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  1. Profile photo of fancylad
    fancylad Male 30-39
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    August 13, 2009 at 8:52 am
    Link: Disney Animators Are Hacks - Maybe they have their poo together now, but back in the day, Disney animators didn`t even pretend to try.
  2. Profile photo of DrVenkman
    DrVenkman Male 18-29
    287 posts
    August 13, 2009 at 9:06 am
    Both films were made by Disney - I fail to see the problem. So they reused some animation cells, so what?
  3. Profile photo of crazydaiz
    crazydaiz Female 18-29
    251 posts
    August 13, 2009 at 9:06 am
    animating is difficult. especially back then when you couldn`t use digital animation and whatnot

    can`t blame them

  4. Profile photo of adfarenheit
    adfarenheit Female 13-17
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    August 13, 2009 at 9:08 am
    ahhhhhhh, pooh is sooooooooooooo cute.
    it`s disney! they can reuse their own temps and animation if they want to.
  5. Profile photo of Rise23Up
    Rise23Up Male 18-29
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    August 13, 2009 at 9:09 am
    at least they changed the backgrounds...
    theres a video somewhere that shows a ton of disney`s cell reuses.
  6. Profile photo of himmm
    himmm Male 70 & Over
    189 posts
    August 13, 2009 at 9:13 am
    Winnie the Pooh should be in every I am Bored picture. Except the disgusting ones.
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    ohplease Male 50-59
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    August 13, 2009 at 9:20 am
    only thing the same is the composition. The color, lighting, textures, background all redone, I see no problem with this
  8. Profile photo of alliknow
    alliknow Female 18-29
    155 posts
    August 13, 2009 at 9:24 am
    have i not seen this like 3 times already on i am bored?
  9. Profile photo of Itsalwysunny
    Itsalwysunny Male 18-29
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    August 13, 2009 at 9:28 am
    and they made millions on both

    by the way every aladdin movie is the same way

  10. Profile photo of panth753
    panth753 Female 18-29
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    August 13, 2009 at 9:29 am
    I used to to like Disney, but then they hired Miley Cyrus and the Jonas Brothers...
  11. Profile photo of opiebreath
    opiebreath Female 18-29
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    August 13, 2009 at 9:50 am
    I`ll stick to my Pixar, thank you very much.
  12. Profile photo of The_Garuness
    The_Garuness Male 18-29
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    August 13, 2009 at 9:51 am
    haha, theres a bunch of these somewhere as well :P
  13. Profile photo of OverTheMoo
    OverTheMoo Female 18-29
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    August 13, 2009 at 9:57 am
    Disney recycles animation. This is a known fact.
  14. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    August 13, 2009 at 9:57 am
    Ze secret iz awt!
  15. Profile photo of Dakkar
    Dakkar Male 18-29
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    August 13, 2009 at 9:58 am
    Saw this quite a while ago. Never liked either film/show very much.
  16. Profile photo of hosipickle
    hosipickle Female 13-17
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    August 13, 2009 at 9:58 am
    disney is the balls.
    f*ck the guys up the butt who take their time looking for things like these and make videos and collages about it and make it out to be such a terrible thing that the animators do this -__-
  17. Profile photo of GummyWurmz
    GummyWurmz Female 13-17
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    August 13, 2009 at 10:00 am
    stupid disney :(
  18. Profile photo of yudontn0me
    yudontn0me Male 18-29
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    August 13, 2009 at 10:07 am
    the video from youtube
  19. Profile photo of miss_cky
    miss_cky Female 18-29
    85 posts
    August 13, 2009 at 10:12 am
    what a con
  20. Profile photo of LTimeLurker
    LTimeLurker Female 18-29
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    August 13, 2009 at 10:14 am
    I still love disney :D
  21. Profile photo of The-Sentinel
    The-Sentinel Male 18-29
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    August 13, 2009 at 10:15 am
    thanks for ruining 2 of my childhood films! :(
  22. Profile photo of unlk
    unlk Male 18-29
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    August 13, 2009 at 10:17 am
    hahaha im just thinking how would anybody ever notice that
  23. Profile photo of Hayllee
    Hayllee Female 13-17
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    August 13, 2009 at 10:32 am
    This wasn`t as entertaining as the fact as Pooh looks really happy and cute. I think I have issues.
  24. Profile photo of ryan99
    ryan99 Male 13-17
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    August 13, 2009 at 10:38 am
    I think we already proved this. There was a video a while back pointing out how they use the same exact motions and sets for a lot of their movies, just different drawings doing them.
  25. Profile photo of LandoGriffin
    LandoGriffin Male 30-39
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    August 13, 2009 at 10:43 am
    Yes, Ryan is correct - the animation was made from the same live-action models who did the movements
  26. Profile photo of Pancakezzz
    Pancakezzz Female 13-17
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    August 13, 2009 at 11:07 am
    I cant stop staring at pooh bear.....so cute...and happy.... :D
  27. Profile photo of divine_wind
    divine_wind Male 18-29
    312 posts
    August 13, 2009 at 11:22 am
    reminds me of "rock" today; its ALL THE SAME! actually.. rap is like that too.. and well, when u think about it so in country.. the moral of this story is listen to alternitave
  28. Profile photo of ze_tuna_fish
    ze_tuna_fish Female 13-17
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    August 13, 2009 at 11:30 am
    Are you kidding me? They drew entire movies by hand then... In great detail!
    CGI has nothing on hand drawn animation.
  29. Profile photo of Dfaulted
    Dfaulted Male 13-17
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    August 13, 2009 at 11:54 am
    they have their "pooh" together now. LOL well pooh is played by the same guy as the snake in junglebook.(just so you know)
  30. Profile photo of ruftytufty
    ruftytufty Male 40-49
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    August 13, 2009 at 12:07 pm
    Maybe this was some animator`s way of being clever/funny - i.e. reuse an element like this and see who notices (probably only other animators, or total film geeks).

