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but anyway, i think its great.
They take a college course, get a degree, play local politican, then run for president.
When things aren`t running right in society, it`s time to start from scratch. Screw everything and start over. 0 balance 0 everything. Make it once again for the people and by the people, not for the business and by the business.
And as people said about Former President Bush. I didn`t vote for obama, so don`t blame me.
At least you have enough sense to stay away from the knee-jerk criticism that this poster is somehow racist (which clearly, it is not).
Your summation of world events to try and make a "Bush=Hitler" comparison even laughably legitimate shows me that you`ve never even read a book on world history.
Fortunately, most people get the poster (if you don`t), whether they agree with it or not. It has nothing to do with equating a socialist to a comic book character, or a movie character. :-?
... maybe we could just shoot anyone who dissagrees? oh boy that would be sweet! sort of like Hitler... maybe i should just drop it xD
Oh wait your serious, that`s even funnier
Obama may be centre left, just like Tony (scum-bag) Blair was but he is in no way a socialist.
Also stop bitching about his healthcare reforms, Britain`s NHS may not be perfect but at lest we don`t need to worry about how much a life saving operation is going to cost.
Not to mention that after 911 for nearly a year we had NO economy. The slump was predicted because Clinton was the moron that allowed anyone to get a home loan, and when anyone got a home loan people lost homes. Somehow though, in your mind, Bush was supposed to provide jobs and economic security for people who couldn`t get a home loan, yet did thanks to Clinton.
Why bring up the past when you know it is idiotic?
If you put a picture of the Joker on the cover of something, then put "Socialist" underneath, it seems like you`re suggesting one is the other.
It is also pretty telling of your mindset if your impression of what a Socialist looks like is a Comic book villain.
Furthermore, I don`t think the Hitler comparisons were because of his political stance. You cause the death of thousands of people and respond with an "oops", you get a Hitler comparison. There is at least a connect with the real world there.
You... plan economic reforms... and get a Batman villain... with a socialist stamp on the bottom. There is no connection between the 3. There is a complete disconnect from what you think the world is, and how it really is.
It`s as meaningful as a Limbaugh poster with bunny ears and the word asparagus tagged on the bottom, with a bunch of people who go "Lol, exactly" because it happens to be someone they dislike.
I`m simply stating that modern republican policy has demonstratably failed over the last 60 years. I`m merely stating that Republicans have had 8 years of patience for an imbecile, and 8 month of impatience for an adequate (adequate was the adjective I used, not amazing) President.
But hey, with a bunch of lies, you made you point well. Care to try it again with some truth instead?
Baalthazaq...you`re sooo mad...lol
"The joker wasn`t a socialist! He was an *anarchist* (links provided)."
Looking back on the previous 8 years of American politics, you could (clearly) argue that Bush wasn`t a member of the Nazi party, but that didn`t stop all of the Bush-Hitler posters from flying around.
Looking back at many of the "Kill Bush" posters, I would have to say that this poster is pretty benign in comparison.
I think the idea here is that the protester considers Obama a joker (i.e. a clown) and feels that his policies are socialist. This encourages debate.
Crying "racist" (noose) is just a desperate and cynical response, and needs no response.
The government are a bunch of greedy, risky, self-serving individuals who sent the economy spiraling into what it is now.
it is not about taxes it is about lying. you have people like you saying that this group of politicians are outstanding, fantastic, truthful, wonderful people because they have a (D) in front of their name but the ones with an (R) are just horrible, racist, sexist, homophobes because of that (R). guess what ITS ALL OF THEM!!! Rs/Ds.. it does not matter. i dont know when we began trusting them before ourselves, our neighbors, or our families. the media makes people out as right wing nuts when the question their representatives, but they are not, they are exercising their constitutional rights in a peaceful manner, they are not extremist just concerned Americans.
Complaining about taxes at this stage is like complaining about all the water the firemen are "wasting" in putting out the fire.
Yes it sucks that fixing your hundreds of trillions of dollar economy costs money, but it does.
Just some examples of how much the skew is in favour of Obama here:
People made unemployed in the last 8 Months of Bush: 4 Million.People made unemployed in the first 8 Months of Obama: 1.3 Million.
