Cop Kicks Suspect In Head Like A Football

Submitted by: CrakrJak 8 years ago in

This chase happened yesterday in LA. Suspect is a longtime, well-known criminal. Question for I-A-B: Justified kick?
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Male 112
LOL I like how the guy said he got kicked in the shoulder. Dude must be blind.

I am gonna go with not justified. It doesn`t matter if the guy deserved it or not. There is a reason we have trials. Police are supposed to apprehend suspects using no more violence than is necessary.

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Male 345
F-em. Run from the cops and get kicked in the head. He`s lucky that`s all he got. You`re right, they are the police and I expect them to be held to a higher standard, which I define for them as a citizen of my municipality. And I expect them to kick the douche in the head.
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Male 695
the problem is he only kicked him once and not hard enough. that should get him desk duty.
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Male 777
Whether or not we would have done the same is irrelevant. Cops are supposed to be able to control themselves, and not attack people who have submitted themselves peacefully to be taken into custody. The criminal will pay for his running from police and putting the public at risk in court. It`s not the policeman`s job to punish the man.
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Female 1,412
hmmmm i think not justified because he was admiting defeat. cop had an adreneline rush i guess.
th guy could have seriously injured someone in an accident though...
i say tazer him. then he wont sustain any injuries. and sue the government and get taxpayer money.
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Female 1,063
The bad guy knew the job was dangerous when he took it. Good for the cop.
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Female 83
i would really hate to be the longtime, well-known criminal.
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Female 1,043
he was running and discooperating. it would`ve only been justified if he was being violent.
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Male 1,452
the cop can`t do that but that would be hypocritical because i would of done the same thing to that sack of poo, probally even worse
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Male 340
Major douchebag, even if he kicked another douchebag
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Male 56
aph i agree,that copped just made an ass of him self
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Male 1
I`m a cop in AZ, and I cringe every time I see this $h*t. Dude gave up, game over. I`ve been in chases, and I know the adrenaline gets pretty overwhelming, but the $h*tbag still has rights, and there is no such thing as a "free kick" just because he made them chase him.

This kind of thing embarrasses me, and it makes my job a he11 of a lot harder in the future. Police in general have had to go a long way to try to be viewed as professionals, and knuckleheads like these (the officers) are setting us back 40 years.

Oh, by the way. The idiot officer who threw that kick just made the a$$h*le gangbanger a millionaire. Nice.

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Male 516
The criminal took the police on a probable high speed chase and even booked it after he got out of the car in hopes of escaping and forcing the police to exert extreme amounts of force and police power in order to catch him. They brought out the K9 unit, probably several different squad cars, and a good amount of police officers,all while endangering the community around them whilst trying to catch this man.

Wouldn`t you be pissed?

When some kid steals my wallet and runs around my house breaking crap and disrespecting my property, and then gives up because he knows that I`m going to catch him, I don`t just take my wallet and leave.

I`m gonna beat the sh*t out of that kid.

Despite what you guys may want from police officers, they`re still human beings, and are going to act accordingly.

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Female 153
Even though this man is a criminal and broke the law, he also surrendered when he realized he was done. So I think the kick was uncalled for, and undeserved. The criminal was on the ground with his hands over his head, it wasn`t like he was going to get up in two seconds to hurt the cop in any way. And the second cop that came over and punched the hell out of the guy, that was also uncalled for. This makes me hate cops even more than I already do.
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Male 59
of course he deserved it. you stupid people. "unnecesary kick" wahhhhh... hes a criminal. he broke the f`n law. we`re talking felony charges. hes lucky all he got was a kick.
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Male 807
LOL, Hilarious.
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Female 385
the commenter needs an anatomy lesson. where I`m from shoulders are attached to the arms not on top of the neck
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Female 227
unnecessary kick! even the commentator thought it!
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Male 275
The second cop to arrive also punched the hell out of him .. did u see it ?
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Male 154
i mean if he ran over a four year old sure, kick the poo out of his head. but if nothing happen then those cops are sad.

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Male 277
that was f*cking messed up F ucking pigs
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Male 19
Society gets the police force it deserves
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Male 619
He wasn`t ressisting arrest, therefore there was no need for violence. Hang those cops!
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Male 286
wow not only did they kick him when he was down the proceeded to hit him 3-4 times when it didn`t look like he was resisting arrest anymore...

Those two cops deserved to be fired.

