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197 Responses to Teen Commits Suicide Due to Bullying

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    TheEx Female 13-17
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    April 2, 2009 at 6:08 pm
    Link: Teen Commits Suicide Due to Bullying - Bully said, ``Why don`t you go home and shoot yourself, no one will miss you.`` Guess what the kid did?
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    meowmeowmeow Male 13-17
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    April 2, 2009 at 6:25 pm
    Really sad
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    DeeCache Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 6:25 pm
    it would suck to be the bully that said that and hear about it the next day
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    hatti369 Female 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 6:26 pm
    so mean
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    Nidonemo Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 6:27 pm
    Just think, that kid could have invented something very useful, designed something absolutely monumental, or created something completely new and amazing.

    Now he can`t.

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    steve41high Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 6:30 pm
    "it would suck to be the bully that said that and hear about it the next day"
    who gives a poo
    i think it would suck a drat load more for the parents
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    jd_rOcCa Male 13-17
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    April 2, 2009 at 6:30 pm
    They`re not gonna win this bullicide lawsuit.

    Maybe more blame should be placed on the school. The kid told his teacher that he was being bullied, and all she did was separate desks. Schools have guidance counselors. She could have told one of them about the problem. It`s like how teachers in NYC are required by law to report any signs that a student may be getting abused at home. (Okay, that one`s more serious, but still.)

    "He may have looked effeminate, was in theater and would wear bright clothes," said Myers. Yay for promoting stereotypes!

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    meowmeowmeow Male 13-17
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    April 2, 2009 at 6:30 pm
    "His class is HELL ON EARTH"
    DOOM 2 REAL LIFE VERSION!
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 6:37 pm
    Only in America
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    jd_rOcCa Male 13-17
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    April 2, 2009 at 6:37 pm
    How can a high school let so many kids commit suicide without addressing the problem? ><

    It may be hard to sympathize with the bully, but the guy is 17, not completely mature, more likely to listen to peer pressure, and less likely than an adult to understand the consequences of his actions. (Isn`t that why the Supreme Court ruled that people under 18 years old can`t receive capital punishment?) He`s going to have this on his conscience for the rest of his life. But yes, he still sucks.

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    skullgrin Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 6:38 pm
    "Now he can`t."

    now he cant because he was a lil bitch...if he killed himself he never had the strength to go far enough to change the world anyways

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    Nidonemo Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 6:40 pm
    Angelmassb: Only in America.

    Oh BULL F*CKING SHIIT!

    You know DAMNED well there`s bullying EVERYWHERE in the world! Goddamn humanity crap! Don`t you dare just generalize one section of the world! THE WHOLE DAMN SPECIES IS AT FAULT!

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    Tia-Shadow Female 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 6:42 pm
    I agree with Nidonemo..
    This kid had potential I`m sure.
    Not to mention, teachers really do need to do more about bullying instead of the standard "Cut it out" remark.
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    aznclueless Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 6:45 pm
    damn. he`s 17 too? and here i thought bullying stopped after elementary school.. guess i got lucky (super duper nerd here)
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    letsgopoping Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 6:46 pm
    dang i hate this crap...hate to see that it`ll get to this point... no wonder there are so many home schoolers...
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    deadmonkee Female 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 6:52 pm
    As sad as this is, I feel no pity or sorrow for people that commit suicide. It`s selfish and weak.
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    patthebaker Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 6:55 pm
    "As sad as this is, I feel no pity or sorrow for people that commit suicide. It`s selfish and weak."
    Its that attitude that attitude that drives people to suicide in the first place.
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    Norris Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 7:01 pm
    Agreed Nidon.

    I hear quite often of kids killing themselves in Japan over crap like this too, its not just America. You should give that idiot the bansauce.

    The teachers in Japan do that crap too. Ive witnesses people stealing other peoples lunches *they generally eat in the same class they are in* right in front of teachers..tell them to knock that crap off, but the teacher doesn`t say a word, hell sometimes laughs at the kid.

    Sadly, the only thing that would have stopped this is the one being bullied to stand up for himself. As I have yet to see someone get bullied anymore after they just punched the person in the face, bullies, by definition are cowardly little poos! (s-hits!)

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    peloos12 Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 7:03 pm
    "As sad as this is, I feel no pity or sorrow for people that commit suicide. It`s selfish and weak. "

    And said weakness is probably from being clinically depressed or another mental illness.

    Just like cancer and disease though, these things can be fought and beaten. On the other hand, unfortunately, mental sickness can also be greatly affected by outside forces -- ignorant, evil people.

    I`d say the bully deserves to live with his dirty conscience for the rest of his life, but being a dickhead is completely curable as well.

    Everybody loses.

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    maceizballin Male 13-17
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    April 2, 2009 at 7:12 pm
    ugh the scum of the earth.
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    almightybob1 Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 7:15 pm
    "As sad as this is, I feel no pity or sorrow for people that commit suicide. It`s selfish and weak."


    What an incredibly insensitive thing to say.

    You feel no pity or sorrow for a guy who was made so miserable from bullying, he eventually decided he would rather end his life than continue being bullied any more?

    You heartless bitch.

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    LastDesprado Male 13-17
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    April 2, 2009 at 7:21 pm
    holy crap, that math teacher has my last name?! weird..
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    simim23 Female 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 7:23 pm
    Coming from someone who was relentlessly made fun of and picked on and told those same words, to go off and shoot myself in the head, etc.... I still think suicide is a weak decision.

    All being picked on did for me is desensitize me to it. If someone throws an insult toward me now, I shrug it off and move on.

    Man, a lot of kids these days seem to have nothing to live for and weakened emotional fortitude. Every little thing kicks their emotional ass.

    "I drated up my homework and now I`m grounded BAWWWWW"

    "I got written up at work for texting BAWWWW"

    and so on.

    I had things thrown at me and I was shoved and even kicked by some people. The hell I gave up.

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    Reverend7x Male 13-17
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    April 2, 2009 at 7:25 pm
    Lucky me, I started homeschooling before I got into high school. Saw what my brother went through and I didn`t want to go through it. I was afraid I`d have to go through the same thing. :P Sucks that there are people who make fun of people smarter than them.

    No one should really use the term "nerd", cuz wanna know who becomes successful in life? Look at Bill Gates. It`s the bullies that become lowlifes in the long run.

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    Aeladil Female 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 7:26 pm
    Being a formerly bullied student, I share the pain and grief that comes from it. For close to 12 years I thought every day something was wrong with me, when there wasn`t. Something was wrong with the people that bullied me. And as much as we, as adults, want to say "it`s only high school, it`ll get better" it`s easy to forget how horrible those years are. No one has the right to make you feel awful. No one has the right to assault you, harass you and make you feel bad.

    More needs to be done to address not only bullying, but mental health illnesses as well. Our ideas of depression, anxiety, etc as the person being weak or stupid are no better than claiming women are not people or that African Americans are animals. They`re antequated and need to be replaced - the ideas, that is.

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    Silverlake Male 13-17
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    April 2, 2009 at 7:27 pm
    norris, if the victim punches the bully in the face, they get suspended because the schools find the victim at fault for "not going to administration for help before taking violent action against another student" and then after a few months the bully is back at it again

    relating to the article, i felt like they were describing me (80% of the discription could be used to describe me) and ive been suicidal before.
    i made an insult to Jews (half my bullies were Jews) and got owned by my parents for it, but it was worth it because they stopped. one bully actually realized what happened to me and befriended me (we are pretty good buds now) and the others just stopped. but then you enter the next year or 2 and you have a whole new set of bullies

    its unfortunate that schools care more about sports than bullying, its kind of why i dont do school sports (i do non-school fencing :-D)

    and it happens all over the world, dont be an ignorant bigot

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    AnwarNova Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 7:28 pm
    I wish the parents wouldn`t just sue the school, but the bullies too.
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    Silverlake Male 13-17
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    April 2, 2009 at 7:29 pm
    simim, while for you and me we thought suicide was a weak decision, people arent born equal, we had a better emotional and mental fortitud before hand

    other people could have been emotionally and mentally weaker and just couldnt take it, and they really thought what the bully said was true
    its unfortunate :-( but its reality, school administration needs to be slapped in the face with it (reality that is

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    Glowy Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 7:36 pm
    Hahaha suicide survivors support group. How bad can you suck at life?
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    Lockon Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 7:36 pm
    This is probably wrong, but I`d like to have that bully alone in a room with people shouting the meanest abuse possible at him. Then he breaks down and kills himself. Wrong I know, but I`m a sucker for poetic justice.
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    Cataclism0 Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 7:47 pm
    4 in a year.


    i dont know what to say, thats insane

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    Elizard Female 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 7:48 pm
    "Mentor high school officials confirmed that a girl and two other boys in Eric`s class had killed themselves in 2007."
    Geez, how bad is it there when 4 kids kill themselves?
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    Lionhart2 Male 40-49
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    April 2, 2009 at 7:58 pm
    He looked effeminate, was a theater buff and wore bright clothes! Got exactly what he deserved, the rebel!
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    OrangeCrow Female 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 8:03 pm
    Well now the bully will live with that bad reputation the rest of his life. His conscious will always remind him that he was responsible for the death of an innocent person. :/

    Also 4 in a year? Oh hell.