    The only thing reused is the outline of the tree and the shaping of the surface (including the knot). The bark texture, and everything else in the picture, is different. So, they didn`t save all that much work, relative to the total amount of work in drawing these.

    Regardless of the motivation, reusing an element like this doesn`t make the old Dis animators "hacks". Their level of detail was much higher than in most (not all) hand-done animation done in the last 50 years.

  31. Profile photo of Aretsuku-kun
    Aretsuku-kun Male 13-17
    309 posts
    August 13, 2009 at 12:24 pm
    You people just realized Disney has been doing this now?!
  32. Profile photo of Nidonemo
    Nidonemo Male 18-29
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    August 13, 2009 at 12:29 pm
    Yep, templates.
  33. Profile photo of Vhreio
    Vhreio Male 30-39
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    August 13, 2009 at 12:39 pm
    It`s common knowledge that Disney reused frames to keep costs down.
  34. Profile photo of xParanoia
    xParanoia Female 18-29
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    August 13, 2009 at 12:45 pm
    Who cares? Do you know how time-consuming and costly animating is?
  35. Profile photo of xParanoia
    xParanoia Female 18-29
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    August 13, 2009 at 12:46 pm
    Oh wait... So The Flinstones was allowed to reuse like 2 background frames for a five-minute walk/drive, but Disney can`t reuse a background/outline?
  36. Profile photo of dope_boy_420
    dope_boy_420 Male 13-17
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    August 13, 2009 at 12:55 pm
    Disney always seems to amaze me. XD
  37. Profile photo of OS666
    OS666 Male 30-39
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    August 13, 2009 at 12:55 pm
    who finds these things?
  38. Profile photo of msieg007
    msieg007 Male 18-29
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    August 13, 2009 at 12:56 pm
    Lest we forget, there was no such thing as CGI animation "back in the day" so even though they used similar scenes and movements, everything was still hand-drawn.

    And to the person who commented about live-action models: you can`t be serious about that.

  39. Profile photo of nerdpickle12
    nerdpickle12 Male 13-17
    14 posts
    August 13, 2009 at 1:02 pm
    I don`t know how many times i`ve seen this before.
  40. Profile photo of Corpsecrank
    Corpsecrank Male 30-39
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    August 13, 2009 at 1:04 pm
    Back when you had to hand animate everything you tried to find any short cut possible to save time and get things done. It`s genius really because you would never catch it in time for it to matter and there are enough differences between the two.