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Male 23
i give the cop props cuz it was funny.
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Male 7
Lol @ "ooo, wow, he just kicked him directly in the SHOULDER there ." Good job newsman!
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Male 130
This sad drat definitely deserved the kick to the head.
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Male 182
but 3 left make a right....
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Male 256
Same old comments, just a different day.
I couldn`t careless what this guy had done, the police have no right to do this, I`m not saying I care for this criminal, but 2 wrongs do not make a right.
Nuf said.
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Male 182
Looks like he slipped on the wet lawn to me.
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Male 626
And man running from cops, you shull recive... a boot to the head!
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Male 375
That`s what happens when you lead police on a high speed adrenaline pumping chase where you put innocent peoples lives at stake. If you think that`s bad you should see some Russian police videos, makes this one look mild.

F*ck criminals

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Male 425
Afromiester. There`s no reason for us to hate America, aslong as their police stick to abusing their own people. This guy I hold very little sympathy for anyway...
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Male 1,929
Lol I was once like you. Just be nice and realise the America is just another country.
vvvv
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Male 42
Another reason to hate america, what a surpise
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Male 137
lol @ comments. It`s not like they picked some guy off the street and kicked him in the head. This guy put thousands of innocent lives at danger, and we`re complaining that he got kicked in the head? I guess we`re all liberal until some gang member carjacks us at gunpoint, or our kid gets nearly beaten to death at school because he wore a red hat. And then you`d be screaming for 7-cent justice to the back of his head.

http://media.nbclosangeles.com/images/54...

wtf, is that georges st. pierre?!

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Male 176
No. Violence should only be used to prevent more harmful violence from occurring. The suspect was clearly attempting to co-operate. The officer merely exacerbated the situation and made himself look like a hormonal high school bully.
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Male 171
Hopefully neither of them "get off".
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Male 7,378
Way to let the guy off on a technicality officer.
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Male 274
id kick him twice...

ps: the dog got real close to that leg

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Male 171
Pigs are running wild in America.
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Male 639
"It`s not the police officers job to punish him. That`s why there are courts and jails. That is why it`s not justified."

Completely hit the nail on the head there mate. You cannot allow the police to behave in this way. It doesn`t matter how in the wrong the criminal was, it is an officers duty to behave responsibly.

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Male 284
Nice Bit Of WWE Funnyness There HotCarl
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Male 171
It`s not the police officers job to punish him. That`s why there are courts and jails. That is why it`s not justified.
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Male 124
I find it funny that the crimanal endangered many peoples lives and there are some of you that are getting all bent out of shape over that kick. I say get yout prioritys straight.
--justified kick. he should get a couple extra too/
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Female 142
Hey, when did Randy Orton become a cop?
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Male 171
How can you possibly justify that?
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Male 99
ahh the right foot justice strikes!!!
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Male 1,360
kicked him in the shoulder, yeah right....
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Male 426
if ya don`t run from the cops, you don`t have to worry (near as much) about getting kicked in the head...justified.
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Male 2,855
justified kick? more like awesome kick
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Male 105
For all we know he was talking smack and verbally threatening the cops and their families... Still doesn`t excuse the kick, but he could have been doing it on purpose just so he would get hit....
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Male 1,270
I can`t believe anyone feels sorry for these people. He deserves WAY more than a kick. How about if it was one of your kids/parents he run down whilst driving like that?
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Male 1,590
Funny, but not necessary.
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Male 14,331
@Viczko
"Your from america! You must be a cheeseburger loving fatass!"

Hey com`on Canadians love cheeseburgers too just ask Randy from Trailer Park Boys.....

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Male 566
"When they kick out your front door
How you gonna come?
With your hands on your head
Or on the trigger of your gun"?
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Male 353
nope not justified. The guy was on the ground sprawled out and no threat to the officer at the time.
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Male 4,593
Run from the cops; take your chances.
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Male 518
RED CARD, REF!
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Male 108
He was on the ground arms spread wide - should not have been kicked. He drove on the wrong side of the road - participated in a car chase that could have killed/injured someone and almost did - f*@k him, he`ll get over the damn kick. I was kinda hoping the dog would bite him also.
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Male 219
the cop would have shot him if he made any motion to grab a concealed weapon of some sort, so kicking him was not needed
to mrwnt
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Male 31
Although I agree with most mrwnt`s comment, I disagree that giving him the kick was necessary in this situation. If you look, the suspect was on the ground with arms out(the key), the cop had the proper position. The cop could have waited for backup and stood over the suspect with the gun over him without having to kick him in the head. Now the cop was probably pissed off because of the suspects history and the dangerous chase. So he decided to take a shot at the suspect. Only problem is that there has been a wave of police brutality vids sweeping the web and he is adding momentum to the wave.
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Male 334
Ok wise guys, when you are approaching a known violent criminal let`s see if you`re going to subdue him gently or if you`re going to take no chances and give him a knock upside the head or something.

