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119 Responses to Man Beaten Over Rape, Released From Hospital

  1. Profile photo of LittleMissQT
    LittleMissQT Female 18-29
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    June 4, 2009 at 4:34 pm
    Link: Man Beaten Over Rape, Released From Hospital - This man had the poo beaten out of him by an angry mob out for revenge. I-A-B QUESTION: Is street justice ever OK?
  2. Profile photo of DaSheezy
    DaSheezy Male 13-17
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    June 4, 2009 at 6:04 pm
    YES!!! TRUE JUSTICE
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    caboose117 Male 13-17
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    June 4, 2009 at 6:04 pm
    lolololol that was at philly. my mom was wholesaling t shirts to that grocery store on her weekly run to that place right after the crowd beat up the man....

    of course, none of you will believe me about this because it`s the internet. but maybe somebody will have faith, maybe.

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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    June 4, 2009 at 6:06 pm
    street justice is at times better than legal justice
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    caboose117 Male 13-17
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    June 4, 2009 at 6:09 pm
    The only problem i see with street justice is that sometimes it`s not justice. What if someone wasn`t guilty? i mean clearly this man was, but what if?
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    MrsBren Female 18-29
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    June 4, 2009 at 6:11 pm
    HELL YES!! Guy rapes an eleven year old...poo!! I`d chop his dick off and feed it to him!
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    firegodzilla Male 18-29
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    June 4, 2009 at 6:11 pm
    "street justice is at times better than legal justice"

    I agree, and this was one of those times

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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    June 4, 2009 at 6:12 pm
    A question for DaSheezy, primetimekin and no doubt others:

    Would you bin the whole idea of a legal system?

    It`s a serious question. Given your stated views, you must think that a legal system is a complete waste of public money. No need for things such as trials. They just waste public money.

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    ShadowRyder Male 18-29
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    June 4, 2009 at 6:13 pm
    F*ck yeah he deserved it! Every motherf*cking person like this bitch deserves to get the sh*t beat out of them and then be lit on fire.
  10. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    June 4, 2009 at 6:17 pm
    "Would you bin the whole idea of a legal system?"

    No...but how many systems are fool-proof? There are times when you need to take matters into your own hands, rape would definitely be one of them

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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    June 4, 2009 at 6:18 pm
    I think the classic modern example of "street justice" is the attack on a paediatrician`s home by a mob that didn`t understand the difference between `paediatrician` and `paedophile`. It was only luck that they weren`t at home at the time.

    That`s what you get with "street justice". Those of you who are so eager to abandon the rule of law and replace it with violence-loving mobs should be aware that violence-loving mobs love violence. The point isn`t justice. The point is an excuse to batter and murder people and get away with it, and that is what will happen. Maybe to you. Maybe to someone you care about.

  12. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    June 4, 2009 at 6:20 pm
    "No...but how many systems are fool-proof? There are times when you need to take matters into your own hands, rape would definitely be one of them"

    You advocate battering people who haven`t even been arrested for rape, let alone tried and found guilty.

    So you are advocating binning the entire legal system. You`re just not being honest about it.

  13. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    June 4, 2009 at 6:24 pm
    "You advocate battering people who haven`t even been arrested for rape, let alone tried and found guilty.

    So you are advocating binning the entire legal system. You`re just not being honest about it."

    The legal system isn`t always justice.

  14. Profile photo of Lamchop
    Lamchop Male 18-29
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    June 4, 2009 at 6:28 pm
    Batman,Ironman, Superman are all out there... beating the living tar out of some people... and all of you are just standing around watching and applauding them... FOR SHAME. Definitly kidding but i`m sure you people understand what im trying to say? Its a total grey area in terms of street justice. Sometimes it`s great, other times not so great, but in this situation... Crucify the person.
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    osirisascend Male 40-49
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    June 4, 2009 at 6:29 pm
    West Philly... REPRESENT!

    All things considered, vigilantism is a double-edged sword. In this case it worked out for the vigilantes involved.

    I agree with some of the posters here that justice was served, but I agree with some reservations.

    In this case, they got the guy who was responsible for vile and revolting crime and exacted some street justice without killing him. In this case they were lucky that they didn`t kill him, just beat him so bad he was hospitalized for two days. It could have easily gone too far, and we`d be looking at several people charged with Manslaughter at the very least.