Lets take this even further:
For "I won`t go into the history" dude. How`s 60 years of Republicans driving up unemployment and Democrats pulling it down?
Modern Republican policies simply haven`t worked.
second: i know we need health care reform but here is the thing, the government is full of idiots, both sides. here is the way i see it. you have the left that want to control every aspect of your life (look at their health care and tell me that aint control) and you have the right who want to know every aspect of your life but lets ya go on with it (look at the patriot act)i dont like either solution. 260 million have health insurance and "every1" wants to RADICALLY change that over the next 15 years. y should we screw things up for those who have. (btw i have not had insurance for 2 years now) dont nerf the strong buff the weak! i dont want the government in charge of health care because it does not matter what party has the majority.. they all suck. everything they touch loses money, no matter what obama tells ya, and they say the solution to them... IS THEM??? wtf???
Trying to pigeonhole me, someone who would have voted for McCain if it wasn`t for Palin, as an all out Obama supporter doesn`t hold much ground.
I`m just pissed off that the Republicans were still blaming CLINTON in the last year of an 8 year Bush reign for the economy, and now instantly have moved on to Obama.
It`s like the 8 years of Bush have passed by and he has had no negative impact on the economy according to the Republicans.
8 years of "How can bush be expected to fix the problems of Clinton in a mere X years", and now it`s "Obama has been in for 20 minutes and STILL no change!" along with revisionist history of how we didn`t lose $14 trillion in the Bush years, and that unemployement wasn`t on the rise, and so on.
Well if those points are true I guess I must be wrong, yet somehow I don`t think you`re going to demonstrate that to be the case.... can`t think why.
There`s something not quite right with that sentence, lol.
Also, I`d rather have the government running these companies for the betterment of the people than greedy, risky, self-serving individuals who sen the economy spiraling into what it is now.
I`m not one for all these words and governing systems, is socialism the same as communism? Cuz communism, everyone being equal, would be great if you didn`t need people who are more equal than others to enforce it.
Just for the record i agreed with a lot of your points, but Obama has spent more than any other president previously. If Bush hadn`t started the war over in Iraq, the war would have been started by terrorists on our ground, even worse for the country, yes? The reason there seems to be such better terms among our alliances is because of Obama`s apologizing and compromising ways. (Much like the Europeans; As much of a good ally as Britain is, they`re generally compromisers.) I hate political flame wars, but I had to get that out, no hard feelings. :-)
Also, SuperSmash, I agree wholeheartedly with that statement.
You don`t have to take my word for it; look at the recent youtube vids of Barney Frank talking about single payer healthcare, or Obama talking about same.
They want a single payer system. Period. If you say otherwise, you`re either ignorant or a liar.
Besides that, socialism isn`t about the government running your life, it`s about the government running business. Now if business is your life then sure, but most people just work for a living.
Currently - unregulated corporate mega-conglomerates run your life and control the government. don`t think so? try doing ANYTHING or going ANYWHERE without huge megacorp involvement.
REAL socialism - The government nationalizes part or all of all corporations, rations all products of all companies in order to create an economy based around the control of those products. You want to see real socialism taking over, look at Venezuela, Chavez has nationalized EVERY exportable resource in order to control the country`s economy. THAT is socialism, not a stupid tax hike.
Then again, I`ve never actually watched any Batman stuff, so I have no idea whether the Joker represents socialism or anything.
Ignore me. I`m rambling.
this is just another failed attempt by the republican party to try to get younger voters by clinging to some random reference to a movie from over a year ago.
If you want the government to run your life, then yeah socialism is great. Personally, I don`t trust the government. It`s funny how a group of people who hate the government so much want it to run their entire existence.
BUSH is the one who destroyed this economy, not Obama. You wanna talk about who has put this country trillions upon trillions of dollars into debt? It`s your beloved Bush, that`s who. This country was doing well when Clinton left office, then Dubya came along and decided to f**k everything up to fight his daddy`s war with Saddam and start a "war on terror". It`s BUSH who is invested in oil companies and made millions when the rest of us were spending at least $4/gallon to fill up our cars. It`s BUSH who ruined many of our alliances with other countries, and it`s BUSH who helped ruin this economy with his war. Now Obama has to spend years picking up the pieces, and unfortunately it`s going to get worse before better.
