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Shocking, isn`t it?
"Goverment must accept all coins or paper currency from the United States, while private businesses can accept ANY form of payment or limit to one specific payment if they make an agreement with you and you accept this agreement."
Now PLEASE get on with your lives...
Key word: DEBTS. Not fees, not purchases, not services, DEBTS.
They obviously can`t fit this on a coin, but there is no distinction in the law between different types of legal tender.
You also cannot just make a `company policy` that conflicts with the law. Companies do this and rely on people`s ignorance to get away with it.
How many times have you seen a sign in a store saying "No returns. Store credit only." If you buy defective merchandise, you are entitled to your money back, not store credit.
What you`re saying is true, HOWEVER, unless the business had pre existing policies to refuse that type of payment they are forced to accept it.
There`s no law that says you CAN`T pay in pennies, neither is there a law that says a business MUST accept them. Most municipal and county courts won`t accept them for fines, either.
Your honor, I never AGREED not to speed or not to drive drunk, so you can`t make me pay!
It`s called a LAW. You break it (and get caught) you`re going to pay. Additionally, street signs around these parts (the US) usually don`t say "No Parking. Fine $xx. Towing $xx."
A contract requires an offer and acceptance, also referring to as a "meeting of the minds".
For your education
The lawyer incurs bank fees every time he makes a deposit. Cash, check, money order - it`s a cost of doing business. He doesn`t add those fees to his bills or judgements does he?? This particular payment incurred a higher fee because the guy paid in coins. What do you think vending machine operators do? Same thing - cost of doing business.
No one is required to sell goods and services at all, let alone be required to take any form of legal tender as payment. A retailer could work entirely off the barter system if they saw fit. But there is no `debt` involvled because the person doesn`t `owe` money to the retailer. If they bought it on layaway, or took out a loan, maybe we could talk....
niether of your posts prove me wrong
the first, if you read it through, says that he was not in comtempt for paying with pennies however he had to pay the extra expense caused by it which is different from saying he can`t pay with them at all
the second just resates part of my post. yes a private business has the right to ask for payment however they like but unless they state that they want to paid in a certain way AT THE TIME THE CONTRACT IS MADE then it is pressumed that any legal tender will suffice. from what the video tells me that company did not state that they did not want to be paid in pennies and the time the contract was made(when he got the ticket) and so they do not have a right to refuse legal tender. if fom now on the do not wish to be paid in that way they should write on the ticket `do not pay in pennies` or what ever they want to put.
"There is, however, no Federal statute mandating that a private business, a person or an organization must accept currency or coins as for payment for goods and/or services. Private businesses are free to develop their own policies on whether or not to accept cash unless there is a State law which says otherwise. For example, a bus line may prohibit payment of fares in pennies or dollar bills. In addition, movie theaters, convenience stores and gas stations may refuse to accept large denomination currency (usually notes above $20) as a matter of policy."
Opie, love the new haircut ;)
you are dumb and your posts are a clear representation of people having an opinion based on one fact.
you seem to have all seen the thing that says "There is, however, no Federal law mandating that a person or organization must accept currency or coins as for payment for goods and/or services"
what you missed is the fact that if a company does have a payment policy like `no pennies` it must be stated at the time you enter the contract as it is assumed in a contractual agreement involving a payment that all legal tender is accepted unless stated. from what i heard on the vid this wasn`t stated on the ticket which is when he entered the contract and so he had a right to pay however he damn liked as long as it was legal tender and she could not refuse no matter how annoying he was
otherwise he could sue to have the debt cancelled
You my good sir should try working on a drating till. It is boring and tiring and people are not nice. So stuff like that just makes it worse and you are an non-nice individual for that. I would just say Do you have it in full currency? and when your a douche i would refuse to serve you! We get in trouble from the management for having it
where in europe ya from....coz it aint uk. seeing as though only yesterday i bought new pair of trainers with pennies to piss of the douchebag working tills.
Conclusion: this guy is an idiot.
Me thinks you`ve never has your car towed before......
Not saying it was the best way to make that girls day, but legally he was in the clear. Unless company policy stated something to the contrary she had to accept them.
If it was foreign currency then she would probably have a reason to refuse, besides them being asses
I`d do the same thing. It`s a specific company, therefore the secretary there is responsible.
Ok, bad example. But I can understand why she`d be annoyed.
Sure, isn`t is more fun that way?
his friend with the earing was hot :]
"how are you going to fit 880 piles of pennies on her desk??"
As long as you have one pile for reference, you can put the other piles you complete in some other container, methinks.
She seemed like a bitch. All I can say is go karma
how are you going to fit 880 piles of pennies on her desk??
US Currency must be accepted to pay (among other things) debts. It does NOT have to be accepted to purchase goods and services, and that`s how some business can refuse to take large denominations of US Currency. Check out this link: Link
As for the towing company, they were just doing what the cops asked them to do. The cops find an illegally parked car, ticket it, tow it, boot it, whatever. The tow company provides a service to the city.
He undoubtedly got a ticket for illegal parking out of this also. Can`t wait for the video when he takes all his remaining pennies to the municipal clerk to pay that!
----------------------------------------------The woman was breaking a federal law dude.
And that was my Snopes link. I should kill you. But I won`t because that`s just mean, it`s not like you impounded my car or anything.
She and every person that works that position deserves that and more, KUDOS to the guy that did this and for whoever posted this!
In England, Australia (and presumably other countries) if you attempt to pay a bill, and they refuse to accept your payment, and you can prove that they refused to accept the payment when you offered it, the debt is no longer existent - a carryover from the old days of Fiefdoms and Lords, where a Lord would get his peasants into his debt and then refuse to let them EVER pay him back, thus `owning` them for the rest of their lives.
And being an old Saturday-night paper boy, I learned an obvious quick way of counting mega-coinage: carefully count ONE pile, then just stack and level off the other piles to the first one.
Says that that`s false, here in america anyways.
People are so lazy, just go get it counted into real money at the bank dammit!
I guess homeboy was just making a point though.
I wonder if their is a law about how fast she has to count it, she should have said she would count 1 penny a day for the next 8,800 days...
First he has to walk 15-20 miles home.THEN he has to GET 8800 pennies. People don`t just have that many lying around... he had to go to the bank to get them - for higher currency. He had to count them himself.
Then he has to carry all of it around with him. THEN he has to get them to accept it. Then he has to call the police...
and for what? A youtube video?
That kid is a douche. I can understand the whole "stick it to the man" thing, but you know what? "The man" doesn`t suffer. In the end, "The Man" got his money. The only one who suffered was the cashier who`s just trying to earn a living.
Maybe he shouldn`t have parked where he wasn`t supposed to.