Do you know how easy it would have been for the suspect to pull out a knife or a gun as the cop was approaching him?

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Male 193
"Ow! He kicked him directly in the... shoulder... there."
WTF?
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Male 959
Although he probably deserved it, the point is that the police are supposed to be above such abuses and act within the law. Its what sets them apart from the criminals
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Male 4,290
"Is that cop that kicked that guy black?"

Why does that matter?

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Female 535
No. Not justified. At all. And the high five? What is this? A basketball game?
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Female 34
... Is that cop that kicked that guy black?
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Male 639
I`ve never ever seen two English police officers high five each other after catching a criminal.

That attitude is all wrong.

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Male 15
we need more rednecks like KRAYZEEGIRL posting!!!
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Male 1,629
wow, that cop needs to be re-trained at very least, at reduced pay
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Female 351
That hi five and the end!

I hate Police

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Male 24
next time urinate on him.
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Male 123
So let me get this straight, the cop KICKS the guy in the HEAD and then the reporter LIES and says its in the shoulder? Serve and protect? Report the news unbiased? All [email protected]#$!! Nobody in law enforcement has the right to kick someone in the head, let alone anywhere else. Its sad too `cause i doubt anyone in local,state, or federal Gov. will ever take a stand on such abuses, to do so would cost them VOTES...
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Male 174
Tht was completely un-called for. That kick will do three things. The criminal will win at trial because of police brutality. The department will be sued and have a scandel, and the officer who did it will most likely be fired.
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Female 447
I would have stomped on his head
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Male 4,290
If they`re kicking people in the head, how are they any better than the criminal? Yes, the guy deserved it. But there`s a legal system in place for a reason. Street justice is not justice.
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Male 1,550
The creators of Duke Nukem said it best:

"L.A.R.D."

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Male 56
Fuc*in Pigs.
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Male 203
Lets get this one thing straight: The guy deserved to be kicked in the face, but the cop didn`t have the right to do it. not when he surrendered like that.
I mean, seriously, just wait till you get him in the back of the car, ya know? out of sight of the chopper? also, instead of a face kick, try an elbow drop to the spine. it is much more inconspicuous, and still hurts like bitch.
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Male 3,301
FALCON KICK!

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Male 4,014
"cheeseburger loving fatass" - I HATE Cheese!
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Male 844
A criminal is a criminal. If they commit a crime, they should be ready for what may be in stall for them.
He could have been caught red-handed but who knows.....
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Male 4,014
In America, the worst criminal deserves the same protection as the most innocent person charged with a crime, that is All I ever said.
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Male 4,014
See? You think I don`t understand Canadian Federal Law Eh???? I love Canada damnit! You have it right - keep all alcohol profits in the pocket of the governement, and don`t let people buy liquor on Credit (Beer Stores are an Amazing Concept....)

I will say, please forgive me if I insulted Canada. I love you guys Juno beach - god bless you and your legalized prostitution.

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Male 923
Wow, America vs Canada, hasn`t this turned out to be a nice thread. goaliejerry please don`t blame any comments one way or the other based on anyone being American, Canadian and other, I`ll admit there are differences in priorities here, and cops go unpunished for just about everything, but at the same time, so do any criminals that matter. Personally I am torn on the subject. At first I figured the cop was in the wrong completely, but then read the comments and found out who the "victum" was and was a bit swayed. I would say I believe the cop was wrong, but at the same time the guy deserved it. In Canada the kick would probably investigated by this officer`s peers, deemed nessacary, and would have no affect on the charges. I would assume from your arguement about the possibility of the case being thrown out due to this means the biggest difference between Canada and America on this subject is that police in America would be willing to admit one of their own screwed up.
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Male 4,014
Thank you for your non-intelligible response.

Perhaps your own anti-Americanism read far too much into what I said - there is a substantial difference between Canadian Federal Law (Ex: Gay Marriage is Legal under Canadaian Federal Law - A GOOD THING), and American Federal law.

