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53 Responses to Tom Tancredo Says Sonia Sotomayor is Racist

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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    May 30, 2009 at 11:10 am
    Link: Tom Tancredo Says Sonia Sotomayor is Racist - Tom Tancredo says Sonia Sotomayor is a member of ``Latino KKK`` without the hoods.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    May 30, 2009 at 12:29 pm
    Who said who`s a racist?
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    panth753 Female 18-29
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    May 30, 2009 at 12:32 pm
    Aww, stupidity at it`s finest. He better not want to run for another political office because that`s going to bite him hard in the ass when election comes arround.
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    ferdyfred Male 40-49
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    May 30, 2009 at 12:37 pm
    Latino KKK? you learn something new everyday
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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    May 30, 2009 at 12:44 pm
    davy, tom tancredo. R. from Colorado who called Miami a third world country.

    Miami isnt a third world country, we have much better guns

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    davymid Male 30-39
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    May 30, 2009 at 12:47 pm
    Hehe, like it.
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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
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    May 30, 2009 at 12:57 pm
    I hate the racist morons who keep bashing Sotomayor for no reason :/ BTW the actual motto is "Strengthening America by promoting the advancement of Latino families." Ooh how racist~
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    boredfjord Male 13-17
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    May 30, 2009 at 1:04 pm
    Yes, as a white man, I am getting very sick of being oppressed by Latinas.
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    patticakes Female 18-29
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    May 30, 2009 at 1:05 pm
    Well, what else would you call someone who was a lawyer for the Puerto Rican Legal Defense Fund, belongs to La Raza ("All for the race. Nothing for the rest."), and said that a latino woman can be a better judge than a white man? If that`s not a racist then you`re practicing Marxist new speak.
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    Asspenny Male 18-29
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    May 30, 2009 at 1:07 pm
    wow, la raza is not about that at all. this guy`s a jackass
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    boredfjord Male 13-17
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    May 30, 2009 at 1:14 pm
    Yeah, he`s a hypocritical poohead. He`s chairman of Youth for Western Civilization, which is an awful lot like La Raza for rich, white college kids.
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    boredfjord Male 13-17
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    May 30, 2009 at 1:23 pm
    "If that`s not a racist then you`re practicing Marxist new speak."
    Newspeak isn`t really Marxist. Orwell himself was a socialist, after all. That`s why he said things like this: "For some years past I have managed to make the capitalist class pay me several pounds a week for writing books against capitalism. But I do not delude myself that this state of affairs is going to last forever", going on to add "the only régime which, in the long run, will dare to permit freedom of speech is a Socialist régime. If Fascism triumphs I am finished as a writer - that is to say, finished in my only effective capacity. That of itself would be a sufficient reason for joining a Socialist party."

    I love how Republicans always imagine that Orwell is on their side. I`m not a socialist and I think he was wrong about socialism being the correct alternative to fascism, but the GOP should be fully aware that Orwell would never have associated with them.

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    cagel Female 18-29
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    May 30, 2009 at 1:28 pm
    patticakes, you`re a moron.

    She did not say that being a latino woman would make her a better judge than a white man. She said that her personal experiences could either help or hinder her, and by learning from them a latino woman could be in a better position to serve the bench than a white man who did not have experiences that gave him a dynamic perspective of the law.

    You`re basically spouting nonsense conservative talking points that were derived from taking statements out of context.

    Also, "La Raza" is a term that means "The Cosmic Race", coined by Mexican writer José Vasconcelos in 1925. It is meant to be a term to denote pride and dignity for Hispanic origins. And the National Council of La Raza is a non-partisan Civil Rights Group!

    She`s not a racist. That`s not "Marxist *newspeak*," that`s logic. Marx has nothing to do with it.

    Do some research, you insipid ignoramus.

