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I`m not saying that the kid wasn`t messed up in the head to begin with, but I`m a little angry at the kids who teased him and the teachers who didn`t do anything about it. It is NOT okay to go and shoot somebody over that, but it is ALSO not okay to harass somebody or to overlook that.
A madman massacre would be mighty difficult with guns like that.
"Hey! where are you guys running too! Come back I`m starting a massacre here! "
Ah thank heavens that was then and this is now!It`s good to have the NRA protect my right to bear automatic arms and multiple 30 plus rounds per clip. Reloading sucks. I mean what if my families home was invaded by an entire troop of armed and crazed boy scouts?
Prevention is better than the cure - Anon.
What if a handgun is for protecting myself or my family? Can`t that intention be valid?
I mean, alcoholic beverages are INTENDED to make people feel good, with the nasty side effects of destroying their judgment, coordination, ability to reason, and their livers. Is alcohol okay?
Cigarettes are INTENDED to provide a light high, with the unfortunate side effects of toxic smoke inhalation, large cancer risk, and possibly the highest addiction rate save only meth and crack. No problem, right?
There`s always going to be dangerous people out there. They don`t need a gun; they can kill my daughter with their bare hands, a knife, a piece of window glass....
I want a gun for protection. From the bad guys.
How does it feel to be 4th, USA? Hmm?
It was making me feel like there is something in the water. Some government drug causing violent behavior in some that was released to the population`s water supply or some other food. But, I guess not.
Oh well, I`m a bad person =D!
I agree, these kids don`t do stuff like this because it`s so fun to kill people, they do it becasue they are depressed and desperate. Then again people who are depressed (and i mean really, not the emo whiny kind of depressed) tend to hide it i think, they act normal around other people.
But hey, on a brighter side this sort of reaffirms the article posted the other day about people in nigeria being more happy with their life than most westerners :P
why stop at people.. BAN LIFE.
killing innocent people...IS WRONG.
its pretty damn simple earth, grasp it.so, so sick of seeing the same story over and over again.
I have no sympathy for him as such - my sympathies are with the victims, their families and those left behind. Still though, why wasn`t his anger and depression picked up and dealt with? Maybe he could have been turned around.
Maybe. I don`t believe you`re born bad.
And myself yeah I do think guns should be banned, they`re designed to kill so why exactly should they be allowed?
Sad situation, feel awful for the people that have to endure such tragedies.
Yep cars kill people too. Funkiest thing though, cars, unlike handguns, aren`t designed with the sole purpose of ending the life of other human beings. Sometimes, they`re even designed with the intention of ferrying people from point A to point B.
And Primetime, nice little cameo study there about how gun murders dropped in a small US town after they relaxed gun control. I like to look at the bigger picture (I`m rad that way) and look at the global statistics.
Here`s the rub: it turns out countries where lots of people have access to guns have more gun deaths. Crazy sh*t, Rambo.
You`re not safe
ZOMG! Interrogate his gun!! That gun had no business being in that school!
vicious_liar: "Germany already banned guns (like many sensible European countries, but he stole the gun from his father who actually had a licence."
Which keeps proving my point that gun control doesn`t affect the criminal/psychopath/the guy who shouldn`t be handling guns. It only affects those who are responsible.
I`ll repost the link prime posted, because it makes more-than valid points.
Courtesy of prime.
Really? Because saying no guns in schools is a highly debatable issue where as saying outlaw handguns is just straight up retarded. I don`t know about you, but I`m not sure where the black market is. But I`ll go out on a limb and say any violent criminal does.
Sorry, that`s drated up.
Why couldn`t he just do drugs like a any other angry person
No, he got shot in the leg after which he shot his own brains out. CNN screwed up.
"I can`t wait for all the anti-gun nuts to start screaming for a gun ban. Because, you know, it`s the gun manufacturer`s fault!"
And what the hell is your problem today? It IS (at least partially) the guns fault. Studies have shown that if we would ban guns there would be 40 percent less murder. Reason enough, no? Besides, Germany already banned guns (like many sensible European countries, but he stole the gun from his father who actually had a licence.
That`s so unfair.
15 people gone, just like that in 1 day because some kid got angry. It`s funny how depressed you get when you realize just how mortal we are.
No second chances.
No last words.
They`re just ... Gone....
I`m Just saying
I`ll put a cigarette AND a beer in my mouth, and you put a gun in your mouth, and we`ll see who dies first.
Logic requires it.
And who said anything about a combo lock? Surely there are tons of better locks. What I would propose is a card swipe lock, where the card is turned in to the office after every day. If the card turns missing the office would have a back-up card that only an officer, or someone similar, where the gun would be removed from the room.And inside the card swiped section a different type of lock locks up the gun.
The lives of the few to help the many, is the general jist of what I`m saying.
*grins* I like your style Negative.