Its farcical when I know I`m right about US federal law - go ahead and argue, but be happy when I represent you getting kicked in the face during a habeus petion in federal court challenging a criminal conviction based on a state law conviction that ignored you getting kicked in the face by a state police officer who brutilized you while you were in the prone position....

People give lawyers too much crap - defending the law doesn`t mean I MADE IT....

MechBFP - I sympathize with you, as there is a huge differnce between what someone deserves, and what our constitution provides to all citizens (for good reason).

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Male 906
Please, I await your ignorant, ill-informed response...
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Male 906
Yep, you know nothing. Thank you for pretending like certain civil rights are more paramount than others. Are you from Canada? Your ID says so, that would explain your tolerant view of police brutality..

screw you buddy. Your from america! You must be a cheeseburger loving fatass!

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Male 4,014
Please, I await your ignorant, ill-informed response...
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Male 4,014
Because In AMERICA, the executive branch serves only to apprehend - we wait for judges to convict AND dish out punishment -
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Male 4,014
Yep, you know nothing. Thank you for pretending like certain civil rights are more paramount than others. Are you from Canada? Your ID says so, that would explain your tolerant view of police brutality...
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Male 813
* on foot.
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Male 813
Ya a wiretap is exactly like running from the police in a vehcile, causing property damage, and running from the police.
Nope, no difference there... none at all.
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Male 4,014
Under your dumbass view, the government could go ahead an wiretap every citizen, or beat any person they come into contact with - afterall, statistically, SOMEONE will be guilty of a crime....don`t call people morons when you know not of what you speak.
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Male 4,014
"God damn moron. WOW"

Please, don`t pretend like you know criminal procedure.

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Male 4,014
"If anything, did not this police officer`s actions taint the" lawful criminal apprehension?

Sorry, to the IAB comment system 1000 = > 1000

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Male 5,314
should have shot the dude
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Male 813
"MechBFP - do you fail to understand that if an apprehension was unlawful, a criminal cannot be charged with the underlying crime?"
Do you fail to understand the kick to the head doesn`t come anywhere drating close to an unlawful apprehension? God damn moron. WOW.
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Male 813
mmit13fma, that`s clearly what he is saying. Is that surprising at all? No.
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Male 4,014
MechBFP - do you fail to understand that if an apprehension was unlawful, a criminal cannot be charged with the underlying crime?
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Male 813
sofaking42, are you retarded? Cases don`t get thrown out cause he gets a kick to the head. HE IS ON VIDEO COMMITTING A CRIME. drat your an embarrassment to this country, move to the states.
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Male 4,014
Siverthread

- I can tell by the syntax that you are educated, though clearly not in English, as in Major, but nor am I. I ask you something with the utmost intention of respect and sympathy with your view - what crime did the police officer add to this criminal`s list of chargesr by kicking him in the face?

How was justice served?

Are you saying that it is better that the criminal be kicked in the face ONCE rather than his appreshension be ruled constitutional in light of all the circumstances????

Do you not see how it would have been better if this individual poilce officer had not given this criminal a very solid basis under which to challenge his criminal apprehension?
Besides the immediate retribution of a police officer dishing out punishment absent trial, what did this police officer`s actions help?????

If anything, did not this police officer`s actions taint the

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Male 17,512
I don`t think kicking this miscreant in the head was a good thing. Why ? Because that kick is going to end up getting the charges dropped on this repeat offender. Not only that, But after he`s set free, It will embolden him to steal cars again thinking he can`t be touched.

The high five at the end is ironic, Considering that this will end up as anything but a win for the cops.

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Male 626
There was no need for the kick, other than the cop getting on with his power trip.

Said it yesterday in the border police post:
I hate cops.

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Male 1,505
If I ever see that cop, I`ll buy him a beer.

My wife and kids could have been driving down that street.

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Male 372
YEA! Kick `m while he`s down!

He just lies down and quits, and the non-nice individual comes over and kicks him in the skull in response? Definitely not cool.

