Harvard Economist On Why Pot should Be Legalized

Submitted by: Monty_Python 7 years ago

An interesting video interview Harvard economist Jeffrey Miron on why marijuana should be legalized. Harvard economist!
There are 90 comments:
Female 98
For those of you that are being incredibly ignorant in saying pot dangerous and all that bull, do you remember this link?
10 Most Successful Potheads

Also, if you think pot is horrible don`t smoke it. However, if I would like to, no one but me has the right to tell me if I can or can`t. If it SOOO bad, I`m not hurting anyone but myself, and I am allowed to make those decisions for myself. ALSO also, pot does not always make you lazy. I have been known to power through enormous amounts of food while high. It also makes sex amazing, and it has defintely been helpful with my song and screenplay writing. So in other words... if you don`t like it, don`t smoke it. and shut the hell up.

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Male 1,140
im getting sick of all these people lying about marijuana, saying that its a horrible thing to try and if you do you`ll die very quickly and jump oof a building if you dont die. NO YOU WON`T cigarettes and alcohol are more dangerous than any variation of pot
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Male 6
lol, `things like that` I think that `ol Jeff might not be exactly who he says he is....
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Male 2
djmofo117 is by far of the the most ignorant and uninformed people i have ever seen. Marijuana and Meth are not even closely related, meth is one of the most addictive and dangerous drugs available while marijuana is one of the safest and least addictive. people do not rob and steal and kill for weed money, because weed isnt expensive. i work at a minimum wage job, but i still can buy as much as i need, yet i still have my own car, pay my own bills, and still have money left over. I am an honor student with a 3.7 gpa.

Alcohol is much more addictive and dangerous for your health, a lot easier to get a hold of, and much cheaper. 80% of domestic abuse cases involve alcohol. but its still legal. so how can you say that smoking marijuana should be a crime when all it does is make people just sit at home and watch TV and eat junk food?

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Male 2,313
"Yes, i realize that you cannot OD on marijuana but it makes you extremely lazy"

How about you stop making blatant generalizations? There are plenty of completely functional marijuana users who have full time jobs and are making a life for themselves. Just because they happen to enjoy smoking pot doesn`t mean they`re lazy.

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Male 31
This idea is almost as stupid as the legalize crime spoof that was posted a while back. If we legalize crime we are in a sense crime free. If we legalize drug use... drug related crimes will go down. You see how that works. Either way, how is someone supposed to support a "healthy" drug habit. Im sure that if meth was legalized all meth addicts would get a 9 to 5 job to support their addiction. NO, that`s not the case if anything they are still going to steal, still going to rob (with guns), still going to perform prostitution to now support their legal drug habit. If anything the current law helps limit people from over indulging in drugs by making them somewhat hard to obtain as well as extremely expensive. If the law allows drugs to be sold legally im sure the cases for OD will substantially increase. Yes, i realize that you cannot OD on marijuana but it makes you extremely lazy and if anything a burden on society.
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Female 360
I think that all drugs should be legalized. It`s the decision of each person if they want to take the drugs or not. And most people who want to try drugs, in general, are able to get them.
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Male 66
Oh my, all the "war on drugs" cops will be out there giving parking tickets!!!!!!!
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Male 362
make people have a license to grow
tax problem solved
....numbskulls
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Male 395
"pot will never be legalized unless the government comes up with a way to tax it." I disagree. They could make pot more readily avaible to the public by drying and packaging it. Pot can`t be the only thing they can`t tax.
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Male 4
omg thats dope. lol

its hard to argue any of his points

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Male 1,089
soooo tru. alot of things should be legal that rnt. goverment doesnt understand the most basic economics and just wants to "protect u" all bull.
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Female 19
pot will never be legalized unless the government comes up with a way to tax it.

because right now you can grow it at your house for free.

if they really cared about ow it affected us, or any of that bullpoo they would make alcohol and cigarettes illegal.

but they won`t, because there`s too many americans paying the government to feed their addiction. :D

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Male 216
Agreed, but if you`re going to legalize it I would suggest increasing tax money put into rehabilitation clinics. In doing so you would increase the availability of said facilities.
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Female 531
this is all making me really sad because all i have is a bag of dirt and my connection in missoula is being shy... WHAAAAA!!!
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Male 2,245
i don`t want marlboro spliffs, but politically i think that all drugs should be legal, but morally i think that drugs should be controlled, but ultimately i don`t give a sh*t. i`ll choose to smoke weed if i want to anyway.
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Male 612
CrakrJak
I can tell you never smoked the ganja.
You have no clue of what id does to you or the effect it has on the ability to operate machinery,when you are stond you still have common sence and you wont go on the streets going 90 down a residential road. You would drive more like a old person.


