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Date: 04/12/09 12:50 PM

214 Responses to Science Professor Proves God Exists

  1. Profile photo of Pooptart19
    Pooptart19 Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 12:50 pm
    Link: Science Professor Proves God Exists - Jesus + Quantum Physics + A tasty piece of Pi = God. Of course! It`s so obvious!
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    vitaliy Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 12:57 pm
    He forgot to factor in 42.
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    Load Male 13-17
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    April 12, 2009 at 12:58 pm
    I have a feeling this will spark a "hardcore" argument.
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    BloodLimit Male 13-17
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    April 12, 2009 at 12:59 pm
    `Hardcore` Science?
    What your science teachers kept hidden in the back room of your lessons!
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    darthzew Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 12:59 pm
    Can`t wait to see the debates on this page...
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    Mogulman Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 1:00 pm
    From what I could gather, it seemed like he was trying to explain dark matter/dark energy using God. Interesting concept, but not all that convincing to me.
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    Immigrant Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 1:00 pm
    Why is the universe expanding? Some say dark matter, some say dark materr and dark energy, and this one crazy guy says god does it.

    So who does the media interview?

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    deathxtra Male 13-17
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    April 12, 2009 at 1:01 pm
    But what IS God?
    You need to know that first...
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    deathxtra Male 13-17
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    April 12, 2009 at 1:01 pm
    OH NOEZ HERE COME THE FLAME WARS!
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    WeeToddDid Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 1:02 pm
    And shockingly, he has a new book out!
    ...the professor that is, not God. Though an updated version of the later`s seminal text could be useful these days.

    Either way, the professor sounds like he`s lost it.

    - Rates 3*, and prepares for science-religion flamewar... -

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    Load Male 13-17
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    April 12, 2009 at 1:04 pm
    I love how this is under the category of "funny".
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    idontknow951 Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 1:05 pm
    IN BEFORE THE FLAEM WARZ
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    sjaakwortel Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 1:06 pm
    this is a classic way to "prove" the excistence off god. its pointing out the blanks spots in theory`s and calling it god. Look at the evolution theory, which has the the problem were did start. Some Christian say that that MUST be god=prove god exicst.
    the same is happening here, we dont know wat is causing the expantion of the univers, thus call it GOD. it just a bit off the puzzle we ""humans" haven solved yet.
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    CapnRusty Male 13-17
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    April 12, 2009 at 1:06 pm
    OMFG A TORNADO!
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    Nidonemo Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 1:06 pm
    Keep your cool, and think BEFORE typing. Thank you.
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    hyeonkim0805 Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 1:07 pm
    What ever he`s smoking I want some.
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    Pilanus Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 1:08 pm
    Lets wait and see what the rest of the scientific community has to say about this.

    until then, the guy is just some crackpot, that can fool gullible reporters looking for a story.

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    sjaakwortel Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 1:09 pm
    i dont like people who point out unknow this and call them god
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    April 12, 2009 at 1:11 pm
    Okay, don`t worry! Using hardcore mathematics and quantum mechanics, I just unproved the good professor`s proving. So, don`t worry, God no longer exists. Whew, that was a close one.
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    Xithor Male 13-17
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    April 12, 2009 at 1:11 pm
    Immigrant, the universe is expanding because of energy forcing an outward acceleration from the big bang, not dark matter and all that hooha. And just to dispel the whole "The big bang happened, not God" thing that people may get from my last sentence, matter nor energy cannot be created no destroyed. Therefore all of the universe was at one time a single infinite point in nothingness. If matter and energy cannot be created nor destroyed, where did this infinite point come from? Listen to the professor.
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    eggsnham Male 13-17
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    April 12, 2009 at 1:13 pm
    so if a creationist tries to prove something he believes in it ridiculous, a scientist and tries and it "amazing", just saying
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    brandonabe Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 1:18 pm
    sjaak- this is how we learn anything. Everything we think we know is only fact until we learn enough that the believed facts need to be slightly adjusted, or radically rethought.

    Even if you are correct, you have no more reason to doubt the mathematical equation (unless there is an apparent error in the equation itself) than you do anything else we have learned through our study of quantum mechanics, mathematics and physics, unless of course your problem with there being a God has more to do with your own prejudices than it does with determining truth.

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    nlcs Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 1:20 pm
    lol i love. Load of equations implies god exists, you know what I`m not convinced by that. Oh and that tornado was clearly God`s outrage at that professor feeling the need to prove he exists, true christians shouldn`t need to prove he exists.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    April 12, 2009 at 1:25 pm
    brandonabe, for the record (and completely beyond the subject at hand), in science, facts are facts. Facts cannot be adjusted because we learn something else. Those things that we adjust with new knowledge are called theories.
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    mystyocean Female 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 1:26 pm
    lol...... Thing about religion: It`s your belief, there is no scientific method to prove that Fred over here in the U.S, or Bobby over in Guatemala, can both prove that their religions are actually "real". Religion, according to dictionary.com states that it is a collection of beliefs concerning the nature of the universe.

    Beliefs. Not facts. They`re real to each individual person that holds them, but they don`t hold any weight by them self.

    *shrugs* I anxiously await to see the stupid, and intelligent posts to this video. Even though, undoubtedly, most of the responses will be stupid. I`m foreseeing something along the lines of...

    "OMGZ-I-CANT-BELIF-YUU-PPL-DUN-BELIEV-IN-GOD-GOD-IZ-REAL-AND-ALLLMIGHTY-AND-IF-U-DONT-BELIF-IN-HIM-UR-GNG-2-HELL...OMG"

    lol Or something. I know there will be at least one.

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    skine Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 1:28 pm
    eggsnham: "so if a creationist tries to prove something he believes in it ridiculous, a scientist and tries and it "amazing", just saying"

    He is both a creationist and a scientist, but that`s not really the point.

    His claim is indeed amazing, that he can prove god using only scientific observations and theories of the natural world.

    My problem with this is that it appears he isn`t submitting his material for peer review as a scientist should do. As the other guy said, I find it interesting, and I would like to know his definition of god.

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    GlooStikk Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 1:32 pm
    what a journalistic achievement...
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    April 12, 2009 at 1:33 pm
    Okay, here, I`m going to prove that 1+1=1. And it`ll be "proof," too! Oh, and by the way, I`ll use hardcore mathematics. Here we go:

    a = 1
    b = 1

    a = b
    a^2 = b^2
    a^2 - b^2 = 0
    (a-b)(a+b) = 0
    (a-b)(a+b)/(a-b) = 0/(a-b)
    1(a+b) = 0
    (a+b) = 0
    1 + 1 = 0
    2 = 0
    1 = 0
    1 + 1 = 1

    Yay! I did it...

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    brandonabe Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 1:33 pm
    Smag- true, but if thats the case, we dont have too many facts to rely on, and many of the things we believe now in science aren`t actually facts. My point stands that an equation such as this should not be assumed false merely because it points to there being a God.
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    Atomic-Envy Female 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 1:33 pm
    quantum physics is basically a free pass for creationists, christian or no.
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    mystyocean Female 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 1:35 pm
    lol...... Thing about religion: It`s your belief, there is no scientific method to prove that Fred over here in the U.S, or Bobby over in Guatemala, can both prove that their religions are actually "real". Religion, according to dictionary.com states that it is a collection of beliefs concerning the nature of the universe.

    Beliefs. Not facts. They`re real to each individual person that holds them, but they don`t hold any weight by them self.

    *shrugs* I anxiously await to see the stupid, and intelligent posts to this video. Even though, undoubtedly, most of the responses will be stupid. I`m foreseeing something along the lines of...