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    boredfjord Male 13-17
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    May 30, 2009 at 1:31 pm
    Hm. Turns out that "all for the race, none for the rest" isn`t even their slogan.
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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    May 30, 2009 at 1:43 pm
    now see here is where i take a difference stance... Tom Tancredo is one of the most racist people out there, which in turn makes him the most qualified to tell us who is racist and who isn`t. Gotta believe him here on this one
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    boredfjord Male 13-17
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    May 30, 2009 at 1:45 pm
    Right, Prime, because racists always make accurate character judgments about the groups against whom their racism is directed.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    May 30, 2009 at 1:53 pm
    It`s true, she is a racist. You see, if we want to live in a post-racial world, we absolutely cannot have different standards for different races and different groups of people. It`s wrong that Sotomayor can say this while a white person could not have said the reverse.... a white person would have been crucified if they had said that.

    We need to hold every group to the same standards. To have different standards for different races is racism and discrimination. Maybe some of you people are ok with that, but I`m not.

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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    May 30, 2009 at 1:53 pm
    “I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.”

    I gotta say...thats somewhat racist. "Reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn`t lived that life", implies that hispanics have the ability to offer better decision than white people. Now I`m not saying she is Latino KKK, but if she was running for office, that will piss off a lot of voters

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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
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    May 30, 2009 at 1:59 pm
    Prime, if you read the WHOLE quote you will see that she even states that latino`s don`t always make better decisions than white men. Her reason for stating that is just that obviously, since she has the experience, she is able to understand and change whatever problems her race has. It`d be like me saying that as a white woman I understand the problems of white women better than black men due to actually being a white woman and thus I could change whatever problems we have. That`s not to say that they can`t change the problems, I just have more experience with the problems, being a white woman, and can probably change them more efficiently.
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    boredfjord Male 13-17
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    May 30, 2009 at 2:28 pm
    Yeah, it was definitely a wording fail on her part, and I won`t contest that point. But I doubt that she really meant to say that Latinas make better justices than white men by virtue of their race. In context, I`m pretty sure she meant that an experienced Latina would likely make a better justice than a white male without a comparable level of experience. I don`t think this very poorly worded statement necessarily disqualifies her from holding the position.
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    Suicism Male 18-29
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    May 30, 2009 at 2:57 pm
    You know Primetimekin, of all the members here at I-A-B I`d probably be the first to jump at this as an instance of reverse-discrimination if I thought that was actually occurring (no fan of LaRaza am I, unless they wanna boost the National Alliance as an appropriate counterpart..); however, I do not think that is the case here.

    This statement ANNOYS me more than anything else because what she`s doing is playing the race CARD by using, as a reference-point, the straw-man her and her ilk have established: Omnipotent White-Male Oppressor.

    In a world where whites are given privilege, she would hope that DESPITE that privilege a Latino women with MORE experience would do better than a `preferred` variety (gender, ethnicity) with less.

    However, by making this statement she`s really devaluing the ACTUAL discrimination which has plagued her people`s (and other`s) history in the past; more than anything, I feel its an exaggerated statement with meager contemporary relevance.

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    Neagle Male 30-39
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    May 30, 2009 at 3:15 pm
    Reviewing Sotomayor`s major rulings I would say her decisions are sound in the context of the law and sway more to a centrist or even a libertarian viewpoint. I am actually surprised Obama nominated her.
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    Leopardson Male 18-29
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    May 30, 2009 at 3:15 pm
    I agree with Suicism.


    “I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.”

    This was part of a speech a long time ago. It does sound a little racist unless you actually consider what she meant by it.


    I think this is a case of Conservatives seeing someone "Different" and liberal as a potential nominee, and are fishing for things to attack her with.

    This is like an attention-deprived cop trying to get a random jaywalker charged with attempted murder and crimes against humanity.
    They`re making mountains out of molehills.

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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    May 30, 2009 at 3:53 pm
    I better stay out of this mess
  25. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    May 30, 2009 at 5:58 pm
    She is a member of "La Raza" (which means "The Race"). The believe in forcibly taking back the southwest of the USA, They call "Azatlan", Through "La Reconquista" (the reconquest).

    Just do a google search on it.

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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    May 30, 2009 at 6:00 pm
    This was way more than a "Wording fail" She really believes in the supremacy of the Latino race.
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    WHOISIT12345 Male 18-29
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    May 30, 2009 at 6:04 pm
    ... and thats why i dont watch CNN...
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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    May 30, 2009 at 6:12 pm
    "This was way more than a "Wording fail" She really believes in the supremacy of the Latino race."