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    Quackor Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 8:08 pm
    you have to go on a killing spree before you shoot yourself, not the other way around, you fool!
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    ScottSerious Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 8:13 pm
    cowards way out
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    tannerb924 Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 8:18 pm
    i live like 30 miles from there o_0
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    JimboH Male 30-39
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    April 2, 2009 at 8:19 pm
    This is horrible.

    I know some of you are still in school, so let me say that your social status doesn`t matter in reality. I know it can be hard, but it`s hard for everyone, even the bullies, believe it or not.

    Almost every one of us is nervous and concerned about what others think about us all of the time. Just know you`re not alone, and even those who seem happy or popular are scared of looking like a dork every day they go to school.

    You`re probably never going to get to where this young man was, but if you ever feel you might, talk to someone. Get out of the situation. Do whatever you need to do, but don`t hurt yourself or anybody else.

    And if you do bully any one or don`t stand up for someone who is being bullied, it`s so easy to just stop it. Try it once and know you just made somebody`s life that much better.

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    Victory7 Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 8:19 pm
    Another coward takes the coward`s way out and doesn`t solve his own problems. Do no fathers teach their sons how to be men anymore? Honestly? Suicide because someone told him to? Just deck the bully right in the nose, you get the advantages of feeling awesome and not being harrassed.
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    Asspenny Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 8:21 pm
    yeah this is messed. woulda at least slugged the jackass one before i offed myself
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    Zerro Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 8:23 pm
    Wow. I can`t believe how some of you are responding to this.

    "Cowards way out."
    "As sad as this is, I feel no pity or sorrow for people that commit suicide. It`s selfish and weak."

    He was just a kid. You have no idea what he was going through and it`s not your place to label him like that!

    Yes in your heartless mind it might be considered weak or cowardly, but some kids have problems grasping how meaningless other people`s opinions are and they see it as their only way out.

    Had the education system at hand provided him with counseling and/or stopping the bullying when it was happening RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE FRIGGIN TEACHER, then it probably wouldn`t have happened.

    My prayers are with everyone involved.

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    Asspenny Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 8:23 pm
    oh and i dont really think its that much of a cowards way out. he had the balls to shoot himself in the head, he took control of what he could and went with it. most people dont have that kind of raw courage
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    tuxman4 Male 13-17
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    April 2, 2009 at 8:25 pm
    Someone from my high school was found dead yesterday after supposedly committing suicide. o.O
  44. Profile photo of Victory7
    Victory7 Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 8:30 pm
    "most people dont have that kind of raw courage"

    No way. You are kidding, right? Suicide is one of the most selflish, cowardly, thoughtless things you can do. Do you think the kid thought about how his friends would be devastated for months, how his parents would cry for weeks, how the bully would grow up with that knowledge and maybe go into drugs? No, of course he didn`t, he was just crying over his own sorry ass when he should have been lifting weights and meeting the world head-on instead of relying on better people than himself to solve his problems.

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    dukat Female 50-59
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    April 2, 2009 at 8:42 pm
    Seems to me you can pretty much tell who were/are bullies from the posted comments. People who have no empathy for the kid; no sympathy for the family and friends who might read this. People without empathy become and stay bullies. It is also one of the signs of a serial killer.
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    neveryours Female 13-17
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    April 2, 2009 at 8:51 pm
    =[
    this very sad.
    I`ve dealt with alot of death in my family. That among other things actually has pushed me into diagnosed depression before. So i`ve had suicidal thoughts before. But i cant imagine ever going through with it. But i am rather dissapointed with some of your comments...
    i dont feel like arguing though so im not gonna elaborate.
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    opiebreath Female 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 8:58 pm
    How many funny words can we think of for those with mental illnesses?

    Loony. Cuckoo. Crazy. Basketcase. Emo kid.

    Now how about how many for cancer patients?

    The mind is a part of the body as well, and while most of you are trying to judge his actions based on your logical and linear thinking, you can`t. Why? Because you can`t rationalize an irrational mind. There`s obviously something powerful going on in his head to completely override the natural survival instinct that we all have.

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    bloostarfish Female 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 8:59 pm
    it`s not about "raw courage" or not having "the balls to stand up to the bully/ies" or "should have lifted weights".

    If the person is suicidal already (not in their right mind already), they won`t be thinking about that @ Victory7.

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    smells_like Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 9:01 pm
    I have to agree... some posts on here are very... harsh.

    People have different levels of tolerance, you cant judge him or anyone else for giving up. You just DONT KNOW what they`ve been through. Sure you`ve been pushed around, everyone has. Theres a level though, this invisible threshold that after a while can break.

    Ive gotten to the point of suicide but i didnt go through, now im on meds. The point is, I could have done it, it would have felt wonderful... but it wasnt bravery or cowardace holding me back, it was love, I guess.

    Unless you are put into the situation you have absolutely no right to judge him or anyone who kills themself. Cowardace is nothing... they just didnt have anyone to hold them back. Am I making sence?

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    almightybob1 Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 9:04 pm
    Victory7: Samurai were more man than you`ll ever be, and they committed ritual suicide (called seppuku) to preserve their honour.

    So stop talking crap, and show a bit of compassion for a kid who was so tormented he didn`t want to keep living any more.

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    iceco Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 9:07 pm
    It has nothing to do with strength or cowardice.

    The fact is that the poor kid decided he`d rather take a slug to the head than have to put up with another typical day at school.

    When you`re that kind of depressed, only two things matter: Problem and Solution. Everything else is tuned out.

    I have so little faith in my fellow man already. The internet doesn`t help me. Not in its news. And especially not in most of its commentary.

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    duhastchris Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 9:07 pm
    WTF Victory7 have u ever been bullied and tormented evry day of skool it drats u up and its hard to pull ur self up and fight back wen u just keep getting knocked down it is fudgeing hard i suffered also evry day i went to skool for THE WORST 5 YEARS OF MY LIFE 5 years i suferd i to almost commented suicide i had a nose aorund my neck redy to jump of the stool but i dient i dont y i dient jump sometimes i still wish i did tho
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    duhastchris Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 9:10 pm
    also wen u get tto that lowest point it seems like suicide is the only option u search for answers they all point to ending it all well they did for me i was just luky something stopped me from doing it.
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    oxyl Male 30-39
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    April 2, 2009 at 9:15 pm
    There should be punitive action against the teachers and administrators of the school. It`s horrifying neglect on so many levels. GG =/
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    gatorade777 Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 9:15 pm
    people are called gay on a daily basis maybe the kid should just get over it. anyways if none of us know the whole story why bother having input and opinion
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    gatorade777 Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 9:17 pm
    i definitely agree with you 100% victory7. It`s selfish, cowardly, and thoughtless. well put.
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    duhastchris Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 9:18 pm
    no wate ignore my comment about all options leed to suicide i just rember with me two options showed them selves the bully go or i go in my mind one of us had to die and i think other people may think like that
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    dreadqueen00 Female 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 9:18 pm
    FOUR kids in one year? I can`t even believe that...I think maybe four kids dies throughout 4 years in my high school. That`s horrifying.

    And what`s even more horrifying are your comments, Victory. Not everyone can cope with emotional abuse the way a big, strong, 13-17 year old like yourself--I know, hard to believe, huh? Real harassment can destroy you inside...I went through it years ago, and I still feel the repercussions. Luckily, I was not in a state where suicide was a risk for me. Some kids are not so lucky.... I can`t even imagine what those poor people go through, and I would NEVER claim to.

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    vE Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 9:24 pm
    bullicide? no, he`s just an hero...
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    CharlieA Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 9:26 pm
    Kids in the 13-17 age bracket today are smarter than any other generation of 13-17 year olds who came before them. They "sext" and then kill themselves. They post nude pics on Facebook, My Space and then kill themselves or get fired from their jobs. What is this story about?
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    skullgrin Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 9:29 pm
    i cant believe all of you trying to justify this and actually feel sorry for the kid like its not his fault he`s dead....bullying is NOT that serious, maybe the kid should have stuck up for himself, he was weak and now earth no longer has to worry about taking care of him
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    JAyZn Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 9:38 pm
    @ skullgrin

    that kind of thinking is what lead the nazis to murder thousands of innocents in the holocaust. There goal was to create a supreme race by annihilating those who had flaws in their view. We have a duty to those who may not be the strongest because human life is a precious thing.

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    AndroidMetro Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 9:38 pm
    Good riddance. I blame the parents for not teaching him to stand up for himself.
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    krazyluv Female 13-17
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    April 2, 2009 at 9:43 pm
    God this is just so sad =[
    That poor kid deserved none of this. He reminds me of a few ppl i know. I cant believe that went overlooked.
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    Zerro Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 9:43 pm
    I am in no way justifying suicide.

    I just think that none of us are in the place at calling this kid weak or hero or ANYTHING.
    I completely agree with Opie`s post.

    We don`t know what was going on in his head.
    So stop being so harsh.
    Show empathy the same way you would want people to do if this happened to one of your friends or your kid.