    "OMGZ-I-CANT-BELIF-YUU-PPL-DUN-BELIEV-IN-GOD-GOD-IZ-REAL-AND-ALLLMIGHTY-AND-IF-U-DONT-BELIF-IN-HIM-UR-GNG-2-HELL...OMG"

    lol Or something. I know there will be at least one.

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    mystyocean Female 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 1:37 pm
    "a = 1
    b = 1

    a = b
    a^2 = b^2
    a^2 - b^2 = 0
    (a-b)(a+b) = 0
    (a-b)(a+b)/(a-b) = 0/(a-b)
    1(a+b) = 0
    (a+b) = 0
    1 + 1 = 0
    2 = 0
    1 = 0
    1 + 1 = 1

    Yay! I did it..."

    Nuh uh. Nuh uh, see that`s wrong. Because....1 + 1.... = 11!

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    shnabsey Male 13-17
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    April 12, 2009 at 1:41 pm
    All this guy is doing is answering the unknown questions that other scientists attempt to answer with theorise like string theroy or whatever else (no expert myself)by saying God is the answer to these questions.
    Thats neither new or interesting, the only reason this warrants any media attention is so that we can lol at this old mans obsurd claims, just seems stupid to me.
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 1:43 pm
    Uh yea... I don`t think so.

    He`s a senile old man who knows nothing. His `equations` make no sense at all, in fact he logically proved himself wrong about half way through.

    This `news` story is an embarrassment to the station. Not to mention media in general...

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    sjaakwortel Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 1:45 pm
    brandonabe- it`s more that he just picks a random unkown factor what he calls god, so it is explained. wich all religious people do. make something unexplainable to explain everything thats unknown, we learn by looking at those things and try to find out how it works, not by saying just god did it. thats what our wacky scientist is doing, we dont know wats happening so god is causing it. Instead of looking for the answer.
    He can better use his time to find out wat is really happening instead of saying it is god.
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    bellavia343 Female 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 1:46 pm
    I dont even need to watch it to know he is full of S**T. You CANT PROVE ANYTHING TRUE in science... they are all theories. We just assume some to be absolutes-such as the theory of gravity. We don`t expect to wake up tomorrow with gravity gone so we assume it is true-but technically it is not proven. thats the beauty of science.
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    Ricgus3 Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 1:46 pm
    smagboy1

    if 1+1 is 1 and 2. then how doas that logicaly makes sense? can math now have another path, then maybe he calculated wrong. he on the vid
    maybe he god
    answer one: satan
    answer two: god
    YES! Good exist!! (?)
    something like that? maybe?
    still. a formel and figure we cameup with can never describe god, if god exist I don`t think we may be able to see him or understand how he is,.
    I don`t belive in god. and I don`t belive in a meaning of life,, I think we are just egocentric animals who think we are beter than dogs case we can question why we exist

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    GeN_Ex Male 13-17
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    April 12, 2009 at 1:51 pm
    `smagboy1
    if 1+1 is 1 and 2. then how doas that logicaly makes sense? can math now have another path, then maybe he calculated wrong. he on the vid
    maybe he god
    answer one: satan
    answer two: god
    YES! Good exist!! (?)
    something like that? maybe?
    still. a formel and figure we cameup with can never describe god, if god exist I don`t think we may be able to see him or understand how he is,.
    I don`t belive in god. and I don`t belive in a meaning of life,, I think we are just egocentric animals who think we are beter than dogs case we can question why we exist`

    What the drat are you talking about ><

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    mystyocean Female 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 1:52 pm
    Ricgus3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a15KgyXBX... You`ll LOVE this then.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    April 12, 2009 at 1:57 pm
    Ricgus3, don`t worry, my equation is false. I did it on purpose to prove a point. I made the "assumption" that I could divide by zero. I can`t.

    But, that`s just like our "scientist" at 0:54 when he says that "if we use general relativity and quantum mechanics, then God must exist." Well, fact is, we don`t necessarily have to use general relativity or quantum mechanics. We may find flaws in some of the assumptions in those disciplines at some point. If we do, would the good professor then decide that God doesn`t exist? Or would he again adjust his "assumptions?"

    His assumption is no less asinine than mine when I assumed I could divide by zero. It holds no merit and does not speak to the problem at hand. It is fallacy.

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    _Verbatim_ Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 1:59 pm
    Sorry but this guy is just plain crazy, all he`s done is prove that there are forces in physics that we still cannot fully comprehend, he proved nothing about god or anything remotely close. The general idea here seems to be that he didn`t do anything for a really long time, and then all the sudden comes up with one IDEA and everyone flips out. That Baptist preacher... though normally I don`t agree with baptists is right, you can`t find god with science and math, main reason being? You can`t prove something is there if it isn`t.

    Happy Dead Guy Walking the Earth Day Everyone!

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    Nidonemo Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 2:01 pm
    Mystyocean has provided a different perspective.
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    D3 Male 13-17
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    April 12, 2009 at 2:01 pm
    WTF was Ricgus3 saying?
    Seriously, I did not understand what the hell he`s talking about.
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    kairobert Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 2:09 pm
    Science
    ???

    = God!

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    Jimmi Male 13-17
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    April 12, 2009 at 2:13 pm
    1)science
    2)maths
    3)faith
    4)??????
    5)PROFIT!!!
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    April 12, 2009 at 2:17 pm
    Jimmi, I think you just found the *real* equation behind the professor`s mathematics!
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    hamisgood Male 13-17
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    April 12, 2009 at 2:20 pm
    does everyone who has watched a yahtzee video have to blatantly steal his funnies?
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    hamisgood Male 13-17
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    April 12, 2009 at 2:21 pm
    yes, i use the word funnies
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    tispayne Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 2:31 pm
    holy cr*p a tornado!

    also, wat a fecking dickhead.. yeh well done, hes taken two of the hottest topics in physics which the every day person will have heard of but probably wont understand, but know that theyr "ooh, big & complicated", written a load of bull on a blackboard & came up with, o yeh, god definitly exists..id LOVE to see & rip into his explanation how...

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    FlameOfUdun Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 2:32 pm
    "1)science
    2)maths
    3)faith
    4)??????
    5)PROFIT!!!"

    really? go back to 4chan plz.

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    AnwarNova Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 2:36 pm
    Thank you mass media for bringing me this totally non skewed story with the constant chalk writing on chalk board, gregorian monk chanting, and two random interviews with two random preacher guys combined with the main attraction: a guy who`s physics is frankly too difficult to compress in 2 minutes of non-storying news.>-(
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    SoupaMario Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 2:40 pm
    There is a God, I just don`t think any science could prove that a God does not exist. Now whether this God is the same God that the Bible, Qur`an, or any other belief states is, is another problem. Agnosticism is truly the best way to go about it in my opinion.
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    kinjomusashi Male 30-39
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    April 12, 2009 at 2:46 pm
    bullsh.t random equations + speculation = btw, god exists.
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    KoalaMeatPie Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 2:52 pm
    Basically he made a "theory of everything" and subsituted a number - a constent, like Pi or Omega, for the word "God"

    He might aswell have said "The circumference of a circle is always 3.14.... times it`s diameter, So that /must/ be God!"

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    ballaerina Female 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 2:52 pm
    I want to see his theory replicated and attacked by other scientists. To me, though, it sounds like a load of bullcrap.
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    theelgeth Female 70 & Over
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    April 12, 2009 at 2:53 pm
    im going with mario on this one.
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    hyybrucewayn Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 3:07 pm
    Basically, He said "I`m smarter than you, and I have a very complicated, scientific way to prove god`s presence. however, you wouldn`t understand any of my math, so you have to take my word for it."

    This deconstruction of his argument sounds a lot more like faith than science to me.