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Male 12
I do agree that this maybe was a little too much on the cops side...However i am willing to completely look over it. This guy ran from the law, was very careless in what he did, and he had no concern for the everyday normal civilians who are trying to live their lives. So, a kick in the head to me is well deserved. (This is the very first one posted where I didn`t side against the cop.)
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Male 1,002
Did that cop really think an unarmed guy laying face down in the grass with his arms spread out was a threat? The worst he could possibly do in that position is grab the cops` feet.
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Male 29
Justified or not, it was bloody funny.
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Male 282
No Comment...
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Female 344
well i say he got what was coming to bad the cop did not do more
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Male 559
Hey Silverthread, forgive me if I seemed like I am flaming you. I didn`t mean to sound that way. While, I agree with you that the punk deserved it, calling it justified wasn`t right. I also agree with you that our justice system is very flawed. I don`t, however, think that there is currently a better system out there. Instant justice to easily opens the door to racism, mistaken identity and false charges as proved over and over in the days of the vigilante back in the 19th century. The officers job was to apprehend the "suspect". His offenses, however obvious, were not yet proven in a court of law. Once this video is played, if admitted in court, will put the prick away. But that is the job of the Judge, jury and prosecuting attorney. NOT the cop. Is it a termination worthy offense? Probably not, but definatly worth an investigation and maybe a suspension or other such disiplinary action. (Please forgive my crappy spelling.)
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Male 20,829
Nid, by well-known, it was meant that he has a rap sheet as long as his arm. Apparently, the cops knew of him during the pursuit.
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Male 15,832
@davymid "[Silverthread] just has... conservative leanings."

No, Davy. Police violating people`s rights is not a conservative principle. It`s just leftist slander. You need to learn to be a little more tolerant of those who disagree with you.

I`m actually a libertarian, so I have plenty of disagreements with conservatives, but I don`t have to smear them, and neither do you. Grow up a little.

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Male 9,305
I`m sorry could someone educate me as to who that man is? I`m still very much in the dark here.

(I don`t watch a lot of TV, and when I do, it`s usually just animated stuff.)

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Male 20,829
Here`s a photo of the perp...

There`s no justifying the kick, but I can also understand how humans are basically dumb animals and when the adrenaline is pumping and the criminal you`re chasing as put innocent people as well as your co-workers in harm, the body goes into auto-pilot mode.

Did the jagweed deserve to get kicked in the head, hell yeah. But the cop should`ve acted like a professional. And if the cops didn`t high-five afterward, I`d be more understanding, but celebrating is just retarded.

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Male 9,305
I wonder why they`d do that. I wonder what happened before...
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Male 3,058
I`m torn by this.

Silverthread raises a valid point. We DID see the suspect commit more than one crime, (Hit and run, along with Fleeing a Police Officer) so those of you screaming "Innocent until proven guilty" need to realize that yes, that IS the way it`s supposed to be, but when you`re guilty, you`re guilty.

The cop really wasn`t really justified in kicking the suspect in the head, but I understand why it went down that way.

*waits for Dairy to flame me for being a "pompous squaddie"*

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Male 1,685
kick that motherF**ker. He`s a threat...I don`t give a shi.t if he`s giving up...now he`s giving up with a serious headache. Good.

and he only gave up cause he had nowhere else to run. Not cause all of a sudden he`s a good person.

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Male 886
@Dus-Sn: wow, sorry, just throwing out ideas. The police officer can only shoot as a last resort, I believe, so it`s not like he would shoot at the slightest movement, especially if someone is in that position without a weapon. I`m pretty sure that guy would be unsuccessful at attempting to wrestle the cop`s gun from him, but that doesn`t mean he wouldn`t try anyway, hence the kick to the head.

However, the other person who addressed my post (it`s on another page so I don`t know the name) did bring up a good point that he could have just waited for the other police officers to arrive, therefore eliminating most of the need for the kick, but I still don`t see it as too much somehow. Like I said before, it would hurt a lot I`m sure but he`ll probably be fine, and the cop was also probably pretty darn angry at the criminal and so had a tough time controlling his anger. So even if it isn`t justified, it`s still understandable.

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Male 252
No because this is how trials get thrown out. Now he walks drating retards....The guy is probably laughing, because he probably robbed a bank and now will walk...OMFG
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Male 3,369
To SilverThread:
I totally get the frustration with the legal system.
I`ve seen someone get away with pre-meditated murder (and get a reduced manslaughter charge) because "it wasnt their fault they`d been drinking and doing drugs"...so yeah. I do belive some people should be taken down hard and fast.

We all have that innner Batman that wants to seriously kick the teeth in of the a$$holes of the world.

BUT..the police can not be that power. If allowed to go unchecked, innocent people will suffer and they have. Hell...even the public can`t have that power (Especially when some idiots have been known to burn down paediatrician`s practices because the think its something to do with pedos).

I don`t have the answer to fix it all..but better politicians and certainly a better legal and punishment system are heavily involved!