    The criminal justice system in the U.S. is flawed, but it`s a decent system, that seems to work... most of the time.

    Consider the fact that any decent lawyer is a master of the technicality, and police officers not doing their job by the book are the main reason for many acquittals.

    Double-edged sword. Personally, I`m glad the guy got his ass beat.

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    SanityInsane Female 18-29
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    June 4, 2009 at 6:42 pm
    Honestly, vigilantism can`t be encouraged or else we`d have anarchy on our hands. The system is deeply flawed, but it`s necessary.

    That said, I train in various forms of self-defense, martial arts, and street fighting and if someone raped someone I care about I`d be the first one with a weapon in my hand. And if something happened to me, I know whoever did me in would get the same treatment from others and I see a sense of justice in that. I`ve seen too many rapists and abusers go free to want to leave it entirely in the hands of the court system.

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    kevinmiller0 Male 18-29
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    June 4, 2009 at 6:43 pm
    Vigilante justice is always a good thing.
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    dairy Male 18-29
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    June 4, 2009 at 6:43 pm
    shouldnt ever be an excuse for this, or any mob seeking revenge for a crime that didnt involve them. even if it was a mob made up of the victims family and friends it is intolerable. otherwise there is no point in even having a detailed and carefully organised and system of laws that, whilst not always be fully observed in a just way, with police abusing their power and having good governmental protection and lawyers working for criminals who should be left to serve a long sentence in prison or executed, is in itself fundamentally just. It there was no possibility of a mob ever going too far and killing a criminal, then it MIGHT be slight bit defensible, but since that is impossible, it is and would still be an abominable thing
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    Pindragon Male 18-29
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    June 4, 2009 at 6:45 pm
    If he is guilty of the rape. He deserves far worse than a beating.

    Who knows? Maybe one of the people beating the sh!!!t out of him had hard core proof he did it.

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    Nidonemo Male 18-29
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    June 4, 2009 at 6:48 pm
    Well...it`s a lot different than the stories of girls getting raped in the middle of the street in broad daylight and no one helping...
  21. Profile photo of opiebreath
    opiebreath Female 18-29
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    June 4, 2009 at 6:52 pm
    Street justice can go way too far way too fast. Not necessarily in this case, but in many others...
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    Squidbush Male 40-49
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    June 4, 2009 at 7:07 pm
    Everyone that thinks this mob justice good idea had better HOPE TO GOD you are never accused of anything like this. It doesn`t matter whether you are innocent to an angry mob, all that matters is you were accused.
    Have fun!
  23. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    June 4, 2009 at 7:07 pm
    "The legal system isn`t always justice."

    True. Also a non sequitor. Imperfections in a complex system are not proof that it needs to be abandoned completely.

    Did you really intend to argue that vigilantes beating people they have decided are guilty of a crime is always justice?

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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    June 4, 2009 at 7:09 pm
    "Vigilante justice is always a good thing."

    Like witch hunts and lynchings. Obviously good things. Street justice, yeah!

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    Leiaisluf Female 13-17
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    June 4, 2009 at 7:12 pm
    "Like witch hunts and lynchings. Obviously good things. Street justice, yeah!"

    Pff. Lynching is so 1950s. Let`s go build a barricade, m`kay?

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    oceanbeast Male 18-29
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    June 4, 2009 at 7:15 pm
    as i see it laws, ethics, and morals have been leaving american society for a long time. im just stockpiling weapons, ammo, and mre`s for when the civil war hits. i can`t wait for fully automatic assault rifles are legal so i can just buy them instead of importing them through colombia.

    vigilante justice maybe wrong but rapists got whatever happens to them coming.

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    Angua13 Female 18-29
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    June 4, 2009 at 7:25 pm
    I don`t believe in mob justice. It`s the same thing as the witch hunts. There is too much of a chance an innocent person will get beaten or worst case killed. As a society we are sheep and get very wrapped up in the moment for good and for bad.
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    sumguyin267 Male 18-29
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    June 4, 2009 at 7:31 pm
    Woooo South Philly here!! City of Brotherly love =P
  29. Profile photo of Tdogg111
    Tdogg111 Male 13-17
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    June 4, 2009 at 7:32 pm
    to all the mob bashers out there:

    alright, i can totally understand. vigilante justice isnt necessarilly a positive thing, especially when the person may or may not be guilty.


