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I am gonna go with not justified. It doesn`t matter if the guy deserved it or not. There is a reason we have trials. Police are supposed to apprehend suspects using no more violence than is necessary.
This kind of thing embarrasses me, and it makes my job a he11 of a lot harder in the future. Police in general have had to go a long way to try to be viewed as professionals, and knuckleheads like these (the officers) are setting us back 40 years.
Oh, by the way. The idiot officer who threw that kick just made the a$$h*le gangbanger a millionaire. Nice.
Wouldn`t you be pissed?
When some kid steals my wallet and runs around my house breaking crap and disrespecting my property, and then gives up because he knows that I`m going to catch him, I don`t just take my wallet and leave.
I`m gonna beat the sh*t out of that kid.
Despite what you guys may want from police officers, they`re still human beings, and are going to act accordingly.
Those two cops deserved to be fired.
wtf, is that georges st. pierre?!
ps: the dog got real close to that leg
Completely hit the nail on the head there mate. You cannot allow the police to behave in this way. It doesn`t matter how in the wrong the criminal was, it is an officers duty to behave responsibly.
Hey com`on Canadians love cheeseburgers too just ask Randy from Trailer Park Boys.....
Do you know how easy it would have been for the suspect to pull out a knife or a gun as the cop was approaching him?
Why does that matter?
That attitude is all wrong.
I hate Police
I will say, please forgive me if I insulted Canada. I love you guys Juno beach - god bless you and your legalized prostitution.
Perhaps your own anti-Americanism read far too much into what I said - there is a substantial difference between Canadian Federal Law (Ex: Gay Marriage is Legal under Canadaian Federal Law - A GOOD THING), and American Federal law.
Its farcical when I know I`m right about US federal law - go ahead and argue, but be happy when I represent you getting kicked in the face during a habeus petion in federal court challenging a criminal conviction based on a state law conviction that ignored you getting kicked in the face by a state police officer who brutilized you while you were in the prone position....
People give lawyers too much crap - defending the law doesn`t mean I MADE IT....
MechBFP - I sympathize with you, as there is a huge differnce between what someone deserves, and what our constitution provides to all citizens (for good reason).
screw you buddy. Your from america! You must be a cheeseburger loving fatass!
Please, don`t pretend like you know criminal procedure.
Sorry, to the IAB comment system 1000 = > 1000
- I can tell by the syntax that you are educated, though clearly not in English, as in Major, but nor am I. I ask you something with the utmost intention of respect and sympathy with your view - what crime did the police officer add to this criminal`s list of chargesr by kicking him in the face?
How was justice served?
Are you saying that it is better that the criminal be kicked in the face ONCE rather than his appreshension be ruled constitutional in light of all the circumstances????
Do you not see how it would have been better if this individual poilce officer had not given this criminal a very solid basis under which to challenge his criminal apprehension?Besides the immediate retribution of a police officer dishing out punishment absent trial, what did this police officer`s actions help?????
If anything, did not this police officer`s actions taint the
The high five at the end is ironic, Considering that this will end up as anything but a win for the cops.
Said it yesterday in the border police post:I hate cops.
My wife and kids could have been driving down that street.
He just lies down and quits, and the non-nice individual comes over and kicks him in the skull in response? Definitely not cool.
No, Davy. Police violating people`s rights is not a conservative principle. It`s just leftist slander. You need to learn to be a little more tolerant of those who disagree with you.
I`m actually a libertarian, so I have plenty of disagreements with conservatives, but I don`t have to smear them, and neither do you. Grow up a little.
(I don`t watch a lot of TV, and when I do, it`s usually just animated stuff.)
There`s no justifying the kick, but I can also understand how humans are basically dumb animals and when the adrenaline is pumping and the criminal you`re chasing as put innocent people as well as your co-workers in harm, the body goes into auto-pilot mode.
Did the jagweed deserve to get kicked in the head, hell yeah. But the cop should`ve acted like a professional. And if the cops didn`t high-five afterward, I`d be more understanding, but celebrating is just retarded.
Silverthread raises a valid point. We DID see the suspect commit more than one crime, (Hit and run, along with Fleeing a Police Officer) so those of you screaming "Innocent until proven guilty" need to realize that yes, that IS the way it`s supposed to be, but when you`re guilty, you`re guilty.
The cop really wasn`t really justified in kicking the suspect in the head, but I understand why it went down that way.
*waits for Dairy to flame me for being a "pompous squaddie"*
and he only gave up cause he had nowhere else to run. Not cause all of a sudden he`s a good person.
