Anti-Obama Man Kills 3 Pittsburgh Cops

Submitted by: fancylad 7 years ago

This took place this morning (4/4/09). The killer was a well-known & vocal opponent of Obama"s new gun legislation bill.
Credits: Fancylad
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Female 8
Hmmm I liek in America and I know that the UK`s murder rate is actually HIGHER, my friend. I don`t even live there!

If our government decides to take away guns, who is actually going to turn them in? The ones who DON`T have a criminal record. Therefore, criminals, of course, will KEEP their guns. So, don`t blame murder on the gun.

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Male 14,330
"You think untrained citizens with small arms are going to do anything against those? Are you kidding me?"

Its happened. You should really take a look at what happened in Afganistain.

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Male 2,850
...ry.
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Male 2,850
@McGovern1981

No, look at what I said:

"We don`t carry guns in the UK, and our murder rate is considerably lower than in the US. So whether or not you believe guns are good or bad, it doesn`t matter; our murder rate is lower than America`s, so if I`m already less likely to get murdered than an American is, why would I need a gun to protect myself?"

I said that our murder rate is already low, so why would I want or need a gun?

As for defending myself against my government; they have jets, tanks, nuclear missiles, highly-trained soldiers, etc. You think untrained citizens with small arms are going to do anything against those? Are you kidding me?

If things get to the point where I come to armed confrontation with my government, then I`ve already lost. You protect yourself far better by making smart choices at the ballot box and trying to make sure that other people also make smart choices. A gun hasn`t protected you against the government`s armies since the 19th centu

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Male 14,330
@GinnyRenee

That sounds very made up black powder probably wouldn`t last that long in open air from moisture and time not to mention to ignite it that ember would have to go right down the hole where the matchlock or flint would go and everyone who ever handled the gun would have to neglect to see if it was loaded.

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Male 14,330
@Musuko42

So by your thought process guns are the only factor in murder rates not employment, education and ect. So then why don`t you disarm your armies too because it seems pretty hypocritical that the government can arm itself for protection but it`s citizens can`t. Weapons can be made from almost anything.

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Male 2,850
@CrakrJak

If by socialism you mean universal healthcare, then every other developed nation except the USA and South Africa are socialist, because you two are the only ones who don`t have it.

Or do you define socialism by government intervention? Let`s see, the American government is bailing out its banks AND some mortgage companies (IAG) AND car companies (the big three).

Whereas our government is bailing out banks...but is letting other companies, like Woolworths, crumble into bankruptcy; letting capitalism work.

Whether or not that`s a good thing, and whether it was intentional on the part of our government, I don`t know; but the fact remains that your government is engaged in far more "socialist" bailing out than ours is.

But hey, I have a low murder rate, healthcare that`s full-coverage and good value (7% of my income pays for the universal healthcare AND my state pension AND unemployment welfare...can you beat that?), and a government that`s not oppressed me ye

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Male 1,360
I`M SO GLAD I LIVE IN A GUN FREE SOCIETY THOSE THING DON`T HAPPEN HERE.
SHOOT SOME NRA PEOPLE THEY `LL UNDERSTAND IT.
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Female 1,264
"People have been killing people since the beginning, Long before firearms were invented. "

Yes, but I`ve never been mugged by someone holding a claymore.
You`re right though, Guns don`t kill people. They just make it easier.

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Female 129
I read a book once with an ironic twist on the whole "Guns don`t kill people, people kill people" thing. This man had a well made gun during the United States` Revolutionary War and packed the powder and so on really well, and the book detailed what happened to the gun for like 200 years until it was hung above a fireplace. A stray ember set off the powder and shot a bullet through the room, out the window, and into a kid`s brain, and he died. So sometimes, in the world of fiction, guns do kill people. It`s The Rifle by Gary Paulsen.
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Male 593
Going with the comment flow: Gun control law is kind of like DRM and copy protection. Those who intend to break it, will do it anyway.
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Male 17,512
moefreak: Fact is if someone is intent on killing people, Gun laws will not stop them.