On a lighter note this story isn`t nearly as hilarious as the other breaking story on the news yesterday. Three deer ran through a liquor store!
Yeah, except the Marines in real life know how to deal with one gunman. Real life isn`t like a video game where every step is anonymous, and you don`t get several lives to try over and over with.
Anyway, this is horrible. People have counselors for a reason, why deal with it like this. People are are sick like this should be removed from school immidietly.
Nice idea. But why keep the gun locked up? I mean, by the time you start to hear the asplosions in the corridor, it might be too late to type in the code to unlock the gun. Hell, you might not even have time to take the safelty off before you get mowed down in hail of hot lead! Keep the gun ready, man, keep it locked and loaded, because they`re coming for you!
Now, hoe the f*ck did the kid get a firearm in the first place to go all Rambo on the school? Could it be that his dad/mom is a teacher, because now they all pack a loaded piece, readily available if you know the code to the cabinet?
And it`s not like kids would ever figure out the code to get the gun from the cupboard, right? It`s foolproof. Show me a kid who figured out who to use their dad`s credit card.
They are responsible for more death than guns.
Unfortunately yes, Luistom, giving a gun to someone who is properly trained to handle the gun would let them defend themselves.That`s why I`m saying properly train teachers in the use of firearms, will mandatory psychoanalysis`s would prevent school shootings to a degree.Keep the guns locked up until things heat up, and there won`t be a problem.
If you want to "nip it in the butt", build a time machine, go back in time, prevent gun powder from being invented, because nowadays you can easily get a gun illegally.
What the yellow rubbery f*ck are you talking about?
Why stop at teachers? Hell, let the students have guns! Why stop at students? Let everyone a gun! It`s a right under the amendmentblahblah that we have the right to bear armsblahblah written in the eighteen f*cking century.
The way to reduce gun deaths is to arm all the civilians (come on, it`s not like we`d lose our temper once in a while, in the heat of the moment!). Everyone has a gun = less gun fatalities. It`s an obvious formula.
Oh okay, so he`s excused from his heinous acts. His skin wasn`t thick enough to stop him from gunning down a bunch of students and teachers. My bad.
Get new friends.
WAIT A dratING COUPLE OF YEARS. High school is not `the best years of your life`. High school is a hellhole setting you up for the hellhole that will be the rest of your life. Deal with it. Can`t deal with it? Then kill yourself in solitude. If he had killed only himself, people may have actually thought `hmm, wish i spent some time with that guy`. What are they going to think now? `Man, I was drating smart to stay away from that psycho`. What has he gained?
Pathetic drating loser.
Also, whoever started talking about gun control. Yeah, because one example of somebody using a gun in a gun-controlled place REALLY means that everybody should be waving guns around willy-nilly and the world be safer. Get a life. How about you compare average gun deaths between each country and see where you end up. More guns would not make anybody safer, and giving TEACHERS guns?? Get a grip. I had a teacher in junior high screaming right in front of a students face for being a bitch. If he had a gun? Jesus. I would not step foot in a school that drating expects every classroom to have a gun in it. I might as well just go to drating prison for that kind of atmosphere.
And I feel for the sisters.I knew one whose brother only made threats, and his name rarely went unmentioned by strangers at the sound of hers.Selfish coward.
Far easier said than done.
As for the guns in the classroom thing, I think making guns *that* accessible in the classroom would make things more dangerous. They wouldn`t even have to get the gun somewhere else, or smuggle it past security, they could just overpower the teacher.
Plus, let`s not forget how stressed out teachers can get. I`ve been in a few very tense classrooms and I hate to think what would happen if the teacher got pushed too far while they had a gun. The natural reply to this is that "no one would mess with a teacher with a gun" but we all know kids would mess with them anyways. Kids are stupid and would be "sure" that the teacher would never pull a gun on them, no matter how far they got pushed in the non-physical sense.
We already tried that.
so the kid has the gun, you give the tacher a gunkid gets bigger gun, give the teacher bigger gunkid gets tank... do we give the teachers tanks?
this is not the answer, it needs to be nipped in the bud BEFORE the kids get their hands on the guns. Bullying is the majority reason for kids shooting up schools. Stop the bullying and you will find school shootings will go down in number
Only in the US, you may think it`s safe but apparently not. I`ve been to a couple schools, and none except my high school have had any. We have 1 cop with a tazer at my high school. That`s it.
Goes to show more gun control isn`t the best.
If teachers were allowed to carry firearms, I personally guarantee that this kid wouldn`t have made a single kill.
Time it takes police to arrive -- 10 minutes - 30 minutesTime it takes to pull a trigger -- a split second
Notice we never get articles like "Man shoots 50 people at NRA meeting.", we only get shootings at "gun free zones"... ad libbed from Penn and Teller`s Bull$hit episode about gun control.
when will people learn D;
Imagine being that guy`s sister at the school. You would get anything from death threats to pity from the other students.
How have you not been banned yet?