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    sweetinlace Female 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 9:43 pm
    I agree that suicide is selfish, but I still understand why people do it. However, I think that bullying is far more selfish.

    Victory, you said that the kid probably didn`t think about the way his death would effect the bullies. Well, they obviously didn`t think about the way they were effecting him. Or maybe they did think about it and didn`t care. I know that if I ever committed suicide for a reason like that, all I would be able to think about would be the look on the bullies faces the next day and how it would effect them for the rest of their lives. Serves them right if it messes them up. Maybe it will actually teach them a lesson.

    It sucks though. The article said that the bullies felt no remorse...that is really sad.

    And the school thinking that the suicides have no connection to bullying is crap.

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    Victory7 Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 9:48 pm
    To all you posters who say that I`ve never dealt with harrassment, clearly you didn`t think to ask before your mouths shot off. I`ve been picked on all my life, until one day I said "screw this" and challenged this bully to a fight after school. He never showed up and has never talked to me since, (except this week, which I`m going to take care of.). I know EXACTLY, what this kid went through. It`s his own damn fault he let it go on for so long. You can complain about teachers not stopping it, but bullies don`t listen to that crap, they`ll just harrass you in ways the teachers or faculty can`t stop. It is YOUR responsibility to solve your own problems, be it losing your job, fixing your bike, or in this case, other people. When it comes down to it, the only thing stopping a bully are your fists. In fact, that`s what I have to do tomorrow, but that`s a story for another time.
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    sweetinlace Female 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 9:51 pm
    Victory, I agree that you need to deal with your own problems, but he did everything he could think of. I think he just thought he was out of options since it seemed that no one was listening to him. The strong should help protect the weak.
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    Zerro Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 9:51 pm
    Yes Victory you are so tough.

    Your wall of text critically hit me for 10k.

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    jumper4saken Female 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 9:54 pm
    Ugh it makes me so angry that people are saying "bullying is not that serious" and "he should of stood up for himself" and that it`s no excuse to kill yourself.

    You OBVIOUSLY have not been bullied, or at least not that much. Who the hell are you to say how serious it can get? And good for you for being so damn tough, not everyone has the emotion strength to be able to stand up to large groups of people bullying you when you have no one on your side. Especially when you`re a teen.

    I`ve been bullied, and I`ve stood up for myself and acted tough. But when no one was around I`d break down and feel like complete poo. It`s not easy being alone when everyone around you has everything in the world and is super happy. And I didn`t even have it bad compared to a lot of people.

    God you people make me sick. You are why bullying still exists.

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    Victory7 Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 9:58 pm
    Well sweetinlace, the article never mentioned what he personally did to prevent it, and by "help" I believe you mean "teach how to fight and stand up for yourself." It`s a damn harsh world out there, and these politicians with their "anti-bully programs" have their heads so far up their asses, they`re not even considered human anymore.
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    liquidgld9 Male 18-29
    10 posts
    April 2, 2009 at 9:59 pm
    Victory, clearly you cant read. he was 6`1 112lbs. He isnt picking a fight with anyone, particularly a bully who would no doubt be much bigger than him and have a butt buddy nearby. So what do you propose he could of done? Going to teachers is ruled out, as already established. Doesnt sound like he could exactly get up and change schools. A fight doesnt sound like a good idea. Hes too scrawny to likely do any damage, and based on the way the article sounded, i bet the bullies would just love a reason to take a swing at him and not get in trouble. You could say he shoulda worked out. Well, i doubt hed gain muscle very easily, if his family wasnt one of the wealthy in the area, then he would have a hard time even trying to workout. Fact is, school shoulda done something. Tho it is a wonder why his parents didnt pull him out of the school long before this happened.
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    Zokki Male 18-29
    16 posts
    April 2, 2009 at 10:00 pm
    I totally agree with jumper4saken. It`s hard to stand up when you`re alone. In reality many people feel alone and have problems, but most of us are too proud to admit it, and rather face our problems alone than get help. If people weren`t so prideful, we could all live in better harmony...
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    sweetinlace Female 18-29
    4 posts
    April 2, 2009 at 10:04 pm
    The article said that he talked to his teachers, but all they did was move the students to different desks. The kids moved back the next day and continued to do the same thing. He told his parents what was going on, but he didn`t want to be bullied even more for having his mommy and daddy coming to the rescue so he told them that it was under control. Which I suspect he meant that he thought the teachers would be handling it.

    I know that I`m personally not one for confrontation. I`d never stand up to a bully, but that`s just me. I`m just lucky enough to have stronger people around me ready to kick someone`s ass if they`re rude or inappropriate.

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    Concetra Male 18-29
    2050 posts
    April 2, 2009 at 10:04 pm
    @jumper4saken well I was bullied also. When I was in high school this kid thought he was hot stuff for making me feel like poo. So one day I decided to do something about it. I sucker punched him and laid his ass out. I got suspended for a week. He never said anything to me again.
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    Victory7 Male 18-29
    362 posts
    April 2, 2009 at 10:06 pm
    liquidgld9:
    Yes, fighting is exactly what he should have done. Bullies are complete cowards by nature, and the kid would have had WAY more determination and anger in the fight than the bully(ies) did. That`s really all you need in a fight; if you just keep on going at them, they`re going to run away because they are not as dedicated as you are in wanting to feel their nose break against your fist. And if he lost? At least he damn well tried, and he can always come back for a rematch, and in any outcome he would have walked away as a better person. Regardless of what the outcome might have been, standing up for yourself feels better than any emotion I can think of. It brings new insight into your life, and you feel more confident about yourself and you abilities. If only someone had taught the kid this before he off`ed himself.
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    Victory7 Male 18-29
    362 posts
    April 2, 2009 at 10:10 pm
    sweetinlace:
    Well, that`s because you`re a woman, and I would fully expect someone else to come and defend you against an non-nice individual, providing real men still exist in this messed-up world. Bullying for girls and boys are very different, so having someone else beat up a boy`s bully would just make him look like a coward, and probably make him get teased even more.
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    JumpRope Male 18-29
    170 posts
    April 2, 2009 at 10:11 pm
    doesnt this make you think how sick people generally are :D

    as a bully and bullied i know how this garbage works on both ends and it all comes down to people not helping when it is needed most. i blame the bystanders for not doing anything because im sure this kid tried to stand up for himself at times but was over powered.

    people make me sick :D

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    mehh Female 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 10:15 pm
    4 suicides in the same year? Thats f*cked up. I`d take the school to court too. And the c*nts that were doing the bullying

    Concetra: That may work for guys but for girls it`s far more psychological and much harder to defend yourself.

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    Zokki Male 18-29
    16 posts
    April 2, 2009 at 10:17 pm
    Dude, try getting bullied by samoans. There is no reasoning or fighting back. At my school, you take the crap you`re given or get your ass kicked from those weapon-toting giants.
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    pyrojen27 Female 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 10:17 pm
    The kid should have stood up for himself, but there`s nothing to do about it now. I was picked on too, as a kid. You can blame it on the teachers all day (and you`re right!) but the more he hides behind other people the more the bullies will taunt him. They know he`s scared, so they`ll keep doing it. The only way to make bullying stop unfortunately is to do it yourself. The other posters are right, most bullies are cowards. They`ll only bully you as far as you`ll let them. Once you stop letting them, they`ll move onto the next target.
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    ElDavo Male 18-29
    2149 posts
    April 2, 2009 at 10:27 pm
    There were never any bullies at my school. Maybe it had something to do with the athletes and cheerleaders not being glorified like in other schools, while the nerds (like myself) were actually shown some respect. I remember one kid who thought he was hot poo until I proved to him that being 6`2 and over 200 pounds gave me a slight advantage over him. I never fought him, because I showed that I could before I needed to.
  83. Profile photo of liquidgld9
    liquidgld9 Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2009 at 11:01 pm
    Still dont get the "the kid shoulda done somethin" posts. The problem is the system, not the people in it. The article said a teacher moved the desks of the bullies, but they moved back. WTF? That was never allowed in my school. What the teacher said became final. You could ask, and alot of the time teachers would allow it, to move but if its becoming a problem they move you somewhere else and thats where you stay. If you didnt like, you got kicked out. The teachers would only fight with you a few times, at which point theyd start sending you out every day the moment you started pulling the usual bullpoo. This was usuall sufficient to stop disruiptive behavior. This kid was called fag in front of teachers? WoW it was rare that anybody in my school was sent out for language, because everyone knew it would get you kicked out instantly. I dont get it, we pump so much money into the school system and still dont have a good policy in place to keep kids in line.
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    alk3v Male 18-29
    340 posts
    April 2, 2009 at 11:22 pm
    And people blame school shootings on videogames?

    How can anyone seriously say he should`ve `defended himself`? When you`re a smaller guy and being picked on by 4 or so huge football players you can hardly `defend` yourself.
    One on hand I`m glad this kid didn`t use the gun on anyone else, but I wouldn`t be entirely unsympathetic to him if he `picked off` the ones that bullied him.
    Send those f*ckers to juvy for manslaughter or have them tried as adults. Of course I`m assuming the American justice system still works for victims.

