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    fancylad Male 30-39
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    July 27, 2009 at 1:49 pm
    Link: Professional Athelete Paydays - ...Compared to what you and I make.
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    July 27, 2009 at 2:00 pm
    Sports is the way to go!
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    ArthurPark Male 13-17
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    July 27, 2009 at 2:01 pm
    Ha?
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    gornyhuy Male 30-39
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    July 27, 2009 at 2:01 pm
    There are 26 pay periods per year, not 24, douchebags.
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    MauserTM Male 18-29
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    July 27, 2009 at 2:05 pm
    82 games 65000 is not a lot considering youre not playing all your life, and you need to be very good and lucky at basketball, besides, what if you break a toe? youre fcked for life!
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    lordtyusa Male 30-39
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    July 27, 2009 at 2:18 pm
    The saddest part is that the bottom 4 on that list are jobs that we actually NEED! And two of the bottom three actually save lives! I think the surgeon is the only one on there getting paid what they are worth.
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    seabass101dg Male 18-29
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    July 27, 2009 at 2:31 pm
    the firemen and police officers need to switch spots with the lawyer and us senator.
    The huge amount of money paid to these numbskulls who play sports can be changed if everyone stops watching/caring about professional sports and focused more on their lives and the well beings of importants citizens on the left.
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    lorface Female 18-29
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    July 27, 2009 at 2:37 pm
    This makes my insides bleed.

    There needs to be a SERIOUS change here. Too bad I don`t EVER see it coming.

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    PacoP42 Male 13-17
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    July 27, 2009 at 2:41 pm
    i wonder how much a proffesional musician gets paid :D
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    murrymalty Female 18-29
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    July 27, 2009 at 2:42 pm
    Hockey sucks, they paycheck reflects that
    but this is disproven cos baseball gets so much money...and it suck
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    JoeYC Male 18-29
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    July 27, 2009 at 2:45 pm
    i hate that the people who "make the world go around" get paid less than the people this world doesnt really need.
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    Monsdurr Male 13-17
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    July 27, 2009 at 2:46 pm
    There`s in no reason or need they need to be payed that much, goddamit.
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    s0rd3dvis1on Male 18-29
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    July 27, 2009 at 2:56 pm
    the pay difference isnt that gr8 oh the left are in the millions.
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    SuperJesus Male 13-17
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    July 27, 2009 at 2:57 pm
    This is why I think all team sports should be abolished. No sports, no interest in sports, no paying these guys 100x average people.
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    TrampyMan Male 18-29
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    July 27, 2009 at 2:59 pm
    So sad...
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    Shanir Male 30-39
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    July 27, 2009 at 2:59 pm
    God that sucks the dumb people get paid loads and the smart ones get paid less lol
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    kinjomusashi Male 30-39
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    July 27, 2009 at 3:08 pm
    sorry but i have absolutely no respect for professional athletes...they all have a talent that is completely worthless...how is watching grown men fighting over a f*cking ball entertaining?
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    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    July 27, 2009 at 3:09 pm
    The reason they get paid more is the same reason CEOs get paid more, they bring more money in than they take out.

    Generously, a surgeon will not operate on more than 300 people a year, they each give him say $10`000.

    He makes 3 million this year extremely optimistically.

    Shakira gets her album bought by say 1 million people. They each give her say $6. She makes $6 million this year. Extremely pessimistically. (Not counting live events, not counting advertising, not counting the minor detail that CDs cost more than $6, not counting that she sold 20 million, not 1, not counting royalties, etc, but hopefully that`s compensated for by marketing/cuts along the way/capital/production costs/etc).

    anyway, point is, thousands of people will go see a game if their team wins, if the athletes make the team win, they make money for the club, more money than their salary.

    Ergo, when clubs auction athletes, they pay alot.

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    emzrok Female 13-17
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    July 27, 2009 at 3:14 pm
    "This is why I think all team sports should be abolished. No sports, no interest in sports, no paying these guys 100x average people."

    Okay, #1. You`re the biggest nerd on earth, I`m guessing. #2. Marry me?

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    firegodzilla Male 18-29
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    July 27, 2009 at 3:18 pm
    So so upsetting...
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    The_Garuness Male 18-29
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    July 27, 2009 at 3:20 pm
    its sickening in a way.
    but i mean, people are entertained from watching sports i guess, but getting paid that? good god!
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    ScottSerious Male 18-29
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    July 27, 2009 at 3:23 pm
    i think the world would survive if athletes didn`t exsist. that goes to show how important they really are.
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    Angua13 Female 18-29
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    July 27, 2009 at 3:30 pm
    Its frustrating yes, but they are making that much money because of the revenue they are producing for the product. If they were not worth that much to the bosses that have to pay them they wouldn`t get it.

    Also I don`t know where they pulled their figures from (maybe it says) but cops where I am start at 70k.

