16 Year-Old Cracks 300 Year-Old Math Problem

Submitted by: kalela 7 years ago Misc
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090528/od_afp/swedeneducationoffbeatiraq_20090528124335

He"ll take over the world someday.
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Male 1,403
expired. goddamit now were gonna have to solve it all over again!
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Male 178
Umm... Last digit of pi?
List off all digits of pi you know! go!
While we`re at it, Fibonacci sequence go!
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Female 5,222
what is the formula representing??
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Female 609
rock on.
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Male 42
Oh, thats right, significant digits. Damn, not my proudest moment.
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Male 2
@Epicasaurus

Actually brprince is right. You wouldn`t be able to to use 0 to narrow down the last digit of pi as 0 can`t be used as such. That leaves you with only 1-9.

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Male 42
@brprince
You forgot 0 there genius; hence the ten numbers.
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Male 91
have a look:
http://www.uu.se/news/news_item.php?typ=artikel&id=693
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Male 3,296
so where the drat is the problem at.
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Male 721
just because he solved some puzzle he is a genious?
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Male 33
@ "Standards" (presumably short for "poor standards")

the nine numbers i can narrow it down to are as follows:

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9.

if you need to ask why, dont try and take maths at uni, it wont end well for you.

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Female 901
greeeaat. now they`re gonna teach us THAT poo in school. TT"
though some are saying this thing is fake, so win lose situation i guess? lol
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Female 1,963
And yes, some people say maths. Try travelling, or you know, picking up a book sometime. Might learn a thing or two.
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Female 1,963
Ok so this isn`t true. Damn you news for lying to me.
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Male 3,482
When did Yahoo end up in England?

And it seriously just doesn`t sound like it would flow well to say "maths..."

It just doesn`t feel as fluid... Whatever, they can have their tongue, I`ll have mine. Not like I`ll ever intentionally speak with a Brit about math anyway...

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Female 85
" "maths" problem?
Really?

This kid just proved himself a damn genius and you can`t even use proper grammar in your article about him?

Wow..."

okay you don`t have to be douchey about it.
it`s called `colloquialism`
england says `maths`
we say `math`

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Male 168
yes "maths"

In case you haven`t noticed yet, English does vary between US and England.

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Female 192
""maths" problem?

Really?

This kid just proved himself a damn genius and you can`t even use proper grammar in your article about him?

Wow..."

I`ve heard it quite a few times, so I assumed it was a regional thingie.

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Female 147
Lets hope its research that uplifts humanity, and not bomb it into everness.
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Male 3,482
"maths" problem?

Really?

This kid just proved himself a damn genius and you can`t even use proper grammar in your article about him?

Wow...

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Male 564
"Yeah? well i can narrow it down to 9."

Really? which 9?

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Male 301
iraq:1 US:20 Britan:26 China:25 JApan:600,000 -_-
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Male 189
Looked it up. Be happy with the "math problem" descriptor. Migraine generator.
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Male 130
i think the people who call this story fake are jelous of a 16 year old boys right to fame for being rediciously smart

nuff said

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Male 1,357
at least hes not setting off to uni to be a complete "young genious" kinda kid
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Female 221
Well, more power to him!
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Male 145
what is the math problem?
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Male 97
router, they still have to be programmed by humans you massive fag
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Male 422
He didn`t:

http://www.uu.se/news/news_item.php?typ=artikel&id=693

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Male 33
Yeah? well i can narrow it down to 9.
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Female 1,077
@epicasaurus "What about the last digit of pi?"

I can narrow it down to one of ten possible numbers. "

You win the internet.

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Male 382
why does saying "BELIEVE IT OR NOT???" count as spamming?! they dont really say much but banning them seems harsh...

on a side note, chuck norris IS boning your sister, enough said.

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Male 42
"What about the last digit of pi?"

I can narrow it down to one of ten possible numbers.

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Male 42
Ani187
"At this very moment, there is a fifty-fifty chance that Chuck Norris is boning your sister"

You mean he can only bone half of the female population at any one time? How pathetic.

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Female 387
Quote from Wikipedia: "Mathematicians claim this proof has been discovered before and is well known in the field."

On the other hand, he`s still amazing to come up with the simplification on his own!

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Male 1,452
cmon mods activate your inner non-nice individual and perma ban these people, its getting WAY outta hand
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Male 212
god i hope its from one ip...otherwise `we`ll be seeing alot of thes drating posts and it will be near impossible to stop the bastards
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Male 701
Yeah, if you can, ban the IP address.
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Male 679
"BELIEVE IT OR NOT???"

Can someone please ban this spammer?

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Male 3,425
How can people call fake on this? We haven`t seen the formulas, so we can`t even tell ourselves if it`s fake, and the professor have said it`s right, so there`s no evidence to doubt its authenticity. I think you`re all just jealous.
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Male 2,553
>PC-Player

Yep, indeed that`s how things are. But for the kid to realize this at that level, with no help? I`m impressed, regardless whether it`s new or old.

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Male 2,553
No, it`s real.

Saw it a while back.

The teachers failed though. Sweden, the country behind Law of Jante (it doesn`t mean nything really, it`s just a name), can be so friggin slow to realize potential. The "Law" basically states that you are nobody. Nobody is interested in what you do, and you probably suck at it anyway. So don`t bother to make a show of it.