    Well I`m hispanic...and I`m considerably better than any other human being, you would see why she would make that distinction

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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    May 30, 2009 at 6:40 pm
    What Jose Angel Guitterez, Univ. Of Texas has to say about "Azatlan".La Raza

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    dairy Male 18-29
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    May 30, 2009 at 7:14 pm
    prime, if what you say is true, that you are hispanic (IF THAT IS INDEED EVEN A REAL RACE) prove it by answering me these questions three:

    1) WHAT is the name of the inventor of the burrito?
    2) WHO was the first hispanic person to hispanise on the good ship `The Hispaniola` in 1884 HP??
    3) WHOM is the famous hispanic biologist whose middle name you can create from the first five letters of the word `Latino`???

    Yours truly, The bridge guardian.

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    pat125 Male 18-29
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    May 30, 2009 at 7:44 pm
    She said her judgement as a Latina woman would be better than that of a white male. Reverse racism IS STILL racism!
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    pat125 Male 18-29
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    May 30, 2009 at 7:50 pm
    "I hate the racist morons who keep bashing Sotomayor for no reason :/ BTW the actual motto is "Strengthening America by promoting the advancement of Latino families." Ooh how racist~"

    Replace Latino families with white families. Then it becomes racist, correct? Exactly. In a truly race-equal society, race based organizations and affirmative action do not exist. The creation of any race-based organization is, by definition, racist, because it is aiming to advance one race over the other.

    An truly neutral and non-bias organization that looks out for racial equality (of all races), for example, would NOT be racist.

    There`s a difference.

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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
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    May 30, 2009 at 8:23 pm
    "She said her judgement as a Latina woman would be better than that of a white male. "
    Way to summarize and take completely outta context, that isn`t what she meant at all. That was discussed here already though so I wont repeat it ;)

    "Replace Latino families with white families. Then it becomes racist, correct?"
    Nope. There are many ways to strengthen America and advancing white families would also be a way, the motto isn`t saying that advancing Latino families is the only thing that strengthens America. That group just happens to focus on Latino families which isn`t a problem. You can`t expect one group to solve the problems of every group.
    Once again, morons trying to take things out of context and twist things around to make her seem racist. The ones who do this are mainly the ones that are extremely racist in the first place (i.e. Rush). They must find everything they can wrong with the woman because they don`t like her race.

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    outfire Male 13-17
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    May 30, 2009 at 8:39 pm
    Doesn`t seem racist to me, i always took it as she was saying that she had more experience than say a rich white man that had never seen real social issues, but ok. doesn`t strike me as any more racist than that comic about the stimulus package a while ago. Comic
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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    May 30, 2009 at 8:55 pm
    "1) WHAT is the name of the inventor of the burrito?"

    Americans, its not mexican.
    "2) WHO was the first hispanic person to hispanise on the good ship `The Hispaniola` in 1884 HP??"

    Jose Marti

    "3) WHOM is the famous hispanic biologist whose middle name you can create from the first five letters of the word `Latino`???"

    Alito

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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    May 30, 2009 at 9:06 pm
    It`s funny how conservatives and Republicans who have never uttered a racist word in their lives are routinely slandered and smeared as racists, yet when a minority makes blatantly racist statements, and belongs to an overtly racist group, anyone who points this out and objects to her being elevated to one of the most powerful positions in the country is called...you guessed it: "racist."

    All these so-called moderate Republicans are saying they should take the high road. Well, answer me this: When has taking the high road ever helped the Republicans, and when had taking the low road ever hurt the Democrats?

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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    May 30, 2009 at 9:07 pm

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    pat125 Male 18-29
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    May 30, 2009 at 9:48 pm
    "Nope. There are many ways to strengthen America and advancing white families would also be a way, the motto isn`t saying that advancing Latino families is the only thing that strengthens America. That group just happens to focus on Latino families which isn`t a problem. You can`t expect one group to solve the problems of every group.
    Once again, morons trying to take things out of context and twist things around to make her seem racist. The ones who do this are mainly the ones that are extremely racist in the first place (i.e. Rush)."