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Male 12,138
Mutual respect Silverthread. You and I have almost diametrically opposing world-views ( I speak of the political left and right), and we`ve debated a lot in the past on various issues. And despite what the kool kids say these days about arguing on the internet being pointless, retard olympics blah blah blah, you`ve actually made me stop and think, hell maybe even change my mind (imagine!) on more than one occassion.
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Male 276
Norris
Male, 18-29, Southern US
295 Posts Thursday, May 14, 2009 8:01:59 PM
We should have death penalty for all serious and especially repeat offenders.
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with the 3 striek rule we currently have, 3 misdemeanors is a felony afterwards and 3 felonies (or 6 misdomeanors at speerat times) is a logn prision sentence... so what you are sujjestign is if I get 6 moving traffic voilentions I should be excuted?
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Male 15
krabkat, you can`t get attempted murder with a deadly weapon for that. He wasn`t trying to kill anyone, the most they could charge him with would be aggrevated assault with a deadly weapon.
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Male 20
To Aero: Wow. Lets try an experiment to test your hypothesis on whether suspect was able "try something", shall we? Sprawl out on the ground with your arms out much like the suspect did in the video. Then, have a friend of yours run up to you with a gun (preferably a real loaded one) aimed at you and see if you can "try something" before your friend is able to shoot you first. The guy surrendered and as such was already at a disadvantage by his prone position on the ground. This isn`t the movies where someone who is flat on their stomach can jump up to a standing position, pull out a knife, and slit your throat in a millisecond. So please.. think before you post
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Male 3,431
Rorschach?

No no...my name is uh...definitely not Walter Kovacs. It`s, something else, entirely.

In seriousness Davy, I`m glad you appreciate my point of view. It`s easy to arbitrarily dismiss an opposing perspective in Archie Bunker fashion and I find that more and more the antiquity of my upbringing sets me morally at odds with my peers.

It`s the mark of true insight to be able to at least first consider anothers point of view and then make your decision based on your own beliefs so I`ll say thank your for considering my thoughts and looking past my initial vehemence.

Whether we agree or not, you are a person I recognize as having a valuable opinion.


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Male 362
and i get yelled at at my job for not putting rice on the table first...
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Male 5
Meh, I don`t really care. I personally don`t think was anything to get worked up over. I know not complying with police is a good way to get hurt or killed. The suspect knew what he was getting into.
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Female 1,260
Yeh...should`t have kicked him...once they give up you gotta stop pounding on them I think. BUT, if this little crime committing repeat offender Bootard had made ME run after his [email protected]@ AFTER he drove the wrong way down the street (thus being eligible for "Attempted murder with a lethal weapon - the car, for those who don`t get it) and THEN running like the little [email protected] he is, THEN giving up when he was cornered -- I probably would have bounced my night stick on him a few times just to make sure he stayed down - you know the little cretin would try to run again at the first chance he saw to get away!

OK...I`m being a little sarcastic but I hate these multi-time losers who always think they can get away with it and when they finally give up, they whine because the frustrated, out of breath, overworked, underpaid police officer took a bit of aggression out on them. BooHoo! Get a damn job and quit being stupid - then you don`t have to worry about getting hit!

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Male 1,011
We should have death penalty for all serious and especially repeat offenders.
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Male 207
Well...I would probably do the same after chasing some punk at high speed, risking my life as well as putting other people in danger. But that`s why I`m not a cop.
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Male 12,138
[quote] Spot on. As it happens I work with the Police, I am not a Police officer and have no inclination to be one [/quote]

F*ck me, I`ve just figured you out - you`re Rorschach! `Fess up!

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I kid of course, you make a very intelligent and though provoking point Silver, as usual. And in the face of some serious flames too - kudos.

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Male 189
Police Brutality much?
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Male 3,431
"The Maddog

The problem is as much the legal system as well. If this guy was a consistent offender..why the hell was he out anyway?"

Spot on. As it happens I work with the Police, I am not a Police officer and have no inclination to be one (Breathe a sigh of relief everyone).

The Legal system is definitely flawed. A friend of mine, formerly a district attorney, used to say "It`s not Justice, it`s the Law."

Justice needs to be Swift and exact, it needs to be consistent with the crime and it needs to be administered evenly. The Law does none of these things and yet it`s still the only standard we have by which to provide Justice to our civilization.

I will make an Honest Wager with ANYONE Here that Richard Rodriguez recommits another felony crime within five years of being freed from this one. He will do it because he knows how emasculated our legal system is and he has no fear of being held to justice because that possibility does not exist any longer.