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    starfl4ke Female 18-29
    349 posts
    April 2, 2009 at 11:26 pm
    I used to get bullied so badly in school and the teachers never did anything. When I eventually stood up for myself and beat the hell out of this girl who started on me (I had no where to run - flight was my first instinct)I never got bullied again after that!
  86. Profile photo of Lapin
    Lapin Male 13-17
    48 posts
    April 2, 2009 at 11:26 pm
    Wow, that`s just sick.
    I feel sorry for his family. I wish he could have been able to stand up for himself, I wonder why he didn`t tell a teacher or anything like that. This happens a lot more often then you think though. But he just didn`t deserve this.

    And no, Victory, there are more solutions then your fists. Calling for help or telling someone you trust is important, fighting will only get you expelled and possibly in the hospital. It`s not completely his fault that he died, it was the fault of almost everyone, except his friends if you think about it.

    I have been bullied before, such as getting pushed in the hallways, calling "ugly" and "gay" and have things thrown at me in the past. This isn`t about just him though, it`s about everyone who has been bullied and how we can prevent it so it doesn`t lead to things like this. These bullies should have been expelled, it sounds like a terrible school if they let these things happen to innocent kids.

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    KRAYZEEGIRL Female 30-39
    447 posts
    April 2, 2009 at 11:27 pm
    This is sad. What were his parents doing when he was being bullied. There had to be a time of depression before he committed suicide. I guess they didnt pay enough attention to notice. There are going to be little a-holes at every school and in life in general. His parents should have seen the signs and tried to help him. I have been in a similar situation but my parents and family and friends were there. Infact I am now good friends with a few the guys that used to pick on me. There is no reason for a child to even want to commit suicide. I blame the parents for not instilling beter human values and self respect in their child.
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    KRAYZEEGIRL Female 30-39
    447 posts
    April 2, 2009 at 11:36 pm
    The part about the parents teaching their kids values goes for the parents of the bullies too. They may think it is cool or funny that their kid has the ambition to try to control other people but what happens when the kid with low self esteem takes it all away with a shotgun?
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    CheeseMan1 Male 18-29
    1408 posts
    April 2, 2009 at 11:45 pm
    Horrible stuff. It`s a shame seeing people around my age actually doing this... a kid in my school did this as well, and I`m starting to realize how big the problem is. Really a shame.
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    zilla7777 Male 13-17
    204 posts
    April 2, 2009 at 11:47 pm
    i understand how he woulda felt and these "he should`ve stood up for himself" posts are wrong. i tried standing up to four bullies a couple years ago and i was dragged across the basketball court on my face... its hard to stand up for your self when theyre just gonna smash you once you have done all you can and once the damage is done there is no use in trying again. im in high school now (thank god) and its a good school...
  91. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
    7935 posts
    April 2, 2009 at 11:58 pm
    If you have food, shelter, and water every night; your life isnt difficult. Western World suck it up
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    beeyooteeful Female 18-29
    546 posts
    April 2, 2009 at 11:58 pm
    It really boils down to survival of the fittest in high school.

    The kid should`ve gotten some help from SOMEONE.

    Yeah, sure, you shouldn`t physically hit someone. That`s definitely not right - but the verbal abuse is a part of life. We grow up to learn how to fight back and tolerate it, or at least get some help.

    There is no excuse for suicide,
    There is no excuse for not trying to stop the bullies.

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    primetimekin Male 18-29
    7935 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 12:24 am
    Just to further elaborate on my previous point,
    Suicide percentage by country
    With a few oddities, for the most part, the developed nations are the ones with higher suicide rates than poorer nations.

    For every 100,000 people the amount suicide in Haiti in 2003 was 0. Their average income was $793.

    For every 100,000 people the amount of suicide in the United States was 0. Their average incom was $47,025.


    So your telling me that nations were people are struggling to survive, have a stronger will to live?

    I have an idea, lets continue to push through all the little "psychological" excuses and say that his BSL chemicals were in balanced and continue to hand out 120 million a

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    insanmonster Male 18-29
    291 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 12:43 am
    Like most people I agree that suicide is ****ed up but I think kids these days need to grow some huevos! I mean c`mon, when I was in elementary school I was picked on all of the time and I fought back to the best of my ability. When someone took something from me I went after them, I didn`t sit in a corner and cry about it. If people would just learn not to listen to people like that they would be much happier.
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    Evilcupcake Male 30-39
    82 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 12:56 am
    the problem is, that the kids growing up today are protect and shielded from anything and everything that might hurt their feelings.

    most tee-ball teams don`t keep score cause now, cause it will hurt the losing teams feelings, Tag is banned at a lot of schools across the country cause when you single someone out and chase them it hurts their feelings...and so on.

    the problem is that we have created a generation of kids that spineless and have extremely thin skin, they`ve been so over protected that they don`t know how to handle it when they do get their feeling hurt, so they do stuff like this kid.

    when I was growing up and a bully picked on me, my dad told me to just up and beat the poo out of him...and one time I did and that kid never picked on me again, we were taught to pick ourselves up, dust ourselves off and move on, today`s kids are taught to be soft and very fragile

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    Lou-Saydus Male 13-17
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    April 3, 2009 at 12:59 am
    LMFAO! Thanks for a good laugh IAB.
  97. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
    4548 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 1:06 am
    There are different types of bullying.

    I`ve been to probably.. 8 schools due to moving country. Sometimes I was at the cool table, sometimes I was at the nerd table.

    At worst, I was bullied by around 18 kids that went to outright assault, with a total of 3 kids on my side. (Who needless to say didn`t stick up for me).

    The worst I`ve seen is a class of 80 picking on a single kid (even throwing him off a moving bus once), with not a single kid sticking up for him or even befriending him for fear of being bullied too, until I arrived in the school.

    At which point I just said drat it, I`m used to this poo from the last school, I`ll just do it again, and became his friend. Got dropped from the cool table, won a couple of fights, and then other kids started to be brave enough to befriend him too.

    You guys have no idea how bad bullying can get.

    /thread.

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    train_trax Female 13-17
    167 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 1:21 am
    There`s nothing funny about this...

    Evilcupcake, I don`t completely agree... I mean, you`re absolutely right about the whole tee-ball thing, there are a lot of things wrong with that. But judging by your age group, I would say you haven`t been in a public school for a long time?
    Kids take a LOT more poo than this dude did, and most of them don`t kill themselves. They do fight back, trust me, at the school I go to I see at least three fist fights a day. xD
    A lot of parents raise their children the same way you were raised still. Honestly, most parents don`t hold their kids` hands through everything like you`re saying...

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    SoCal Male 18-29
    650 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 1:38 am
    I agree with Evilcupcake actually, He has a good point. I also want to point out that its mostly the parents fault, they probably didn`t listen and also they should have taught him to fight. Whenever i got picked on I always fought with words and my fists and you can actually become friends with your bully after that. Its not that he`s smart that they pick on him it`s because he is quiet and he didn`t stick up for himself properly.

    But I`m not surprised he got bullied, even the counselor knew he was a dorky nerd...

    "These kids," said Klee, "were extremely bright, and thought they were nerds. I say that not in a derogative but in a good sense. These were good kids who were easy targets for bullying."

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    SoCal Male 18-29
    650 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 1:47 am
    "... thought they were nerds. I say that not in a derogative but in a good sense."&#13;&#10;&#13;&#10;How can you say bullies thought they were nerds in a good sense? Or was she saying the bullies thought they were nerds in a good sense? that would contradict her whole theory. that`s how you know most teachers and psychologist shouldn`t be teacher and psychologist
  101. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
    4548 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 1:57 am
    SoCal: It doesn`t always work that way. I won hundreds of fights. Notice that? Hundreds. Shouldn`t it have not had to be hundreds? Shouldn`t it have stopped at me winning say my 10th? 20th?

    It doesn`t stop just because you pummel a kid into the floor. I`ve won fights against several kids at once. Just because you were lucky enough to go to some school where the most you had to deal with was a bully that didn`t know how to handle himself in a fight and started sending you teddy bears and valentines the first time he fell on his ass doesn`t mean that this kid had the same scenario or that everyone does.

    80 vs 1 is the worst I`ve seen. Kids over 6` hitting a kid under 5`, and throwing him from a moving vehicle.

    In the same school we had a group of kids who picked on the mentally handicapped kid in school too. We had 17 year olds picking on the 10 year olds.

    You cannot always win the fight.

