juggalo thing, but they seemed like pretty nice folk.
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Male 720
Juggalos love their cigarettes.
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Male 2,582
I clearly misinterpreted this sub-culture as a fetish lifestyle, my apologies. I love clowns, as a token of my begging your pardons may I present this picture for you to enjoy.
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Male 694
i try adding tone by capitalizing words id emphasize in really life...but that never turns out how it should, people always just think im yelling random words lol
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Male 3,482
GOD I hate the internet and the lack of ability to add tone of voice...
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Male 3,482
Then what did you mean?

From what you quoted then said, I read sarcasm that intended to be used as an insult to call Juggalos gay...

Maybe you could try rephrasing it?

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Male 694
nothing wrong with negative, he is beeing an ass with a joke, which is all good, nothing wrong with that. it was directed at me and other juggalos, but it still was funny lol
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Male 2,582
I`m offended! There is nothing wrong with their life choices.
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Male 3,482
Shut up, Negative. If all you`re going to do is insult, then you`re as bad as them.
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Male 2,582
"And that is, that Juggalo`s are NOT a class that any self-respecting, intelligent, sober man, woman, or child should associate themselves with."
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That`s a little harsh, gay people are just like you and me on the inside.
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Male 694
you dont know the majority. and the group that goes to the gathering cannot be considered an accurate sample. EVERY juggalo poser is going to go to the gathering to try to get accepted into the family. (btw, im done with osiris. altaru is also being an ass, we all are, but at least he drating listens to what i say). this video, or any personal accounts you may have with the few juggalos youve met cannot account for the group as a whole. its just the same as generalizing all mormans using the ones that go door to door. (religion is a more accurate comparison than race, but i still stand by racial issues being very similar) the "hardcore" ones are almost always posers. take me and my friends for instance. we are REAL juggalos. i dont carry an axe around, i dont hate gays, i dont think if you hate ICP you are dumb, im not undereducated, or fat or toothless, etc. if you READ and PAY ATTENTION to the things i say, it all makes sense. im not arguing based on opinion, like
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Male 3,482
Alright, I`ll admit, that was a little immature.

But that`s the biggest reason I dislike the internet. In reality, I`ve never even HAD to fight. And I never post pictures of myself online, since I know the problems that can cause if you piss off the wrong person.

So, even though I know I shouldn`t, I get a little defensive when idiots start talking like that. Because I know, if they started that crap in real life, they`d back off if they saw me. But they can`t, so I`m easily provoked into those stupid pissing contests...

I apologize. I was in error.

However, this post detracts from the point of the argument. And that is, that Juggalo`s are NOT a class that any self-respecting, intelligent, sober man, woman, or child should associate themselves with.

If nothing else, the few GOOD one`s of the group should form their own group. And note, that not ONCE in my posts, have I stated that ALL of you are bad people. Just the majority.

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Female 50
it feels kinda pointless to even comment on the video since everyone`s just arguing..
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Male 694
it seems your habit of assuming far too much is much worse than i had thought... i never said being calm and having well grammar were bad...what i said was that you are simply posting insult after insult (just as you accused me of). the only difference between you claim upon me, and you, is that you try to seem like the better person by hiding your insults and stuff under the calm, and under the grammar. seems the military has lowered their standards quite a bit. i kinda knew that already, but whatever
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Male 3,058
"you are no better than you accuse me of being, you just try to hide it underneath proper grammar and a seemingly calm tone"

You CAN`T be serious with that statement.

Good grammar and a calm tone are BAD or a liability in some way?

I`m sorry faaaaq, but THAT was the single most nonsensical thing you have contributed to the discussion thus far.

I`m going to bed now, and I`m laughing at you as I go... I`m going to e-mail a link to this thread to some of my friends tomorrow so they too can enjoy the humor in the last few entries from you and Juggalettex0.

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Male 15,832
Did anyone else notice that these people all seem to be low-IQ types? That doesn`t make them bad people, but there does seem to be a common thread here.
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Male 694
osiris...you are no better than you accuse me of being, you just try to hide it underneath proper grammar and a seemingly calm tone. i never claimed you did anything racist, other than to imply blacks cant be racist, whether you did it on purpose or not matters not to me. and, when did i say i didnt care what you think? and altaru...dont do that. none of us are being mature, but even osiris need to admit you are being WAY too immature (but so was the person altaru commented on). dont be e-thugs...please...flame wars are bad enough...
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@ Juggalettex0: Yes, you are SO right... just any idiot off the street can get hired by a venue logistics company and immediately get senior employees access.