    Granted, it was the News Program that presented the argument in this way. Basically, I feel that such a bold claim as "I can prove god`s presence with science" is going to require a lot of explanation. This video does not provide any explanation.
    I understand a decent amount of modern scientific thought. I am by no means an expert, but I would appreciate it if they attempted to explain it. such a lack of actual, communicated proof leads me to believe he is just a crazy southerner who thinks he found god.

    I came here hoping for an actual scientific explanation, instead, I just heard more faith mumbo jumbo.

    by count, its science - 2000; god - 1.

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    TKD_Master Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 3:08 pm
    rather off topic, but ballaerina, you pull off a good laura croft...if that is you.
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    Aldrahill Male 13-17
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    April 12, 2009 at 3:08 pm
    So... he made a medium-sized bunch of jargon that only a select few would understand properly, and explained that the entire universe was completly implausible without there being a god... so that proves there is one?
    Just because he used his experience in writing things down in complicated fashions and using pie a lot doesn`t mean that what he`s saying isn`t the same justification that`s been used for centuries. As it so happens, I too have a great experience in writing things in funny fashions and a familiarity with pie; it`s called dyslexia and delicious dessert.
    The idea that "The universe is too awesome to exist without a God" is a perfect justification for flat-out belief just astounds me. It`s just.. . Just such BS.
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    almightybob1 Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 3:09 pm
    Surprise, he was a committed Christian for 4 years as a kid. And surprise, his science "proves" that the Christian God must exist.
    Even if his proof were correct, he just ignores that his logic could be used to justify any god, and there`s no reason to assume that it proves God exists any more than Thor.

    Even good scientists like this guy have to cheat to try to justify their beliefs through science. Intellectual dishonesty annoys me more than pretty much anything else I can think of.

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    kittyperson Female 13-17
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    April 12, 2009 at 3:14 pm
    look at that tornado! =O
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    shinsvaka Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 3:20 pm
    couldnt god just be like a 11`th dimension being?
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    FlameOfUdun Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 3:22 pm
    He`s left-handed. Never believe a left-handed guy.
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    themadcap Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 3:28 pm
    God the Father (God) + God the Son (Jesus) + God the Holy Ghost = God. 1 + 1 + 1 = 1
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    mystery08 Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 3:31 pm
    he should talk about the quantum mechanics instead of just showing = God
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    jrm5016 Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 3:34 pm
    lol `hardcore science`
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    Okasen Female 13-17
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    April 12, 2009 at 3:40 pm
    "a = 1
    b = 1

    a = b
    a^2 = b^2
    a^2 - b^2 = 0
    (a-b)(a+b) = 0
    (a-b)(a+b)/(a-b) = 0/(a-b)
    1(a+b) = 0
    (a+b) = 0
    1 + 1 = 0
    2 = 0
    1 = 0
    1 + 1 = 1"

    This problem is a lot like the `science proves god` thing... how can we trust science that we don`t understand? The woman even said that it goes over most peoples heads. Yet they still believe it?

    It`s like the 1+1=1 thing... it makes sense if you blindly decide that it`s true, but not if you know that a^2 - b^2 =/= (a-b)(a+b)

    (a-b)(a+b)=a^2+ab-ba-b
    Which is not not a^2 - b^2

    But if you were using that to prove that point, good for you ;D

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    xattributex Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 3:41 pm
    To many negativist. One is suppose to take science in as a whole, not pick and choose what one thinks to be correct or not because of the subject matter. Saying this is dishonest makes less sense than his subject altogether being that no one here can challenge his equation....
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    Nidonemo Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 3:46 pm
    One thing that has bothered me for a while now...

    Bumblebees aren`t even supposed to be able to fly, according to physics...yet they do...so is it probable that we need to rethink physics as a whole entirely and base it all around that bee?

    (Am I on topic? I think I am...)

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    ScottSerious Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 3:48 pm
    this video proves boring exists
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    xattributex Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 3:51 pm
    Nidonemo, I think you are on topic..atleast you point out a flaw in science that atleast has some credable arguement to this guys theory...not that it`s just wrong..well played
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    blacktony Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 3:57 pm
    Nidonemo: That is a myth/urban legend regarding the aerodynamics of bumblebees - it is based on the fact with "fixed wing" aerodynamics; bumblebees are clearly not fixed wing, but a hybrid of "rotary wing" - this arguement is akin to saying that aerodynamically helicopters can`t fly.
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    mjfoxman Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 4:00 pm
    hah hardcore science
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    billbob-05 Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 4:00 pm
    God doesnt exist.
    accept it.
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    kurtcobain05 Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 4:06 pm
    "God doesnt exist.
    accept it."

    Prove it.


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    quaintness Male 13-17
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    April 12, 2009 at 4:11 pm
    This should have been either way longer than 3 minutes or 3 waaaay less.
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    SuperJesus Male 13-17
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    April 12, 2009 at 4:15 pm
    "including the rise of the dead"

    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL no.

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    jar-head Male 13-17
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    April 12, 2009 at 4:17 pm
    Alright, " i would rather worship a God and die and for it to turn out their is none, than live a life of sin and found out that their is, and i shall be in some fiery place of poo, Forever." god gives you a choice, as a catholic i`m not a hardcore christian, i mean, Catholicisms has done some pretty bad things... but in the words of Gandhi "their are as many religions as their are people"
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 4:22 pm
    E=MC2(GOD)
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    pomunium Female 13-17
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    April 12, 2009 at 4:22 pm
    mystyocean...

    why the hell is Bobby in Guatemala?
    shouldn`t it be Boberto or something?

  81. Profile photo of DIETY
    DIETY Male 13-17
    196 posts
    April 12, 2009 at 4:24 pm
    At no point does it say WHY exactly god exists. It just says some hick thinks so, through "physics".
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    billbob-05 Male 18-29
    91 posts
    April 12, 2009 at 4:26 pm
    "" "God doesnt exist.
    accept it."

    Prove it.""


    ahh, see i`ve done these complex maths equations, that you wouldn`t understand and therefore i don`t need to tell you buy you`ll believe me
    =D

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    almightybob1 Male 18-29
    4290 posts
    April 12, 2009 at 4:28 pm
    Jar-head: What you`re doing is called Pascal`s Wager, and it`s ridiculous.

    It assumes there is no cost to believing, when there is.
    It assumes that the god you choose to believe in "just in case" is the correct one.
    It assumes that the god will be fooled by your "just in case" belief.

    If you`d like to see Pascal`s Wager get more thoroughly owned, watch this video.

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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 4:28 pm
    GOD
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    Lock_Face Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 4:34 pm
    He probably forgot to carry the "y"
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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 4:34 pm
    SmagBoy1
    if a=b then a-b=0. So you just divided by zero...btw thought I love that equation.

    sjaakworte:"brandonabe- it`s more that he just picks a random unkown factor what he calls god, so it is explained. wich all religious people do."

    well we first have to learn his definition of god. If is definition of god is some unknown force then there we go.


    "You CANT PROVE ANYTHING TRUE in science... they are all theories."

    You m`am win. Although I think it was a mathematical proof he was trying to do... im not sure

    "bullsh.t random equations + speculation = btw, god exists."

    If you cant understand the equations that doesn`t mean its bullpoo

    "Surprise, he was a committed Christian for 4 years as a kid. And surprise, his science "proves" that the Christian God must exist. "

    Ad hominem *cough*

  87. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 4:36 pm
    Now as far as the actual video, there isnt enough information to tell. It was a news report so he didn`t actually get to show the equation.

    But if the equation is legit then
    a) doesnt mean god exist
    b) doesnt mean you can simply disregard his equation.