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    BeatleAddict Female 13-17
    226 posts
    July 27, 2009 at 3:36 pm
    Oh look, the wonders of capitalism.
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    July 27, 2009 at 3:39 pm
    Course` you realize:

    That there are far fewer professional athletes than there are professionals.

    That you don`t need $10M to live even the most extravagant lifestyle.

    That the only reason those people are paid so much is because you - the fans - are willing to pay their salaries through overpriced tickets, TV, merchandise and other cr@p.

    and finally...

    There are people who make more than athletes who deserve it even less (if that`s possible).

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    Tiredofnicks Male 30-39
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    July 27, 2009 at 3:42 pm
    Twenty-eight million per year, hoo boy. That`s what, a dollar per second?
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    tornadofdoom Male 13-17
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    July 27, 2009 at 3:50 pm
    Tiredofnicks:

    No, he`s a bit more than 3 million dollars short of that.

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    Jaydeejj Female 70 & Over
    713 posts
    July 27, 2009 at 3:52 pm
    Sports goes hand in hand with the rest of the entertainment field. Its a big business with big profits.
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    DesertDustX Male 18-29
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    July 27, 2009 at 3:55 pm
    theres no need for them to make that much money, the money should go towards way more useful things such as research for important things
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    dragonshadoz Female 18-29
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    July 27, 2009 at 4:11 pm
    It`s sad and ridiculous how the average player earns more than a f-cking surgeon. So stupid, our priorities.
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    Negative_One Male 30-39
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    July 27, 2009 at 4:22 pm
    *Puts a bullet in his own head.
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    msieg007 Male 18-29
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    July 27, 2009 at 4:25 pm
    "Twenty-eight million per year, hoo boy. That`s what, a dollar per second?"

    Actually, it`s about 89 cents/second

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    amaqdrinker Male 18-29
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    July 27, 2009 at 4:34 pm
    the masses love the entertainment provided by sports. the product sold by the business is desirable and therefore highly profitable so the workers producing the product get paid well. you really can`t complain if you watch any sports at all.
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    Baelzar Male 40-49
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    July 27, 2009 at 4:42 pm
    If any of you are pro sports fans...this is your fault. Don`t go to pro games, don`t watch pro games on TV, don`t buy pro team merchandise.

    Otherwise? Shut up.

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    primetimekin Male 18-29
    7936 posts
    July 27, 2009 at 5:07 pm
    "the firemen and police officers need to switch spots with the lawyer and us senator.
    The huge amount of money paid to these numbskulls who play sports can be changed if everyone stops watching/caring about professional sports and focused more on their lives and the well beings of importants citizens on the left."

    Anyone can be a policemen or a firemen if they wanted to. All you need is a GED and a bit of training. Lawyers and Senators require a lot more work.

    "i hate that the people who "make the world go around" get paid less than the people this world doesnt really need. "

    You do realize that A-rod puts people on the seats, which pays for all the workers in the stadium, not too mention the people at MLB.com who process the jerseys, to the delivery man, etc.

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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    July 27, 2009 at 5:09 pm
    "This is why I think all team sports should be abolished. No sports, no interest in sports, no paying these guys 100x average people."

    yes lets remove a multi billion dollar industry...you are one savvy economist.

    "sorry but i have absolutely no respect for professional athletes...they all have a talent that is completely worthless...how is watching grown men fighting over a f*cking ball entertaining?"

    The same way going on a website and watching a graph is entertaining.

    "The reason they get paid more is the same reason CEOs get paid more, they bring more money in than they take out. "

    Baalthazaq always has to be the voice of reason.

    "i think the world would survive if athletes didn`t exsist. that goes to show how important they really are."

    The world would also survive if roads didn`t exist. I still drating want them

    "Oh look, the wonders of capitalism."

    Socialism is great until you run out of other people`s money

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    primetimekin Male 18-29
    7936 posts
    July 27, 2009 at 5:12 pm
    "theres no need for them to make that much money, the money should go towards way more useful things such as research for important things"

    And how much of your salary do you donate to research? If I want to spend my money on an Ocho Cinco Jersey, I don`t see whats wrong with that. Millions of others agree and thats why he gets paid the big bucks.

    "It`s sad and ridiculous how the average player earns more than a f-cking surgeon. So stupid, our priorities."

    There are more surgeons than there are athletes. Its harder to become an athlete than it is to become a surgeon. Plus athletes bring in more money than surgeons do SEE: baalthazaq

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    wolfking Male 13-17
    156 posts
    July 27, 2009 at 5:15 pm
    if atheletes didnt exicst and sports didnt everysingle person would be fater than ever and life would end 4 me
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    Siora Male 18-29
    221 posts
    July 27, 2009 at 5:16 pm
    Calm down dear.
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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    July 27, 2009 at 5:17 pm
    Let me see if this well help you understand why athletes salaries are justified.

    A few years ago here in Miami, we were fortunate enough to host the Superbowl.

    One of the players that went to the Superbowl was Peyton Manning who gets paid 99.2 million over 7 years. Thats not including his multi-million dollar contract with Sprint.