Which is why people around you talk down to you, like you`re a little child, as soon as you see/discover/invent something awesome. Except, of course, when it has gone public and is the norm, then suddenly EVERYONE was supportive of you during your hard times. They were there...

Man I hate that social piece of "etiquette".

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Female 4,028
I want to see this formula.
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Male 197
Fake or not... does the equation help ANYbody in ANYway?
And on that note... "Excuse me? Can you f*ck it?" "No...?" "Awwww"
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Male 1,452
i am gonna exceed the unwritten iab posting limit but how the hall can the be fake?! stupid people these days...

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Male 310
gay and fake
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Male 473
Man I`m jealous of his intellect.

in other words...

NERD ALERT!

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Male 129
There is more to this story.

Iraqi teen tackles maths puzzle, but not the first: university:
"Senior lecturer Jan-Aake Lindhal verified the formula, but added that although correct, it was well known and readily available in several databases," the statement said. - yahoo news

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Male 1,452
we also need raikun to be banned, i caught him spamming once and he is currently trolling. This poor thread spammers and trollers are attacking
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Male 117
Can a moderator PLEASE ban ChetnaX and delete her crap?
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Male 1,452
that math problem still wont fix the economy, SOCIAL SCIENCE STILL RULES THE ARENA
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Male 586
at the end i mis-read and i thought he said, i have to improve on english and social skills. I`m like i bet you do you NERD. lol im soo mean
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Male 904
i wanted a little info on the problem... wtf
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Female 4,447
I had a comment, but tossed it `cause it seems like maybe this didn`t happen the way they`re saying it did. So instead I leave you with this little pearl of wisdom: At this very moment, there is a fifty-fifty chance that Chuck Norris is boning your sister
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Male 485
this article sucks... it says nothing about the math problem
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Male 601
Oh God, Bernoulli. I missed a Bernoulli`s equation problem on my AP physics test last month. Incredibly difficult to understand.

As for the story, I wouldn`t give it too much credibility until it is reviewed internationally, not just in Sweden.

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Male 516
"...I dont think there are any math problems humanity can be stumped by."

"What about the last digit of pi?"

Finding the `last digit of pi` (if there was such a thing) would not be a problem, it would be an exercise. There is a distinct difference.

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Male 719
"With todays computers such as the MONSTER IBM`s Blue Gene I dont think there are any math problems humanity can be stumped by."

Unfortunately, when most people think of mathematics, it is restricted to a very small portion of number theory, a really small portion of linear algebra, and few get beyond an extremely small portion of real analysis (ie calculus). There are entire fields of mathematics that only distantly reference numbers, some that only use numbers as a way of comparing abstract objects, and some that have nothing to do with numbers at all.

Also, there are many statements that we know can neither be proven nor disproven, such as the Axiom of Choice.

"What about the last digit of pi?"

The problem in this case is not in finding the answer, but in asking the question. The answer is, in fact, well known.

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Male 5,190
Math!!!! My one true weakness Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh.
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Male 740
actually i read this on another site. and this part:

"After going through his notebooks, the professors found his work was indeed correct and offered him a place in Uppsala." turned out to be wrong. apparently they said it has been cracked for a while, and that they didnt offer him a thing.

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Female 9,402
And the answer is... 42. See, told you so.
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Male 4,867
smartass...
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Male 10,440
I think what chunkmonkey meant was that the only thing we have left to attain is omnipotence.

...which is wrong anyway.

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Male 1,078
Chunkymonkie:

Like the answer to all other questions, it is obviously 42.

I`ll let you ponder that statement for a second and count how many levels that is wrong on.

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Male 670
"With todays computers such as the MONSTER IBM`s Blue Gene I dont think there are any math problems humanity can be stumped by."

What about the last digit of pi?


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Male 5,314
what a facetious farret
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Male 868
Great job!
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Male 10,440
Paul1582 > THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

This is why we have to remain skeptical. I certainly was, since the chance that a 16yr old would solve that problem is astronomical. Still a clever kid - just don`t believe everything you read.

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Male 1,078
I have a friend like that who is going to MIT next year... he`s 3rd in the USA and won 3rd place in USAMO, and took a Harvard course last year that taught 4 years of Harvard/Harvard grad level math in one year...though I don`t think if he`s as smart as this kid. He did represent the US in the international competition however (yes, there`s an international competition called the IMO) and managed to get a silver medal (medals are based on score, not place, so he did middling)
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Male 7,933
"Will Hunting?"
i was thinking the same thing
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Male 11,740
bastard

Wait nevermind.

After Paul1582`s comment, nevermind. He isn`t the genius everyone thought.

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Male 3,014
"No, he didn`t."

Oh.

Move along people, nothing to see here.

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Male 3,014
His name`s Mohamed?

Holy sh*t guys I think we found the Messiah.

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Male 670
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Male 307
that`s pretty tight.
but i bet people were just really lazy for 300 years...
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Male 1,598
I looked up what it was, and the explanation scared me so I gave up.
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Male 612
With todays computers such as the MONSTER IBM`s Blue Gene I dont think there are any math problems humanity can be stumped by.
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Male 670
now what exactly is this bernoulli numbers equation?
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Female 195
Link: 16 Year-Old Cracks 300 Year-Old Math Problem [Rate Link] - He`ll take over the world someday.
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