    But think about it this way. If your own daughter was raped, and you saw the guy who most likely did it walk down the street, wouldnt you want revenge? Wouldnt you be so filled with anger that you would try and beat the poo outta the guy who hurt your daughter, before the legal system kicks in and you dont get your chance before he goes off to jail?

    Im sure thats how these people were feeling. THey wanted there own personal revenge on this man before he had a chance to get away from them

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    frumgf Female 18-29
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    June 4, 2009 at 7:35 pm
    That mob fails. They should have chopped his wiener off.
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    ammit13fma Male 18-29
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    June 4, 2009 at 7:47 pm
    woot mob justice, but where were the stones?
  32. Profile photo of osirisascend
    osirisascend Male 40-49
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    June 4, 2009 at 7:47 pm
    I`ll be damned.

    dairy and I are actually on the same side of the fence on a subject.

    Truly, this is a sign of the Apocalypse.

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    Lionhart2 Male 40-49
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    June 4, 2009 at 7:48 pm
    "Is street justice ever OK?"

    ABSO-FING-LUTELY! What else you gonna do, wait for the police to investigate, charge, negotiate a plea with a high-price solicitor, then get 8 month sentence (less time already served), out in 5 for good behaviour, for raping someone`s sister or mother? The more street justice the better, say I.

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    DavioMagnifi Male 13-17
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    June 4, 2009 at 7:49 pm
    Street Justice is ALWAYS ok.
    I mean, ask yourself. What would /b/ do?
  35. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    June 4, 2009 at 7:49 pm
    "Imperfections in a complex system are not proof that it needs to be abandoned completely."

    True, also straw man argument/false dichotomy.

    I never suggested it should be abandoned completely, but their are times when it should be ignored. OJ Simpson shouldnt have gotten away with murder, The police officers who beat Rodney King should not have been acquitted, and this man should`ve been beaten.

  36. Profile photo of DavioMagnifi
    DavioMagnifi Male 13-17
    600 posts
    June 4, 2009 at 7:50 pm
    "Like witch hunts and lynchings. Obviously good things. Street justice, yeah!"

    Majority rules b**ches

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    Lockon Male 18-29
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    June 4, 2009 at 7:52 pm
    "I mean, ask yourself. What would /b/ do?"

    Fap to CP.

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    freddyferret Male 40-49
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    June 4, 2009 at 7:53 pm
    shouldnt ever be an excuse for this, or any mob seeking revenge for a crime that didnt involve them. even if it was a mob made up of the victims family and friends it is intolerable.

    I agree with the first sentence but I can`t say I agree with the last one. I GUARANTEE you that if anyone did that to MY daughters I`d be all over them like stink on poo. They`d be begging for death. Not that it`s right, but it would happen either way. I have zero tolerance for rapists and child molesters.

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    earthshone Male 18-29
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    June 4, 2009 at 7:55 pm
    some people deserve to get beat.

    #1 rapists / child molesters


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    Dextrine Male 18-29
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    June 4, 2009 at 8:09 pm
    Either try to kill everyone you meet, or try to keep yourself from killing everyone you meet.
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    GothicQueen Male 13-17
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    June 4, 2009 at 8:13 pm
    I don`t think it`s right at all. People have no business taking the law into their own hands like that. I don`t think it`s right. Even if it was my child I would hope that I had the strength in my heart to just let it go once the person had been jailed and not do anything drastic.
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    emptyXinside Female 13-17
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    June 4, 2009 at 8:21 pm
    My teacher was talking about this with my english class, and a guy in my class laughed:[
  43. Profile photo of punkipenguin
    punkipenguin Female 18-29
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    June 4, 2009 at 8:26 pm
    people say let the courts decide his punishment - what if the guy never gets a conviction, walks free? would you still say it`s not okay to beat his ass then? he deserved it, you don`t ever harm a child in any way for any reason.

    an inmate in indiana was convicted of raping and murdering a little girl named katie. the other inmates pinned him down and carved KATIE`S REVENGE into his forhead. no one was upset about it because he`s the lowest type of scum. when people in prison for murder think what you do is unforgivable, you know you`re a bad person and deserve every bad thing possible to happen to you.