    People from across the country flew to Miami to watch him play. People bought phones to have the same phone the pros have. Jerseys, ticket sales, advertisement,etc.

    The amount of tax dollars generated from that 1 event, just in Miami, was enough to pay thousands of cops salarys. It kept business running, and many people dependent on the added income from those revenues down here (my mother works in sales, next month sales skyrocketed).

    Athletes (and entertainers in general) are more beneficial for people than they want to think

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    Siora Male 18-29
    221 posts
    July 27, 2009 at 5:20 pm
    "And how much of your salary do you donate to research?"

    None, since i don`t make $28 million a year, is it even possible to spend all of that money. How much of it is just greed?

    They could easily make a difference to the world.

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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    July 27, 2009 at 5:25 pm
    ""And how much of your salary do you donate to research?"

    None, since i don`t make $28 million a year, is it even possible to spend all of that money. How much of it is just greed?

    They could easily make a difference to the world."

    So you want OTHERS to donate for your cause? 10% of their salary is no different than 10% of your salary. And Arods 28 million comes from Jersey sales (which has mailman deliver it), stadium prices (which has security workers bringing in people to the stadium), food sales (which...you get the point).

    Athletes have trained their whole life to get to that point, and are more beneficial for everyone else. I say let them spend their hard earned money the same way you should spend yours, however you please.

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    gimpsrcool Male 13-17
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    July 27, 2009 at 5:25 pm
    One thing with the athletes is that they can only work 15-20 years tops. And they don`t start out making that much money. Also their bodies go through hell...look at how young a lot of the football players die. They get paid a lot, but have to live with some of the problems as a result of playing.
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    bhedgehog Male 30-39
    78 posts
    July 27, 2009 at 5:36 pm
    It is simply obscene and little surprise that mostly youngsters are defending it.

    While some of the reasoning is sound on a cursory basic level, ie: making business sense due to things like shirt sales... you do have to wonder about, maybe, a 1% reduction in wages and how that would effect the "star" and if that saving were passed onto, say, the kids that stitched together those shirts and how that money would effect those kids. Likewise, if that is not acceptable - then how about a reduction in the price of the shirts... after all it is the kids that buy them... or rather the down-beaten parent that pays for them.

    Not sure if this goes on in the US, but with a recent influx of African football players into the European football league, many of those players view their own success with a huge amount of humility and invest much of their wealth in development and programmes in their home countries.

    We can only hope these guys on the 25m a year meal tickets are using it w

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    bhedgehog Male 30-39
    78 posts
    July 27, 2009 at 5:40 pm
    We can only hope these guys on the 25m a year meal tickets are using it wisely
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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    July 27, 2009 at 5:41 pm
    "ie: making business sense due to things like shirt sales... you do have to wonder about, maybe, a 1% reduction in wages and how that would effect the "star" and if that saving were passed onto, say, the kids that stitched together those shirts and how that money would effect those kids."

    why would it go to them? In third world nations those kids are competing to get those jobs. Law of Iron Wages states that as supply for a field goes up the demand goes down, therefore the wages would go down. That 1% would just go to the owner.

    "then how about a reduction in the price of the shirts... after all it is the kids that buy them... or rather the down-beaten parent that pays for them."

    Thats the price the league deems most profitable. Business=/= charity. The NFL/MLB/NBA/etc are offering a product, no one is forcing you to buy it.

    "Not sure if this goes on in the US, but with a recent..."

    some do have charities, a lot of them do. But its thei

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    lerie Female 18-29
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    July 27, 2009 at 5:41 pm
    I doubt athletes contribute more to the world than a surgeon and thus I think they are over payed.

    But then, if them being overpayed helps other people have jobs,I can`t complain.

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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    July 27, 2009 at 5:42 pm
    but its their money, I say they use it how they please. No one is telling you how to use your paycheck.
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    bhedgehog Male 30-39
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    July 27, 2009 at 5:42 pm
    "no one is forcing you to buy it"

    Ask your mum to qualify that.

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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    July 27, 2009 at 5:46 pm
    ""no one is forcing you to buy it"

    Ask your mum to qualify that."

    I go on allowance. I get X amount of dollars and choose how to spend it.

    Again, I can buy a jersey or donate to charity. I chose jersey, sue me.

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    bhedgehog Male 30-39
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    July 27, 2009 at 5:52 pm
    "why would it go to them? In third world nations those kids are competing to get those jobs. Law of Iron Wages states that as supply for a field goes up the demand goes down, therefore the wages would go down. That 1% would just go to the owner."

    While it would not necessarily be as profitable(and aint that key to it all? isnt it sport?), it would be possible for these organisations to ensure that both finance and support was invested and it wouldn`t necessarly simply end up in the pocket of the owners.

    At the end of the day, anyone getting paid 25m odd is doing so at some else`s expense and hard work... and undoubtedly at a great deal of other people`s expense.