My college education, and 20 years of experience in the military and Federal Law Enforcement had NOTHING to do with it.

You`re a HEAD cashier huh? Gonna get that big promotion to Assistant Store Manager soon huh?

Haven`t worked in fast food in three whole years to boot?

Well, I am DULY impressed. Your job history is SO much better than mine, that I think I`ll just give up on life now...

It SO sucks to be me... collecting an Army pension, AND getting paid $60K a year TO GO TO CONCERTS.

You sure showed me, didn`t you?

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Male 3,482
"we all know if it came down to it these " juggalo holocaust " faggots won`t do anything to us if they saw us in person. i`d straight drating kill one of them and show no remorse i wouldn`t even shed a single drating tear for the waste of life that i took away."

Not helping the cause, bud.

Not to mention... Yeah, I`m sure you`d "straight drating kill" me. Right after you`re done with your meth. `Cause I can say with very little doubt that only in your drug induced dreams could you possibly take me.

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by the way...i hope you don`t think i`m getting all bitchy and pissy because you`re insulting the music we listen to. I could drating care less if people insult ICP everyone has different tastes in music. It`s the fact that you`re insulting the lifestyle...the way we choose to live our lives that`s drating pissing me off.
and with that I`m going to bed goodnight....MCL faaaaq and britt <3
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Male 3,058
@ faaaaq: I challenge you to show me WHERE I have made a single racist comment ANYWHERE on IAB.

You can`t.

So what you`ll do instead is keep desperately grabbing at every straw you can like a drowning man, because you STILL haven`t made a single valid, or even coherent point.

The longer this goes on, the more you prove false the claim that "Juggalos/Juggaettes don`t give a fu*k what anyone thinks."

You DO care what other people think, otherwise you wouldn`t be here in this thread escalating a flamewar!

By the way, it`s not a hatchet your little ICP mascot is holding.

It`s a cleaver.

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Female 1,380
I`m actually a head cashier and will very very soon be an asm...I have not worked in fast food in over 3 years. I had to WORK for my position instead of just becoming a `security guard` for a concert venue...rent a cops are a thing of the past...lol
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Male 3,482
"and i didnt generalize anyone, i DESCRIBED emos and goths."

Again, the cause is lost.

In fact, I think the only way to truly describe how desperate and stupid you sound right now, is through the use of a few Demotivational posters.

Just because you`re seriously demotivating me.

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@ Juggalettex0: Of course black people are capable of being racist! I happen NOT to be. Racists come in every color, gender, and sexual orientation. I can say that as an African-American man, I have a far better understanding of how deep racial divides run in this country than YOU do.

Your attempts to spin my words into something they are not are laughable, especially since it`s all there in this thread for anyone to see.

As for my free time, I was just discharged from the Army ELEVEN DAYS AGO. I`m sitting at home, enjoying myself, and next week I fly to New York to work the last two shows of the Molson Canal Concert Series... Yeah... next Friday, I get to meet Charlie Daniels... and get PAID for it.

Seems that MY job is much better than YOURS. I`m guessing that you`re either in fast food (you appear to be a Type-1), or you work in some call center.

We can have this argument for as long as you like, you still come off like an idiot.

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Male 2,582
I don`t know anything about them so I researched some of their lyrics..
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"Max with the homies spitten on the hoes
Stop in the store for a cold 4-0

Grabbin on your balls, straight slanging stalls
Fu*k the gang squad tryin to take me out my home
Check my neck and I got yours
Cuz roll with yourself and keep that clown luv"
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So, their a gay group, right?

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Male 3,058
@ faaaaq: You`ve been nothing but petulant and confrontational since you entered this thread.

You`ve contributed little of consequence, and done nothing but attack. Every comment you`ve left here has done nothing for your "cause". You intentionally ignore facts with rather pathetic attempts to bait me into trading insults, since that`s all you have.

I was just honorably discharged from the Army. In the civilian world, I am a security consultant. The company I work for just happens to provide backstage security for concert tours. Not only is it a REAL job, it`s a fu*king COOL job that most people would love to have.

Everything I said makes perfect sense to someone who isn`t part of the ICP "family".

I don`t expect you or any of the other Sheepalos to even begin to understand the stone cold logic in what I`ve said in this thread, because you`re too busy trying to defend an exclusionist, misogynst group.