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    So you`re implying that an organization for the advancement of white people would not be considered racist? Seriously? There would be rioting in the streets and Al Sharpton would be working overtime. Reverse racism is real, and people are simply taking Ms. Sotomayor to task on it. Nothing wrong with that. She DID make a racist remark.

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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    May 30, 2009 at 9:56 pm
    CrakrJak, if Sotomayor is confirmed, they`ll have to replace the Supreme Court`s statue of Blind Justice with one showing her peeking under the blindfold and putting her thumb on the scale.
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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
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    May 30, 2009 at 10:07 pm
    "So you`re implying that an organization for the advancement of white people would not be considered racist?"

    I didn`t imply it, I said it directly. Also, reverse racism would be taking racism away and making it nonexistent, thus reversing the racism. Racism is racism no matter which races are involved.

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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    May 30, 2009 at 10:08 pm
    outfire, that cartoonist, Sean Delonas, has not been nominated for a lifetime appointment to the Unites States Supreme Court. Besides, considering that Obama was NOT the author if the stimulus bill, the only connection between the ape in the cartoon and Obama was strictly in the minds of the racist liberals who were howling about it.
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    frumgf Female 18-29
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    May 30, 2009 at 10:11 pm
    heheh. I enjoy all the as.shole comments from republicans. Their stupidity is entertaining.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    May 30, 2009 at 10:13 pm
    LillianDulci, can you cite a single example of a group dedicated to advancing the interests of white people that is NOT considered racist?
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    May 30, 2009 at 10:14 pm
    frumgf, if you enjoy @$$holes so much, why don`t you kiss mine?
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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    May 30, 2009 at 10:40 pm
    "frumgf, if you enjoy @$$holes so much, why don`t you kiss mine?"

    OldOllie, that comment insulted someone that made a brash comment without thinking of the repercussions of her statement.

    Or how the kids say today...OldOllie, WIN!

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    dm2754 Male 40-49
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    May 30, 2009 at 11:04 pm
    dairy: you are correct Hispanic is not a race. He it is a culture although it is often confused with the race here in the United States.

    If anyone is interested:
    National Council of La Raza is a civil right`s group. Judge for yourself at http://www.nclr.org/

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    dm2754 Male 40-49
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    May 30, 2009 at 11:21 pm
    Tom Tancredo is known to have issues with the Hispanic community.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Tancred...
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    ImmortalZach Male 13-17
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    May 30, 2009 at 11:32 pm
    White people already have groups. Freemasons ring a bell? Skull and Bones?
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    AnwarNova Male 18-29
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    May 31, 2009 at 1:17 am
    Even the SF chronicle ran an OP Ed saying she was a horrible choice.

    So...based upon that fact alone, and forgetting Tancredo...I know she`s a bad choice.

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    AnwarNova Male 18-29
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    May 31, 2009 at 1:19 am
    lol freemasons and skull and bones are not white groups (i know of people who aren`t white who are freemasons for example, and skull and bones society is secret..so its a very far reach to say they are all white, let alone you know who is a bonesman). nice try though :-P
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    SilverThread Male 30-39
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    May 31, 2009 at 8:18 am
    Well as long as there is racism on both sides we have equality, right?

    As far as the idea of Hispanic or Latino conquest of the south western states, It will not happen. By the time enough generations of Hispanics have propagated to have a majority, they will no longer be Hispanic, they will be American.

    Most of the Latino kids I know hardly speak Spanish, they certainly aren`t planning to teach it to their children, they are attending schools speaking English, working at jobs speaking English and they are sharing in predominantly European cultural values.

    My primary concern with an influx of Mexican or Latino people is this, you can see the current condition of their countries of Origin, do they want to escape that and participate in a much better lifestyle here, or is the plan to make America a s#it stew like Mexico?

    I can`t guess why people would want to escape misery only to bring it with them, but from the influx of drugs and gangs, it looks to be the case.


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    cagel Female 18-29
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    May 31, 2009 at 3:29 pm
    drug abuse and gang violence are not cultural values. They are a symptom of poverty.
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    Suicism Male 18-29
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    June 3, 2009 at 1:42 am
    Great Cartoon CrakrJack, I love you OldOllie, and Primetimekin did you read my post?

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