    A huge amount of exploitation going on, from the fans and parent`s of the fans... through to the sharp end of the manufacturing and production. It`s not going to fix but this is where the money is coming from... people are paying for it at both ends.

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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    July 27, 2009 at 5:58 pm
    "While it would not necessarily be as profitable(and aint that key to it all? isnt it sport?)"

    Yes. If I invest in Company X, then I don`t care about the starving children in some nation I can`t pronounce, I want a return on my investment.

    "At the end of the day, anyone getting paid 25m odd is doing so at some else`s expense and hard work... and undoubtedly at a great deal of other people`s expense."

    so you want to ignore the years of training it takes to get to that level? Or the amount their body is physically punished?

    The reason A-rod is paid to swing a bat at a ball is because no one else can do it like him. Right now I am qualified for the position of sweatshop worker. I am not qualified for New York Yankees Third Basemen.

    I say let the people who make the money decide what to do with it, they earned it.

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    bhedgehog Male 30-39
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    July 27, 2009 at 5:58 pm
    "I go on allowance. I get X amount of dollars and choose how to spend it."

    Regardless of what you do with it... it is still their money. Between you and them though you`ve just worked out a convenient way for them to dodge the bleating. Whether it`s for that shirt, shades or camera.

    I`m not having a go at YOU specifically, merely pointing out the situation that parents are in and the position they have in this system. They are complicit in their own exploitation, kids are dreadfully taken in by all these things... I don`t think any generation has been immune to it, mine certainly wasnt! Hell, we had kids flying to NY to get the first pair of Air Nikes back in the day for the first day of school! Absolute Craziness!

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    bhedgehog Male 30-39
    78 posts
    July 27, 2009 at 5:59 pm
    "they earned it"

    And that is the point... did they?

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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    July 27, 2009 at 6:03 pm
    ""they earned it"

    And that is the point... did they?"

    Go work out 6 hours a day for 10 years on the HOPE of becoming a professional athlete, and then tell me if they earned it.

    "the situation that parents are in and the position they have in this system."

    But thats what people want. They know that the material of the Jersey isn`t worth 230 dollars, its the name that makes it so expensive. But they chose to buy it. I don`t see why the athletes shouldn`t profit from that.

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    bhedgehog Male 30-39
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    July 27, 2009 at 6:05 pm
    "so you want to ignore the years of training it takes to get to that level? Or the amount their body is physically punished?"

    I`ll take this in two parts... training... training should be for the love of the game and glory of competition and success, what gets a marathon runner out of bed in the dead of winter? A pay check? And while application and training goes a long way, luck and natural ability are the key to excellence at that level, not training. There`s a oft quoted cliche in English football: "Form is temporary, class is permanent", training gives you form... talent, ability and luck define your class. Any self respecting sportsman will acknowledge this.

    As for the physical punishment... they are no different to the hundreds of millions of people who play sport every weekend throughout the world and meanwhile have teams of doctors and physios at every turn, they simply arent getting remunerated for this, don`t delude yourself on that.

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    bhedgehog Male 30-39
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    July 27, 2009 at 6:07 pm
    "I don`t see why the athletes shouldn`t profit from that."

    I actually agree on this... but don`t say they "earnt" it, that is not correct, they are profitting from it, that`s all.

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    bhedgehog Male 30-39
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    July 27, 2009 at 6:09 pm
    And $230 for a shirt.. really... as the Mayor in the Wire would say: "Sheeeeeeeeet!"

    That`s just wrong.

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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    July 27, 2009 at 6:09 pm
    "I`ll take this in two parts... training... training should be for the love of the game and glory of competition and success,"

    No one, and I mean no one, likes training. Everyone loves playing the game. A-rod doesn`t get paid 28 million to play for the yankees, he gets paid to train beforehand. Taking trips away from your family for months in the middle of spring, playing games that no one cares about is not fun, it just gets you better.

    "As for the physical punishment... they are no different to the hundreds of millions of people who play sport every weekend "

    I don`t think any of them have to worry about 100mph fastballs.

    "have teams of doctors and physios at every turn,"

    I would just like to point out that those docs are getting paid due to the players...and in essence they have jobs due to the players. Just sayin

  60. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    July 27, 2009 at 6:10 pm
    "And $230 for a shirt.. really... as the Mayor in the Wire would say: "Sheeeeeeeeet!""

    Thats for the Authentic ones players use. most people go for replicas which are 70. Or ebay has them for cheaper, I got a premier for 50

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    bhedgehog Male 30-39
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    July 27, 2009 at 6:19 pm
    "A-rod doesn`t get paid 28 million to play for the yankees, he gets paid to train beforehand"

    I`d be tempted to say, and I don`t know the US sportscene particularly well so I could be a little of whack on this - but even with the franchise format you guys use, it is defintely translatable. He is probably getting paid that money for the revenue potential he brings and to prevent him from taking that revenue elsewhere, ie: to the competing teams.