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    s0rd3dvis1on Male 18-29
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    April 3, 2009 at 1:58 am
    Im just glad he didn`t take the gun with him to school
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    bataleon27 Male 18-29
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    April 3, 2009 at 2:02 am
    bealthazaq, your whole society is completely messed up
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    bataleon27 Male 18-29
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    April 3, 2009 at 2:07 am
    "I`ve been to probably.. 8 schools due to moving country. Sometimes I was at the cool table, sometimes I was at the nerd table. " This is what is wrong right there. Now i don`t know what other contries are like this but i know that the U.S has a very segregated high school, it seems that there are all these little groups that hate each other and all stick together. In England, or at least in my case it is certainly not like that almost everyone gets on with other people from different friendship groups. Its not seperated into nerds and cool people. Im not saying that the UK is brilliant, we have severe bullying problems too, but i think this segregation is terrible.
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    GlooStikk Male 18-29
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    April 3, 2009 at 2:08 am
    apparently, since baalthazaq has been thru some horrible sh*t, this and other horrible things are deserved? or somehow rational? normal?
    just be because it happens does not mean it should...
    that is why we are looking at this story in the first place
    and you`re usually so smart
  106. Profile photo of binxyboo
    binxyboo Female 30-39
    109 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 2:16 am
    Quote KRAYZEEGIRL: "This is sad. What were his parents doing when he was being bullied. There had to be a time of depression before he committed suicide. I guess they didnt pay enough attention to notice. His parents should have seen the signs and tried to help him."

    Some people hide it so well. The first we knew that my brother was suicidal was when my father found his body.
    Everyday I wish I had seen the signs, but he never put them out for anyone to see.

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    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
    4548 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 2:21 am
    Ok, deleted my last two posts as they were all over the place, Summary:

    Batalean:
    "Your whole society is drated up"
    Really? As I said in my post I went to these schools because I moved country. (I.e. Swapped societies).

    The worst bullying I encountered was Dubai (80:1), the worst bullying I had was in the UK (18:1), and quite frankly had more severe poo done to me there (Due to racism though, not flat out bullying).

    So *your* society.


    Meanwhile the bullies in the Dubai school came from over 30 nationalities. (12% of Dubai is local, rest is foreign).


    Gloo:
    I think you got the wrong end of the stick. I`m on the kids side, I`m arguing against the people thinking you can "just fight back". I`m saying, sometimes you can`t. You`re outnumbered horribly in some cases, and in the case I saw, didn`t even have a friend due to fear of intimidation.

    For all we know that is closer to the scenario he was facing.

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    gorgack2000 Male 13-17
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    April 3, 2009 at 2:55 am
    Baalthazaq- agreed 100%.
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    n3wby Male 18-29
    18 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 3:10 am
    weak... but the bully`s are the weakest. Those who chose to stand back and ignore it are just a punch of short-sighted sheep.
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    Hunny-Sempai Female 13-17
    61 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 3:41 am
    Bullies - They really need to get a life D:<
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    bankvole Male 30-39
    959 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 4:17 am
    fair play to the parents for not wanting money, but just looking to protect other kids
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    ChronicJ Male 18-29
    353 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 5:03 am
    Bullicide??? WTF??? You mean they now have bullies in schools? Lord Jesus what`s next, too much homework?
  113. Profile photo of TalcumX
    TalcumX Male 50-59
    561 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 5:26 am
    It`s a parental and family responsibility to instill initial social skills in their children. People too often forget how cruel children can actually be. They can quickly develope a mob mentality or asocial behavior because their peers are just as clueless as they are when it comes to acceptable behavior. Adults and elders need to be there to set examples and guide them. Involvement in a childs mental development is crucial to creating a stable psychological/social foundation. I witnessed first hand how such an event transpires, and still regret to this day` that I did nothing to prevent my brother from killing himself.
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    samidoll Female 18-29
    615 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 5:29 am
    this made me wanna cry, he reminds me of a family member of mine that gets picked on. but ever since he was little we`ve had him do other things too so he felt worth it, yknow? i just hate seeing kids who feel like they honestly have no other option.
  115. Profile photo of AtomicSkier9
    AtomicSkier9 Male 18-29
    1085 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 5:39 am
    You know what`s even more sick than bullying? The fact the school believes there is no problem with bullies, and they don`t see it`s a problem. When a students commits suicide because of a problem that is happening within the school year, then it is a big, major problem that should be fixed.

    It`s saddening to read what the parents, friends, and family are going through. I used to be depressed, and I used to be suicidal (never actually attempted it), but I was. I was bullied constantly, heckled, and treated like pure poo. Not fun.

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    Dr_Sexy Male 30-39
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    April 3, 2009 at 5:40 am
    bullicide? more like bullis.hit

    this must have been going on for years and the parent`s/teachers did drat all

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    Dr_Sexy Male 30-39
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    April 3, 2009 at 5:42 am
    teach your kids to eat other kids
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    littlepete50 Male 18-29
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    April 3, 2009 at 5:46 am
    minaxi, stop posting links to some bloody bike!!!
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14268 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 6:05 am
    Geeee look a school that prioritizes sports over an education that crap needs to stop.

    @Baalthazaq
    your dead on I`ve seen and been in those situations too.

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    pmarren Male 40-49
    4575 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 6:21 am
    On the positive side, he didn`t go postal and shoot-up the whole school. I`ll give the kid credit there.
  121. Profile photo of splurbyburbl
    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
    2798 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 6:26 am
    This is a product of our current societies` frame of mind. This whole idea that teachers cannot also be enforcers is drated up. It`s even more drated up that some, if not most of these teachers also don`t know how to be enforcers if they wished as well.

    The point is, we as a society have taken away almost every single means in which any teacher can keep good order and discipline adn then when something goes to hell like this, someone wants to sue.

    So let`s recap here... we will sue teachers for yelling... we will sue teachers if they look at kids "funny".... we w ill also sue teachers if they do not "protect" other students from abuse.

    I guess now all we gotta do is figure out a way we can protect others from abuse without touching, yelling or looking at people funny. Maybe if they pass out lolli-pops in class it will all just go away. What do you all think?

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    vonKaiser Male 18-29
    108 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 6:36 am
    I was much in the same position as this kid, used to try to get out of going to school everyday because of it. Sadly the only thing that stopped it was when I couldn`t take anymore and ended up breaking one of their jaws and fracturing his skull by slamming it into locker repeatedly. Years of daily torment can build and make those shy/passive kids do something completely out of character. Sadly he shot himself where a masterlock in a sock on one or two of the bullies might have worked as well
  123. Profile photo of alice_x
    alice_x Female 18-29
    5140 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 6:37 am
    "Most of the harassment took place in math class and the teacher -- an athletic coach -- was accused of failing to protect the boy."

    Thats disgusting if he really didn`t do anything

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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14268 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 6:38 am
    Anyone saying it`s selfish and weak needs to take a look at the irony of what your saying.
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    diablito66 Male 18-29
    63 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 6:58 am
    i fought some bully at skool for bullying at some kid i didnt even get suspended since the i fight ppl who pick on kids.....makes you feel like a hero if only this kid came to my skool i would kick that fools ass for bullying him
    R.I.P dude
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    tiggerwitch1 Female 18-29
    587 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 7:08 am
    "Sadly he shot himself where a masterlock in a sock on one or two of the bullies might have worked as well"
    as twisted as this is, i totally agree
    i snapped when i was in grammar school by taking one of those really heavy textbooks and swung across a boy`s face...dont mess with the smart kids
  127. Profile photo of kokuryuha
    kokuryuha Female 18-29
    208 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 7:21 am
    This is further proof of how vicious kids can be...
  128. Profile photo of skullgrin
    skullgrin Male 18-29
    937 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 7:24 am
    is i-am-bored filled with losers or what? dealing with bullies is very easy, it doesnt matter if you are out numbered, it doesnt matter if you are are smaller....none of that matters when dealing with a bully because there is always a way to even the odds
  129. Profile photo of Randy4861
    Randy4861 Male 40-49
    187 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 7:30 am
    So they call it "bullicide" now? Just another excuse for these parents that raise weak minded kids. Bullying has always occurred, and will always continue. Its up to the parents to prepare a child to be able to mentally handle it. Bill Gates was constantly bullied, and look where he is. He`s still a geek, but I`d trade him places.
    Something like this is a sad event, and is always blow up by the press and the internet society. Parents today always look to blame others for their own failure. They failed their child. Bullying exists not only in schools, but in the work place and every facet of society. Keep coddling the children of today, and we will be a nation of cry babies tomorrow. Oh wait, we already are.
    I blame the parents of the kid, as well as the parents of the bullies.
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    skullgrin Male 18-29
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    April 3, 2009 at 7:42 am
    good post randy, you were on point
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    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    April 3, 2009 at 7:44 am
    I have to say I`m in agreement with Splurby here on this matter. Teachers are at a massive disadvantage.

    I have a friend who teaches a "special needs" school. Except the special needs aren`t a handicap, it`s basically a school for kids other schools can`t accept as a danger to other students.

    They have applied for and gotten some sort of "allowance" in that school to restrain pupils. I.e. That school specifically applied for and got the right to restrain students.

    I have no idea why this is not available to all teachers with some justification.