    In pixar animations they reuse the same textures on all of the 3d models but since the textures are on different models you would never know that about half of every pixar movie is used in another of their films as well. The textures become a pooled resource they can grab things from when needed. Again just a time saver and not really something to criticize.

  41. Profile photo of RVIsh
    RVIsh Male 18-29
    251 posts
    August 13, 2009 at 1:11 pm
    Disney wrote fanfics.
  42. Profile photo of dilldog123
    dilldog123 Male 18-29
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    August 13, 2009 at 1:22 pm
    Jesus I`d do that any chance I could. I`d say it`s an homage to a previous artist, or it could just so happen to be the same person drawing a similar scene a second time. I make my smiley faces the same way every time, why can`t he do trees the same?
  43. Profile photo of firegodzilla
    firegodzilla Male 18-29
    175 posts
    August 13, 2009 at 1:26 pm
    Bah, stop giving `em excuses, they were lazy, deal with it.
  44. Profile photo of felena
    felena Female 13-17
    381 posts
    August 13, 2009 at 1:35 pm
    ._.
  45. Profile photo of Spirithound
    Spirithound Male 18-29
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    August 13, 2009 at 1:50 pm
    Weak. Whoever only gave us one example, you can do way, way better...
  46. Profile photo of viczko
    viczko Male 13-17
    906 posts
    August 13, 2009 at 2:17 pm
    lol poo
  47. Profile photo of ghostofme
    ghostofme Male 18-29
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    August 13, 2009 at 2:20 pm
    Disney Double Take
  48. Profile photo of jar-head
    jar-head Male 13-17
    596 posts
    August 13, 2009 at 2:29 pm
    no, they just smoked the same stuff, quiet often apparently
  49. Profile photo of Lionhart2
    Lionhart2 Male 40-49
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    August 13, 2009 at 2:57 pm
    1 of these trees is not like the others,
    3 of these trees are kinda the same,
    Can you guess which tree is not the the others...
  50. Profile photo of Lionhart2
    Lionhart2 Male 40-49
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    August 13, 2009 at 2:58 pm
    ghostofme, thanks for posting that link, I totally missed that one originally.

    PS that`s a great site, that one.

  51. Profile photo of Fortitude
    Fortitude Male 30-39
    255 posts
    August 13, 2009 at 3:05 pm
    Man, they just phoned that one in...
  52. Profile photo of TBirdVBall
    TBirdVBall Female 18-29
    519 posts
    August 13, 2009 at 3:18 pm
    Disney ALWAYS does that. I remember there was a video showing examples.
  53. Profile photo of bikenutt
    bikenutt Male 30-39
    384 posts
    August 13, 2009 at 3:20 pm
    The hidden porn and phallic symbols in some Disney movies almost approach pop-art worthiness.
  54. Profile photo of keith2
    keith2 Male 18-29
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    August 13, 2009 at 3:21 pm
    so who cares kids watch that stuff they`ll never figure it out
  55. Profile photo of Bilburn
    Bilburn Male 18-29
    68 posts
    August 13, 2009 at 3:29 pm
    Who cares we didn`t notice it until now :)
  56. Profile photo of dead-groom
    dead-groom Male 18-29
    81 posts
    August 13, 2009 at 3:37 pm
    yeah we all know this stuff...it`s the youth sentimental that keeps disney in my heart:)
    these new digital animated films suck donkeyballs
  57. Profile photo of Frogtango
    Frogtango Male 13-17
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    August 13, 2009 at 3:46 pm
    lolol, still the best eva
  58. Profile photo of dragosal
    dragosal Male 18-29
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    August 13, 2009 at 3:48 pm
    haha if u didnt know that disney artists were hacks b4 now i am sorry :(
  59. Profile photo of AlexTron
    AlexTron Male 18-29
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    August 13, 2009 at 3:50 pm
    Wasn`t there an entire video of these that was posted a while ago? Hmm...
  60. Profile photo of Lionhart2
    Lionhart2 Male 40-49
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    August 13, 2009 at 3:55 pm
    Not to mention of course the fact that the plot and characters of every single Disney movie ever are basically the same.