    "I don`t think any of them have to worry about 100mph fastballs." - just doesnt matter, a broken leg, sprained ankle or bruised arm still hurts just as much - whatever the reason for it. Usually the most damage comes from daft little things - like half hearted amateurs pulling out of tackles (I`m from a rugby background)... that is where most of the injuries happen.

    And your final point about the doctors... show me an out of work doctor and I`ll show you... err, err, just show me an out of work doctor!

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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    July 27, 2009 at 6:26 pm
    1) yes its technically to make sure they dont go to competing teams.But training/traveling/appearances, those are a pain in the ass. The salarys of players would be drastically cut if they didn`t have to do any of that. The game they love, the training for it they don`t.

    "just doesnt matter, a broken leg, sprained ankle or bruised arm still hurts just as much "

    buts its less likely to occur and often less serious. Muhammad Ali has Parkinsons from all the hits he took as a boxer. Not too many people can say they have that as a result of weekend sports.

    "And your final point about the doctors... show me an out of work doctor and I`ll show you... err, err, just show me an out of work doctor! "

    Ok maybe the doc was a bad example, but there are still thousands of other employers that depend on athletes.

    In the end, its business. The owner/players/everyone tries to profit as much as they possibly can. I see that no different than any other company, these are jus

  63. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    July 27, 2009 at 6:27 pm
    these are just more public. They bring in revenue for everyone, they deserve a share of it too. A-rods 28 million doesnt come close to the benefits he brings the city and the owner. If he wants to donate to charity then thats perfectly fine, if he doesn`t, same thing.


    He provides a service, and he gets the most money he can out of it. Just like anyone else who is employed (albeit on a much larger scale)

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    bhedgehog Male 30-39
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    July 27, 2009 at 6:28 pm
    "Taking trips away from your family for months in the middle of spring, playing games that no one cares about is not fun, it just gets you better."

    As a sports fan (first and foremost), of basically any sport (I draw the line at horse racing but will watch anything else - even the Superbowl!), I would be dubious about the dedication of a professional sportsman who didnt enjoy playing their sport. Time to give up when it becomes a job. I know there is big business and loadsamoney behind it, but when it stops being fun is time to stop doing it. The fans know and it`s only a matter of time.

    As one of your most enlightened countrymen once said: "Good evening, my name is Bill Hicks. I`ve been on the road now doing comedy twelve years, so, uh, bear with me while I plaster on a fake smile and plow through this poo one more time"

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    opiebreath Female 18-29
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    July 27, 2009 at 6:30 pm
    Too bad I have no toes, no depth perception, only one hand, bad knees, and generally no coordination.

    And that`s why I want to be a teacher. :)

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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    July 27, 2009 at 6:31 pm
    "Time to give up when it becomes a job. I know there is big business and loadsamoney behind it, but when it stops being fun is time to stop doing it. The fans know and it`s only a matter of time."

    But thats what it is, its a job.
    In the NFL 52 players make the cut. the last 10 get paid the minimum, 500k (not bad). The 53rd player, well he bags grocerys.

    I`m sure some doctors don`t want to be doctors, but what else can they do?

    Athletes have 10-15 years to make all the money they will in their lifetime.

    BTW, that quote was hilarious!

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    bhedgehog Male 30-39
    78 posts
    July 27, 2009 at 6:39 pm
    "buts its less likely to occur and often less serious."

    This just isnt the case, seriously, believe me. Just not the case at all. Maybe less likely because the individual play less often, but hospitals a&e`s are full of amateur sportsmen every weekend and take a look around any spinal injury wards - it`s all amateur sport and the odd motorcyclist (motorcyclists usually don`t survive which is why there aren`t quite so many).

    As for the Ali "thing"... god only knows about that and there but for the grace of god and all that. Michael J Fox didnt seem to get hit round the head too often on Family Ties.

    Cheers, Primetimekin, interesting hearing your views... still struggle to understand the $230 price tag, but I wouldn`t ever buy one and struggle to understand why anyone else would either. Over here, we`ve just had a £80m transfer in football go through for a player... and in total the contract is something ballastic like £250m, which is bizarre and i

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    primetimekin Male 18-29
    7936 posts
    July 27, 2009 at 6:50 pm
    "You`re not wrong, it is a business - but it`s OUR sport... should we allow these "pimps" to operate their "charges" like this? Like I say, it`s OUR sport. It`s a shame."

    Yes/no.

    Its the same way this is our website. If we stop coming here because...the font is too dark, then IAB will try to fix that. But its important to remember, we are essentially getting this service for free.

    The majority of the money for sports is through TV advertising. And the majority of the time thats free. Sure we can boycott them....but I don`t think its worth the fight. That soccer player got that amount of money, because in the end he is more profitable than that.