People have been killing people since the beginning, Long before firearms were invented.

Guns do not kill, People kill. Even a loaded and gun still needs a finger to pull the trigger.

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Male 299
"either shot OR injured" .... i always thought the two went hand in hand.
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Female 1,963
1) Feel awful for the families of everyone killed.
2) Feel barely controlled rage at the fact that each time an article involving a gun turns up on IAB, the conversation goes as follows;
"goes to show that Americans are idiots and love guns"
"Hey Europeans are violent too, check out these random statistics"¨
Can anyone, really, in their heart of hearts, deny the fact that it would be a hell of a lot more difficult to shoot someone without a gun?
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Male 17,512
Musuko42: "We don`t carry guns in the UK, and our murder rate is considerably lower than in the US..."

And your country has embraced socialism to near it`s breaking point. With an disarmed populace it`s relatively easy to impose the governments will on it`s people. That`s why the UK is known as the Nanny state.

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Male 17,512
madest: "is crakrjak insane? yes"

Considering your nickname, That assertion is dubious at best.

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Male 88
TKD - I`m still against Guns. How should I kill myself? Shoot myself? Purely for the irony? I`d appriciate creative input.
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Male 2,850
We don`t carry guns in the UK, and our murder rate is considerably lower than in the US. So whether or not you believe guns are good or bad, it doesn`t matter; our murder rate is lower than America`s, so if I`m already less likely to get murdered than an American is, why would I need a gun to protect myself?
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Male 7,378
is crakrjak insane?

yes

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Male 17,512
Is IAB parroting Daily KOS?

Despicable!

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Male 4,793
this Link right here explains everything you need to know about gun control and why it is the most retarded idea anybody has ever thought of. oh and Ted Nugent wrote the contents of that link. if your against guns, read this. if your still against guns after this, go commit suicide.
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Male 438
HA! TRAVEL WITH KIDS!
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Male 9,306
goaliejerry, did you just admit to online harassment?
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Male 177
why Pitt? :|
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Male 17,512
The Asian immigrant that shot 13 people doesn`t get posted. But the "anti-Obama" "gun-toting nut" does ?

Nice try at making political points off a tragedy IAB. Let`s just vilify everyone that`s anti-Obama or owns a gun.

Btw, You rarely ever hear of the women that thwart robberies/rapes (or worse) by being armed with a gun. Oh that`s right, It`s not P.C. How could owning a gun be a positive thing ? (At least that`s how the media and IAB thinks)

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Male 4,014
airsofter1 - let us know how many people email you so you can explain, in incomplete sentances rife with abriviations of three letter words like "u," and "y," why guns should not be illegal. I am sure you make a very compelling case.

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Male 4,014
I like how stupid people think that if guns didn`t exist murders would end.

And mass murders are not unique to America, despite the selective memories of some Europeans.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7630969.stm - Finland murderer killed 10 at a college, one year after another gunman killed 9 at a school.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/in-europes-league-of-school-shootings-germany-comes-top-1645387.html - Germany is second in the world in terms of School shootings, and one mass shooting happend within the last month.

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Male 516
"but it also proves GW supporting idiots thrive on killing."

tobyvictory, read below.

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Male 516
"Typical gun-toting american."

Yes, that`s absolutely true! All of us Americans carry guns wherever we go, and will shoot anyone else when the opportunity presents itself. In fact, I am holding a .44 in my hand right now as I type this, contemplating on whether or not I should shoot a fly that has just landed on my leg.


I don`t know which is more annoying: stereotypes, or the morons who believe every stereotype is true. If you wanted to make a compelling argument, Luistom, you just failed.

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Male 2,720
"doing research is fine and dandy but if it doesn`t say it in the vedio then it should not be said in tittle. my heart goes out to those officers and their familys"

Your spelling should be shot, pariahnola.