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    iLove Female 18-29
    676 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 7:57 am
    I can see both sides of the argument here... having been bullied myself in school, I definitely understand the feelings that go along with it. Fear, frustration, confusion, hopelessness. And to those of you who say "it`s just bullying", I`m going to guess you were on the other side of things, or a bystander. It`s completely different when you`re the one being herded into a corner by 4 or 5 people, being poked, pushed, and having insults hissed in your face, having to worry about getting from class to class as fast as possible because "they" might find you, knowing that teachers can`t/won`t do anything.
    On the other hand, I stood up to my bullies and got lucky - they backed off. Not everyone is so lucky, and bullying seems to have gotten so much worse since even I was in school, but just taking it is a bad idea, and actually believing the things they`ll tell you is even worse, which is something the parents of this kid should have made sure he knew.
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    frumgf Female 18-29
    164 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 8:50 am
    I wasn`t necessarily bullied in school but I did get pretty fed up with the immature bullsh.it that happened everyday. So I left to be homeschooled so I could graduate early and man, college is so much better =p
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    Boredx12 Female 13-17
    1654 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 9:06 am
    Poor kid :(
    They hardly ever seem to do anything about it any more.
    School sort of sucks, college is around 12,000 times better. What they should do is have better pastoral care.

    Randy, I think you are wrong but that is partially because I was bullied myself. I can see your point but I was never weak minded as you put it until I was bullied, during and after which I pretty much hated myself until I got some therapy. Now Im fine. It`s not fair to blame my parents so much as blaming the bullies for raising their kids to be douches to other people`s kids.

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    pyrojen27 Female 18-29
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    April 3, 2009 at 9:40 am
    You people who are blaming it on the teachers and the parents don`t get it! Yes, they should have tried to do something. It`s their job. But that would have only made it worse. It would have shown the bullies that he was weak, and that they could keep picking on him. You don`t have to use your fists. I never punched anybody who tried to bully me. I just made it clear that it wasn`t going to work by ignoring them or telling them to f*** off. If the teachers and parents get involved, it would seem like he hid behind them (especially being a male), and they would just find other ways to do it.
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    Mikeado Male 18-29
    2159 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 10:15 am
    GRRR *Massive debate* GRRR.

    Do you guys seriously have no anti-bullying measures? We even have an anti-bullying week in the school year. Bullying is taken hugely seriously, nowadays even any reported `cyber-bullying` like on MSN, Facebook etc.

    Some schools are just hapless.

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    yepimbored Male 30-39
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    April 3, 2009 at 11:27 am
    I see a lot of comments are from 13-29 year olds. I`m 34 years old and never in my life thought I would sound like my parents, but kids today are TOO SOFT! Toughen up! I know your parents disinfect everything around you and take you to the emergency room if you skin your precious little knee, but come on! The real world is NOT what you experience while you`re in school- not even college. You aren`t protected from every bad thing that could happen. You`ve got to learn to pick your battles. So what if someone says something about you or to you? Will it matter 2 weeks from now? I know a week is an eternity in the life of a teen, but in the greater scheme of things, it`s a big world and you most likely won`t have to deal with 99% of the people with whom you graduate. If someone`s bullying you, walk away. Don`t let them know it gets to you. A jackass isn`t worth your life. These years go by so quickly- get through it and I promise you`ll laugh about it later on! My 2¢
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    ericdee Male 18-29
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    April 3, 2009 at 11:45 am
    You can find his profile on MySpace, it`s public.

    He was really likable, too. ): I would have been his friend.

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    SherbertFizz Female 18-29
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    April 3, 2009 at 11:53 am
    yepimbored, sure that is the easiest thing to say once you`ve done it. But I`m sure you wouldn`t tell a woman in labour to stop complaining because it will be over soon.
    The fact of the matter is kids get worse and worse as time goes on not weaker and weaker, plus teenagers go through so many hormonal changes during puberty it is actually not their fault it’s like when women suffer from post-natal. There is actually a hormone which in fully development adults decreases stress and increases endorphins; during years of adolescence it creates stress and anxiety.
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    Invisible2U Female 30-39
    107 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 11:57 am
    " If someone`s bullying you, walk away. Don`t let them know it gets to you. A jackass isn`t worth your life. These years go by so quickly- get through it and I promise you`ll laugh about it later on! My 2¢"

    The only people who would say this are the ones who`ve never been through it. Try going through the sh*t every single day from Kindergarten to HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATION...EVERY DAY...and tell me how easy it is to `walk away and just forget about it`.

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    edana42 Female 50-59
    2509 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 12:00 pm
    Geeze, those who dish the crap are the only ones to blame. For whatever reason they chose to pick on others, it is unacceptable. You who tell people to "suck it up", or ignore it (teachers, school), or it`s the parents fault live in denial. The pain and the hurt are real and all of you who make excuses only contribute to the issue. Oh, and no, I didn`t get bullied. I`ve just see enough of it in the school as an assistant to the teachers. Going postal in the school or killing yourself is horribly wrong, but I can see why it happens.
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    marencolleen Female 18-29
    531 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 12:07 pm
    i am confused. Is the media taking bullying and blowing it out of porportion, or is bullying a seriously rising problem, or are kids just more sensitive than they used to be?
    I`ve only been out of school for 5 years, but only one in my age group has ever killed themselves intentionally, and that was after highschool. He was accused of a rape that never happened, but he didn`t want to put his family through the disgrace (in montana, it doesn`t really matter if it happened, if you are accused, you`re effed). i remember a kid 7 years ahead of me shot himself his senior year, and another one three years ahead of me shot himself after he had been out of school and alcohol was involved. there were a few kids that were bullied in my grade, most of them dropped out though or switched to the alternative learning school. is my town just oddly serene? i mean there were about 900 kids in both of the public highschools in my town that graduated in 04.
  143. Profile photo of yepimbored
    yepimbored Male 30-39
    131 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 12:10 pm
    Had to respond. 5 different schools in 5 different cities as my parents moved across the country. I was the shy kid, "A" student and I had my share of people calling me a nerd, punching me in the stomach, back, etc. I was 125 lbs 5`11" soaking wet. I never let them know it got to me. They would make comments and I would walk on past. Yes, I`ve been through it. Slammed into my locker, been "pants-ed" in phys ed, stabbed with a pencil, spit on. I just didn`t care enough to get worked up about what other people thought about me. I knew who I was, what my values were and just realized that I had to deal with ignorant trash. As for hormonal changes, I know exactly what you`re talking about. Assuring the woman in labor that it is normal doesn`t lessen the pain, but it`s reassuring that it`s not unique to her. Letting kids who are bullied know that they are not alone was my point. Yes, it hurts, but it`s not worth killing yourself over what another person s
  144. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    April 3, 2009 at 12:21 pm
    "The only people who would say this are the ones who`ve never been through it. Try going through the sh*t every single day from Kindergarten to HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATION...EVERY DAY...and tell me how easy it is to `walk away and just forget about it`."

    Don`t give me that Bullpoo. By week 1 of pre-k I was bullied. What happened? A kid pushed me, a pushed back harder. Anytime someone would try me in elementary I made sure I got them back.

    Middle school, a lot harder. At this point the bullies actually new how to fight and I got scrapped, mugged a few times, always fought back. The 5 to 1`s were a common occurrence but after a while I went from being mugged by bullies to getting their respect for not quitting. By Highschool, no one bullies me.

    I have a research paper due on any topic i chose, and im definitely doing it on the softness of western society.

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    primetimekin Male 18-29
    7935 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 12:22 pm
    " I`m 34 years old and never in my life thought I would sound like my parents, but kids today are TOO SOFT! Toughen up!"

    The sad thing is, parents today arent like that.

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    ForAllThSin Male 18-29
    273 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 12:42 pm
    good, i`m tired of cry babies
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    SyXxlunatic Male 13-17
    177 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 1:04 pm
    well, i can sympathise with him, im called all this every day in school, but you dont see me shooting myself.
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    skibblesx Male 18-29
    31 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 1:12 pm
    "who counseled two of the surviving families" What did they survive again?
  149. Profile photo of Androgynous
    Androgynous Male 18-29
    757 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 1:53 pm
    I`ve been bullied since before old enough to understand what "Bullying" was." Try being the first open homosexual in class, the first boy to wear a full face of make-up and heels to school, and then tell me about "Bullying". I`ve been spit on, shoved, hit and had things thrown at me from outside of car windows. I`ve had a broken tail bone from being kicked after being pushed down on the floor, and a broken nose from 6 football players taking turns trying to beat the drat out of me...and the teachers "Didn`t see it" on the cameras. If a small boy with flawless make-up and 6 inch stiletto heels can box out a few boys, handle himself while getting jumped, and giggle after his nose is broke I don`t understand why others have such a hard time.
    *Sigh*...but, it`s still a tragedy. Poor kid.
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    Razamire Female 18-29
    660 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 2:00 pm
    I don`t see this big change of mentality that everyone seems to be chanting. People have always found suicide victims weak. And luckily not all people tell them to hush and toughen up,me for example. The fact is,depression is often a per exposed illness and hopefully people who are suicidal can get the help they need before something like bullying happens.

    We might not laugh out loud (generally not) and sell tickets to see people die,our nature haven`t change much. People still kill themselves and people still kill each other and luckily some people care enough to listen and maybe help. Nothing changes when you dont care. That is not hard to figure out.