    I still say they earn what they make. The TV ratings and sales are proof of that

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    bhedgehog Male 30-39
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    July 27, 2009 at 6:51 pm
    which is bizarre and is entirely about shirt sales... little more. The difference between these "elite" athletes (from top to bottom - 1st to 52nd, if you like) is minimal... we`re talking 1%, 3% maybe (in team sports anyway) and that usually isnt reflected in the pay structures. It`s all about the shirts and third party deal... that`s what it is about here, anyway... not so much the game gates or competition prizes.
    You`re not wrong, it is a business - but it`s OUR sport... should we allow these "pimps" to operate their "charges" like this? Like I say, it`s OUR sport. It`s a shame - and like I say, it`s usually the parents of those kids that foot the bill.
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    primetimekin Male 18-29
    7936 posts
    July 27, 2009 at 6:51 pm
    and at least here in the US, there is a major difference from top to bottom. A-rod gets paid 28 million. There are minor leaguers that barely get 35k
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    primetimekin Male 18-29
    7936 posts
    July 27, 2009 at 6:52 pm
    .....why did my comment go under your comment...yours was before mine....

    stupid IAB hamster

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    bhedgehog Male 30-39
    78 posts
    July 27, 2009 at 7:05 pm
    To be fair, the Ronaldo deal is a little bit different and does highlight the differences between the US and European style of running sport, and even the difference between Spain and the rest of Europe to be fair... in fact, the difference between Real Madrid and the rest of the world(!)... and that sale, in particular, has all manner of politics and agendas behind it. (There`s a long story and no end of rumours around it).

    Suffice to say, they sold a ridiculous amount of shirts the day Ronaldo was unveiled.

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    bhedgehog Male 30-39
    78 posts
    July 27, 2009 at 7:06 pm
    "why did my comment go under your comment...yours was before mine"

    I wanted to add a final clause to my comment and deleted and re-wrote it... you must have gotten in there just before I posted.

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    nissanxterra Male 18-29
    425 posts
    July 27, 2009 at 7:07 pm
    holy crap
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    jadoig Male 30-39
    434 posts
    July 27, 2009 at 7:27 pm
    I think the reason the people who are surprised and outraged at this are surprised and outraged at this is they think we are paying these people to throw a ball or catch a ball or run fast. We are paying these people to entertain us, just as we pay movie stars the same salary.
    We are talking celebrities who, instead of being being really good at crying on command or making you laugh are really good at running and catching and throwing. We are paying them to sell t-shirts and razor blades and sports equipment.

    They are not merely people training and playing, they are salesmen, marketers, PR guys, spokesmen, heroes, showmen, motivational speakers.
    They are many things to many people and so we pay them the salaries of many.

    Having said all that, I think celebrity wealth is complete and total BS. Being a celebrity should be your reward for being a celebrity. Making that much money is unethical, but then many things that are unethical are supported by society. What can we do?<

  76. Profile photo of bhedgehog
    bhedgehog Male 30-39
    78 posts
    July 27, 2009 at 7:33 pm
    "What can we do?"

    I don`t support them or Manchester United, but you have admire the way they`ve gone about it and the reason for doing so...

    FC United

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    ElSombrero Male 13-17
    716 posts
    July 27, 2009 at 8:02 pm
    The world sucks

    Face it.

    Who`s more important, the guy who can throw a ball though a hoop, or the man who can save the other guy`s life?

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    soaperguy29 Male 18-29
    99 posts
    July 27, 2009 at 8:09 pm
    Athletes are paid so much because the sports entertainment industry brings in enough revenue to support these wages. Billions of people pay to go to baseball games every year, no one pays to go watch firemen put out a fire.
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    Dfaulted Male 13-17
    1920 posts
    July 27, 2009 at 9:06 pm
    wow but when you look at it the average its worse
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    Bard Male 18-29
    138 posts
    July 27, 2009 at 9:12 pm
    "wow but when you look at it the average its worse"

    umm. the lowest average on that chart of athletes is over twice that of the surgeon. Look at the numbers, not the height of the bars.

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    Critter13 Female 13-17
    34 posts
    July 27, 2009 at 10:06 pm
    "Who`s more important, the guy who can throw a ball though a hoop, or the man who can save the other guy`s life?"

    I vote the guy who can save my life. If I want to see someone throw a ball through a hoop I`ll go to seaworld.

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    xc313r4t0r Male 18-29
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    July 27, 2009 at 10:08 pm
    One day I`ll be an athlete....
  83. Profile photo of Hybrovi
    Hybrovi Male 18-29
    79 posts
    July 27, 2009 at 10:30 pm
    soaperguy29
    "Billions of people pay to go to baseball games every year, no one pays to go watch firemen put out a fire."

    Billions? Srsly? The US is the leading country in the world for baseball, and just over ten countries worldwide have baseball as a popular sport. The total population of all these countries doesn`t even add up to 700 million, so I`d personally like to know where you get this idea.

    But ya, the graph really isn`t that surprising considering that people are actually willing to pay ticket prices and buy so much paraphernalia from these jocks.