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Female 1,380
wait osiris...so black people can`t be racist?
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Female 41
I guess I could have phrased that last sentence better. But I like to pretend that people arn`t as ignorant as some seem to be.
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Male 694
you are proving to be a racist lol. so, just because you are black means you cant be racist?
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Male 3,058
Why would I say bad things about black people?

In case you didn`t notice from my photo, I happen to BE a black person. That;s why I ignored your comment earlier about my being a racist.

I see however, that you are obviously going to continue with your personal attacks.

My childhood was no more traumatic than any kid who grew up in the suburbs.

Keep reaching though... you`re an entertaining little troll.

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Male 694
next thing you know, osiris is going to pop up saying "but juggalos kill people." so do gays, emos, blacks, whites, jew, etc. i understand what you are saying, nerd, and thank you for it. im not trying to get everyone to accept ICP, i just want them to understand that the things they say are false and hurtful, just the same as if i were to rag on jews, or christians, or blacks.
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Male 2
sorry for the miss spells it`s dark and i can`t see the keyboard enough to care.
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Male 2
okay i hate people that go on the internet and try to stereo type juggalos. they just can`t stand us being happy, so they have to get on the computer and come hate. it`s cause of people like them that i can`t wait for 2012 and see them scream in pain when satan take`s over the earth. it`s gonna be a great site to see. we all know if it came down to it these `` juggalo holocaust `` faggots won`t do anything to us if they saw us in person. i`d straight drating kill one of them and show no remorse i wouldn`t even shed a single drating tear for the waste of life that i took away. drat you guy`s stop hating us just cause we are happy and found people that we can go to for out problems. your just mad you don`t have the same. get a drating life... go out and get some pussy maybe even a job. something to keep you from staying on the internet 24/7 to hate juggalos. you guy`s are wastes of life and god should have never even put you on this earth. drat you haters get a drating life
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Female 41
Personally, I think all the make up is pretty creepy, and most of the songs are crazy, but honestly where is it anyones place to judge people for the music they listen to, the clothes they wear, or the way they live there lives? As long as they don`t kill anyone, it could really bother me less.
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Female 1,380
lol well when they`re talking poo about us im sure they would be very quick to catch it lol
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Male 694
lol lette, i didnt even catch your mistake till you corrected it lol
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Male 694
everything you said makes no sense... and i didnt generalize anyone, i DESCRIBED emos and goths. i dont do any drugs, never have never will. i dont need to look smart on the internet, your thoughts on my intelligence mean nothing to me. THREE people you know claiming its hard to be racist in the military means thats a fact? how would they know, are THEY racist? and why do those three represent the whole military? and, im not losing any "battle"... im simply in a heated discussion with a bunch of elitist retards, thats all. i have no concern with winning or losing. i suppose, if all you ICP haters would accept the fact that not all (or even the majority) of juggalos are anything like you described, i suppose that would be a "win"
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Female 1,380
xtkm1x I can see where you`re coming from. You have been wronged by a juggalo in the past so naturally you`re going to generalize, but, we aren`t all like that. If you took time to actually get to know a few then you would probally realize that for the most part, we`re pretty cool, chill, quite accepting people.
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Male 2,582
My Grandmother is a HUGE ICP fan. It gets a little weird when she wears the makeup though, but I guess its less weird than her Evergreen Terrace phase...
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Female 1,380
get your head out of your asses* my bad lol
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Male 432
Well I`ve never met a good juggalo. I`ve seen all of them. They all live like 3 streets over from me and act like they own everything.

I`ve had knives pulled on me by juggalo THIRTEEN YEAR OLDS. Someone should really parent them other than your clown overlords.

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Female 1,380
so if what you guys are saying is correct
-every single juggalo wears the exact same clothes
-we listen to the exact same music and never listen to anything but psychopathic
-we`re all racist
-none of us have jobs
-we are all uneducated and have no jobs
-we run around with hatchets trying to kill people....
-we`re no different than a gang
based on what people in here have said...
have you met every single juggalo?
I highly doubt that
so get your drating asses out of your head....
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Male 3,482
"hypocrate"

Finger spasms. A sign of having taken stimulants... Or typos across the keyboard, signs of stupidity or quickness to type the message. Quickness to type the message, a sign of being desperate, seeing as you know you`re losing the battle.

Also, learn some grammar. It makes you look like you`re actually the intelligent person you claim to be, and helps people to understand the message.

Also, if you CAN`T see the hypocrisy in claiming that someone generalizing you is wrong, then generalizing someone else, then the cause is lost completely.