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    Loxen Female 30-39
    1387 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 2:05 pm
    Nidonemo said: " Just think, that kid could have invented something very useful, designed something absolutely monumental, or created something completely new and amazing.
    Now he can`t."
    To add some insult, the steroidhead jocks that teased him will probably never acomplish anything other than having a boatload of kids (future bully spawn) and being able to drink their buddies under the table on poker night.
  152. Profile photo of yoimmylene
    yoimmylene Female 13-17
    2065 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 2:08 pm
    That school is really screwed up. What a loss...that kid was good looking and talented.
  153. Profile photo of marencolleen
    marencolleen Female 18-29
    531 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 2:19 pm
    for those of you who, for lack of a better phrase, are interested in what bullying can lead to, try reading "The Body Of Christopher Creed" by Carol Plum-Ucci. It`s a very powerful book about an unpopular kid who was picked on who just disapeared one day and how a popular kid named Tori deals with the disappearance. It is an amazing book and completely changed my view on how i treat people.
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    undeadonion Female 18-29
    213 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 2:28 pm
    I reallllly hope randy4861 is a troll
  155. Profile photo of Shellie84
    Shellie84 Female 18-29
    4197 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 2:30 pm
    that disgusts me and scares me for my own kids future. I truly hope my kids never get bullied to this extent

    i hope this kids family can find some closure and SOMEBODY takes responsibility for this young boys death :(

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    bananajojo Female 18-29
    1401 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 3:03 pm
    girls are worse than guys. seriously theyre the ones who are viscious, and in my school, teachers FAVOR the "popular" girls, who will, one day, get knocked up and then become fat and ugly.

    yay kharma

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    outfire Male 13-17
    524 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 3:08 pm
    Man, sucks that this happened. Whether it was the parents, the school, or the bullies who were at fault, let me just say that fighting back would not work at my school lol. Most sheltered school in the world, bully punches you, you punch back, you`re both out of there lol, no questions asked. Not a single case of physical bullying as far as i can remember.
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    jareddevour Male 18-29
    288 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 3:15 pm
    It really says something about the family that they`re not asking for any money in the lawsuit. Just an anti-bullying program.

    What a horrible situation.

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    ze_pilot Male 13-17
    127 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 3:18 pm
    And this is on national teen suicide prevention week...

    We had a speaker come just yesterday talking about exactly this.

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    ichirei Female 13-17
    165 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 3:22 pm
    what really pisses me off is that no one tried to help him, non of the other students, the teachers, or just... anyone. Just imagine how alone he felt in the world, he could`ve been a genius, but no. Now for the future, we have horrible pigs that get their pleasure by insulting and treating others like poo
  161. Profile photo of britt566
    britt566 Female 18-29
    2290 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 3:24 pm
    Wow... in my state. I think I knew him once.... a few years ago... but yeah... this has happened to me before... it took everything in me not to kill myself.... and I`m still here. but it`s all good now. My heart goes out to all of his family. The people who bullied him need a taste of their own f*cking meds.
  162. Profile photo of lilhawk2892
    lilhawk2892 Male 13-17
    221 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 3:32 pm
    "It really says something about the family that they`re not asking for any money in the lawsuit. Just an anti-bullying program"

    i completely agree. after reading all three pages. the school officials wouldnt even comment, and i disagree anti bullying programs are needed. i just think they need to kick the teachers asses or bring in some drill seargants. whats wrong with these officials to not realise theres a problem after the first dratin death. let alone 3. in hamilton ontario i go to delta secondary. which i would consider a pretty hardknock school. and we have never had a murder or suicide in probably 25+ years. whats wrong with this school... whats wrong with these teachers... drat it. whats wrong with these students?

  163. Profile photo of polskapoop
    polskapoop Male 18-29
    40 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 4:04 pm
    simply heartbreaking..
  164. Profile photo of MissMage
    MissMage Female 18-29
    695 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 4:19 pm
    I`ve been fortunate enough to have never really been bullied throughout school. Actually I never even saw any bullying at any of the schools I went to. Bullying is such an unfounded hate act. I still don`t understand what on earth posesses people to do it...
  165. Profile photo of alfietoon
    alfietoon Male 18-29
    1164 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 5:01 pm
    hmm so he listened to dickheads... shame he didnt last to working in an office he would have been promoted quickly
  166. Profile photo of Glowy
    Glowy Male 18-29
    354 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 5:26 pm
    People need to toughen up and stop sympathizing people like this. If you`re going to kill yourself just do it and if you know someone who killed themselves, who cares? It was their decision, stop being so depressed. Most importantly don`t feel sorry for them. And to all the people saying how awesome this guy would have grown up and been and the great things he would do and invent and all the jobs he could have had, think about it. The guy couldn`t even handle high school life. How exactly do you expect him to get anywhere in the real world? Some of you are definitley going to be surprised of what your future will hold.
  167. Profile photo of Moperyman
    Moperyman Male 18-29
    56 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 5:43 pm
    HAHAHAHA he had a funny face
  168. Profile photo of Tisjokar
    Tisjokar Male 18-29
    985 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 5:54 pm
    This is very sad.
    For about a month i was bullied by this tool because i was really good friends with someone he liked, so he bullied me calling me a fag,dick, gay and constantly hitting me, i punched him in the face, and was almost suspended, nothing was done to him because he knew the owners of the school through family. Teachers knew it was happening and nothing was done. I wasent a dumb kid, i was prety much at the top of my year, so was my chick friend. After a while people started noticing, and my year group arent a bunch of tool, they stood up for me and he left the school, I guess i was pretty lucky.
  169. Profile photo of Tisjokar
    Tisjokar Male 18-29
    985 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 5:56 pm
    And also, i wasent no ugly kid, i guess he was just jelouse because i ended up with the hot chick he wanted :-D
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    crimsonattck Male 18-29
    364 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 6:18 pm
    not all football players are jerks..
  171. Profile photo of Yosemine
    Yosemine Male 18-29
    92 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 6:21 pm
    Listen guys, I was bullied in 6th and 7th grade all the time, and in 10th grade now I still harbor extreme hate towards them, and... well let`s not go on to the specifics of what I`d like to do to them. The point is, in middle school, I couldn`t, and I don`t think some of you realize this. Why couldn`t I? Because, I`ll admit it, I was physically weak, and I have that skinny build that in no way would allow me to defend myself against people much bigger than me. Before people rush out and tell me to work out, I`ll say I do run in track every day, and I`m pretty fast, and we do pushups and everything, but it`s just genetics and unless I do some serious lifing that`s the way I am. You just CAN`T physically defend yourself if you don`t have the muscle, and you have to take all the verbal sh*t from the bullies, with no way to retaliate. All I could ever do was run away because I can run fast. And a lot of people can`t even run fast to get away if necessary, imagine how that feels?
  172. Profile photo of Yosemine
    Yosemine Male 18-29
    92 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 6:25 pm
    (1000 characters). Some people may do the old "Sticks and stones may break my bones but words can never hurt me" thing. BS. These guys called me all sorts of things, and I couldn`t do anything. If I called them anything back, I`d get my @ss beat. Oh, and guess what the P.E. teachers did over this obvious bullying? That`s right, nothing at all. Now, it`s true that I stuck through it and didn`t kill myself, and that is no solution for a problem like this. It just hurts everybody. But have a bit of sympathy.
  173. Profile photo of Odd_Mindset
    Odd_Mindset Male 13-17
    142 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 6:40 pm
    That annoys me...
    The thing with bullying is... yeah, it seems all fun and whatever until the kid you bully comes to school with a gun and unloads on everyone who gives him crap.
    If your gonna bully somebody, bully somebody who has a good chance of kicking your ass in a fight, because it`s better than being shot.
  174. Profile photo of Tisjokar
    Tisjokar Male 18-29
    985 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 6:47 pm
    Same yosemine, its horrible, you shouldent be forced to go to school where you will just get your faced punched in for an unknown cause while teachers sit back and do nothing. Constantly in PE non-prac work you learn all how bad it is, but they do nothing, its horrible. I will just love the day i see them and there like is fail.
    There was one teacher in my school who came after the bully left, she really cared for me because she said i reminded her of her son (scary). she said that when she was doing a soliciter in court, she was up agienst the person who bullied her all her life and they were up for assult charges, i would just love the feeling
  175. Profile photo of bellamh
    bellamh Female 18-29
    1 post
    April 3, 2009 at 7:54 pm
    @Glowy, are you frigging kidding? You`re the one who needs a reality check about the future. Could you seriously be any more insensitive? It may be their decision to kill themselves but because of bullies and probably people like you. They have been tormented to the point of mental instability, therefore see suicide as their only choice - it runs a lot deeper than just being depressed, so dont act like you understand when you so clearly dont, maybe you should read a psychology book and get some knowledge.
    I feel sympathetic for the kid, because he had no options, no help. He had nowhere to turn, and yes it has been proven bullying can cause mental problems - some people can only be pushed so far before having to resort to suicide, and sadly he did. A person has now lost their life, true they pulled the trigger but it was the bullies holding the gun to his head (metaphorically speaking).
  176. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
    7935 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 8:03 pm
    " And to all the people saying how awesome this guy would have grown up and been and the great things he would do and invent and all the jobs he could have had, think about it. The guy couldn`t even handle high school life. "

    Absolutely correct

    "You just CAN`T physically defend yourself if you don`t have the muscle, and you have to take all the verbal sh*t from the bullies, with no way to retaliate. "

    Muscle is overrated. You said you have speed. I dont care how strong someone is, if you can hit them and they cant hit you, you win

    " when you so clearly dont, maybe you should read a psychology book and get some knowledge."