    >AlexTron
    > Wasn`t there an entire video of these that was posted a while ago?

    Gee, like the one ghostofme linked just 12 posts below yours? Like that?

  61. Profile photo of limboTimbo
    limboTimbo Male 18-29
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    August 13, 2009 at 4:35 pm
    Ah cmon, how does this really make disney hacks? :P
    Theres nothing wrong in reusing content in a production, and it hardly takes away from the artistry needed to realise these shots. have any of you tried animating a feature film? ...exactly..id stop being such a bunch of ignorant retards and hold back on calling them hacks... DISNEY F*CK YEAAAH!!
    *ahem*
  62. Profile photo of RdDan
    RdDan Male 30-39
    759 posts
    August 13, 2009 at 4:43 pm
    I`ve never seen a Disney movie....am i missing out on much?
  63. Profile photo of wcclark
    wcclark Male 18-29
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    August 13, 2009 at 4:52 pm
    Scoff. Old news.

    I still love Disney regardless.

  64. Profile photo of slepre
    slepre Female 18-29
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    August 13, 2009 at 4:52 pm
    well why not re use it? its not like every scene is re-used and reusing it saves time and money- their old stuff that was hand animated was really spectacular
  65. Profile photo of ericdee
    ericdee Male 18-29
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    August 13, 2009 at 5:08 pm
    This isn`t "hacking" or "reusing." They`re alluding to previous films. If you`ve ever read a book or seen a film, you`ll know that most of them always allude to something previously done. (:
  66. Profile photo of Dylan5121
    Dylan5121 Male 13-17
    955 posts
    August 13, 2009 at 5:16 pm
    Walt Disney was a 33rd degree free mason yeah know... some people believe he influenced their productions with free mason ideals... I really don`t much more than that but you decide I guess...
  67. Profile photo of StarCallista
    StarCallista Female 18-29
    256 posts
    August 13, 2009 at 5:21 pm
    RdDan, you`re missing out on a whole world.

    A WHOLE NEW WORLD...

  68. Profile photo of Noggin01
    Noggin01 Male 30-39
    72 posts
    August 13, 2009 at 5:49 pm
    You know what was reused?

    That god damned IAB watermark. This is a DISNEY image, not an IAB image.

    How many people on this board called E Baum a thief? Watermarking poo that wasn`t his?

  69. Profile photo of gatorade777
    gatorade777 Male 18-29
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    August 13, 2009 at 6:49 pm
    link_id=39207Similar post
  70. Profile photo of dramaeco
    dramaeco Male 18-29
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    August 13, 2009 at 6:50 pm
    wouldn`t say they are hacks cause it all belongs to them, but they DO reuse it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOIrXGd51...
  71. Profile photo of dramaeco
    dramaeco Male 18-29
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    August 13, 2009 at 6:50 pm
    doh , beat me to the punch
  72. Profile photo of gatorade777
    gatorade777 Male 18-29
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    August 13, 2009 at 6:52 pm
    well since yours is more recent they`ll read yours anyways
  73. Profile photo of dramaeco
    dramaeco Male 18-29
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    August 13, 2009 at 7:04 pm
    no, no, credit, where credit is due
  74. Profile photo of StarCallista
    StarCallista Female 18-29
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    August 13, 2009 at 7:34 pm
    Noggin.

    Are you on a Disney site?

    Did EBaum or IAB actually claim the picture as their own specific creation?

    Do you enjoy trying to create arguments for the sake of it?

    Please, be quiet, and let us all enjoy the laziness of the ancient Disney artists without ridiculous accusations of no real purpose.