FOR THE RECORD- If you never tried it or any other drug don`t post because you don`t really know the implications it has on the human body. You can`t only go by what other people told you and want you to think.

SMOKE B4 U POST...

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Female 495
Harvard also gave the world Henry Kissinger and Samuel Huntington...

A man might be one of the smartest minds, he may be a professor at Harvard but that doesn`t make him right.

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"The only people opposed to the legalization of marijuana are people who have never really smoked it. That is why they are totally ignorant about the subject and should do some first hand research before spewing their unfounded opinions".

Seems like you need to do some research before spewing your ignorant and unfounded opinions. I smoked it for 6 years. I also took other drugs in that time and loved every minute of it.

I am against legalisation.

Other people on this forum have also said they used to smoke it, and don`t support legalisation.

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Female 41
"Let`s be clear about one thing... if Hardard-educated economists were spending less time smoking drugs we might not be in a DEVISTATING GLOBAL FINANCIAL CRISIS!!"

Or rather, if Harvard economists convinced the government to legalize and tax marjiuana, we wouldn`t be in a financial crisis.

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Male 99
The only people opposed to the legalization of marijuana are people who have never really smoked it. That is why they are totally ignorant about the subject and should do some first hand research before spewing their unfounded opinions.
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Male 5,314
BORING
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Male 122
Harvard economist indeed!

A subject matter expert - no doubt.

Let`s be clear about one thing... if Hardard-educated economists were spending less time smoking drugs we might not be in a DEVISTATING GLOBAL FINANCIAL CRISIS!!

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Female 133
hehehe. we do all the tests. But then our european weed tends to be a teeeeeeny *;)* bit stronger than the American stuff, so we have more reason to do tests. Also, Weed has now been jacked back up to a class B drug here. But I personally think that legalised weed would do wonders for the market.

IT`D BE CHEAPER! I mean sure, I can get an ounce of white widow for £30, but my mates a dealer. Otherwise, and ounce is like £70 for everyone else.

And my dad smoked weed for his MS. It`s proven it helps slow down the effects and reduces the pain.

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Male 74
crakrjak.

Don`t believe the european studies, they have been wildly misquoted in the newspapers, in fact recent research has shown that THC has in inhibiting effect on lung cancer tumours, slowing their growth and halting their spread! This backed up the first epidemioligical study of 20,000 cannabis users that showed a reduced risk of developing lung cancer when compared to NON-SMOKERS!!!!! Sadly the UK government are convinced that it turns you schizophrenic, there is no scientific basis for this, the paper being misquoted is one that stated that people with latent schizophrenia MAY present their symptoms early. Something which was mentioned as a positive in the paper as it would get people who need mental health help into the system earlier and thus have a better chance of medication and a relatively "normal" life

Also unlike alcohol cannabis doesn`t promote risk taking or give a false sense of the user`s impairment so driving isn`t inhibited anywhere near as much.

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Male 17,512
fillemorte: Saying marijuana has never killed anyone is a flat out lie. It doubles the risk of certain cancers and doubles the incidence of schizophrenia (these are European studies). That`s not even counting how many people high on marijuana have killed themselves or others in cars, trucks, and other machinery.

It decreases reaction time like alcohol, You only think it doesn`t because your brain fools you into thinking your still normal (as does alcohol in many cases).

Personally I think this legalization idea is to keep people stoned and not giving a poo about things so they won`t care about the future or the radical changes going on in the world right now.

This world keeps taking the blue pill, No one wants to know the real truth.