On the topic of soldiers being racist... It`s very difficult, from what I`ve heard of my three ex-marine friends, seeing as how everyone is pretty much forced to work as a team, regardless of race, creed, whatever.

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Male 694
of course, because i TOTALLY trust 14 year old whores... (btw, im not going to be nice anymore. you all are so closed minded you are EXTREMELY frustrating. now its time to flame. mods please give me a warning if i do something against the rules, and i will take the war elsewhere)
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Male 432
Fifteen year old virgin troll. Ask my girlfriend if I`m a virgin. Ask birth records if I`m 15.

Call me what you want, I`ll just call you a juggalo. And that`s the lowest of the low in my book. A flat out insult in the worst way.

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Male 694
by "OR soldiers" i mean racists also cant be soldiers?
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Female 1,380
well xtkm1x the ones who would call someone a poser just because they are of a different race or a different orientation and a juggalo, they`re the poser. You can be any race, orientation ANYTHING to be a juggalo. We don`t discriminate. The ones who do are the ones giving a bad name.
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Male 694
so altaru, black people cant be racist? OR soldiers? hm. im glad you taught me that valuable life lesson. and please, better explain how i lost, because i strongly disagree lol. and how am i a hypocrate?
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Male 3,482
faaaaq

"you yourself are tryin to make us into one big generality."

"yea, people who HAVE TO dress the same and act the same to be in the "group""

Yeah, Intelligent person, for a hypocrite. You just lost the flame war.

Also, where in the hell do you get the idea that childhood molestation would make someone "afraid of non-conformists?" And on that note, you`re calling racism on a black ex-soldier...

Face it, the music sucks, the majority of the "family" are in-bred, or act like it, and you`re just pissy because, while you know it`s true, accepting the fact that it`s true would destroy the happy life of blissful ignorance you`ve led up `til now.

By the way, one of these moronic gatherings occurred while I was on vacation with some family in the area. Has anyone happened to mention that, when these come to a town, local crime rates sky-rocket and hospitals tend to over-crowd?

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Male 694
why? you are a troll, and thats all. ill argue with osiris still, but only because it needs to be finished. in not going to start a flame war with a 15 year old virgin troll. sorry to disappoint.
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Female 1,380
actually xtkm1x I know plenty of black, hispanic, and homosexual juggalos and they are some of the coolest people I know
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Male 432
No, please do.
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Male 694
omg xtk...im not even going to argue with you lol, its just too easy...
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Male 432
I`m with Osiris!! Juggalos SUCK.

Juggalos are not a race like black or white. They are a bunch of white trash losers that listen to a group of clowns rap about smoking weed and having sex with everything.

DUMBEST THING I HAVE EVER HEARD: Juggalos against racism? FALSEFALSEFALSE! I know juggalos that only pick on black people. I hate all juggalos. Every single one of them. No need to generalize or not generalize. They are all the same.

Also, when they say `family` they mean, `we fight in groups.` every one of them runs by themselves. or at least the ones i`ve ran into.

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Male 321
i know im gonna get bitched out for this but, i cant stand juggalos or icp there annoying as hell!
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Female 1,380
wow...they actually think we really go around killing people with hatchets...grow the drat up
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Male 694
oh yeah, finally, captainkat, they are only SONGS. and btw, Crooked Preacher Killer is about killing child molester preachers... try to defend middle aged men who rape and molest little kids. im sure god was right by them, egging them on... child molesters need to die. if i met one, id jump him on sight
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Female 1,380
I wish I didn`t have a job so I could just come on here and see what osiris says every 20 minutes but since I have to work and can`t just sit in front of my computer I can`t. So osiris you never did tell me what is wrong with caring about and supporting and being there for one another. Sure, ICP`s music may have started it and gotten us all connected to one another but the music really is a small part about being a juggalo.
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Male 694
AY a hypocrite...
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Male 694
in regards to your most recent comment, WTF are you retarded? not accepting outsiders doesnt make a group that promotes FAMILY and JUGGALO LOVE hypocrites...it makes them exactly what they claim to be.. you yourself are tryin to make us into one big generality. you say ICP bashes gays, but when a lo or lette says they accept everyone, you bitch? YOU arent letting us be individuals. and how can ANY of you say we are all undereducated? the one dude is a drating software developer...and im going into sound and video production, home/car entertainment and fabrication, autobody work, etc...
and finally, LMAO for saying goths and emos are better and more diverse lol... yea, people who HAVE TO dress the same and act the same to be in the "group" are MUCH more diverse than a random collection of people who consider themselves Juggalos, simply because of a similar love for the music of Psychopathic Records.