    Much appreciated ^^

  75. Profile photo of seeks_love
    seeks_love Female 18-29
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    August 13, 2009 at 8:03 pm
    The video one linked below the pic is great. I don`t care that it`s laziness. It would have been much worse in the case of `Robin Hood` and `The Jungle Book` if they didn`t have the same guy voice both Baloo and Little John. That would have been awkward.
  76. Profile photo of thevssranger
    thevssranger Male 18-29
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    August 13, 2009 at 8:11 pm
    wow. I never noticed, mostly cause I always hated disney.
  77. Profile photo of Mooshoo
    Mooshoo Male 30-39
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    August 13, 2009 at 8:39 pm
    @thevssranger - That`s an awesome comment dude. I was just reading this article on stupid commentators around the internet, and you hit the nail!
  78. Profile photo of Mooshoo
    Mooshoo Male 30-39
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    August 13, 2009 at 8:40 pm
    And I should know, I`m a whale biologist.
  79. Profile photo of krackfishy3
    krackfishy3 Male 18-29
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    August 13, 2009 at 9:20 pm
    Must these be re posted? I think if you haven`t seen it already then you`re probably not old enough to have seen the movies anyway.
  80. Profile photo of Poefan101
    Poefan101 Male 13-17
    315 posts
    August 13, 2009 at 10:48 pm
    Does anyone notice the sexual position that tree is?...god I spend to much time on the internet...
  81. Profile photo of mais_dare
    mais_dare Male 18-29
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    August 13, 2009 at 11:01 pm
    In all of the earlier disney movies, they used a method called rotoscoping. Have one source video, so they implement it when needed.
  82. Profile photo of zekumi
    zekumi Female 18-29
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    August 14, 2009 at 1:37 am
    Yeah, I`m getting tired of seeing this re-posted again and again.

    Anyway, as I`ve explained before, it has absolutely nothing to do with laziness (or "alluding" to another film).

    Things like this occurred when either money or time was an issue. Robin Hood, for example, had a very tight budget and has a multitude of these occurrences.

  83. Profile photo of BunnyNaku
    BunnyNaku Female 18-29
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    August 14, 2009 at 4:42 am
    DUH
  84. Profile photo of GRadde
    GRadde Male 18-29
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    August 14, 2009 at 5:47 am
    Hahahahahahaha!
    Never thought of that. Must investigate...
  85. Profile photo of MetalicDemon
    MetalicDemon Male 18-29
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    August 14, 2009 at 9:03 am
    repost
  86. Profile photo of gatorade777
    gatorade777 Male 18-29
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    August 14, 2009 at 1:33 pm
    mooshoo that wasn`t very funny
  87. Profile photo of GothicQueen
    GothicQueen Male 13-17
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    August 14, 2009 at 2:10 pm
    I still love old disney better. All this new crap really isn`t even good. I think i`m one of the few people out there that didn`t even care for Wall-E.

    eh..whatever. On a different note I loved the Jungle Book.

  88. Profile photo of Lolcats
    Lolcats Male 18-29
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    August 14, 2009 at 3:58 pm
    awww look a pooh
  89. Profile photo of NotHerAgain
    NotHerAgain Female 18-29
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    August 14, 2009 at 5:20 pm
    They`ve done that with a bunch of movies.
  90. Profile photo of Cylence
    Cylence Female 40-49
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    August 14, 2009 at 7:58 pm
    Well back in the day, they had it doen by hand not computer. I am sure they just didn`t want to hire more peeps to make a whole other picture. Just sayin`
  91. Profile photo of jrodjarrod
    jrodjarrod Male 18-29
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    August 14, 2009 at 10:43 pm
    You Shut The F Up GothicQueen!!! You ass sucker! Wall-E was the SHIZ! Disney was, and always will be, a badass evil corporation that touches the hearts of ignorant little children the world over!!!
  92. Profile photo of lemmingboy15
    lemmingboy15 Male 18-29
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    August 15, 2009 at 12:25 am
    jrodjarrod.... your comment makes me laugh. :P
  93. Profile photo of KX250F
    KX250F Male 13-17
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    August 15, 2009 at 12:59 am
    back in the good ole days. I miss old disney :`(
  94. Profile photo of Freelop
    Freelop Male 18-29
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    August 15, 2009 at 6:16 am
    there is a whole video of this stuff I think on funnyordie.com
  95. Profile photo of megann_exoh
    megann_exoh Female 13-17
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    August 15, 2009 at 7:30 am
    they just changed the colour of him.
    that sounds awfully racist, but its the truth. even his hair is the same.
  96. Profile photo of mrwnt
    mrwnt Male 18-29
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    August 15, 2009 at 9:40 am
    megann_exoh: how is that possibly racist? How are you suggesting that all members of a race have a certain characteristic when you say some animators changed a character`s color?

