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Back then black kids started to wear their jeans low. The white kids called it saggin`. Whats saggin spelled backwards? Those sneaky white kids..
I live in Michigan..that was never a law. It was one city that tried to pass a city ordinance and it never passed. It was never a state thing just a city thing.
Yeah, I know people who wear basketball shorts under sweatpants all the time.
I hear that it was because prisoners wore their pants lower to show that they were open for anal.
on the other,you would look more of a douche wearing tight pants.
haha my friend totally mooned the teacher and pretty much got away with it.Recently, he was suspended for 45 days for saying the n word to a black guy after the black guy tried to choke him. Then he got punched in the face. Guess how many days the black guy got for choking and punching him? FIVE. I agree he shouldn`t be cussing but "anger management" shouldn`t mean the kid should only get five days for trying to strangle some one.
That won`t work. You`re not speaking.
Unless you speak from your bum.
That said, now i know why the giant beaver mascot tackled me ripped off my pants and ran away back in the boyscouts.
As an act of rhetoric it is considered "speech".Cohen, under Cohen v. California, was not speaking either when he walked through a courthouse wearing a t-shirt that said "F*ck the Draft", yet his actions were protected under the first amendment.
That won`t work. You`re not speaking.
this picture is from the 1980s and michael moore used it in his first major film, Roger & Me.
nice try though
I don`t know about that time pretty high up there. When my very own children are sagging I give them wedgies.
imo they should have to wear suspenders for a month. that`ll teach em
maybe like community service hours + a 50 dollar fine? that`s a little bit more decent?
Flint was the city in Michael Moore`s film "Roger & Me".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_v._Jo...See Texas v Johnson.
Violations on freedom of expression aren`t limited to explicit speech. The first part, the `disorderly conduct` doesn`t even involve any sort of indecent exposure. You could call just about anything disorderly conduct, that doesn`t make it constitutional.I could call protests disorderly conduct, bad wigs, going in public wearing a tank top, etc. etc.....
haha i find that statement funny
me 2 but dad yells it me 2 pull my pant down...
Just ask our friend Plaxico. But it also makes it easier to slip and then go off when you try to grab it, narrowly missing your junk and even worse, maybe killing an innocent bystander.
I agree with the law though. If your butt`s hanging out you`re basically mooning everyone around you.
I thought baggy trousers came from there being no belts in prison, so if your jeans appear to be falling down, then you actually have a prison look that makes you `Gangsta` or whatever. Ah well. I could be wrong. For all I know it could all have been invented by MC Hammer in an attempt to avoid you touching this.
I have to laugh at those who have posted that B.S. about inmates "advertising their sexual availability".
Nothing could be further from the truth. That little tidbit of misinformation was a rather weak attempt at getting kids to stop doing it.
The real reason for the baggy pants and long, untucked shirts comes from the street gang culture. Baggy clothing makes it easier to mask concealed weapons. I don`t remember exactly when it was (early `90`s I believe), LAPD officers from the Rampart Division detained several members of the Nine-O Crips clique during a gang sweep.
While they were being searched, the Police officers were rather amazed to discover that six of the Nine-O Crips they had detained had secured AK-47`s to their legs that were not visible on cursory inspection due the bagginess of their pants.
This doesn`t violate the first amendment; which is
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
How is (or almost) committing indecent exposure considered freedom of speech? It`s not. Walking around wearing a t-shirt that says "People Should Eat Aborted Fetuses" in America is legal, because that`s exercising your right to "Freedom of Speech".
I do agree this should be punished, but not as harshly as this.
A coherent and well presented argument. However, the good people of Flint, MI have chosen not to be required to look at others` underwear, and a law has been created, and the local PD is required to uphold that law.
A law which requires underwear to be covered by clothing cannot be considered racist, because it requires that people of all races cover their underwear and not just people of a certain race.
If I go to a beach/a country with a relatively hot climate, I`ll expect to see more skin than I would in other, cooler places. Walking down the street of my hometown (Doesn`t get higher than 30C in the summer, but down to -40C in the winter) it`s not reasonable to expect to see underwear hanging out everywhere.
Like I`ve said, its quite possible the law is motivated by the fight against illegal weaponry being carried around by every "Gangsta" and wannabe in Detroit. It`s just a coincidence that those who wear their pants like this happen to be minorities.
I don`t care where the trend came from; the trend in and of itself is harmless, and that`s what`s relevant. Underwear will not hurt you. I even will go so far as to say that this law is probably implicitly motivated by racism, because I don`t see too many people saying that The Naked Cowboy should be thrown in jail. Do you all realize that these penalties are as harsh as the penalties for a first offense DUI (or OWI) in Michigan? It`s drating obscene.
Maybe if we spent more time publicizing this, this trend would die a little quicker.
.. if i lived in america..
Out on the streets, it can have gang affiliations, not always but sort of like the red and blue colors, people who are wearing them aren`t always in a gang, but in certain places they are.
Saggy pants, believe it or not, (This is true) started out as being a prison trend for relaying the sexual availability of one prisoner to another. As well, some schools enforce certain dress codes to prevent weapons being carried in the waistband of student`s pants.
I hope such laws come into place where I live in Canada. Baring your @$$ in public is considered indecent exposure (or something along those lines)in most developed cultures. Pants are worn at the waist to prevent such occurrences.
I guess I didn`t realize that baggy pants made weapons easier to hide and access, although, it seems to me it`d be easier to hide a weapon in your waistband rather then in your exposed boxer shorts...I dunno, tho, cuz Im not a criminal and don`t carry weapons...neither is or does my fiance whose pants pretty much live within the "warning" level...
yeah. this is bull. ok yeah, it looks dumb, but a dratin law?
Was just reading this: "In absolute terms, the United States currently has the largest inmate population in the world, with more than 2.5 million or more than one in a hundred adults in prison and jails. Although the US represents less than 5% of the world`s population, over 25% of the people incarcerated around the world are housed in the American prison system. As a percentage of total population, the US also has the largest imprisoned population in the world, with 739 people per 100,000 serving time, awaiting trial or otherwise detained."
About time these heinous criminals with their baggy-pants-wearing felonies got locked up too. Ah, land of the free...
Kinda hard to hide an illegal weapon in your hair. Not as easy as hiding it in loose, saggy pants.
What does QFT mean?
In the words of todays modern philosopher, lil wayne, "It Ain`t Trickin if you got it", and my guess of your hatred for thongs would be "you ain`t got poo".
"Nobody cries about fascism when the law is reinforcing their own opinion."
Is it QFT what the kids say today? Then yeah QFT
Not unless your crack talks.
But yea, I`ve seen many women do much worse. In fact, I know from experience, with the low rise jeans you have to be careful when squatting or bending over. The alternative is mom jeans, and I just can`t fathom that.
Sadly a large portion who look up to prison thugs will be there with them soon enough. :P