yes. you are INDEED the most intelligent of all of us, and in NO W

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Male 694
sorry for the late reply, osiris. i however have a life and cannot waste the time to check back here constantly. and yes, of course you struck a nerve. if you came on here badmouthing black people, black people would get mad, even if the specific things you said didnt apply to them. you GENERALIZED us. THAT is what pissed me off. you obviously have very low self esteem (possible virgin? or, actually, the low self esteem fits my earlier assumption of childhood molestation) because you repeatedly tried to rub it in my face that you couldnt get a real job that allowed you to afford going to concerts. but whatever, it kinda creeps me out knowing that i am contributing to a perverted old racist man`s erection... so, im going to read thru your other posts now, to see any other things about your obviously traumatic childhood that you see obviously demonstrate.
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ICP?
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@ britt566: Actually, what I hate are hypocrites. Juggalos and Juggalettes are hypocrites of the highest order. All of your BS talk about "love" and "family", and you threaten violence against anyone you consider an "outsider".

You claim to accept everyone, but glorify gay-bashing.

Juggalos and Juggalettes crow about their "individuality" when it`s obvious to anyone on the "outside" that you`re just sheep.

You claim to "not give a fu*k what anyone thinks", but here you are giving a fu*k about what I think.

To top it off, the truth of everything I`ve posted in this thread is so difficult for you to accept, that you can`t take it, yet have no intelligent rebuttal to anything I, and many others have posted here.

YOU are the one who said in an earlier post that "We don`t understand this sh*t"

We understand it better than you, and YOU can`t accept that reality.


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Female 2,289
Hey osirisascend!!!

You hate juggalos! You hate juggalettes!

Your point has been made!!

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Female 152
"Sounds fun to me: drink, drugs, hot goth girls and possible chance of a brawl."

HOT GOTH GIRLS?? lmao where in that video did you see a chick that even looked remotely average looking, they all look like cheap redneck trash with bad teeth. But if thats the type of girl your into...lol

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Male 3,482
All I have to say is, ICP`s music sucks, and all but two or three of their fans that I`ve ever known have shown at least some form of mental defect.
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Male 91
"I hate those drating ICP fagots, just a bunch of undereducated rednecks."

It`s funny that you call someone a fagot, and then claim they`re undereducated. If you can`t express your own opinion without the use of any insult, then you really needn`t bother talking in the first place.

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Female 1,148
ICP=worst band on the face of the planet.

no questions about it.

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Male 1,685
"Where my IABalos at? "

...lol, I`m in.

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Male 11
ICP was cool when i was in grade 8, that was ten years ago...
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Male 1,718
Sounds fun to me: drink, drugs, hot goth girls and possible chance of a brawl.
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Male 88
And to the people who say juggalos are nice... That may or may not be true, but doesn`t make them look any less ignorant.
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Male 88
Oh, forgot.... 1 star rating from me.
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Male 88
Who`s the biggest f*#ing idiot contest. That how I see it. I guarantee not one of those people that are in the video have the potential to ever say anything wise or insightful. So I`m not really concerned. Quit watching after I heard something about chopping up mice food? lol wtf?
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Male 1,666
Osi, for the most part I agree with you, but ICP`s music really is pretty damn funny most of the time.
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Male 510
oh, and no offense to people who dress/are goth. i have no quarrel with you.
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Male 510
as an icp fan who ISNT a juggalo, i find it hilarious when they blame why people hate them on stupid poo. that one guy said it was because they go to the gathering? no, its because you`re breaking parole for beating up a cop, smoking ALL the time, carrying around a fake gun (5:27), and dressing goth. oh, and pregnant lady smoking and drinking at 6:15 ftw.
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Male 3,058
I almost forgot to mention the Type-1 Juggalette in the video who`s six months pregnant and smoking.

Yeah, real intelligent bunch of people these ICP fans.

An entire subculture that will thrust upon our society a generation of babies suffering from Low Birth Weight from smoking during pregnancy, Fetal Alcohol Syndrome if their volume of alcohol consumption is any indication, and Lord knows what other complications because some of them appear to be too stupid to stop partying while they`re pregnant.

I look forward to supporting these future burdens on our already overloaded health care system with my tax dollars.