    Why can`t we even bring up race without thinking we`re being racist?

  97. Profile photo of 1williamsg
    1williamsg Male 18-29
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    August 15, 2009 at 11:01 am
    so they saved themself time and money
    all cartoons did this
  98. Profile photo of vitaliy
    vitaliy Male 18-29
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    August 15, 2009 at 1:20 pm
    well we knew that all along, didn`t we?
  99. Profile photo of PortalGod
    PortalGod Male 13-17
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    August 15, 2009 at 2:13 pm
    reminded me of the clouds and the bushes in SMB 3 :O

  100. Profile photo of michan
    michan Female 18-29
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    August 25, 2009 at 7:17 am
    Man, you had to draw those pics one by one, to create every little ovement.
    Cut them some slack
  101. Profile photo of ruftytufty
    ruftytufty Male 40-49
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    October 8, 2009 at 6:02 pm
    Maybe this was some animator`s way of being clever/funny - i.e. reuse an element like this and see who notices (probably only other animators, or total film geeks).

    The only thing reused is the outline of the tree and the shaping of the surface (including the knot). The bark texture, and everything else in the picture, is different. So, they didn`t save all that much work, relative to the total amount of work in drawing these.

    Regardless of the motivation, reusing an element like this doesn`t make the old Dis animators "hacks". Their level of detail was much higher than in most (not all) hand-done animation done in the last 50 years.

  102. Profile photo of ruftytufty
    ruftytufty Male 40-49
    51 posts
    October 8, 2009 at 8:22 pm
    Maybe this was some animator`s way of being clever/funny - i.e. reuse an element like this and see who notices (probably only other animators, or total film geeks).

    The only thing reused is the outline of the tree and the shaping of the surface (including the knot). The bark texture, and everything else in the picture, is different. So, they didn`t save all that much work, relative to the total amount of work in drawing these.

    Regardless of the motivation, reusing an element like this doesn`t make the old Dis animators "hacks". Their level of detail was much higher than in most (not all) hand-done animation done in the last 50 years.

  103. Profile photo of ruftytufty
    ruftytufty Male 40-49
    51 posts
    October 12, 2009 at 11:39 am
    Maybe this was some animator`s way of being clever/funny - i.e. reuse an element like this and see who notices (probably only other animators, or total film geeks).

    The only thing reused is the outline of the tree and the shaping of the surface (including the knot). The bark texture, and everything else in the picture, is different. So, they didn`t save all that much work, relative to the total amount of work in drawing these.

    Regardless of the motivation, reusing an element like this doesn`t make the old Dis animators "hacks". Their level of detail was much higher than in most (not all) hand-done animation done in the last 50 years.

  104. Profile photo of ruftytufty
    ruftytufty Male 40-49
    51 posts
    October 12, 2009 at 2:16 pm
    Maybe this was some animator`s way of being clever/funny - i.e. reuse an element like this and see who notices (probably only other animators, or total film geeks).

    The only thing reused is the outline of the tree and the shaping of the surface (including the knot). The bark texture, and everything else in the picture, is different. So, they didn`t save all that much work, relative to the total amount of work in drawing these.

    Regardless of the motivation, reusing an element like this doesn`t make the old Dis animators "hacks". Their level of detail was much higher than in most (not all) hand-done animation done in the last 50 years.

  105. Profile photo of xtremegz
    xtremegz Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2009 at 7:39 am
    Do you know how tedious it is to make new animated movements and backgrounds? I don`t blame them for using the same things, in fact it`s cost effective. It`s amazing that they added this kind of level of detail even if it`s used numerous times.

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