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Male 311
for a second i read "obama kills 3 pittspurgh cops"
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Male 649
doing research is fine and dandy but if it doesn`t say it in the vedio then it should not be said in tittle. my heart goes out to those officers and their familys
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Male 3,364
do some research folks. He was anti-President Obama. http://www.truveo.com/Stanton-Heights-Sh...
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Male 406
RobSwindol
Male, 30-39, Southern US
95 Posts Sunday, April 5, 2009 5:04:18 AM
Yeah, I didn`t hear anything about the guy being anti-Obama.

me too

Both of useless pos shouldn`t rely on bored for your news.

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Male 4,393

RobSwindol
Male, 30-39, Southern US
95 Posts Sunday, April 5, 2009 5:04:18 AM
Yeah, I didn`t hear anything about the guy being anti-Obama.

me too

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Male 406
Any idiot who will kill because George Bush isn`t president only proves they are an idiot. Sorry for the loss, but it also proves GW supporting idiots thrive on killing.
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Female 299
i live 30 min from pittsburgh and i didnt even hear about this...
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Male 88
This is why guns = fail.

Also, I heard nothing about Obama in this. Why the misleading captions?

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Male 778
Luistom
Male, 18-29, Europe
38 Posts Sunday, April 5, 2009 5:18:04 AM
That`s a sure way for him to make people change their mind on removing guns. Not. Typical gun-toting american.

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Oh shut the drat up... Europe has their crazies too.

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Male 438
hey, until you`ve held a gun in your hand, fired one and felt there pure awesomeness, stfu.
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Male 133
That`s a sure way for him to make people change their mind on removing guns. Not. Typical gun-toting american.
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Male 2,514
Yeah, I didn`t hear anything about the guy being anti-Obama.
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Male 2,388
"the worst thing Britain has is hooligans" gotta love Bill Hicks
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Female 1,653
Another case of somewhat innacurate titling.
Yes, we all noticed. No, we arent that bothered really.

Moving on...

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Female 4,028
"I don`t like your thoughts of gun control!"
*Shoots.*

Yeah... I`m sure that helped your case...

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Male 171
Where did the Anti-Obama part come from?
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Male 516
Wait...wait...wait.

Not to get off topic here, but did anyone read that opening caption:

"2 Officers Shot, 1 Injured."

WTF?! I

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Male 3,819
anglefan, your tin foil hat is crooked. Let me get that for you...
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Male 2,076
anglefan:

wikipedia "false flag" and "operation northwoods" ..that kind of thinking is not new, or "conspiracy"

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Male 80
Jesus Christ...Just enough for the President to go on t.v and tell everyone that we have to give up our guns. Its almost as if crap like this is staged by the govt.
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Male 1,365
This is terrible, I hope that the families of the slain officers will find peace and happiness someday.
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Male 126
this is the third time in 2 weeks ive heard about a crazed gunman killing people over nothing. this poo needs to end
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Male 4,012
Oh my... so much FAIL from the gunman it`s blinding.

It`s a sad day for families and friends of the guys who died, but they died for the cause. Kinda impossible that gun regulations won`t get more stringent from this event.

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Female 15,763
Wait a second... 2 shot, one injured?

Does that mean like, 1 officer was shot and injured and the other was shot and.. not.. injured..?

o-o

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Male 2
"Sometimes I hate the media. Talk about twisting an event/story."

Funny how some of the minor details AS TOLD BY A FRIEND OF THE GUNMAN and not the nut himself become major talking points. Regardless, how many reporters do you hear backing the citizen`s right to protect himself/herself from people like this with a firearm?

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Male 147
C.O.P. medic here,

You don`t know what you are talking about or what you say.

Pray for the Police, Fire and EMS

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Male 12,138
I`m all against gun ownership, but that has emphatically nothing AT ALL to do with this story. Guy was a spacebar, and this is really sad what happened here. I don`t care if he was a gun lobbyist, pro-Obama, member of the NRA... These are all superfluous details.