However, the other person who addressed my post (it`s on another page so I don`t know the name) did bring up a good point that he could have just waited for the other police officers to arrive, therefore eliminating most of the need for the kick, but I still don`t see it as too much somehow. Like I said before, it would hurt a lot I`m sure but he`ll probably be fine, and the cop was also probably pretty darn angry at the criminal and so had a tough time controlling his anger. So even if it isn`t justified, it`s still understandable.
We all have that innner Batman that wants to seriously kick the teeth in of the a$$holes of the world.
BUT..the police can not be that power. If allowed to go unchecked, innocent people will suffer and they have. Hell...even the public can`t have that power (Especially when some idiots have been known to burn down paediatrician`s practices because the think its something to do with pedos).
I don`t have the answer to fix it all..but better politicians and certainly a better legal and punishment system are heavily involved!
No no...my name is uh...definitely not Walter Kovacs. It`s, something else, entirely.
In seriousness Davy, I`m glad you appreciate my point of view. It`s easy to arbitrarily dismiss an opposing perspective in Archie Bunker fashion and I find that more and more the antiquity of my upbringing sets me morally at odds with my peers.
It`s the mark of true insight to be able to at least first consider anothers point of view and then make your decision based on your own beliefs so I`ll say thank your for considering my thoughts and looking past my initial vehemence.
Whether we agree or not, you are a person I recognize as having a valuable opinion.
OK...I`m being a little sarcastic but I hate these multi-time losers who always think they can get away with it and when they finally give up, they whine because the frustrated, out of breath, overworked, underpaid police officer took a bit of aggression out on them. BooHoo! Get a damn job and quit being stupid - then you don`t have to worry about getting hit!
F*ck me, I`ve just figured you out - you`re Rorschach! `Fess up!
I kid of course, you make a very intelligent and though provoking point Silver, as usual. And in the face of some serious flames too - kudos.
The problem is as much the legal system as well. If this guy was a consistent offender..why the hell was he out anyway?"
Spot on. As it happens I work with the Police, I am not a Police officer and have no inclination to be one (Breathe a sigh of relief everyone).
The Legal system is definitely flawed. A friend of mine, formerly a district attorney, used to say "It`s not Justice, it`s the Law."
Justice needs to be Swift and exact, it needs to be consistent with the crime and it needs to be administered evenly. The Law does none of these things and yet it`s still the only standard we have by which to provide Justice to our civilization.
I will make an Honest Wager with ANYONE Here that Richard Rodriguez recommits another felony crime within five years of being freed from this one. He will do it because he knows how emasculated our legal system is and he has no fear of being held to justice because that possibility does not exist any longer.
I dont disagree with your view point. We have exactly the same sort of crap this side of the pond. Some people are not fit to be out in society with the rest of us...but it is still not the job of the police to deal out any sort of punishment.
My own brother is a policeman so trust me, I`ve heard exactly how stessfull the job is and what sort of crap they put up with, but he, just like I, know that it is not the polices job to deal out the punishment. That is what the court`s are there for. Reasonable force wasnt used here and the police have to be accountable for their actions. Just look at the history books and see what happens when the police decide to start dishing out their version of justice.
The problem is as much the legal system as well. If this guy was a consistent offender..why the hell was he out anyway?
cops life > bad guys bruised head
Now through the course of the video he damn near ran into five other motorists while attempting to evade the police in a stolen car. Incidentally there have been five people on here so far lobbing ad hominem attacks my way for being so harsh. He actually managed to run into the sixth car so I`ll let you discuss which of you can take the hit for the team though odds are it will be another innocent bystander.
If I feel strongly about this it is because of an overwhelming internal urge to protect my society. It makes me furious to see people like this with absolutely no regard at all for the welfare of anyone but themselves. They contribute nothing to society and yet to the great credit of most Americans we continue to try and give them a second chance and in return they kick us in the face.
That cop needs to be kicked in the nuts. By the offender. Right now.
so he couldn`t have waited 15 seconds while the guy was on the floor with a gun pointed at him to make sure there were enough officers to apprehend him safely?
By your logic, in the context of a war, once the other side raises a white flag and surrenders, dropping their guns and coming out of cover - you say go ahead and shoot them because they *were* fighting a little while ago....insane.
Oh, he really is. He just has... conservative leanings.
If we all thought like you, we might as well have mob justice. Dispense with the legal system all together!
The guy isnt fit to be a police officer. I dont dispute the thief probably did deserve it, but there is a line and that cop crossed it!
I understand the cop probably said "Don`t look at me" which is normal to do - you don`t want to perp watching and waiting for the right moment to make a move - and I understand the cop`s adreneline was probably through the roof, not to mention probably pissed that the guy could have killed innocent people.
If the cop was uncertain he could approach safely, he should have kept his distance with his gun drawn. But kicking dude square in the face while he was voluntarily prone went too far.
Seriously though, unjustified but still drating hilarious