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    proof1221 Male 18-29
    690 posts
    July 27, 2009 at 10:51 pm
    2bad some of these guys are on steroids
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    alk3v Male 18-29
    341 posts
    July 27, 2009 at 11:50 pm
    It`s a shame they didn`t include football (soccer variety) players. For those that don`t know, Cristiano Ronaldo got a world record transfer of over 100 million US dollars this summer, and from what I remember the pay is on the order of hundreds of thousands of euros per month.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    July 27, 2009 at 11:50 pm
    Charts like these are made for the sole purpose of fostering class hatred and envy. Socialist propaganda, Basically.
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    fxliv Male 13-17
    46 posts
    July 28, 2009 at 1:04 am
    yeah..alk3v is right, football ( soccer for you US folks ) is the most popular sport on earth and these pays on the graph are very cheap compared to soccer players pays
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    Negative_One Male 30-39
    2584 posts
    July 28, 2009 at 2:01 am
    Oh so THAT`S what the rappers mean when they say, "Makin `A-Rod` Monneh"!
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    bintish Male 18-29
    64 posts
    July 28, 2009 at 2:26 am
    "It`s a shame they didn`t include football (soccer variety) players. For those that don`t know, Cristiano Ronaldo got a world record transfer of over 100 million US dollars this summer, and from what I remember the pay is on the order of hundreds of thousands of euros per month. " Try per week. He was on £95,000 before bonuses at Man Utd, now he`s on a lot more in Euros.
  90. Profile photo of kairobert
    kairobert Male 18-29
    1626 posts
    July 28, 2009 at 2:49 am
    "Charts like these are made for the sole purpose of fostering class hatred and envy. Socialist propaganda, Basically."

    And now you are badmouthing class struggle. You belong in the 14th century.

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    lukas1051 Male 18-29
    3428 posts
    July 28, 2009 at 4:20 am
    Yeah, none of these sports got anything on football (I refuse to call it soccer!), the pay for that is ridiculous.
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    VomitStorm Male 18-29
    97 posts
    July 28, 2009 at 4:55 am
    Money sucks

    i want more

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    Spirithound Male 18-29
    815 posts
    July 28, 2009 at 5:20 am
    "Who`s more important, the guy who can throw a ball though a hoop, or the man who can save the other guy`s life?"

    Depends on whether I need my life saved. If a triple bypass costs $10,000 (I have no idea, really), one person shells that out. To go to a Toronto Maple Leafs game, it`s $200. By my math, open-heart surgery seems 50 times more important than a Leafs game. Don`t blame the athletes that surgery isn`t a spectator sport.

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    Dooked Male 18-29
    517 posts
    July 28, 2009 at 6:11 am
    Ban those fuc***ing female asian spanners!!
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    Dooked Male 18-29
    517 posts
    July 28, 2009 at 6:11 am
    *spammers
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    jedimonk Male 18-29
    188 posts
    July 28, 2009 at 6:35 am
    I think it`s so cute when europeans try their darndest to hang on to their culture which will, as we all know, inevitably be swallowed up by the watered down, homogenized culture of the US. You keep truckin little man! *pats on head*
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    Itsalwysunny Male 18-29
    1377 posts
    July 28, 2009 at 6:36 am
    >lukas1051

    You refuse to call it soccer yet you spell it wrong??? futbol man cmon now you`re from Europe. and by the way go scousers LIVERPOOL FTW!!!!!!

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    StarDagger Male 40-49
    1189 posts
    July 28, 2009 at 7:12 am
    "Charts like these are made for the sole purpose of fostering class hatred and envy. Socialist propaganda, Basically."

    Facts are facts, there is a huge disparity of wealth. My question is why people refuse to admit it when facts are presented.

    Enjoy the end of capitalism!

    S*D

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    s0rd3dvis1on Male 18-29
    2389 posts
    July 28, 2009 at 7:24 am
    jedimonk excuuuuse me European culture has allways been known for its blandness anyhow we never really had anything interesting the only culture that was remotely worth considering dies with the invention of the cotton factory. But we fdo welcome alot of other cultures and can boast a wide range of these cultures playing a central part of our economy e.g food we have indian chinese cantonese, Britishin america you ussually just get a large hotdog or ribs covered in BBQ sauce we have that here aswell. We have many mosques and other particularly eastern designed building all around and deal in just about any sort of trade good we can get our hands on including dreamcatchers and alternative medicene has been embraced here quite readily aswell. but youre right we dont have much of our own culture left oh wait football and cricket.
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    rybo89 Male 18-29
    25 posts
    July 28, 2009 at 7:49 am
    >Itsalwysunny

    Right...i`m going to let you off because I`m a Liverpool fan as well...but lukas1051 DID spell football right. IN ENGLISH. i`m pretty sure futbol is German but I could be wrong...haven`t studied it for a few...many years

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    trilliongram Female 18-29
    135 posts
    July 28, 2009 at 7:58 am
    Holy crap Conneticut !! I`m frickin` moving there because me teaching salary in Texas isn`t nearly that.