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Male 1,365
The human mind needs very little tweeking, when we mix an outside and intrusive chemical into our system we change our substructure in a small molecular way. However in saying that, if people want to be chronic, they should pay taxes and enjoy their freedom, after all it was legal until 1934, Big Oil lobbyists felt that the hemp contract should go to Nylon. And Assmeata can kiss my sack with her bollywood garbage spam.
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Male 639
"if drugs make you go insane do you really think they would have been in use for thousands of years in rituals and ceremonies ???"

People who say that are too ignorant to listen to (just the drugs making you insane part). It`s interesting but loads of illegal drugs have been shown to be safer than some legal ones.

Check out this BBC link:

Scientists Want New Drug Rankings

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Male 2,388
if drugs make you go insane do you really think they would have been in use for thousands of years in rituals and ceremonies ???
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Male 650
There`s a reason why drugs have rankings
some of them really make you go insane, permanently
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Male 1,153
yeh, ive driven while high before. its not a good idea though. its scary more anything.
I drove sooo much more cautiosly. but it wasn`t fun, so i dont plan on doing it again.

this video showes why exactly why weed should be legalised. im gonna suggest this link to iab.
its called Irony Of It All by The Streets.
truest thing ive heard in ages

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Female 10
"What about the fact that people who drive while they`re high are far more likely to crash and endanger other people?"

As is drinking, and speaking on the cell phone.
It should be illegal for people to drive under the influence, and it should be illegal for Under18 or 21. In my opinion.

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Male 650
also just because a drug like alcohol is legal doesn`t mean it is legal to drive on it.
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Male 650
Quack_stud, your ignorance can be shown with this video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z5jkYvKs...
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Male 438
What about the fact that people who drive while they`re high are far more likely to crash and endanger other people?
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Female 142
The people in charge are too wrapped up in taboos to realize how much legalizing pot would help the economy. Just think, growing pot becomes a job skill. All of a sudden growers are employed and stimulating the economy.
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Male 1,788
"I don`t see legalizing other drugs as good. A lot of the reasons people don`t do meth or crack is because it`s illegal."

Really? Because I think a lot of people don`t do meth or crack because it f*cks you up big time.

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Male 362
i know i said i wouldnt involve myself in this thread but im drunk so i cant be held responsible for my actions
gilly_60
if pot was legalized, the cheapest place to get it WOULD be the legal places.
try buying some backyard moonshine and you`ll see what i mean
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Female 472
I don`t see legalizing other drugs as good. A lot of the reasons people don`t do meth or crack is because it`s illegal. This guy makes some good points but marijuana isn`t dangerous like those ones.
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Male 92
By the way, I think this guys an idiot. A high-school student could have come up with that, oh wait, they have.
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Male 92
gilly, last time I checked, you can`t download weed. So how is it like pirated DVDs and music?
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Male 147
"No, you canNOT make that same argument with alcohol. Alcohol was instilled within our society and culture"

You didn`t address my analogy within the context I used it, so yeah, that`s a Strawman fallacy if I`ve ever seen one.

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Male 1,788
"yet with how easy it is to get weed illegally, teens and young adults will more likely abuse the crap and stupify our nation. and billions are spent on drug rehabilition (clinics, medical bills) every year, which will only get worse with legalization."

Yeah...because weed is addictive right? Also, you just said it`s so ridiculously easy to get..how would that change if it`s legal? It would be HARDER to get by your own dumb logic.