    You have to treat it as a theory and see if it is disproven

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    thebandit Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 4:38 pm
    i want to see the equation...
    otherwise all hes proving is that if you bombard people with enough information that they don`t understand, they will believe anything you tell them.
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    kingdomCome Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 4:39 pm
    Meh, I was hoping for some explanation of his theory, rather than an ad for his book. If it does prove god exists, no doubt such an historic breakthrough will become widely known....I wait until that comes out without having to line his pockets to buy the book...
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    baileyabb Female 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 4:42 pm
    @ thebandit `s comment

    My thoughts exactly.

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    bingo5765 Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 4:44 pm
    All those symbols and numbers = hardcore science. I wonder if he has published this work, I`d like to see `dem fancy scrabbles yawl`
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    bingo5765 Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 4:47 pm
    also, centuries... lol
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    mystyocean Female 18-29
    194 posts
    April 12, 2009 at 4:57 pm
    "mystyocean...

    why the hell is Bobby in Guatemala?
    shouldn`t it be Boberto or something?"

    pomunium - in trying to rename Bobby; apparently double middle names are the usual over there. So how about Georgio Boberto-Roberto, in Guatemala?

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    xattributex Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 4:59 pm
    Primtimekin.. logic and rarionality will always be on your side :)
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    JobberGobber Male 13-17
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    April 12, 2009 at 5:03 pm
    Highlight was 3:20 onwards.
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    SPARTAKITTY Female 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 5:18 pm
    Yeah, they prove that God exists using science, but don`t bother to explain a bit. I can imagine how the conversation went at the News Station.

    Reporter 1: Aha! This man says he can prove God exists using science!

    Reporter 2: Does he have credible information?

    Reporter 1: Ah.....no.

    Reporter 2: Roll the story, and show some mathematical equations and stuff. The public is stupid.

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    glovey Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 5:54 pm
    sweet tornado
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    sTuFFt Male 13-17
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    April 12, 2009 at 6:02 pm
    OMGZ-I-CANT-BELIF-YUU-PPL-DUN-BELIEV-IN-GOD-GOD-IZ-REAL-AND-ALLLMIGHTY-AND-IF-U-DONT-BELIF-IN-HIM-UR-GNG-2-HELL...OMG
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    xattributex Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 6:21 pm
    This is a news spot, if he were to explain it in his 3 minute time frame beyond introductions, conclusions and the story it self.

    ...you wouldnt understand it anyways...

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    outfire Male 13-17
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    April 12, 2009 at 6:23 pm
    oh. my. gosh. He`s using hardcore science guys! hardcore science! If this becomes accepted by scientists in the greater scientific community, and they can explain to me why it makes sense, then i`ll believe it. Until then (which will most likely be never) i will assume he`s a hick who used flawed math to try to prove what he believes.
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    jimbobsthebe Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 6:24 pm
    God = Belief
    Science = Evidence

    Belief does not equal evidence.
    Science does not equal god.

  102. Profile photo of Winter_ICE_0
    Winter_ICE_0 Male 13-17
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    April 12, 2009 at 6:39 pm
    You can`t do a math problem and WANT to have the answer end up being 100. It depends on how the math problem is consturcted and if it is correctly executed to get the answer. You can`t form a althagorithm around a desired result, you can only design it around a potential answer.
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    pariahnola Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 6:42 pm
    why the hell does this guy have to be from my town? freaking wacko!!!!
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    Olk Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 6:48 pm
    or you could look at it this way: explain the big bang... il give you thirty seconds...
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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 6:54 pm
    "i will assume he`s a hick who used flawed math to try to prove what he believes."

    He is a physics professor at Tulane...prestigious school, hard as hell subject. Doubt he`s a hick

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    Wagonlover Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 6:58 pm
    he writes his S`s wierdly. I prefer to write them from the top down
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    Nidonemo Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 6:58 pm
    Whatever happened with "Live and Let Live?" with you people?
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    krembill Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 7:00 pm
    Olk, who said the big bang even took place? Oh that`s right, lots of people... They could be wrong you know, and it IS just a theory.
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    Indoraptor2 Male 13-17
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    April 12, 2009 at 7:06 pm
    I never thought I`d ever agree with the baptist preacher. But you cannot prove the supernatural using the natural. This "God" that this scientist supposedly proves is actually called an unknown force. Something that has yet to be explained. To say that just because we cannot explain something, it MUST be God is as ridiculous as saying that cancer is caused by the Devil, because we don`t yet KNOW of a cure.

    Btw I am a Christian.

  110. Profile photo of Olk
    Olk Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 7:08 pm
    krembill, who said God exists? Oh that`s right, lots of people... They could be wrong you know, and it IS just a theory.

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    White_Wolfos Female 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 7:09 pm
    YOU`RE WRONG!
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    Megido Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 7:11 pm
    "and it IS just a theory."
    Well a theory is the highest possible rank for a scientific idea, "theory" does not mean that it`s just some made up, unproven, crap.

    As for proving Gods existence with physics and math i guess he uses some sort of gap logic to do it; we can explain this or that and therefore it must be god. Ofc i can`t be sure thats how it is since this clip does nothing to explain how he proves the existence of a god.

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    sTuFFt Male 13-17
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    April 12, 2009 at 7:26 pm
    "Whatever happened with "Live and Let Live?" with you people?"


    What do you mean... "You people"?

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    kangoala Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 7:29 pm
    Gosh. i really wanna jump into this, but damn it, i wouldn`t know where to stop!
  115. Profile photo of perigee
    perigee Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 7:31 pm
    As a physics student (and an atheist) I`m interested to read this "proof". Will report back later.
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    perigee Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 7:34 pm
    Also, this guy has basically guaranteed himself the Templeton Prize. Well done to him!
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    jadedtortois Female 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 7:47 pm
    I think i`d need to read more indepth, this report proved nothing to me, all I see is scientific jargon and I definitely don`t understand it. You can`t preach to me that "God" has been proven. It is a theory and one that I will need to read more about.
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    perigee Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 7:48 pm
    Ahaaaaaa, I`ve just realized that he co-wrote a book called "The Physics of Immortality" which I bought a few months back out of curiosity (it was also at a mega knocked-down price), and then realized it was mostly bullcrap.
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    ShadowRyder Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 7:53 pm
    ""Whatever happened with "Live and Let Live?" with you people?"

    What do you mean... "You people"?"
    =========================================

    What do YOU mean...`You people`????

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    vegascartman Male 30-39
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    April 12, 2009 at 7:56 pm
    Using Mathematics to prove God exists is not science...it`s mathematics, which is a TYPE of science, but that doesn`t prove a thing. It`s like saying I can make a math equation that will go into the other room and make me a BLT on rye. The two have nothing to do with one another. Saying it`s "proof" means he must follow the Scientific Method including doing an experiement, documenting the evidence and showing predictions of the evidence, and subjecting your work for peer review which, it seems, he has done none of. And the golden rule to Quantum Physics by just about every major physicist out there is that, "If you think you know anything about quantum physics, then you know NOTHING about quantum physics." This guy is a loon and I`m pissed my tax dollars are contributing to this idiot`s salary to teach.
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    sTuFFt Male 13-17
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    April 12, 2009 at 8:02 pm
    """Whatever happened with "Live and Let Live?" with you people?"
    What do you mean... "You people"?"
    =========================================

    What do YOU mean...`You people`????"


    What do YOU mean "You people"?!

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    Megido Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 8:09 pm
    By the way, maybe i`m just being a retard, but wouldn`t it be impossible to prove the existence of something supernatural within the laws of physics as we know them? I mean, the laws of physics doesn`t allow for that kind of poo, so how would one go about making a a formula describing God that the rest of the scientific community wouldn`t laugh themselves silly at?
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    jamesuyt Male 13-17
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    April 12, 2009 at 8:37 pm
    Here`s the way I see it: There is more of a chance that a supreme being (or beings) created the universe than a spectacular explosion created by nothing. Science itself is a theory. A very good theory, but a theory nonetheless. We PRESUME we know how the world works, but we don`t neccesserily. We have theories on everything, and those theories make sense together, so we assume they are correct. Religion is just another theory of how the universe was created. If, science believed that the universe was made by a supreme being rather than the Big Bang, what difference would it make? One single theory would be changed, it would not change anything else.