    Also, spelling fail. We either need to pay our teachers more or less :/

  102. Profile photo of TheGax
    TheGax Male 18-29
    815 posts
    July 28, 2009 at 8:04 am
    it pays more to throw a little ball around, than to save lives... :/

    somebody give me a baseball, i want some money!!

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    tlshaman Male 13-17
    378 posts
    July 28, 2009 at 9:27 am
    so jacked up
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    Gn0m3 Male 18-29
    421 posts
    July 28, 2009 at 10:23 am
    futbol is some spanish language, like Portuguese or spanish..in German football is Fussball
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    lostinkorea Female 30-39
    3727 posts
    July 28, 2009 at 11:58 am
    I think it`s wrong too but you aren`t going to pay a surgeon perform surgery? But people will pay to see someone run a ball up and down a field.
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    vitaliy Male 18-29
    1669 posts
    July 28, 2009 at 1:30 pm
    Well hell, I`m gonna be a doctor, so I guess if I get good and go into private practice, I`ll be on the second page. Good enough for me.
  107. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
    7936 posts
    July 28, 2009 at 4:09 pm
    "I vote the guy who can save my life. If I want to see someone throw a ball through a hoop I`ll go to seaworld."

    Who brings in more revenue for his company? The Doctor or the Athlete?

    Quit drating venerating doctors, they do what they do for profit too.
    "well....it seems that you may have cancer...but we aren`t sure (we actually know you have it), come back in 2 weeks (I have a vacation to europe), and we will get further test done (see how to raise your premiums on your health insurance).

    "it pays more to throw a little ball around, than to save lives... :/

    somebody give me a baseball, i want some money!!"

    work out everyday of your life since you are 10 for 6 hours a day and then you MIGHT have a shot (albeit a slim one)

  108. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
    7936 posts
    July 28, 2009 at 4:12 pm
    why is it so damn hard to understand that your income is based on value?

    An Athlete brings in more revenue than a doctor does....a few doctors are hired FOR athletes.

    and once again...doctors arent drating charity either, they don`t save lifes, they charge an arm and a leg to keep them running for a few more years

  109. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
    7936 posts
    July 28, 2009 at 4:21 pm
    and btw, out of all surgeons, plastic surgeons make the most so they can go suck a disco stick dammit!
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    albanach Female 18-29
    57 posts
    July 28, 2009 at 4:27 pm
    ouch...
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    shunpo_31 Male 18-29
    1381 posts
    July 28, 2009 at 6:08 pm
    i don`t understand why this is depressing. it looks like i`ll be making more than the lawyers here.
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    firefliet Female 18-29
    1233 posts
    July 28, 2009 at 7:04 pm
    I wonder how athletes got to that pay scale in the first place... I`m thinking that it must have come after radio / television, but I might be wrong.

    Both doctors and athletes have to do years of intensive training, but doctors have to pay for all those years of college tuition, whereas athletes (usually) get it free. Doctors fulfill a need in society, whereas athletes fulfill a want.

    Prime does have a point though, that most doctors nowadays are in the business for the money and not the lulz. Though, who can say athletes are any different, really...?

  113. Profile photo of tuxman4
    tuxman4 Male 13-17
    368 posts
    July 28, 2009 at 8:51 pm
    Man Jesus only made 41,000 a year, poor guy.
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    Newtsquirrel Male 13-17
    19 posts
    July 29, 2009 at 7:32 pm
    Nice Tuxman4, xD
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    MetalicDemon Male 18-29
    1485 posts
    July 30, 2009 at 7:45 am
    im boned for life.......
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    appjoe Male 30-39
    56 posts
    July 31, 2009 at 9:50 pm
    and everytime you have a bad day at the office or workplace you get a million people tearing you to pieces or a 1000 articles telling you where you went wrong
    if the marketplace dictates that you are worth what A-Rod gets then you are entitled to get it.
    an athelete is only worth what someone is prepared to pay for them
  117. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
    7936 posts
    August 6, 2009 at 3:40 pm
    "I vote the guy who can save my life. If I want to see someone throw a ball through a hoop I`ll go to seaworld."

    Who brings in more revenue for his company? The Doctor or the Athlete?

    Quit drating venerating doctors, they do what they do for profit too.
    "well....it seems that you may have cancer...but we aren`t sure (we actually know you have it), come back in 2 weeks (I have a vacation to europe), and we will get further test done (see how to raise your premiums on your health insurance).

    "it pays more to throw a little ball around, than to save lives... :/

    somebody give me a baseball, i want some money!!"

    work out everyday of your life since you are 10 for 6 hours a day and then you MIGHT have a shot (albeit a slim one)

  118. Profile photo of hknuddv
    hknuddv Male 13-17
    72 posts
    August 9, 2009 at 1:44 am
    European footballers =£$£$£$£££

    £50000000 (£50million a year) thats like $75000000

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    JoeJordan Male 18-29
    233 posts
    April 3, 2010 at 9:04 am
    F*****g ridiculous :S

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