Take a look at Bush and what he did before you start criticizing Obama, who hasn`t even been President for a full year.
And btw, Obama has not ended the war in Iraq. He`s only continuing the timeline that Bush had already set in progress for withdrawal. Bush scheduled the withdrawal of US troops from Iraqi cities a few weeks ago, not Obama.
And guantanamo? Yeah Obama is figuring out that it`s easier said than done. For one thing no US states want the prisoners in their backyard. So Obama has to plead with our allies to take 1 or 2 of them. He`s already pushing back his own deadlines on it.
Not to mention the fact that his populist promises of no taxes for anyone under $250,000 is breaking down day by day.
Also, it is my opinion that Obama is destroying our economy more than it has been.. ever. He has already spent more than my great great great grandchildren can possibly pay back.
It`s almost racist to claim anything negative about Obama is racist.
Oh. My. God.
As far as the picture, I think Noam Chomsky said it best: "The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum."
I won`t even begin to go into the history lessons about what the current government is doing wrong and why. Everything is not a crisis, everything cannot be solved through the use of spending excessive amounts of money and entitlement programs have a low level of efficacy and a significant drain on governmental budgets. You`re guy has done nothing yet to help anything but sepnd money and apologize. We still have two wars and prisoners in Gitmo. The economy`s key indicators are increase in spite of the massive and crippling ARRA, the auto manufacturers weren`t aided by bailouts as much as buyouts and bankruptcy courts, the medical "reform" will change medicine but I doubt for the good and our national debt will now be 23 trillion within the next ten years
amaqdrinker, i couldn`t agree with you more.
The link`s comments section draws many parallels between Obama and Joker to try and demonstrate how they`re the same, but those comments are made by idiots.
i think people should just be wary of how much power they are willing to give the government in order to rebuild a broken economic system.
Obama tries to fix your failing economy, failing healthcare system, failing country, as his "great sins" and painting a picture is deserved?
Not to mention, whilst I don`t recall liberals complaining about the Bush as Joker picture, I do remember Republicans bitching like they were being told to bitch at gunpoint.
Bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch bitch, pausing only to call liberals bitchers, cry summore, and go back to bitching.
this is the part, where you bend over, and take what you`ve been dishing out for 8 years, instead of only crying hypocrite the half the time it applies to 2 dems in a room.
Yes indeed, WTF are you talking about? Dave letterman was torn to shreds and forced to apologize, not so so far with this poster.
Are you suggesting we punish people we agree with more than those who we don`t? If anything it is the perfect example of the opposite of your beliefs.
Well done. From now on, rather than have me argue with you, why not just type out why you believe something, and that will suffice as my argument.
agreed I am a fascist pig and damn proud of it if thats what facsism consists of nowa days
now i no longer care about this iab debate.. goodbye
that is why in this country we still have the power to hold our politicians feet under the fire and that is why we the people can stall something like government takeover of health care simply by speaking our minds. i wish you guys had the kind of power we still do. unfortunately we are headed your way.
I think the latest polls have him at under 50% approval rating.
Bristol looks pretty skeezy to me just sayin
And Palin`s daughters are sluts.
hmmm....I don`t believe that Palin joke was very popular amongst both conservatives and liberals.
Anything a conservative jokes about is a big offense. But when Dave Letterman calls Sarah Palins daughters sluts its nothing? WTF!
As mentioned, these posters aren`t any worse than Bush posters, so i wouldn`t take it harshly. He is socialist, anyway. :-\
Obama`s a kiss ass socialist. It`s okay, we can all admit it now that he`s in office.
Hey, Obama is half-white/half-black so he should be fair game for anyone. It`s not like he even grew up among African-Americans. He was basically raised white by white grandparents and doesn`t share in the slave legacy because his black father was directly from Africa so he can`t relate to the black experience that the descendants of slaves share. Michelle is his only tie to that.
I like how the liberal blog voluntarily brings up Fox News. Do they not realize that they`re just playing into Fox`s hands? I bet half their viewership just watches because they hate it and now people are gonna watch Fox News to hear their reaction. Idiots.
Well, to be fair, Hawaii still hasn`t provided a document.
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Posted On: Tuesday, Aug. 4 2009 @ 9:38AM"