    Here`s an example. Maybe there is another huge universe that we may not see or know. Imagine that in this supreme universe, there is a video game designer, just like we have here. But he (we`ll say `he` to avoid confusion) is designing our universe. Maybe he tried many things before, none worked except our universe.

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    jamesuyt Male 13-17
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    April 12, 2009 at 8:39 pm
    (continued)
    We could just be a game, a hobby to him. We would never reach him, as a video game character could not enter our universe.

    I think there IS a supreme being(s) that created the universe, but the true questions are:
    Is this supreme being watching over us? Will praying to it change anything? Can he speak to us?

    I don`t know. And I don`t think I ever will.


    P.S. Apologies for the text wall and double post.

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    Smashking Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 8:42 pm
    Saying God exists, no offense to those who follow religion, seems more like a cop-out answer on his part. The way he put it, it was no better than saying "There are things in the universe that cannot be explained through our technology, so we blame it on God. Therefore, God exists."
  126. Profile photo of vegascartman
    vegascartman Male 30-39
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    April 12, 2009 at 8:47 pm
    "Science itself is a theory"

    Uhhhh...no it`s not. Not sure who fed you that line, but they`re wrong. Most people are unaware what a Theory is and obviously you`re one of them. Scientifically, gravity is still a theory, but it`s also been established as scientific fact as well. The difference between science and religion is that science is always willing to admit when it`s wrong when a new hypothesis, theory, testing, proof of results, and scientific peer review establishes results. Religion, on the other hand, is rigid. It does not change its beliefs when obvious evidence shows the contrary. It is not open to new ideas and new ways of thinking regardless of the evidence. The beauty behind science is that they are willing to admit they don`t know something, like the Big Bang. Scientists are pretty positive it happened because of the massive amount of data that proves it, even though they admit they don`t know HOW it happened.

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    perigee Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 9:07 pm
    "We could just be a game"

    The Matrix is a very well entrenched idea now, due to its three movies. It`s not productive to ask if the Architect or the giant computer is God, because its just a question of semantics. I could create a little computer game, it doesn`t make me a god, and I think many, many God-botherers would agree.

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    britt566 Female 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 9:49 pm
    No point in fighting about it... Do NOT waste energy... and yet people still think they can make other people believe in what they do... it`s funny after a while. I DO know this... no matter what... we will find out either way when our time is up. I say to believe in god. cause this means if he IS real.. then you will go to heaven for staying a good christian or what ever and even if he isn`t real.. nothing bad will happen to you......
  129. Profile photo of AnImbroglio
    AnImbroglio Male 30-39
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    April 12, 2009 at 9:52 pm
    vegascartman: That`s the dumbest thing I`ve ever heard. A lot of scholars like to say they`re open to peer review, but their not. You can`t hold scientists up as a beacon of light in the face of the masses, and dog religion. That makes no sense. Scientists are just as likely to defend their beliefs and their inventions/postulates/theorums as any religious nutjob. You`re making a straw man fallacy.
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    manorrd Male 30-39
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    April 12, 2009 at 9:54 pm
    I can`t believe you idiots got sucked into another one of these I-AM-BORED God vs No God posts.

    The mods must really take you guys for suckers

  131. Profile photo of coldCanuck
    coldCanuck Male 13-17
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    April 12, 2009 at 10:00 pm
    "Scientists are just as likely to defend their beliefs" do you mean religous beliefs cause only about 5-15% OF scientists beleive in a relgious entity. and ya science could be considered a theory cause a theory is an idea that is considered true but cannot be proven, gravity is a theory because you cannot see gravity or tastse or use any of you sences to find gravity but its there. Religion on the other hand is not a theory, its a belief and will in time become mythology because people learn the ideas given by the religion are silly and cannot be true.
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    coldCanuck Male 13-17
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    April 12, 2009 at 10:12 pm
    oh and the bigbang was not an explosion, thats kinda a joke, some scientist heard the early theory and named it the big bang, which aint true as the begining of the explosion cause the universe to magnify in size by millions of times but still was too small to fit in a pin head, the big bang is a silly name for it but its basicaly fact, there`s evidence to support. All the matter and antimatter wasnt even there, just quarks and giant amounts of energy. But in the way of universal understanding, jamesuyt is right, we know almost nothing, but we have a basic idea of laws that govern the universe, we dont know why a subatomic partical can be in two places at once, not be there, change when it is, move direction, but they can. We have theories that help explain these occerences but its almost impossible a god could be doing this.
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    WalkerBoh170 Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 10:14 pm
    Cool tornado
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    Animecha Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 10:41 pm
    This is stupid, the guy basically makes a leap in logic when he admits that his definition of God is so broad that if a stinking pile of poo existed outside the universe, that would be God according to him.

    I mean, what kind of a joke is it when the equation equals the word "God exists". The mere fact that God is still yet to be defined physically as opposed to metaphysically means that it cannot be quantified until then. And if it cannot be quantified then it cannot be "proven". I mean, the whole point of quantum physics is that its QUANTIFYING the physical systems underlying major physical systems.

    I am not impressed or amused.

  135. Profile photo of vegascartman
    vegascartman Male 30-39
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    April 12, 2009 at 10:51 pm
    "A lot of scholars like to say they`re open to peer review, but their not."

    OK, here is where you`re wrong. SCIENCE and SCIENTISTS are two different things. Science follows a set of rules. While most scientists take a vow to uphold those rules, they are all human. Some so-called scientists do not subject their work via the Scientific Method and, as such, should not be called scientists because they are not following science. It`s that simple. It`s just the same way how Priests rape children yet do so in the name of good morals in the name of "God". The truth is, it`s not the fault of the positive message of the church, it`s the fault of the priest. In the same way, science isn`t faulty because of a bad scientist, or psudo-scientist.

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    d_katman Male 13-17
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    April 12, 2009 at 11:23 pm
    to be honest... all i saw was a bunch of things in parentheses saying things like god exists and quantum mechanics. i don`t mean this guy is a dumbass. but what he`s doing, definitely isn`t math
  137. Profile photo of Luet_Seer
    Luet_Seer Female 18-29
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    April 12, 2009 at 11:29 pm
    http://www.doesgodexist.org/JanFeb96/Phy...
    This should help out anyone who is curious. Seriously the guy is not entirely wrong. He makes some pretty serious jumps, but the news people have absolutely no clue. His theory does have its merits and it doesn`t prove the existence of a god in the sense of judeo-christianity. There are a lot of inconsistencies really. And it can`t be just anything(like poo), this thing that he calls God should have some sort of intelligence as it would comprise at the very least information from all humans who have ever lived. If something could hold that much information and not be said to be intelligent, that`s a bit of a stretch. Really, blindly speculating on something just because it seems a little preposterous is very silly. A true scientist takes a look at it and says "hmmm, well even if it`s crazy, if he has some proof and it after isn`
  138. Profile photo of Raberboom
    Raberboom Male 18-29
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    April 13, 2009 at 12:30 am
    complete bulls*hit..... news had nothing better to do then interview crazy self proclaimed scientist....


    Atheists rule!

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    BigWaFuu Male 18-29
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    April 13, 2009 at 12:39 am
    they didnt explain poo in the video clip. They just say "my formula proves it" over and over again but they dont drating show or explain the formula. Waste of time.
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    Joolin Male 18-29
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    April 13, 2009 at 12:53 am
    This proves one thing - you can make anything sound legitimate if you use enough symbols.

