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Date: 03/13/09 12:01 PM

41 Responses to Toyota Prius Vs. BMW M3: What`s More Economical?

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    spp Female 18-29
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    March 13, 2009 at 10:27 am
    Link: Toyota Prius Vs. BMW M3: What`s More Economical? - The Top Gear boys put these two cars to the test.
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    Bag3l Male 13-17
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    March 13, 2009 at 12:16 pm
    Tru dat
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    maxxb117 Male 18-29
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    March 13, 2009 at 12:20 pm
    Car nerds... :P
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    RandyTheFool Male 18-29
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    March 13, 2009 at 12:21 pm
    Love me some Top gear.
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    icantthink41 Male 18-29
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    March 13, 2009 at 12:22 pm
    Everyone but the owners know the prius is junk.
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    TheSharpest Male 18-29
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    March 13, 2009 at 12:25 pm
    Wasn`t Toyota claiming the Prius could do like 36 miles/gallon? He only did 17.2 miles/gal. Either Toyota are professional bullsh*tters or he drived hideously. But now I remember Penn & Teller also tested the Prius and it didn`t do anything near 36 miles/gal.
    Anyways: suck it, Prius.
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    JumboCookie Male 18-29
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    March 13, 2009 at 12:31 pm
    The Prius is made for stop and go driving... I`d like to see the Beemer beat the Prius at what it`s designed for...
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    RandyTheFool Male 18-29
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    March 13, 2009 at 12:37 pm
    The Sharpest, they did say that they drove the Prius as fast as it could possibly go.
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    flyingpie Male 13-17
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    March 13, 2009 at 12:43 pm
    my prius gets 40 miles per gallon city
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    s0rd3dvis1on Male 18-29
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    March 13, 2009 at 1:02 pm
    fair enough im convinced
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    yellowsquare Female 18-29
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    March 13, 2009 at 1:05 pm
    Not to be a Debbie Downer, and I admit, I know not too much about cars, but didn`t the BMW have the advantage of the draft coming off the Prius?

    Would that make a significant difference in MPG?

    But still, Top Gear makes a good point about the environmental cost of builing a Prius.

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    Dakkar Male 18-29
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    March 13, 2009 at 1:13 pm
    The host made several claims that under those conditions, i.e. not city/stop-and-go driving, the M3 performed better. It would likely be redundant to point out that the Prius has optimal performance in city driving on Top Gear as nearly all of the viewers would know this already.

    I`ve never liked the Prius and I really don`t like Toyota too much either. Plus I refuse to drive something with a 4 cylinder, 1.5 L engine. Seriously? A little electric toy slot car gets more power than that. (Exaggeration)

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    Dakkar Male 18-29
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    March 13, 2009 at 1:17 pm
    Drafting does make a difference in MPG, benefiting the one who is drafting. But, 10 laps on a track would not account for a 2 MPG discrepancy.

    Plus, I`m not sure if he was close enough to be drafting. He actually may have been impeded by the Prius draft, but its tough for me to say either way.

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    Quackor Male 18-29
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    March 13, 2009 at 1:27 pm
    the prius was ahead, therefore cutting air to the m3, which makes this test more idiotic than comparing an m3 30% engine capacity to a prius 100% engine capacity.
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    m_glavina Male 18-29
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    March 13, 2009 at 1:43 pm
    Looks like I`m buying a brand new m3... lol
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    greengiant Male 13-17
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    March 13, 2009 at 2:28 pm
    I do hate prius owners :P Suck it, biatches ;-)
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    ballaerina Female 18-29
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    March 13, 2009 at 2:30 pm
    There`s a study out called the Dust to Dust report (google it) that tested the eco-friendliness of every car available. They took into account factors like production costs, transportation expenses, fuel consumption, reliability, parts, etc.

    The Hummer, which is made of cheap industrial steel and is assembled and manufactured in the US, is more economical -- all things considered -- than the Prius, which has expensive parts and is not very reliable.

    The most environmentally friendly car, according to the report, is the Scion xB -- cheap to build, easy to assemble, good mpg, and very reliable.

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    cool110 Male 13-17
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    March 13, 2009 at 2:48 pm
    they cut off the bit where they discussed stealing a petrol tanker
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    opiebreath Female 18-29
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    March 13, 2009 at 3:43 pm
    I`m probably not going to have a car for another 4 more years at least... so... I`ll see how the car market`s doing then.
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    Joolin Male 18-29
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    March 13, 2009 at 4:09 pm
    Ya, I think it`s pretty much unanimous now that Prius` are a scam perpetrated entirely to cash in on the suggestibility of the terminally hip.
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    Damshek Male 18-29
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    March 13, 2009 at 5:37 pm
    >which makes this test more idiotic than comparing an m3 30% engine capacity to a prius 100% engine capacity.<

    Quackor, that was exactly their point: it`s the WAY you drive that matters- Calm driving is more economical than an "efficient" engine.