  44. Profile photo of Will-O-Wisp
    Will-O-Wisp Female 18-29
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    June 4, 2009 at 8:30 pm
    I-A-B QUESTION: Is street justice ever OK?
    ANSWER: Yep. I wouldn`t stop `em, knowing what the man did.
  45. Profile photo of opiebreath
    opiebreath Female 18-29
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    June 4, 2009 at 8:31 pm
    Punki, does that justify all street vigilante situations?
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    britt566 Female 18-29
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    June 4, 2009 at 8:35 pm
    They should have raped him after they beat him.

    If someone needs to get their ass beat because of something they did (like, i don`t know.. rape an 11 year old girl?) , they are going to get their ass beat whether the law wants it or not.

  47. Profile photo of SilverThread
    SilverThread Male 30-39
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    June 4, 2009 at 8:51 pm
    I`m sure most of you that know me, can guess where I stand on *this* issue, though I don`t apply the same logic to every issue with the predictability of a script.

    Each set of circumstances carries it`s own particular dynamic and certainly a society as large and diverse as ours requires adherence and an evenhanded approach to justice. I think it also requires some understanding and I believe the Police Force understands in this case that the mob was acting in self defense on behalf of society as a whole.

    For example Zina Linnik would still be alive today if *MY* approach were applied to people like her Murderer. Consider that. The man was a convicted sex offender and in my opinion should have been executed outright for his actions.

    Instead the bleeding hearts had pity on him. In my opinion they are as guilty of the death of Zina as the man that strangled her.

    The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

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    chillimac Male 18-29
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    June 4, 2009 at 8:55 pm
    did they use fire? ohhh i hope they used fire...
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    Bored2Run Female 18-29
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    June 4, 2009 at 8:57 pm
    Well said SilverThread
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    teph2112 Male 13-17
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    June 4, 2009 at 9:03 pm
    So I see lynch mobs are still in Philadelphia
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    ryan99 Male 13-17
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    June 4, 2009 at 9:03 pm
    He raped an 11 year old, he deserved to gget beaten, a dozen people trying to kill him is a bit overkill.

    LOL, Britt. First line is the best.

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    punkipenguin Female 18-29
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    June 4, 2009 at 9:09 pm
    opie - if it`s obvious the person is guilty and they somehow still walk, yes. just my opinion.

    this is a local story to back up my reasoning; i can`t find anything about this on-line, but i will keep searching and if i find anything will post it to prove i`m not talking out of my ass.

    a woman was tortured to death. the guy and woman who did this were dating - he used to date the victim and wanted revenge on her for leaving him. later the new girlfriend got mad at him and turned him in in exchange for not being charged. she testified, it was obvious he was guilty, but the jury gave a not guilty verdict because they wanted to go home for christmas. when he sold his house, the new owners found polaroids of the torture murder and turned them in, but he couldn`t be tried due to the double jeopardy rule. they tied her to a glass coffee table while they killed her. not long ago the guy who killed her was found dead - someone put him through a glass coffee table. justice at last.

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    Jerm_Leather Male 18-29
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    June 4, 2009 at 9:21 pm
    The answer is YES. Sometimes justice needs to be exacted by those that are not tied by judicial. or beurocratic red tape.
    Case in point: Back in 1998 some scumbag gave 3 14 and 15 year old girls a bunch of GHB and they nearly died from an overdose. As the amubulances were taking them away the entire population of people (roughly 160) at a weekly music festival chased the guy down and beat him severely. That is what I call justice.

    I completely agree with LionHart2. People like that don`t deserve a trial, just brutal punishment.

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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    June 4, 2009 at 9:28 pm
    Street justice IS OKAY! so grab your superhero costume and clean the streets!


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    Olk Male 18-29
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    June 4, 2009 at 9:31 pm
    "the new owners found polaroids of the torture murder and turned them in, but he couldn`t be tried due to the double jeopardy rule."

    but thats new evidence, he could be retried on new evidence, couldnt he?

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    snottydyck Male 40-49
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    June 4, 2009 at 9:33 pm
    obama would appoligize to him.
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    osirisascend Male 40-49
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    June 4, 2009 at 9:54 pm
    @ punkipenguin: I am familiar with the story you paraphrased. You`re talking about Mel Ignatow.