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Female 152
their music sucks and im not afraid to say that to all of them I`m not scared just because their in a gang they cant fight for themselves
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Male 143
Juggalos are RETARDED.....dratING RETARDED!
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Female 149
.....I just don`t get it?
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Male 150
Where a bunch of fagots with psychological problems get together.
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Male 2
I hate those drating ICP fagots, just a bunch of undereducated rednecks.
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Male 101
Hey the Jugs and Lettes just want to have fun, kinda like hippies but Jugs and Lettes will beat the poo out of you for hatin. So don`t be a hater.
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Female 46
My cousin is a juggalo, he got me into ICP. And I agree with Twiztidkitty.
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Female 15
My school is filled with juggalos and juggalettes.
They have a little tree where they hangout also.
Ha.
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Male 3,915
ugh....why did i watch it all the way through?

i guess i expected it to get interesting...i was very mistaken...not worth me and my dad almost arguing about me getting bothered about him looking over my shoulder and asking me what i was watching....thank I am bored....

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Male 928
ICP has always been and always will be a ridiculous band of wanna-bs. It isn`t music and it`s not entertaining in any other form which makes me wonder what the point is other than to look and act like retards...
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Female 56
I went to the Gathering, and I had a blast! As far as people saying Juggalos are a bunch of as*holes, it probably appears that way. Really, if you don`t just start hating on them, and just agree to disagree, Juggalos can be some really great people! They only start being dicks when people start being dicks to them...be it a comment or a stupid look. Juggalos mostly give any one "outside" the family the same respect or disrespect that they are given.
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Male 382
An interesting sub-culture to say the least.
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Male 9
Alright, I`ll throw in on this conversation. I know a few Juggalos myself. To be honest, the ones I associate with aren`t that bad. They are pretty open minded, and treat me the same as their "family". (I am not a Juggalo).

The way Juggalos have their family put together is no different than a gang. They thrive on violence, and want everyone to be exactly like them.

Personally, I hate rap. I despise ICP because they have no message that needs to be delivered. I don`t wanna hear about some fat-ass clowns murdering people for "fun".

To wrap it up, the whole "Juggalo" movement is going in the wrong direction. They`re all blindly following ICP. I have never, am not now, and will never be a "Juggalo".

P.s. Was at a party few nights ago. They played ICP, I stood up, turned it off and yelled "F*ck Juggalos". A bunch of them stood up. I said it again, and again, and again. Eventually they just sat down, and I went back to drinkin.

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Male 3,058
@ delayna 6: Since you`re so self-righteous, you`re in my cross-hairs now.

You said: "Seriously people, juggalos and juggalettes don`t do poo to you. WE don`t force you to listen to OUR music. And WE sure as hell didn`t force you to watch this video.
If you have that much of a problem with US, just stay away and keep your ignorant comments to yourself."

Lots of "love" in THAT statement delayna 6.

Further proof that Juggalos/Juggalettes are an exclusionist group.

Deny it. If you can.

Although you won`t, since I just threw that BS you spouted right back in your face.

MMFIABL
(Much Motherfu*kin` IAB Love!)

Where my IABalos at? ;-)

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Female 159
"Once you meet a juggalo, you`ll probally realize that most of us are some of the nicest most accepting people around. We don`t give a drat what someone looks like or where they came from we love one another for who they are inside."

If you are so nice and loving why do you chant about killing people with a hatchet... not to mention the song "crooked preacher killer" and all the other songs off of ICP`s hells pit.

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Male 3,058
@ delayna 6: "Fancy should have never put this video out. Too many close minded people arguing over how people live their lives."

Why shouldn`t Fancy have posted this? Are "Juggalos" and "Juggalettes" exempt from the same scrutiny that every other group is subject to here?

You`re a hypocrite. You refer to a large group of people as "closed minded" because they don`t subscribe to YOUR beliefs?

I don`t see you complaining when some other group (Emos for example) is getting bashed here, so you invalidate your own statement.

Thanks for playing.

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Female 1,427
ICP`s a damned cult.

I like how they`re against racism but they`re all white.

They`re certainly not against gay-bashing, which has always pissed me off.

It`s like if you took hippies and wiggers and combined them together. They all form this one big gang that they refer to as a "family." They speak ill of anyone outside of it. They hate and hate and hate, but love each other. They`re ready to beat down whoever`s an outsider but they`re giving hugs to fellow "members."

They`re also the reason I can`t get a jester symbol tattooed on me without someone asking if I like the band, when the symbol of a jester means so much more to me than some dumb-F**k band.

Juggalos/juggalettes are simply a**holes who daddy didn`t love enough.

In conclusion, they`re drating hypocrites.