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Male 80
Well it looks like a white guy so Al Sharpton would probably say its ok since hes white. But if he were black it would have been bad the cop wouldve been fired justifiably of course. And this is sarcasm by the way.
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Male 599
justified, that kick was full of win. Criminal got pwned
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Male 4,793
unjustified, hope the cop gets fired for it. the dude gave up, there was no reason to further assault the guy.
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Male 3,369
To SilverThread:

I dont disagree with your view point. We have exactly the same sort of crap this side of the pond. Some people are not fit to be out in society with the rest of us...but it is still not the job of the police to deal out any sort of punishment.

My own brother is a policeman so trust me, I`ve heard exactly how stessfull the job is and what sort of crap they put up with, but he, just like I, know that it is not the polices job to deal out the punishment. That is what the court`s are there for. Reasonable force wasnt used here and the police have to be accountable for their actions. Just look at the history books and see what happens when the police decide to start dishing out their version of justice.

The problem is as much the legal system as well. If this guy was a consistent offender..why the hell was he out anyway?

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Male 309
meh, he could have been hiding a gun and was going to use it on the cop and try to escape again. the other two cops looked like they wernt in the yard yet. so

cops life > bad guys bruised head

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Male 68
unjustified, but i don`t really care because its not indicative of any kind of institutionalized abuse like the pastor getting tazed for asserting his rights
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Male 157
Just sprinkle some crack on him.
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Male 742
Loadstar= epic win
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Male 3,255
Silver, your passion is justifiable, and I`m sure that anyone here with a shred of decency agrees with your anger at the man. Hell, I myself am glad the prick got kicked in the head. But it was still wrong for the cop to do so. The man obviously deserved it, in my opinion, but a cop can NOT act like a judge! Our legal system isn`t some thrown together random jumble, it is a carefully planned system of checks and balances. "Innocent until proven guilty" is very VERY important.
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Male 109
@SilverThread
wow...that`s a dangerous thought in this economy.
`memba the Adolf? don`t bring him back
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Male 307
...then the other cops run up and dump Gatorade on the kicker-cop.
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Male 522
wow, right in the shoulder...
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Male 3,431
"Richard Rodriquez" ,a known Gang Member in the City of El Monte, is the recipient of the kick in this video. On his mug shot you can see a gang tattoo on his upper lip.

Now through the course of the video he damn near ran into five other motorists while attempting to evade the police in a stolen car. Incidentally there have been five people on here so far lobbing ad hominem attacks my way for being so harsh. He actually managed to run into the sixth car so I`ll let you discuss which of you can take the hit for the team though odds are it will be another innocent bystander.

If I feel strongly about this it is because of an overwhelming internal urge to protect my society. It makes me furious to see people like this with absolutely no regard at all for the welfare of anyone but themselves. They contribute nothing to society and yet to the great credit of most Americans we continue to try and give them a second chance and in return they kick us in the face.

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Female 665
No, it wasn`t justified. But it was still freaking hilarious.
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Male 559
Hey Silverthread, no mater what you think or say, the constitution GUARANTEES innocent till proven guilty IN A COURT OF LAW. The tv news isn`t a court of law, just a court of public opinion. You fail!
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Male 3,255
Did he deserve it? Based soley on what I saw in the video, HELL YES. Am I glad he got kicked? drat yea! Should the cop have kicked him? Well, no, lol. The second a cop acts like a judge our entire legal system becomes meaningless.
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Male 436
Totally unjustified.

That cop needs to be kicked in the nuts. By the offender. Right now.

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Male 559
Justified my ass! The suspect was in a submit position, there was NO need to kick the man. But then, this is the LAPD, so no suprise.
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Male 84
"likely to try some tricks when the police came over"

so he couldn`t have waited 15 seconds while the guy was on the floor with a gun pointed at him to make sure there were enough officers to apprehend him safely?

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Female 340
justified!!!
if you`re stupid enough to run from the cops you`ve gotta expect to get kicked in the face. i mean how stupid do you have to be..... that guy is a leach on society and if he would have killed himself in that car he`d be doing us all a favor. but i can sleep at night knowing that there are good people protecting us from people like him. kicking evil doers in the face... def high five material.
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Male 886
I`m gonna actually have to say justified. Seeing as he was a "longtime, well-known criminal," also evident from the high five by the two cops at the end which seemed to suggest that he was tough to catch, he may have been known or likely to try some tricks when the police came over, and the kick was just to make sure he didn`t. We don`t really know if he was planning on giving up, neither did the cop, he was a wanted criminal who may have been planning on trying some trick, maybe to get the police officer`s gun somehow, and so the kick was to be safe, which is necessary. Police aren`t supposed to take risks, and it`s not like it killed him.
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Male 4,014
thissitesuk - let me easily demonstrate what is wrong with your logic.