    The phrase "someone put him through a glass coffee table" is not entirely accurate. The evidence points to an accidental fall onto a glass coffee table in his own home, which shattered, cutting him severely. He bled to death as a result of his wounds.


    You can find that story here.

  58. Profile photo of punkipenguin
    punkipenguin Female 18-29
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    June 4, 2009 at 9:56 pm
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Ignatow

    that`s the story, i couldn`t remember any names at first. obviously i got some of the details wrong, and this article doesn`t give as much detail as word of mouth/people close to the story here, but you get the idea. the article doesn`t state that he was intentionally throw through the coffee table, but things like that are sometimes twisted a bit.

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    Crawdaddy197 Male 30-39
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    June 4, 2009 at 9:58 pm
    As much as I`d like it to be, street justice is not OK.
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    Crawdaddy197 Male 30-39
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    June 4, 2009 at 10:00 pm
    Let me rephrase that. If a person walks on a technicality, and you absolutely know beyond a shadow of a doubt they are guilty, I`ll be the first in line to enact street justice.
  61. Profile photo of punkipenguin
    punkipenguin Female 18-29
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    June 4, 2009 at 10:02 pm
    osirisascend, you beat me to it. :)

    i know it`s not actually proven he was thrown through a coffee table, but that`s what i`ve heard since i was a child, from literally everyone, so that`s what i tend to believe. i`ve also heard a very few times that it was an accident. accident seems more likely, but as i said i`ve heard revenge my whole life, so that`s what i tend to believe for whatever reason. i shouldn`t have passed my opinion as fact. i actually had fogetten about this case until this post though, so my recollection wasn`t entirely clear. ;-/ sorry for the confusion. and thanks for helping me out with finding the story.

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    Neagle Male 30-39
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    June 4, 2009 at 10:10 pm
    "There is a time and place for everything....." This man is true evil and society must be on watch for this sick waste of flesh. This peccant soul will never rest both in life and death. The pictures do not lie.
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    White_Wolfos Female 18-29
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    June 4, 2009 at 10:22 pm
    Hey - if a lion is trying to rape a baby elephant, all the other elephants gang up on the lion and show it who`s boss.
    Why can`t humans be just as badass?
    As far as I`m concerned, that guy deserved it and more. :|
  64. Profile photo of CBFLATLINE
    CBFLATLINE Male 40-49
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    June 4, 2009 at 10:22 pm
    STREET JUSTICE...

    PROOVE THE GUILT FIRST!!!

    If the person is assumed guilty and there is no evidence then he must be set free. If he is assumed innocent and found guilty then he must go to jail. More of the guilty will be let go than innocent; But isn`t this the way it`s supposed to work?

    There was no proof that this man was guilty (according to the article) other that one person yelling out, "there he is!!!"

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    attacklax13 Male 13-17
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    June 4, 2009 at 11:02 pm
    so the people who hospitalized him get no charge?
    hmmmmmmm seems to me that things are a little out of whack in Philly...
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    Zerocyde Male 18-29
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    June 4, 2009 at 11:07 pm
    I think street justice is awesome. We`ve progressed far enough as a species, too far I think. Robots on mars? Pfft, witchcraft. I think street justice is just the thing we need to set us back a few hundred years.
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    Groogle Male 30-39
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    June 4, 2009 at 11:10 pm
    If the guy try to run away when police is searching for him even after some people asked him to go to the police ( I presume they found out that he was wanted on TV or something ) then the guy deserve a beating.

    Don`t let criminals or even potential criminals run away.

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    boredfjord Male 13-17
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    June 4, 2009 at 11:31 pm
    Street justice is a terrible way for any society to function.

    The point of sentencing criminals isn`t to punish them or to give the "what they deserve." It`s to prevent repeat offenses and to show that the rule of law will be enforced. In my opinion.

    The justice system shouldn`t be based on emotions. How you feel is irrelevant. I know how angry rape makes us, but we can`t let that emotion control us and make us disintegrate into a vengeful mob.

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    MikeW Male 30-39
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    June 4, 2009 at 11:37 pm
    And then a few weeks later someone completely different confesses to the crime... <crickets>

    There is a reason we have a judicial system.