    Also, if he can "mathematically" prove the rising of the dead, shouldn`t he be a bit more well known than he is? Shouldn`t he be out accidentally triggering the zombie apocalypse or something?

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    hyperspectre Male 18-29
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    April 13, 2009 at 12:53 am
    ha ha ha
    jsut the sort of justification that jesus science hacks need.

    PUBLISH YOUR PROOF... if it is true, then give me the chance of salvation through seeing you are correct....

    Or give me the chance to show you that you are full of Sh*t...

    if it is true what do you have to hide?

  142. Profile photo of hyperspectre
    hyperspectre Male 18-29
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    April 13, 2009 at 12:56 am
    the thing about science, is that is will take this proprosal, and question it, and test it.

    if it is true, then the textbooks will change... they have to... by the very definition of science.

    Where as religion does not change... canonical law is divine and is not subject to variation.

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    Joolin Male 18-29
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    April 13, 2009 at 12:56 am
    Also, the video alludes to the fact that he has a slightly different idea of "god" than the traditional judeo-christian "god", which basically means that he found a force that he hadn`t heard of before and assumed it was "god".

    Either that or he`s just a pastor who knows how to manipulate gullible people with fancy symbols on a chalk board.

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    hyperspectre Male 18-29
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    April 13, 2009 at 12:58 am
    oh... and I jsut read this guys proof... and have come up with the evidence that it is false...

    um... yeah I have the proofs right in front of me.. therefore it must be true.

    .. maybe there is too much "maths stuff" for you to understand... and you should just accept what I say.

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    dragonshadoz Female 18-29
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    April 13, 2009 at 1:03 am
    Why not explain your fancy symbols and equations, sir?
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    lilhawk2892 Male 13-17
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    April 13, 2009 at 1:25 am
    so this completely unknown person has literally solved the meaning of life? like hawkings has been doing for his... life? and wouldnt even show his "fancy symbols and concepts". id learn advanced physics in a second to see this miracle equation solving the meaning of life.
  147. Profile photo of deltaumarcus
    deltaumarcus Male 18-29
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    April 13, 2009 at 1:28 am
    Religion vs Science. There are no winners. Only losers. Seriously, you`re better off dividing by zero.
  148. Profile photo of Biscuits
    Biscuits Male 13-17
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    April 13, 2009 at 1:38 am
    And that`s why crazy people make great news.
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    Boredx12 Female 13-17
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    April 13, 2009 at 1:55 am
    If god existed s/he wouldnt keep all the poor religious people waiting and guessing, they`d just be like, "Hey guys, this is God speaking. Just to let you know, Im still here!"
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    sims3k Male 18-29
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    April 13, 2009 at 2:09 am
    the kor`an can truly show how science and religion are connected.
  151. Profile photo of Megido
    Megido Male 18-29
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    April 13, 2009 at 2:11 am
    I sort of get the feeling that if this were true i would have found out about it through another source than IAB. I guess that`s the only argument i need ;)
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    lilhawk2892 Male 13-17
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    April 13, 2009 at 2:29 am
    "The meaning of life wasn`t mentioned at all in that video."


    seriously... i mean really now. seriously?

    god = true = theres a meaning to life
    god = false= were a slice of DNA that got a bit too advanced

  153. Profile photo of Megido
    Megido Male 18-29
    439 posts
    April 13, 2009 at 2:35 am
    So if there is no god your life will instantly turn completely worthless? As long as you believe that there is a god your life has purpose but if the truth happen to be that there is no god it`ll all have been for naught? And religious people accuse atheists of being crass :P
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    ThatWasFunny Male 18-29
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    April 13, 2009 at 2:41 am
    And another pointless internet debate about religion that will never end is given birth to...
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    lukas1051 Male 18-29
    3428 posts
    April 13, 2009 at 2:59 am
    I`d like to see that formula. I do have a degree in physics, so I probably would "get it". It didn`t actually explain how he came to the conclusion, he just claims his formula works. Telling us we "won`t get it" isn`t good enough. It`s like me saying I ran 100m in 5 seconds, but I won`t show anyone the video.
  156. Profile photo of kribbe
    kribbe Male 18-29
    2006 posts
    April 13, 2009 at 3:30 am
    i wont believe anything until i c the evidence,
    until then, hes a fraud
  157. Profile photo of BunnyNaku
    BunnyNaku Female 18-29
    5224 posts
    April 13, 2009 at 4:11 am
    not even gonna try with this one..
  158. Profile photo of almightybob1
    almightybob1 Male 18-29
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    April 13, 2009 at 4:33 am
    "Ad hominem *cough*"

    My point, prime, was that his "conclusion" was that the Christian God exists, when in fact his logic could be equally used by Sikhs to `prove` that Vishnu exists, or by Vikings to `prove` that Thor is the real god.

    He has picked the Christian God as his conclusion because that`s the one he believed in as a kid. He has ignored any other possible outcome. Therefore, his logic is flawed. It`s just bad science.

    So no, it wasn`t ad hominem.

  159. Profile photo of trp712
    trp712 Male 18-29
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    April 13, 2009 at 4:45 am
    I am writing this comment to say that I am not going to write a comment in order to keep myself out of flame wars.
  160. Profile photo of Sistarose
    Sistarose Female 30-39
    373 posts
    April 13, 2009 at 5:23 am
    I liked how it concluded with a tornado. More proof that God exists and is a meany?
  161. Profile photo of ChrisRlive
    ChrisRlive Male 18-29
    260 posts
    April 13, 2009 at 6:18 am
    "Hardcore Science"
  162. Profile photo of Faith13HF
    Faith13HF Male 13-17
    75 posts
    April 13, 2009 at 6:21 am
    Wait, so why is religion brought onto IAB, again?
    Does it ever end well?
  163. Profile photo of bobthemime
    bobthemime Male 18-29
    94 posts
    April 13, 2009 at 6:25 am
    im a big fan of science and have no faith in god...

    but he cant prove that god exists because he`s using experimental science, and by experimental i mean theres no proof that it all work, only that we have made it work.

    this is bullpoo anyway, he`s a parish ministers thingie, so he is always going to find god, coz he`s looking for it.

    if it is proven by every other known force in existence, i`ll accept god exists. but as of yet im not gonna take the word of a science teacher in the bible belt of the us of ass...sorry a

  164. Profile photo of lilhawk2892
    lilhawk2892 Male 13-17
    221 posts
    April 13, 2009 at 6:41 am
    @megido

    ill assume that was aimed at me,
    life is what we make of it. and what weve been making of it for a long time before any gods came about. what is fame and fortune to any other species? nothing!. it is individual to our class of living.

    @thatwasfunny.

    why is it pointless? if even 1 halfwitted individual could explain something to me in a way to make me question my self. would leave me walking away with something

    @almightybob

    what makes the basics of 1 god different from the next? simply the religious culture and ceremonies, i dont think its the christian god hes trying to prove. but rather that theres a force behind all of it.

    @faith13

    as a matter of fact. these are the debates i long for. as while i may have to sort through piles of steam covered poo. i know ill find something!

  165. Profile photo of NobiNob
    NobiNob Male 18-29
    13 posts
    April 13, 2009 at 6:57 am
    This Dude is a quack
  166. Profile photo of Martomator
    Martomator Male 13-17
    83 posts
    April 13, 2009 at 7:20 am
    haha all these intellectuals being free thinkers and arguing religion.

    This is the internet
    one website, for links when you are bored.

    iab posts a link about science and religion and you come running like sheeep.