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Female 1,082
the last one is obvious and ive been saying it for years. the only reason it is illegal is because it is perceived as immoral and dangerous. in my opinion, dangerous: yes, immoral: no. but this is irrelevent since the government isnt supposed to have any power in the making of personal decisions on the basis of morality. and as far as the danger goes there are plenty of other things that are just as dangerous that are legal- alcohol for example.
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Male 56
To Gilly 60
When your are old enough to vote, old enough to buy alcohol and tobacco legally then come post, the amount of risk involved when you are over 18 is exponentially higher than when u r a minor. An adult gets arrested for drugs it stays on their records and can stay with you till you are dead, you get arrested as a minor it can disappear when you turn 18.
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Male 101
gilly. grow up a few years, become a realist, and take your face out of your mothers bosom. Do you know what 3.5 grams of pot goes for in America (provided it is quality, and not schwag)? 50 dollars. Legalization ups the supply, which drives down price. You have managed to offer an eighth grade response to the question.
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Male 16
They make way to much money off of people contributing their money to them to care anymore.
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Male 612
IT IS A PLANT...
who is to say we cant grow it...
it was here before human kind was and it grows naturally around the world.
they should at least let a person grow it themselves for personal use.
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Male 268
Harvard, you say?
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Male 1,244
I am NEVER going to do drugs! Including cigarettes, and EXCESSIVE alcohol... It just wrecks your bod...
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Male 108
can we stop posting these damn things about weed already I-A-b?
no matter what you argue, it`s not going to happen, it`s too much of a change.
if it was legalized, people wont buy it from the government and pay the tax that it sure to come along with it, it will be the same as bootleg DVds and pirated music, you get it from wherever it`s cheapest. so it wont help the economy as much, and yes alcohol is more instilled in society, but that`s BECAUSE it`s legal, and also it`s heavily guarded, teeens can`t get their hands on LARGE AMOUNTS of it very easily, so they can`t abuse the substance, yet with how easy it is to get weed illegally, teens and young adults will more likely abuse the crap and stupify our nation. and billions are spent on drug rehabilition (clinics, medical bills) every year, which will only get worse with legalization.
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Female 1,231
I can see the logic in his arguments, but he needs to learn more effective rhetoric. A public speaker he is not, and he`ll never convince anyone that way.
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Male 1,204
actually, i just realized something. I didn`t even say American. I said our society. Meaning US. United States. United States declared independance 1776. Not near as old as 5000 years. or 2500 years. Nor does it say American. the US does not make that much pot. alcohol isn`t even a cash crop. idiot. it`s a drug. made from fermentation of different plants. go get some facts and learn your chemistry.

In the end, kindlykat has won this debate.

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Male 1,204
I`m sorry SPrinkz, my facts may have looked wrong, but that`s only because you misinterpreted them. And I apologize, if I ever refer to Americans, I will remember to say United Statesians next time, just for you. Happy?

And trust me, alcohol is much more instilled within the UNITED STATES` society. happy? The United States was created after the discovery of both marijuana and alcohol, so the time of discovery of those drugs has no effect upon how much it effects the society.

However, when we talk about legalization and prohibition in the UNITED STATES, i commonly go under the assumption people understand I`m talking about the UNITED STATES. way to fail.

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Male 1,204
"A) Marijuana has been around in the world culture for about 5,000 years. Alcohol, about half that.
B) Marijuana has been used in rituals for thousands of years as well.
C) Marijuana is the biggest cash crop in America.
D) Marijuana was a big part of the hippie movement which revolutionized our culture, and destroyed a lot of prejudices about sexuality.
E) Nearly 50% of Americans have tried marijuana. "

I`m talking about the US society. not America in general, however, when I say "Americans" I generally mean people in the US because i cannot say United Statesians. My facts are based upon US history. Alcohol has been tried by MUCH more people, and MUCH more people are addicted to alcohol, and alcohol has MUCH more of a medical use due to its properties in titration reactions, cleansing, fuels, etc. Alcohol is more practical in its usage, is commonly drinked by people every day, can be taken in small quantities where it will have little effect upon peopl

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Male 2,855
he moves back and forth like a girly girl talking to her sweety pie

also as a "harvard" economist he talks a lot about psychology and crime, basing his ramblings on "I Think"`s and "I Believe"`s and not on actual statistic data, he says millions of dollars would be made by taxing drug use, any home schooled hobo could make that assumption, as a "harvard" economist he should be able to say exactly how much money and in what period of time. my guess, he is an idiot.