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    PreoSmo Female 18-29
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    June 4, 2009 at 11:44 pm
    I think rapists should die a slow, painful death. I have no sympathy for this guy.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    June 4, 2009 at 11:50 pm
    I believe rapists and pedophiles should be given the death penalty. However, Two wrongs don`t make a right. "Vigilante Justice" is an oxymoron.
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    jinxiejae Female 30-39
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    June 4, 2009 at 11:50 pm
    i dont condone mob mentality and street justice, that being said i sure as hell dont feel sorry for him. what goes around comes around.
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    Animecha Male 18-29
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    June 5, 2009 at 12:37 am
    Vigilante justice is chaos, so I in no way condone it. However that won`t stop me from enjoying the imagining that guys teeth being beaten into his mouth. He deserved it, and personally I will secretly wish that this isn`t that last time this happens to him.
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    maceizballin Male 13-17
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    June 5, 2009 at 12:41 am
    rape is severe. if raped someone close to me, he wouldn`t have made it to the hospital.
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    Mani-Jac Male 40-49
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    June 5, 2009 at 12:54 am
    If you rape an 11 year old girl, you can`t be beaten enough....

    They should have kneecapped him and cut off his balls, fed them to him, while having removed his nails, after his eyes were spooned out......

    You get the idea, right ?

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    taitano Male 30-39
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    June 5, 2009 at 1:14 am
    I do not believe Vigilante is Justice. But, in this case, it is the lesser of two evils.

    Even if they got the wrong guy, and he wasn`t the culprit, well, if it were me, I`d understand and buy the mob a drink to celebrate not being the guy they thought I was and salute their willingness to step up.

    Though, in this case, it sounds like he`s probably the guy. Even the officers were saying the mob was justified.

  77. Profile photo of Khronnus
    Khronnus Male 18-29
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    June 5, 2009 at 1:35 am
    maceizballin - Lets face it` you`re 13-17 I don`t think you`ve got much chance of stopping him. Though I am in two minds. We`ve got our own punishments for this, beating him will just get yourself into trouble. Wait for him to be sent away, then wait for the inmates to get him.
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    mehh Female 18-29
    528 posts
    June 5, 2009 at 1:42 am
    Khronnus: They didn`t get in trouble. The police just basically okayed vigilantes
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    lostinkorea Female 30-39
    3727 posts
    June 5, 2009 at 1:49 am
    He raped an innocent 11 year old while on her way to school...there isn`t enough punishment in the world for him. If I had a daughter and she was raped, I would CASTRATE him. This is about power and preying on the weak; not to mention a lack of self control. That girl will have to deal with this to the day she dies, his bruises will eventually heal!
  80. Profile photo of TopperHey
    TopperHey Male 18-29
    1930 posts
    June 5, 2009 at 1:50 am
    According to the report, related forensics was at the scene of the crime and he was a "person of interest". If that`s all the attackers knew, that really isn`t enough to go around beating people up. He hasn`t even been charged.

    If however the community really did *know* that he did it, and weren`t just being OMG BURN PEDO!!! then I can`t really argue against their actions.

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    TopperHey Male 18-29
    1930 posts
    June 5, 2009 at 1:52 am
    Oh and note the amount of people on here who have automatically assumed he`s guilty even though, as I mentioned, they haven`t even charged him.
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    MikeW Male 30-39
    137 posts
    June 5, 2009 at 1:53 am
    Yes, rape is severe. Sentencing a man to death is also severe.

    All we really have to go on is that the man is "wanted for questioning". Yet the I-A-B mob is screaming for 7-cent justice. The girl might not have even been raped, for all we know. This is why vigilante justice is illegal.

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    ace_musicdj Male 18-29
    33 posts
    June 5, 2009 at 3:08 am
    i would bite his dick off... wat the mob did was absolutely correct. Only when punishments become brutal and severe will crime rate go down...
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    Reignblazer Male 18-29
    2334 posts
    June 5, 2009 at 3:23 am
    "An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind" ^^
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    littlepete50 Male 18-29
    1358 posts
    June 5, 2009 at 3:37 am
    she was 11. In prison, those who have harmed children are at the bottom of the food chain. Its just against all, western ethical teachings and moral systems. He brought it upon himself
  86. Profile photo of Shadowbright
    Shadowbright Female 18-29
    1 post
    June 5, 2009 at 3:51 am

    "The girl might not have even been raped, for all we know."