    ITS THE INTERNET

  167. Profile photo of LazyMe484
    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    April 13, 2009 at 7:32 am

  168. Profile photo of deceit
    deceit Male 18-29
    79 posts
    April 13, 2009 at 7:38 am
    boy, i wish this was Onion.
  169. Profile photo of lilhawk2892
    lilhawk2892 Male 13-17
    221 posts
    April 13, 2009 at 7:42 am
    @mortamor. soo what your saying is. all these people im talking too. dont exist? and that i should simply take in this information without every needing to use it. philosophical to say the least
  170. Profile photo of snottydyck
    snottydyck Male 40-49
    695 posts
    April 13, 2009 at 8:04 am
    arguing over religion is like saying my invisible friend is better than yours.
  171. Profile photo of LastDesprado
    LastDesprado Male 13-17
    114 posts
    April 13, 2009 at 8:10 am
    i have a better way to tell if theres a god. just go ahead and kill yourself, trust me this works
  172. Profile photo of almightybob1
    almightybob1 Male 18-29
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    April 13, 2009 at 8:17 am
    lilhawk - considering the first quote we hear from the guy is "I think that Christianity and science have always been intertwined", I think it`s safe to say he`s concluding that the god of the bible exists.
  173. Profile photo of TGPZarquon
    TGPZarquon Male 30-39
    166 posts
    April 13, 2009 at 9:11 am
    This reminds me of the film "What the Bleep do We Know" where the interviewees just kept saying "quantum physics, quantum physics!" over and over again to try to use people`s lack of knowledge of it to get them to believe their new-age theories.
  174. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    April 13, 2009 at 9:12 am
    They spoke to two religious sources, and not ONE scientific source. What balanced news media you have over there in the US. *rolls eyes*
  175. Profile photo of Turnshroud
    Turnshroud Female 18-29
    4230 posts
    April 13, 2009 at 9:19 am
    Am I the only one reminded of Leonardo Vetra in Angels and Demons? Just finished reading it

    Minus the antimatter

    Either way, equations don`t prove god exists

  176. Profile photo of The-Sentinel
    The-Sentinel Male 18-29
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    April 13, 2009 at 9:25 am
    The only problem with his idea, is that what he calls "God" isn`t what most Christians would but instead he uses God as a name for the unknown in physics.
  177. Profile photo of comp_wizard
    comp_wizard Male 18-29
    194 posts
    April 13, 2009 at 9:42 am
    Ok, so this prof essentially claimed that from general relativity and quantum mechanics, it can be proven that God exists. This is true, but not very interesting. It is well-known that under certain interpretations, these theories are inconsistent (the EPR Paradox). And it is a rule of logic that from any contradiction, an arbitrary conclusion may be proved. Therefore, relativity and quantum mechanics DO prove that God exists. But they also prove that God doesn`t exist. And they prove that the professor in question is a moron.
  178. Profile photo of thetoastking
    thetoastking Male 18-29
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    April 13, 2009 at 10:12 am
    god exists blah blah universe god exists blah blah christian since i was 12 god exists blah blah god blah blah exists
  179. Profile photo of xattributex
    xattributex Male 18-29
    144 posts
    April 13, 2009 at 10:15 am
    I guess towards the multiple comments that says things along the lines of "he only finding God because he is looking for it"...he clearly says in the news spot that he was fallen and came back AFTER THE EQUATION..

    Even if though, would any of you be saying the same thing had this been a video that proved God DIDN`T exist..watch your hypocrisy...take science in as a whole..don`t pick and choose..it contradicts what science is about..

    People keep asking for any sort of explantion or any sort of peer review ( in a 3 min news spot..be real..think..) but everyone jumped over Luet_Seers post like it didnt exist..it`s interesting..take a read

  180. Profile photo of HQampersand
    HQampersand Male 18-29
    172 posts
    April 13, 2009 at 10:30 am
    This video swings more to the left than Anne Coulter`s strap-on. :)
  181. Profile photo of Maromi
    Maromi Female 18-29
    1095 posts
    April 13, 2009 at 10:57 am
    That was so boring :( I wanted to get through the entire thing but I couldn`t. Anyone? What was he going on about?
  182. Profile photo of StapleMeElmo
    StapleMeElmo Male 18-29
    1029 posts
    April 13, 2009 at 11:44 am
    "Ok, so this prof essentially claimed that from general relativity and quantum mechanics, it can be proven that God exists. This is true, but not very interesting. It is well-known that under certain interpretations, these theories are inconsistent (the EPR Paradox). And it is a rule of logic that from any contradiction, an arbitrary conclusion may be proved. Therefore, relativity and quantum mechanics DO prove that God exists. But they also prove that God doesn`t exist. And they prove that the professor in question is a moron. "

    Exactly!

  183. Profile photo of RedBrother
    RedBrother Male 18-29
    134 posts
    April 13, 2009 at 1:36 pm
    lol. there is no such thing as a god or gods. get over it
  184. Profile photo of TopperHey
    TopperHey Male 18-29
    1930 posts
    April 13, 2009 at 1:42 pm
    3 minutes 39 seconds and absolutely no explaination. What an abismally crap news channel.
  185. Profile photo of sTuFFt
    sTuFFt Male 13-17
    72 posts
    April 13, 2009 at 1:56 pm
    "So if there is no god your life will instantly turn completely worthless? As long as you believe that there is a god your life has purpose but if the truth happen to be that there is no god it`ll all have been for naught? And religious people accuse atheists of being crass :P"

    Well, technically, if there is no supreme being and we have been in fact put on earth by series of evolutionary events and whatnot, then there was no working mind making a plan for us humans, meaning we are only here because of science... Science doesn`t think, so there is no purpose to life.

  186. Profile photo of Megido
    Megido Male 18-29
    439 posts
    April 13, 2009 at 2:23 pm
    Well 5 seconds of research reveals this "proof" of gods existence to be his Omega Point theory, called pseudo-science by peers and seems a bit sketchy allround.
  187. Profile photo of addipaddi
    addipaddi Male 18-29
    32 posts
    April 13, 2009 at 2:25 pm
    sTuFFt... the original purpose was and is mating, sex! All animals and living things mate to get the best genes and the lesser genes will eventually fall out. That`s evolution.. that`s life! man has just gotten to smart and is looking for a deeper meaning, which is not present
  188. Profile photo of Megido
    Megido Male 18-29
    439 posts
    April 13, 2009 at 2:27 pm
    "Well, technically, if there is no supreme being and we have been in fact put on earth by series of evolutionary events and whatnot, then there was no working mind making a plan for us humans, meaning we are only here because of science... Science doesn`t think, so there is no purpose to life."

    Well if you feel you ahve a purpose in life believing in a God that has not a single shred of evidence for existing, what would change if said god was proven to not exist? You life would still be exactly the same, your beliefs aside. And besides, even if he does exist, what meaning does that give to your life? Servitude?

  189. Profile photo of JoeYC
    JoeYC Male 18-29
    721 posts
    April 13, 2009 at 2:36 pm
    i wish people would stop saying "god exists" and just say "i belive god exists". no one is going to change anyones mind by insisting.

    just a way for insecure people to not think too hard and hurt themselfs over this matter.

  190. Profile photo of Codmily
    Codmily Female 18-29
    360 posts
    April 13, 2009 at 3:12 pm
    Even the Bible says that this world is all meaningless, and it is. Christians live by the word of God to obtain purpose in life after this one.
    People say this type of thing has implications for faith, but the Bible also states "Fool is the man that denies the existence of God". Therefore, faith isn`t based on whether or not God exists.
    The truth is, God can fit anywhere, in any theory. He is the director of science, and time, if you do believe he exists. So, he also can never be disproved.
  191. Profile photo of Syrup
    Syrup Female 13-17
    189 posts
    April 13, 2009 at 3:26 pm
    Hard-nosed "pheezicks".