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Male 108
Ah, just people having fun, whatever. No neck-snappers in the video though.
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Female 778
i almost went to this. now i`m feeling really happy that i did not. oh my. >_<
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Male 266
I thought ICP`s popularity died out about 12 years ago, ugh
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Male 3,058
For those that don`t know, "MMFWCL" means "Much MotherFu*kin` Wicked Clown Love"

It speaks volumes that the ICP drones among us are resorting to name-calling and insults, then ending their post with "MMFWCL".

If the behavior of the ICP drones in this thread is indicative of "Wicked Clown Love", then I don`t think they have to worry about any of us "outsiders" wanting to become members of their "family"

I`ll stick with my punk, metal, hippie, indie, old-school rawk, and goth peeps, thank you very much.

At least they show TRUE diversity, instead of claiming to be different, yet looking all the same.

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Female 14
Fancy should have never put this video out.

Too many close minded people arguing over how people live their lives.

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Female 14
Seriously people, juggalos and juggalettes don`t do poo to you. We don`t force you to listen to out music. And we sure as hell didn`t force you to watch this video.
If you have that much of a problem with us, just stay away and keep your ignorant comments to yourself.

MMFWCL.

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Male 13
Wow, a gathering of white trash druggie wiggers!
Do they realize they are all about some corny white rappers who dress like clowns? Do they know how inconsequential they are?
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Male 3,058
5. Claim that "haters" have only heard one or two songs. However, having listened to their first four albums in their entirety, I can safely say that one song is pretty much indicative of the rest.

6. Consist of a 9-1 ratio of angry, violent, desperate for attention kids suckered by a lowest common denominator gimmick to adults with immature and violent taste who also buy into said gimmick. All believe that the title they give themselves (and subsequent ICP love)is enough to consider a complete stranger "family".

7. Ignorant to the blatant hypocrisy of using a popular label to claim individuality.

8. Think that insanity is even remotely cool, while displaying an absolute lack of actual knowledge on the horror of mental illness that shows just how immature and ignorant they are.

9. There`s at least one known murderer among them and many still praise him for attacking gays with a hatchet and killing a cop and his own girlfriend before being gunned down.

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Male 3,058
Juggalo/Juggalette by definition:

1. A self applied label used by a large group of people with similar interests...used to describe their individuality, while fanboying over Insane Clown Posse. (Yes. It is about ICP because ICP invented the term and ICP fans are the only ones who fu*king use it.) You think Rammstein fans call themselves the "The Kiss Army"?

2. Claim to "not give a fu*k what anyone thinks" but are most often seen online telling "haters" to "shut the fu*k up and die".

3. Find the imagery of hatchet murders, rape, cannibalism, misogyny and necrophilia to be acceptable and enjoyable but, racism is a no-no.

4. More often than not, prejudge just as many people, if not more, than those they hate.

-continued-

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Female 160
scottk6
"... and the nation`s carnival rides stood still and unattended."

Bwahaha!!

I can`t believe these folk still exist. Guess I`m out of the loop. Can`t say I`m too disappointed about that.

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Female 1,380
So...a huge family coming together once a year to meet everyone is a bad thing? Once you meet a juggalo, you`ll probally realize that most of us are some of the nicest most accepting people around. We don`t give a drat what someone looks like or where they came from we love one another for who they are inside. We have such a strong bond. The last time I checked, a bunch of people loving and caring for eachother wasn`t a bad thing. There may be juggalos who give us a bad rep but not all of us are like that. Saying you want to kill a bunch of people for being who they want to be is pretty rediculious and immature. Being a juggalo has very very little to do with the music. It`s more about the family and the connection we all have with eachother. I really don`t understand how we affect any of you guys at all. We aren`t hurting you so I don`t understand why you can`t just let us do what we do...MMFWCL <3
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Male 36
... and the nation`s carnival rides stood still and unattended.
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Male 3,058
@ faaaaq: Let`s not turn this into a flamewar even though your just came roaring in here like a complete douchebag.

I`m not wrong. Your baseless personal attack on me indicates that perhaps I`ve struck a nerve, in that you seem to be AWFULLY defensive for no reason.

Referring to me as "Rent-A-Cop" is rather humorous. From that, I`d guess that you`re one of those kids that likes to run their mouth at show security for no apparent reason.

I work concert security because it`s FUN. I go to pretty much any show I want for FREE, and get the added perks of backstage access AND I get to meet the artists... and get PAID FOR IT!

Call me all the names you want. I have music industry access you can only dream of. Jealous much?

For the record, Violent J and Shaggy2Dope make complete ASSES of themselves every time they are interviewed.