    What, the eleven-year-old decided to stop for a quick shag on the way to school? She just found him so goddamned sexy she jumped him right there? (After putting down her Cinderella backpack and matching lunchbox, of course.)

    Look, I`m not going to dispute the fact that vigilante justice often isn`t, but saying "we don`t even know if she was raped" was just dumb and sounded a bit like "blame the victim."

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    Devi3000 Female 18-29
    1497 posts
    June 5, 2009 at 3:57 am
    Work with police??? WORK WITH POLICE! LOL! A woman in the office next door to me was raped by a man four years ago and they had a warrant out for his arrest. He fled the state, changed his name, then MOVED back. She saw him working at a bar and called the police. They did nothing. She called the DA, NOTHING!
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    britt566 Female 18-29
    2290 posts
    June 5, 2009 at 3:58 am
    Even if she was willing.

    Ever heard of Statutory Rape?

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    loughton22 Female 18-29
    143 posts
    June 5, 2009 at 4:16 am
    This cannot be condoned. The law cannot be different for different people. Saying this is ok, is saying that anyone can go beat on any suspect for any crime that they feel like. The law doesn’t always serve justice in everyone eyes, though it is in place for a reason. You can’t fight violence with more violence.
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    Kaleotera Female 18-29
    472 posts
    June 5, 2009 at 5:17 am
    I hate to sound cynical, but that beating is going to be the least of his problems. If/when he goes to prison...well hes gonna be someones bitch by the days end. Prison inmates have a strange moral code...and it`s not alright to harm women and children. At least thats what I`ve been told.
  91. Profile photo of nodwar
    nodwar Male 18-29
    13 posts
    June 5, 2009 at 5:17 am
    i dont think this kind of justice should be ok. If he hasn`t been charged that means even the police with forensic teams don`t even have enough evidence. Kicking the crap out of someone who the police wanted to question is a good indicator why vigilante justice is not allowed.
    Although if the was my kid, I`d probably be doing the same, so im just a hypocrite.
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    laxdef36 Male 18-29
    171 posts
    June 5, 2009 at 6:09 am
    haha.. he`s going to be cautious where ever he goes now.
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    Willowpuff Female 18-29
    2220 posts
    June 5, 2009 at 6:10 am
    Two wrongs don`t make a right - But it sure as hell makes you feel better.
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    QH_girl Female 18-29
    99 posts
    June 5, 2009 at 6:13 am
    While I think such criminals are scum and deserve the worst, at the same time, street violence isn`t exactly helping the girl, and probably not teaching the guy a lesson. Then again, he was still walking free on the street, at least the mob drew attention and media awareness to the case.
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    Oystah Female 40-49
    4032 posts
    June 5, 2009 at 6:26 am
    The only thing that has me on the fence here is that he may not have committed the crime. If, however, he did, beat away angry mob. Beat away. Anyone who harms a child should be taken out of society permanently whether by execution or life in prison.
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    Overmann Male 18-29
    2600 posts
    June 5, 2009 at 7:38 am
    Trick question: "street justice" isn`t justice, but revenge.
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    a1butcher Male 40-49
    4809 posts
    June 5, 2009 at 7:52 am
    Ha HA, that was funny!!!!
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    vicious_liar Male 13-17
    1226 posts
    June 5, 2009 at 8:10 am
    "Two wrongs don`t make a right - But it sure as
    hell makes you feel better."

    AHAHA :D exactly! I always think like that, revenge isn`t right, but I EFFING WANT IT ANYWAY.

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    chillimac Male 18-29
    438 posts
    June 5, 2009 at 8:19 am
    "You can’t fight violence with more violence."

    OF COURSE YOU CAN! aside from being effective, its VERY satisfying. just pick your targets carefully.

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    ferdyfred Male 40-49
    13631 posts
    June 5, 2009 at 8:45 am
    "You can’t fight violence with more violence."

    Um, thats what Bush and Blair did

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    Quackor Male 18-29
    2856 posts
    June 5, 2009 at 8:50 am
    now he can rape anyone associated with his beating guilt-free.

    if there is proof he did it he will pay according to the justice system, so, it was unfair to beat him, so he can have his revenge, just as the mob did, so rape away mr rapist!