By your logic, in the context of a war, once the other side raises a white flag and surrenders, dropping their guns and coming out of cover - you say go ahead and shoot them because they *were* fighting a little while ago....insane.

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Male 1,788
silverthread=moron.
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Male 12,138
[quote]Oh how I pity you silverthread. I truly hope you arent really 30-39. [/quote]

Oh, he really is. He just has... conservative leanings.

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Male 2,199
wow, why dont u just tea-bag him and skeet on his face while your at it...
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Male 40
The guy did not just give up peacefully...he had already led the police on a chase. They were completely justified in using force to ensure he complied.
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Male 3
i can`t wait untill the govt runs everything
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Male 3,369
To SilverThread:
The police are there to apprehend criminal scum, not dish out their own brand of justice.

If we all thought like you, we might as well have mob justice. Dispense with the legal system all together!

The guy isnt fit to be a police officer. I dont dispute the thief probably did deserve it, but there is a line and that cop crossed it!

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Male 139
Wow. You really don`t get it do you silverthread? Not even worth our time fellow IAB readers, not even worth our time.
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Male 5,189
He was on the ground and you could see he gave up. Unjustified. That guy will remember that cops face when he gets out of jail.
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Female 778
totally uncalled for. the guy was flat on the ground, not moving at all. the punches and jabs with the stick were uncalled for as well, speedy wasn`t going anywhere, or even trying to at that point. yes he`s a criminal, but he doesn`t deserve to be treated like that when he`s obviously surrendering. this is why people hate cops. people poo themselves over abu ghraib but think this is okay. i don`t get it. and i do understand what happened at abu ghraib was far worse than this and what police do when they batter other people, but isn`t all brutality equally wrong and unacceptable regardless of the extent?
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Male 7,933
nice job doing that on national tv stupid
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Male 182
Oh how I pity you silverthread. I truly hope you arent really 30-39.
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Male 4,014
Unjustified. From recent conversations here, people know I tend to give police the benefit of the doubt, but the guy was clearly sprawled out on the ground and surrendered.

I understand the cop probably said "Don`t look at me" which is normal to do - you don`t want to perp watching and waiting for the right moment to make a move - and I understand the cop`s adreneline was probably through the roof, not to mention probably pissed that the guy could have killed innocent people.

If the cop was uncertain he could approach safely, he should have kept his distance with his gun drawn. But kicking dude square in the face while he was voluntarily prone went too far.

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Male 566
here`s hoping SilverThread is not an officer of the law, Any dratin money he`s a republican tho.
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Male 112
And that is 2 points for the conversion.

Seriously though, unjustified but still drating hilarious

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Male 3,431
He ain`t a "Suspect" We just SAW him get out of a Goddamn Car and RUN! He`s a Goddamn Criminal and a Pile of S#IT he deserves to have his Teeth kicked down his throat! Quit SYMPATHIZING with these non-nice individuals! They need to have the poo beat outta them for this kind of crap. Repeatedly if need be until they get the goddamn point. DON`T STEAL OTHER PEOPLES S#IT, DON`T ENDANGER OTHER PEOPLES LIVES and the Cops won`t have a REASON to beat your Stupid Ass!

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Male 55
Gaul. I understand the entire "protect and serve" thing, but I would still be alright with police officers taking a hike.
No kick is a justified kick. Almost.
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Male 458
The cop is an an idiot. He knew dang well that there were 2 helicopters following the chase recording everything that went down. The suspect was spread eagle face to the ground with his hands far away from his pockets as possible. Kicking him was just a dumbass move.
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Female 1,095
Totally uncalled for, but that was an intense chase. Too bad there wasn`t any dramatic music.
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Male 182
In the shoulder my a ss. Of course its not justified. he had his face down with his hands out. F uck T he Police!
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Female 323
i hate cops.
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Male 139
I`d be pissed too. But he gave up so, unjustified.
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Male 17,512
Link: Cop Kicks Suspect In Head Like A Football [Rate Link] - This chase happened yesterday in LA. Suspect is a longtime, well-known criminal. Question for I-A-B: Justified kick?
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