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    don11817 Male 30-39
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    March 13, 2009 at 7:59 pm
    Ballaerina--in addition to your post, the Hummer has a life expectancy of 20 years or more, making it`s production cost slimmer and less of an environmental impact over time. In stark contrast, the Prius has a life expectancy of less than 10 years due to battery charge life--it is mor3e cost effective to replace the car than to replace the batteries-- so it`s cost of manufacture and it`s environmental impact is greater during it`s usable lifetime...
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    don11817 Male 30-39
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    March 13, 2009 at 8:02 pm
    And, Quackor--he`s not drafting-- he is at least 1-2 car lengths behind and in most of the shots more than that. You have to be right on the tail of the lead car-- within several feet-- to take advantage of draft, unless of course its a semi--then you still need to be within ten feet or you will actually get buffeted which is worse than driving without a lead car....
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    benalawson Male 40-49
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    March 13, 2009 at 9:06 pm
    THIS IS BS!!!! They siad the Prius was going as fast as it could. That means high RPMs! The BMW just had to keep up. Which means it was probably cruising at low RPMs! And drafting! This is BAD science.
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    F1r3w0lf Male 13-17
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    March 13, 2009 at 9:07 pm
    That`s my future car for you.
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    freddyferret Male 40-49
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    March 13, 2009 at 9:38 pm
    To all of the people griping about the Prius running at 100%. First, like many people have said it`s about driving smart, not fast. Second, they made good, valid points about the environmental damage done to make the Prius in the first place. There are many reasons I`d take the M3 over the Prius, this just adds to them.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    March 13, 2009 at 10:39 pm
    The problem with hybrids is that by the time you`ve driven one far enough that the fuel savings pay back the extra purchase price, it`s time to change the batteries which by then cost more than the car is worth.
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    dystopia04 Female 18-29
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    March 13, 2009 at 10:55 pm
    i still like priuses
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    bassdee Male 18-29
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    March 13, 2009 at 11:17 pm
    that`s the problem with the smart cars because they`re built more for the stop and go traffic in cities but put them on an open highway or a country road and they eat the gas like no other
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    yudontn0me Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2009 at 12:12 am
    drafting. look it up onmythbusters
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    March 14, 2009 at 2:24 am
    Not as "Green" a car as the Eco-hippies (and Al Gore) would have you believe.

    Lesson, By what you like and drive smart.

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    brandonabe Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2009 at 4:05 am
    Way too far back to receive any benefit from drafting, and most of the time he wasn`t even directly behind it.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    March 14, 2009 at 6:19 am
    This comparison was chosen for entertainment, but it does serve to make two serious points.

    i) A Prius is about either ignorance or politics, because it is *not* very eco-friendly. It`s about either pretending to be or not knowing that you aren`t being. It`s spin over substance. There are many cars that are far more eco-friendly than a Prius, even a Prius used solely for urban driving.

    ii) The way in which you drive has a very large impact on fuel economy. That was the main point of the track test, because the Prius was being driven as hard as possible (i.e. very bad for economy) and the M3 wasn`t. The M3 would probably get better mileage when driven a bit faster, actually.

    If you want the most eco-friendly car, an efficient ICE car is still the way to go. Cee`d, maybe, as they have a 7 year warranty (a sign that they`re durable) and 50mpg urban. Or a microbox like the Toyota iQ, which is OK for two people in town.

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    madest Male 40-49
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    March 14, 2009 at 7:03 am
    "The Prius was to be driven as fast as possible" So it never got to use the hybrid part of it`s design. The fewer gallons of gas a driver consumes is in direct relation to the fewer amount of dollars a raghead in the mideast would use to kill us with. A typical commuter to and from work each day would prefer the gas bill of a Prius I assure you.
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    yen223 Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2009 at 9:48 am
    What if you were driving efficiently in a hybrid? Or is that not possible??
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    March 14, 2009 at 3:01 pm
    There are far more economical ICEs than the one in the Prius. In real use, a Prius doesn`t get a good mpg figure. For example, Fifth Gear (a much more serious car program) did a reasonable combined cycle test with a Prius. Normal driving in normal conditions. They even swapped the drivers halfway through, to minimise any effects of driving style. The other car was a Jeep Patriot. They used the onboard computers...and then they measured the actual amount of fuel used and the actual distance driven, to get the real mpg.

    The Prius did beat the 1mpg. Oooh.

    If you want an eco-friendly car, there are much better options than a Prius.

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    Concordia19 Female 13-17
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    March 14, 2009 at 5:55 pm
    I drive a green prius. I love those cars. For driving around town you do save a lot of gas, it all depends on how fast you go. Driving back and forth from work, in one week it only has to be filled up once. In the our other cars they have to be refilled every 2-3 days.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    March 15, 2009 at 12:06 am
    So a Prius driven carefully in optimum conditions is more economical than a couple of unspecified cars. Not hugely impressive.

    Can you state what mpg you get from your Prius? Real mpg, not from the onboard computer (see the road test in my last post).

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    Dejack Male 18-29
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    March 16, 2009 at 12:51 am
    I completely agree that the driving style affects the car`s consumption, however this test should have been done in more realistic conditions. I mean, how often is a Prius driven "as fast as possibile"? Comparing the consumption in conditions one could find in a city (traffic lights, low speed) would have been better, to me.
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    wolfie665 Male 40-49
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    November 14, 2009 at 3:35 pm
    It is well known fact that all hybrid cars are more fashion statement scam then anything real, it is like Macs and PCs - a more a fashion item.

    Here is the last prove the big BMW 520 is much more fuel efficient in REAL world then a Prius joke.

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    wolfie665 Male 40-49
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    November 14, 2009 at 3:52 pm
    20 years ago in my Golf 1 turbo disel I was driving 1100 km (683 miles) with 50 litres (11 gallons) which makes about 62 mpg fuel consumption in real world driving. What about modern turbo diesels? Which raises the question why nobody makes diesel hybrids, makes much more sense for me? If you really want to be eco friendly go by Tesla car, although I am not sure because you need to calculate the price of the car as well - obviously with more complex and expensive cars goes more emmissions during manufacturing the car, so in the end if you buy second hand, like 20 years old Gold 1 TD, will be much better for the environment is it? Or maybe for a change stop bombing all over the world. That would be really eco friendly think to do :-)

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