    Depression doesn`t exist. Psychologist are afraid to admit that Depression is a Choice

  177. Profile photo of Yosemine
    Yosemine Male 18-29
    92 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 8:16 pm
    "Muscle is overrated. You said you have speed. I dont care how strong someone is, if you can hit them and they cant hit you, you win"

    True, in a way. But if they grabbed a hold of me, I`m screwed. But I digress, this isn`t a story about how to fight, it`s a story about bullying. I agree with others saying that suicide is never needed, because it does nothing. I even somewhat agree that suicide is the coward`s way out, and it leaves others in a horrible state. I also don`t think parents need to baby their kids like they do, and give them medication for a runny nose. But still, bullying is a lot more taxing on a person than some may think, trust me on that. The fact I still feel such hate for people I haven`t seen for three years, will never effect my life again, and that live 1200 miles away now says it all.

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    gcamaro32 Male 70 & Over
    242 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 9:34 pm
    One less weak link in the chain...

    Our gene pool is cleaner without him.

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    Negative_One Male 30-39
    2583 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 10:06 pm
    "You just CAN`T physically defend yourself if you don`t have the muscle, and you have to take all the verbal sh*t from the bullies, with no way to retaliate."
    ------------------------------------------
    Me and my friend Smith & Wesson disagree.
  180. Profile photo of Ninjakunai2
    Ninjakunai2 Male 13-17
    221 posts
    April 3, 2009 at 10:30 pm
    People need to understand things from the one being bullied`s point of view... I can`t beleive how many insensitive people there are on this site!!! It`s probably because you were never the one being bullied! Think about it!
  181. Profile photo of Skeezer1991
    Skeezer1991 Male 18-29
    721 posts
    April 4, 2009 at 12:13 am
    This exact thing happened in my school freshmen year. The even sadder part is the kid that urged him to kill himself ended up spitting on the memorial that was set up and saying he was glad it happened. He ended up getting the sh*t beaten out of him and eventually had to transfer schools, but it`s sad that there are sick f*cks like that in this world. :-/
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    Skeezer1991 Male 18-29
    721 posts
    April 4, 2009 at 12:30 am
    And it`s kinda upsetting that people don`t really understand suicide. I just read some of the older comments that said stuff like "suicide is a weak decision" or a "coward`s way out" etc. But you have to understand that suicide isn`t just something you "do", you really gotta be mentally f*cked up to do something like that. I mean, it`s putting an END to your life as you know it. It`s not just something you go and do cuz you want people to feel sorry for you or for a bully to feel guilty for harassing you. I dunno, I guess I shouldn`t be preaching cuz I`ve never really been depressed or suicidal before, it`s just something to think about.
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    blargendarg Male 30-39
    376 posts
    April 4, 2009 at 12:42 am
    i got bullied some in high school. i avoided them, pushed back when i could, made friends, threw myself into what i liked and in the end they showed me respect. #1 reason: great parents
  184. Profile photo of BunnyNaku
    BunnyNaku Female 18-29
    5224 posts
    April 4, 2009 at 6:06 am
    my heart goes out to the victims of such heartless bullies who push children into this.. theyll get whats comming to them. And whats sad too is that the parents of such bullies never step up to take action in their childrens lives. What goes around comes around thats for sure.
    And people wonder why all those school shootings happened.. the children retaliate the only way they know how.. it all very heartbreaking
  185. Profile photo of duhastchris
    duhastchris Male 18-29
    88 posts
    April 4, 2009 at 6:13 am
    agne victory7 ok i now know u to have coped it as well but u r just one of the people different for me and this kid u probily had the confidence to open ur mouth or fight back or what ever but people like me and eric mohat we dont have as much confidence and also id dont what ur body size is or whats it was wen u decide to fight bak

    but some of us are week little nerds and if we do fight we will just be knocked down hard and not all bullies are cowards some know that they can kick the poo out of u i almost fought back onece but i was shoved tot eh ground and was kiked in the side a

    (THIS IS WHAT MY BULLIE SED COS I FORGHET BACK)

    DONT BE A dratING HERO KNOW UR PLACE

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    Groogle Male 30-39
    2172 posts
    April 5, 2009 at 12:01 am
    And nothing of value was lost.

    This may sound harsh but if the kid can`t take it like a man it means he wont make it as an adult in our society because of the economical system we live in.

    Altruism for people like that is the cancer that is going to kill our economy.

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    klgrl7681 Female 18-29
    70 posts
    April 5, 2009 at 1:37 am
    So sad. I was bullied in HS as well. Although, it was more verbal than physical. I grew up going to Chicago schools which are over-crowded like this school. A lot of the teachers don`t give a crap. How do parents miss these things? Are kids that good at hiding it or do the parents not involve themselves in their kids` life? I know I only made through because I`ve always been very strong (mentally, spiritually) and always have been able to bounce back pretty quick.
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    dragonshadoz Female 18-29
    4031 posts
    April 5, 2009 at 5:13 am
    I think it`s silly when people try to make some kid`s suicide less by saying something like, "I was bullied too! I sucked it up and got through it."
    Heh. Like every situation is the same. Pity.
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    moefreak Female 18-29
    1963 posts
    April 5, 2009 at 6:34 pm
    This is just terrible. There`s nothing sadder than kids killing themselves... they don`t even know what kind of a life they missed out on.
    And groogle... no that`s not harsh at all. Being totally heartless and nonchalant in the face of human suffering isn`t harsh, nor is making some ridiculous analogy to the economy harsh. Not at all.
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    moefreak Female 18-29
    1963 posts
    April 5, 2009 at 6:36 pm
    And no way did you just say that depression doesn`t exist, prime.
    Go study some neuropsychology before making claims like that.
    I`m sure you think neurotransmitters like serotonin don`t exist either.
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    moefreak Female 18-29
    1963 posts
    April 5, 2009 at 6:40 pm
    Oh and I`m not impressed by that link to the page of a book written by some random woman, who as far as I can tell has no university degrees in psychology, psychiatry or medicine, and has won awards for writing children`s books.
    How`s about reading some peer reviewed, well researched scholarly articles in respectable journals.
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    StapleMeElmo Male 18-29
    1029 posts
    April 5, 2009 at 6:42 pm
    my heart goes out to the victims of such heartless bullies who push children into this.. theyll get whats comming to them. And whats sad too is that the parents of such bullies never step up to take action in their childrens lives. What goes around comes around thats for sure.
    And people wonder why all those school shootings happened.. the children retaliate the only way they know how.. it all very heartbreaking
    -------------------------------------

    Did you ever wonder why bullies are bullies? Is it because they are heartless? They retaliate the only way they know how.. By listening to other kids who tell them to commit suicide? Seriously I think there are other options.

    I`m gonna go ahead and call retard on your comment.

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    Invisible2U Female 30-39
    107 posts
    April 5, 2009 at 11:10 pm
    "Don`t give me that Bullpoo. By week 1 of pre-k I was bullied. What happened? A kid pushed me, a pushed back harder. Anytime someone would try me in elementary I made sure I got them back."

    Gee, aren`t you the lucky one! I stood up to my bullies once too. Right after one of them pulled a gun on me and told me they were going to blow me to bits to see "HOW FAR THE FAT WOULD FLY!" I`m so happy for you that you got the upper hand unlike 99% of the population! You cannot CANNOT say it`s bullpoo because it`s not like your way. Standing up to bullies doesn`t always make for a happy ending. Those who say to ignore it or stand up for themselves ARE THOSE WHO HAVE NEVER BEEN THERE!!!
    Not every single situation is the same and your situation is by far the most UNUSUAL to happen. You absolutely Cannot speak for the thousands, millions of us who didn`t get as wonderfully lucky as you!

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    Holly69 Female 18-29
    250 posts
    April 6, 2009 at 8:52 am
    completly can relate to this...same kinda stuff happened to me...fortunatly i had the support there....but help should be there for the bullies as well as the victims as both parties have serious issues.
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    ctucker Male 18-29
    128 posts
    April 6, 2009 at 6:03 pm
    I was bulliedmore than any other kid at a school I went to. I`m from Kentucky and went to school in Indiana and was instantly an outcast. That was until I beat the hell out of one of their football players and they decided I wasn`t worth their time. Kids need to stand up for themselves. I know being bullied sucks but people need to defend themselves.
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    iceco Male 18-29
    105 posts
    April 11, 2009 at 2:44 pm
    @Glowy

    I`m very curious to see what kind of future you`ll have as well. Remember that it goes both ways.

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    NelleBell Female 18-29
    8 posts
    July 17, 2010 at 9:07 pm
    Poor kid. That ain`t right. Even when I was a teenager I didn`t understand the appeal of making fun of others. Why can`t people just live and let live?

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