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    Shadow_Wolf Male 18-29
    19 posts
    June 5, 2009 at 9:58 am
    Honestly Khronnus, size/age doesn`t matter much, maybe in a one-on-one match-up it would, but a knife in the dark or a shot to the head works just as good when your 13 as it does when your 30. Guns make all men equal, and a stealth kill, while considered `dishonorable`, is no less effective.
  103. Profile photo of The-Sentinel
    The-Sentinel Male 18-29
    1149 posts
    June 5, 2009 at 11:23 am
    ""You can’t fight violence with more violence."

    Um, thats what Bush and Blair did"

    yea, and look how that turned out *eye roll*

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    Kalimdon Male 18-29
    114 posts
    June 5, 2009 at 11:44 am
    Isnt that how Fred Kreuger was created??
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    primetimekin Male 18-29
    7935 posts
    June 5, 2009 at 12:57 pm
    ""An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind" ^^"

    Well there would be 4 pairs of eyes so it would only make the world 50% blind.

    Not to mention that the person who is out poking eyes still has 100% eyesight while the victim is down to 50%, now that doesnt seem fair now does it?

  106. Profile photo of Tasoli
    Tasoli Male 18-29
    56 posts
    June 5, 2009 at 3:08 pm
    "Well there would be 4 pairs of eyes so it would only make the world 50% blind."

    It`s like this: I take your eye, so you take my eye in retaliation. Then I retaliate against you for taking my eye and take your last eye, leaving you angry and wanting revenge, so you take my last eye. You can extrapolate this into a group setting where there are multiple people on each side, leaving the entire world blind.

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    Miss_Candie Female 13-17
    260 posts
    June 5, 2009 at 3:18 pm
    I just hope that he`s really the rapist.
  108. Profile photo of SilverThread
    SilverThread Male 30-39
    3431 posts
    June 5, 2009 at 5:59 pm
    Ohh wait, I thought the mob attacked a Therapist. My bad...

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    nuxnixy12 Male 13-17
    15 posts
    June 5, 2009 at 7:55 pm
    ""Well there would be 4 pairs of eyes so it would only make the world 50% blind."

    It`s like this: I take your eye, so you take my eye in retaliation. Then I retaliate against you for taking my eye and take your last eye, leaving you angry and wanting revenge, so you take my last eye. You can extrapolate this into a group setting where there are multiple people on each side, leaving the entire world blind. "

    And you can try to take my eye while your blind.

  110. Profile photo of IONIC
    IONIC Male 18-29
    163 posts
    June 5, 2009 at 8:25 pm
    ya, nuxnixy12 is right. And lets not forget, in the land of the blind, the man with one eye is king.
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    LandoGriffin Male 30-39
    3844 posts
    June 5, 2009 at 10:48 pm
    That`s a Spanish saying, since in Spanish there is a word for "one-eyed" and also a world for "one-armed" and "one-legged" The proverb is:

    En el pais de los ciegos, el tuerto es el rey.

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    philipni Male 30-39
    39 posts
    June 5, 2009 at 11:12 pm
    yea
  113. Profile photo of Handsompod
    Handsompod Male 30-39
    1109 posts
    June 6, 2009 at 2:15 am
    If that had been my kid, he`d still be in my cellar now trying to drown out the whine of my angle grinder with his screams.
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    baileyabb Female 18-29
    896 posts
    June 6, 2009 at 12:23 pm
    Good, they should have f*cking killed him.
  115. Profile photo of Kaizer250
    Kaizer250 Male 18-29
    777 posts
    June 9, 2009 at 3:24 am
    No, mob violence is never okay. NEVER! The point of justice and the law should not be to punish, but to reform, and attacking and beating a person certainly doesn`t do anything to that effect.
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    rogerroger Male 18-29
    82 posts
    June 9, 2009 at 9:49 am
    I think that this was a response to people who did not believe that their justice system would work for them. He should be killed, he got a beating, the justice system is going to put him in jail. Given the nature of his offense, he can expect more beatings if he goes to prison.
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    7Mechanical Female 13-17
    56 posts
    June 17, 2009 at 3:10 am
    I agree with handsompod
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    rayxemoxsexy Female 13-17
    1 post
    December 25, 2009 at 7:20 pm
    lalalalalalalalala

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