Next time you`re at a show, think of ME backstage, chillin` with the band.

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Male 694
osiris, you are 100% wrong lol. im a juggalo. im 5 foot 10 inches tall, graduated highschool, going to college soon, i weigh 150pounds. all my juggalo friends are also either skinny or of average weight (except my cousin...hes dratin HUGE lol). going by your age group, im assuming you were molested by your father when you were a toddler, and your mother blamed YOU for it, so now you are afraid on non-conformity. also, you are probably racist. im not having on racist, or people who were molested by their fathers, or old people, but people like you piss me off. you are generalizing to a HUGE degree. this video was propaganda, showing only "hardcore" juggalos (hardcore is in quotes because those juggalos are NOT my family, they a no-life posers who follow a crowd made generally of outcasts, in hopes that they will be accepted into the group). you are doing the same thing to us juggalos that racists do to minorities. so go blow your daddy and get a life, freakin rent-a-
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Male 5,314
what was that poo
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Male 418
Osirisascend, I do not think you could have hit the nail on the head any better. 10/10
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Female 159
dress up as a juggalo for halloween, and when people ask you what you are say you`re a douche.
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Female 159
ahahahahahha i tried to talk my boyfriend, brother, and sister in law into going to this. we were going to nuke it. the only un-hated people there were gwar, and we would get them out of there before we nuked it. then we planned on poisoning all of the black and white clown makeup and faygo in the world.

i think we would have been wrote down as the most amazing people in history.

screwwww juggalos.

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Male 13
Very few things are as sad as this large collection of high-school drop-outs, coming together to put on make up and consume rediculous amounts of alcohol.
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Male 1,375
damnit why`d the last guy have to throw up the 2 up 2 down for VA now I`m ashamed to call this place home
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Male 3,255
One of the worst social groups in existence. Such blatant, mindless ignorance. Every time I see a car with that stupid drating hatchet man (the little red guy carrying a CLEAVER NOT A HATCHET) I just facepalm so hard. It`s just a flag that says; "I have no intelligence what-so-ever, I have absolutely no mind of my own, I will blindly follow anyone like an ignorant sheep if it makes me feel like I fit in because I am too stupid to make it on my own."
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Female 2,289
People just don`t understand what this sh*t really truly means...
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Female 2,289
Attention:

MMFWCL!!

That will be all.

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Female 195
didn`t watch the whole thing, but the guy in the Red Twizted shirt def. looks like a real creeper...as well as mr. meth teeth who claims he doesn`t do drugs.lol
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Male 2,172
It`s crazy what peer pressure can make douchebags do. You should try it someday.
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Male 3,058
I worked security at this once. ONLY once.

This video proves my theory that Juggalos fall into two basic types:

1) Skinny white guys with cheesy facial hair who think they`re hard.
2) Fat white guys with cheesy facial hair who think they`re hard.

It also proves my theory that 100% of Juggalettes fall into two basic types as well:

1) Trailer trash that weighs over 200 lbs.
2) Trailer trash that weighs far less than 200 lbs., but that`s just from the meth. Type-2`s are generally incredibly ugly as well.

3 of us were carrying a Type-1 Juggalette to the first aid station because she had passed out, fallen, and split her head open. We were followed the entire way by a group of Type-1 and Type-2 Juggalos screaming "FU*K SECURITY!" at us.

We were taking one of their own to safety since they were just letting her lay there and bleed. It was MUCH more "Juggalo" to follow us screaming "FU*K SECURITY" after WE picked her up.

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Male 1,685
*sigh* I am sad now.
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Male 15
was that meant to be entertaining in any way?
why was that posted on here?
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Male 144
Nuke it from orbit...it`s the only way to be sure.
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Female 535
look at the fabulous freaks. they`re beautiful.
i feel like i`d get a contact high just walking past that place.
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Female 117
Oh I wish I was there...
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Male 357
Doesn`t really look that bad. What`s worse, hanging out with these guys or going clubbing every night like all the rest of the trendy kids do? It all comes down to a bunch of idiots who are trying to get drunk and laid.
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Male 360
Well I like the music, the people seem a bit freaky though...
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Male 1,108
No this will freak your mind.
We don`t like spam.
permaban imminent.
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Female 54
Meh
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Female 1,780
Link: The ICP-Juggalo Gathering 2009 [Video] [Rate Link] - Slightly longer than most videos on I-A-B, but you gotta give it a chance. You will not believe how ICP fans party.
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