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Male 292
Well it worked for amsterdam. I say go for it!
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Male 3,314
He`s an economist, and he`s making five points. Only one of those five points have ANYTHING to do with the economy. If an FBI detective came around and talked about the economy, we wouldn`t care that he`s from the FBI, as he`s not an expert on the economy. The same goes for this guy. I don`t care that he`s from Harvard. He`s not a criminologist, so I don`t really think he`s someone who should be making points about that stuff. Stick to the economy when making an argument from the point of view of an economist.
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Male 362
i was all excited to see a pro-legalization post but then i just saw things about clean heroin needles. the only thing relevant in his speech was the crime due to drugs, everything else either everyone already knows, or is completely irrelevant.
thebandit does not approve, and thus will not argue in this thread
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Male 639
Legalise ecstasy, cannabis and magic mushrooms and decriminalise the rest. Don`t make criminals out of drug users, make criminals out of drug smugglers and drug lords.
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Male 7,378
Although I agree with this guy his credentials don`t impress. How many Harvard educated economists did it take to destroy our economy?
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Male 2,440
Ugh... Harvard (cock)

I would say I could care less if pot was legal (I don`t use it myself), but prisons are overpopulated with potheads and that`s just moronic. Alcohol is legal, but yet pot isn`t. Doesn`t make much sense does it?

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Male 1,078
Kindly:

That was a genius comment.

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Female 427
I tried to watch this video, but then I got high.
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Male 2,290
"No, you canNOT make that same argument with alcohol. Alcohol was instilled within our society and culture, marijuana was not. Alcohol is seen everywhere, referred to everywhere, marijuana, although in pop culture is joked about, is not near as instilled as alcohol is into our economy, culture, society, etc."

A) Marijuana has been around in the world culture for about 5,000 years. Alcohol, about half that.
B) Marijuana has been used in rituals for thousands of years as well.
C) Marijuana is the biggest cash crop in America.
D) Marijuana was a big part of the hippie movement which revolutionized our culture, and destroyed a lot of prejudices about sexuality.
E) Nearly 50% of Americans have tried marijuana.

Please get facts next time.

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Female 1,677
Blah blah blah we get it. Enough with all the pot posts lately.

I want to add though, that marijuana would probably LESSEN car accidents because a lot are just caused by road rage and crazy people in a rush.

Everybody would be much calmer after a nice spliff is all I`m sayin`.

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Male 1,078
Prime:

You know the Harvard newspaper has over 300 editors? Lol, it`s because nobody can stand being merely a reporter.Mind you, I`m still aiming for Harvard myself. Asian and all that.

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Male 7,933
"there should also be a medical tax on the drugs so it does not put a strain on the healthcare system"

hmm... a tax on something I don`t use... BRILLIANT! I love it.

"if they made pot legal i dont think they would make driving on pot legal"

Its something hard to test

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Male 10
i`m pro legalization, but this guy is kinda an idiot, i mean he didn`t say anything new, it was all old stuff everybody already knew. i don`t mean he`s stupid but if you have to do research for 15 years for that information, wow
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Male 125
im all for drugs,but i just thought that,what is no stopping heroine addicts from spending all money on drugs either way?
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Male 7,933
For the record Harvard is overrated.

Thats all I have to say... nothing else. Very little relation to the video itself

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Male 122
You know, for him being put on a pedestal for being a Harvard economist, this didn`t have much to do with economics. I`m pro-legalization, but this video didn`t bring anything new to the table, except for the fact that the stance is endorsed by a guy who works at Harvard.
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Male 1,204
"You could make the same argument on the prohibition of alcohol, it doesn`t change the fact that lifting the prohibition boosted our economy by that much and put rum runners and gangs that relied on the black market sale of alcohol out of business.

We have laws that control the use of alcohol such as an age limit and laws that prohibit driving under the influence, I`m sure it would be no different if marijuana were made legal."

No, you canNOT make that same argument with alcohol. Alcohol was instilled within our society and culture, marijuana was not. Alcohol is seen everywhere, referred to everywhere, marijuana, although in pop culture is joked about, is not near as instilled as alcohol is into our economy, culture, society, etc.

Not really for the legalization, but i wouldn`t really mind it. Just don`t mess on my lawn.


...economist... marxist... COMMUNIST?!