Sometimes I hate the media. Talk about twisting an event/story.

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Male 348
So... he apposes gun laws, but not homicide laws?
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Male 2
This thread deserves to be about the police officers and not this mental case. One of my cousins is a City of Pittsburgh officer, another works for the Port Authority and my brother is an officer just outside the city and I`m fortunate enough none of them were injured. I`m grateful they`re there to do a job most of us can`t or are unwilling to do. Remember what they put on the line everyday the next time you pissed about a ticket (that you probably deserved anyway).
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Male 308
ouch
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Male 61
peloos12

Congratulations, sir. You`ve proved the people who opposed your stance on gun rights to be correct, killed 3 innocent people, devastated the lives of the families who loved them, and landed yourself in jail for the rest of your life.

Mission a-f*cking-ccomplished, jagweed.
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Nice, my thoughts exactly.

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Male 1,089
well thanks to the liberal media this will be alllll over the news even tho if he wanted a gun and it was illegal he could still get one, just no law abieding citizens would have nothing to defend themselves with. also if u think guns should be illegal plz email me at [email protected] so i can explain to u y they shouldnt. thankyou.
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Male 633
God bless America. :-P
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Male 3,819
Congratulations, sir. You`ve proved the people who opposed your stance on gun rights to be correct, killed 3 innocent people, devastated the lives of the families who loved them, and landed yourself in jail for the rest of your life.

Mission a-f*cking-ccomplished, jagweed.

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Female 4
Actually, Bat_Girl! He shot five Cops.
Three were killed and two were injured. He began shooting after his Mother called the police to come and take his guns.
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Female 1,082
i dont understand what his stance on gun issues has to do with anything. and i feel so bad for those officers.
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Male 1,254
Certainly are a lot of gunman emerging from the woodwork nowadays. Likely connected the current economic state, just the push needed to send some people over the edge.

I just hope none of our elected officials decide to take advantage of these tragedies...

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Male 12,138
Sephiroth, SilentFray, thanks for the links/updates. Appreciated.
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Female 678
Update

"Two, why does it matter?"

Its all propaganda.

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Female 373
Depressing, but banning guns asside, I think you will find this sought of thing will become more and more prevailant. Least he was not dressed as Santa.
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Male 376
"The killer was a well-known & vocal opponent of Obama`s new gun legislation bill."

Oh boy. More fuel for the anti-gun crowd.

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Male 955
You can read up on it on yahoo, google it, etc.

And yea, makes sense, shoot cops because you don`t like the fact you may lose the ability to use them. Good plan.

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Male 10
"Police Chief Nate Harper said the motive for the shooting isn`t clear, but friends said the gunman recently had been upset about losing his job and feared the Obama administration was poised to ban guns."

Clearly just an unstable guy, not a case where you need to bring up the president. Press just loves mentioning him wherever they can.

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Female 103
One, where is the information that the shooter is anti-Obama?

Two, why does it matter?

Three, where does it say that three officers were shot? All I heard were that two were lying in the street, one possibly dead.

Four, I would just like to reiterate that sometimes, people really suck.

That is all.

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Male 3,819
How have I not heard about this until just now? Holy Christ... this is horrible.
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Female 4,197
wow. those poor people and their families. I hope this gets resolved soon.

keep me updated fancy

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Male 1,036
We can all agree that the man is first and foremost emtnally unbalanced, then an anti-obama supporter.
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Male 3,014
fancylad, I despise your new profile pic.
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Male 1,284
guns... are they the problem or the solution?
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Male 2,440
What a GREAT plan. "Obama wants to take away my gun, So I better change his mind by shooting people!"
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Female 323
actually, he killed 2 and injured one, didnt kill 3.
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Male 81
Death!
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Male 19,873
Link: Anti-Obama Man Kills 3 Pittsburgh Cops [Rate Link] - This took place this morning (4/4/09). The killer was a well-known & vocal opponent of Obama`s new gun legislation bill.
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