    Sigh... my small minded-ness finds it difficult (and boring) to read the high-vocabulary-ish comments. Thus, I shant.

  192. Profile photo of Skibi
    Skibi Female 18-29
    103 posts
    April 13, 2009 at 3:32 pm
    AH, HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAAA!!!

    In every single atheism vs theism argument I`ve seen, atheists are always saying, "Show me scientific proof!"

    Now that this guy thinks he`s found that proof, some CHRISTIANS are saying, "Nuh-uh! That doesn`t count!"

    Oh, my God, sometimes I love people...

  193. Profile photo of boredtthemax
    boredtthemax Male 18-29
    81 posts
    April 13, 2009 at 3:47 pm
    "So basically the guy draws a bunch of graphs and numbers on the board and then writes "THEREFORE GOD EXISTS". From what I could see, everything on the board was just basic geometry and physics, nothing involving theology. But the newscaster apparently thinks math is too complicated for people who watch TV news, so maybe he`s on to something. I kind of doubt it though."
  194. Profile photo of skipidydooda
    skipidydooda Male 13-17
    178 posts
    April 13, 2009 at 3:58 pm
    i think i will wait till that chinese guy from naked science agrees
  195. Profile photo of angelam5708
    angelam5708 Female 13-17
    1 post
    April 13, 2009 at 4:41 pm
    stooped
  196. Profile photo of Siyanor
    Siyanor Male 18-29
    1185 posts
    April 13, 2009 at 4:43 pm
    ...According to what this guy actually SAID, he didn`t PROVE the existence of God. He said it`s POSSIBLE for God to exist, and claimed that possibility=certainty. So, basically: HE IS A COMPLETE IDIOT, whether his theories work or not (and I doubt they do).

    Idiot or idiot savant, your choice. Certainly not any sort of intelligent.

  197. Profile photo of raydar
    raydar Male 13-17
    177 posts
    April 13, 2009 at 5:27 pm
    well if you can`t prove that God exists, but then you do but in a stupid way.... what does it mean?
  198. Profile photo of doug1963aaa
    doug1963aaa Male 40-49
    347 posts
    April 13, 2009 at 5:31 pm
    Tippler`s 1994 book, "The Physics of Immortality", requires God to be created by seeding the entire universe with artificial intelligence (each with a complete map of a different persons mind), causing the universe to collapse in an artificial manner (which essentially creates perpetual energy), and all the AI`s merge into one, becoming what he calls "God". His "God" then has the omnipotence to cause "Himself" to have existed for all of eternity.

    He is regarded as a quack by his peers.

    IMHO belief in God is a matter of faith and (rightly) defies scientific proof--God asks for faith, not proof.

  199. Profile photo of doug1963aaa
    doug1963aaa Male 40-49
    347 posts
    April 13, 2009 at 5:42 pm
    Sorry, I misspelled "Tipler" (and the book is on the bookcase right next to me).

    I really should throw it away as everybody (who believes) knows God created Man, and not vice versa as Tipler believes.

  200. Profile photo of vegascartman
    vegascartman Male 30-39
    735 posts
    April 13, 2009 at 5:58 pm
    " Monday, April 13, 2009 3:32:39 PM
    AH, HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAAA!!!

    In every single atheism vs theism argument I`ve seen, atheists are always saying, "Show me scientific proof!" Now that this guy thinks he`s found that proof, some CHRISTIANS are saying, "Nuh-uh! That doesn`t count!""

    NOT TRUE! Many people have been in here asking to SEE THE PROOF. One of the cornerstones of science is that a theory must be subject to peer review, so let him publish his work and let his peers review his math and his equations and go from there.

  201. Profile photo of sTuFFt
    sTuFFt Male 13-17
    72 posts
    April 13, 2009 at 6:45 pm
    "sTuFFt... the original purpose was and is mating, sex! All animals and living things mate to get the best genes and the lesser genes will eventually fall out. That`s evolution.. that`s life! man has just gotten to smart and is looking for a deeper meaning, which is not present"

    Well then, who said that was our purpose.

    "Well if you feel you ahve a purpose in life believing in a God that has not a single shred of evidence for existing, what would change if said god was proven to not exist? You life would still be exactly the same, your beliefs aside. And besides, even if he does exist, what meaning does that give to your life? Servitude?"

    Well hell, if I knew what the Meaning of Life was, I`d be a damn gajillionaire. I don`t know what He has in store for me.

  202. Profile photo of Dragonlord
    Dragonlord Male 18-29
    734 posts
    April 13, 2009 at 8:08 pm
    1) He published a book, but it doesn`t seem to have undergone any peer review.

    2) Even in the off chance that he proved A god exists doesn`t mean that he proved that THE CHRISTIAN god exists. This seems like a rather huge leap.

  203. Profile photo of sinisterspid
    sinisterspid Female 18-29
    121 posts
    April 14, 2009 at 7:27 pm
    why couldnt the new question we discuss for centuries just be "who cares?"
  204. Profile photo of samidoll
    samidoll Female 18-29
    616 posts
    April 15, 2009 at 10:24 am
    why is there only one certain religion. is it a competition? just watch every one of them be wrong, and something much bigger than the books we have be the `right answer`.

    at least, that would be something cool....

  205. Profile photo of samidoll
    samidoll Female 18-29
    616 posts
    April 15, 2009 at 10:28 am
    and i see some christianity comments like, the religion gives them, in this life, a search for purpose in the life after this one

    really, the way you strive to live isnt any different than a good person without religion choosing to just treat others the way they wish to be treated. you just believe you`ll get rewarded for it, or something.

  206. Profile photo of ThatWasFunny
    ThatWasFunny Male 18-29
    702 posts
    April 16, 2009 at 2:13 am
    "i wish people would stop saying "god exists" and just say "i belive god exists". no one is going to change anyones mind by insisting. "

    And I wish people would stop saying "god doesn`t exist" and just say "I do not believe god exists," But that`s not going to happen, is it now?

  207. Profile photo of sims3k
    sims3k Male 18-29
    97 posts
    April 20, 2009 at 2:01 am
    the kor`an can truly show how science and religion are connected.
  208. Profile photo of tazman321
    tazman321 Male 13-17
    190 posts
    April 22, 2009 at 6:08 pm
    @ RedBrother:
    thats an opinion, not a fact. ill just leave it at that, for risk of argument.
  209. Profile photo of GRadde
    GRadde Male 18-29
    2556 posts
    April 23, 2009 at 11:54 am
    >ThatWasFunny

    You do have a point.

    Is it superfluous to add that I do believe that God exists?

  210. Profile photo of sims3k
    sims3k Male 18-29
    97 posts
    May 4, 2009 at 4:06 am
    the kor`an can truly show how science and religion are connected.
  211. Profile photo of tp1212
    tp1212 Male 13-17
    299 posts
    May 4, 2009 at 9:43 am
    its really simple, as long as science doesnt explain everything. they cant say with 100% certainty god doesnt exist.

    Personally, i dunno wheter there is a god or not, but if there is... he wont be using a simple binary reward/punishment system.
    (good/bad heaven/hell that sort of thing.)

  212. Profile photo of tp1212
    tp1212 Male 13-17
    299 posts
    May 4, 2009 at 9:46 am
    also, @thatwasfunny
    they arent pointless... they keep me entertained.
  213. Profile photo of aram200
    aram200 Male 13-17
    257 posts
    May 30, 2009 at 3:04 am
    Lolz thats just.... just... stupid lol
  214. Profile photo of sims3k
    sims3k Male 18-29
    97 posts
    May 30, 2009 at 4:54 pm
    the kor`an can truly show how science and religion are connected.

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