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Female 15,763
With my horribly limited and sophomoric understanding of economics, this seems fine. Then again, I was never really for the "war on drugs" or the illegalization of marijuana to begin with...
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Female 741
"Educated Idiot, Yeah just give up on making the country better.. Let everyone get stoned legally so there are more car accidents and fatalities.. Dumb"


haha this guy is so going to get drunk later and drive home, thinking he`s WAY safer then the "dumb" pot smoker.

If you knew anything about anything, more car accident happen under the influence of alcohol ( which is legal ), then marijuana.

People who smoke pot, think more..then you THINK.

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Male 147
"Educated Idiot, Yeah just give up on making the country better.. Let everyone get stoned legally so there are more car accidents and fatalities.. Dumb"

You could make the same argument on the prohibition of alcohol, it doesn`t change the fact that lifting the prohibition boosted our economy by that much and put rum runners and gangs that relied on the black market sale of alcohol out of business.

We have laws that control the use of alcohol such as an age limit and laws that prohibit driving under the influence, I`m sure it would be no different if marijuana were made legal.

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Female 741
It sucks because there`s still IGNORANT phucks out there that will not listen NO MATTER what..even from some of the smartest people, who think out every side of a problem.

The cops have got you in a bind you blind peeps, but that`s fine..It`s so much better having our jails stuffed to maximum, and cops getting paid bank.


I am against heroin, but I did see a documentary on a place that gives them a place to use clean needles, and a safe place, actually seemed a lot better then just giving the blind eye or just locking them up.

Marijuana has never killed anyone, pain killers & sleeping pills have killed a lot of people, so personally if you`re gonna make something illegal because it`s negative effects on peoples` life expectancy ..PAIN PILLS AND ALCOHOL SHOULD BE ILLEGAL.

If your gonna just be ignorant, go jump off a cliff, because no one likes to deal with ignorant dumb phuck with no facts to back up anything.

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Male 8,302
Oh well, he`s a Harvard Economist, he MUST be right and perfect and not have any opinions swayed by normal human frailty. Like the cops and priests that have seen flying saucers.
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Male 1,788
"Educated Idiot, Yeah just give up on making the country better.. Let everyone get stoned legally so there are more car accidents and fatalities.. Dumb"

I`m just curious what kind of economics degree you have, and how many studies you have done on the subject. Mhmmm...

"there would be less crime because you eliminate the law that says its wrong, making it okay. Thats a stupid thing to say."

You misunderstood, he`s talking about drug-related crime violence..aka, murders, rapes...etc...

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Male 249
if they made pot legal i dont think they would make driving on pot legal....like on cigerettes and booze they probably should ban it if they could but its so socially acceptable and they make so much tax money that theyd be screwed if they did. with weed there`s the potential to make so much money on it. but then again turning the public into a load of druggies probably isnt in their best interests either..
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Male 488
it gives our kittens homes!
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Female 99
there would be less crime because you eliminate the law that says its wrong, making it okay. Thats a stupid thing to say.
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Male 1,526
I love how IAB is so pot liberal now...fancyclad for president, the rest of the world would follow if usa legalizes it
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Male 612
CrakrJak
how many drunk driving accidents are there...
also when you are stoned you really concentrate on the simple things, id rather get in a accident with a stoner than a drunk driver.
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Male 612
there should also be a medical tax on the drugs so it does not put a strain on the healthcare system
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Male 670
Stare into the smart guy`s eyes.
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Male 17,512
Educated Idiot, Yeah just give up on making the country better.. Let everyone get stoned legally so there are more car accidents and fatalities.. Dumb
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Male 715
Good points or not, they`re looking for any excuse to legalize it.
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Male 4,290
Well I agree with his stance on legalising weed, and the needle exchange thing seems like a good idea as long as it doesn`t increase heroin usage, but I don`t agree with legalising many other drugs. Certainly not heroin or cocaine. They`re too destructive.
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Male 341
This is awesome! He makes a lot of good points that really make sense and have evidence behind them. Just a point, they should have made this video 17 seconds shorter.
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Male 469
Link: Harvard Economist On Why Pot should Be Legalized [Rate Link] - An interesting video interview Harvard economist Jeffrey Miron on why marijuana should be legalized. Harvard economist!
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