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Still, 100 mile range? No thanks. Also doesn`t seem to have a trunk. I mean, it`s a good start, but they really need to improve that range and give it a way to carry stuff before I`d consider one.
Besides, battery-powered cars are not the future. They don`t go very far, don`t go very fast and take ages to charge. Plus you can`t trust mile-range figures, just like you can`t trust manufacturer`s mpg figures. Hydrogen is better, or it will be when we can get H2 cleanly and greenly.
The video claims 9 cents per mile for gas cars. Amortizing the cost of the engine isn`t necessary because engines typically outlast the typical useful life of the car (i.e., 200,000 miles). You need to amortize the cost of the battery because it does not outlast the life of the car.
The battery technology just isn`t advanced enough yet to make them competitive, Yet.
I am sure that they can soon make a 4 person version, but I don`t need a 4 person version so it would be fine for me. I would only need it for longer drives anyways. I have a perfectly good set of legs, and for medium distances, my city has public transportation.
Just like combustion engine cars did since the 1900`s.
I`m pretty sure part of the idea is to stand out. The primary design goal of that car was aerodynamic efficiency. It was originally designed for an engine. Which it got 300mpg out of.
"I love it. Now you just need to invent a faster way to refuel it. 8 hours is a bit long to hang around in the gasstation if you want to go coast to coast for example."
8 hours for charging is a limitation imposed by the fact that a normal house outlet can`t supply near enough energy to charge a battery quickly enough. Certain batteries (A123`s LiFes come to mind) can charge in 15 minutes. I don`t remember the capacity of the Aptera`s, but a house outlet would have to provide 20kW to charge even a small 5kWh pack that fast; over ten times what a regular 15A North American outl
Tesla Roadster would be a better showcase item as far as 100% electric car go.
No, the Tesla is over $100,000 because it`s a sexy, sexy sports car. Oh, yeah...I guess the $30,000 battery in it doesn`t help...
"If electric cars didnt look like alien pieces of poo i would buy one instead of my 08 accord"
Point conceded. I have no idea WTF the start-up EV companies are doing.
"For hydrogen cars you don`t buy hydrogen, you put an electrical current though water to liberate the hydrogen to power the vehicle. Now you know..."
No, the idea was, in fact, to replace all the gas stations with hydrogen stations. I don`t even know where the drat they come up with these ideas...
Then they decided to throw in the ability to have the car make it`s own H2 as well, only the coulombic efficiency of the electrolysis/fuel cell combo isn`t spectacular, whereas more advanced batteries store and provide energy at close to 100% efficiency.
It`s a commuter. You charge when you`re not using it. Keep the gas for the road trips you take a few times a year until some crazy battery with a 15MJ/l capacity (which, in effect, make it as energy dense as gasoline) comes along.
So? Even if the gas was used to make electricity, a power plant does twice as well as an engine at extracting every joule they can out of it (since more energy per gallon is more profit per gallon) and can scrub more pollutants out of the waste.
LOL @ walking.
Nine cents per mile is very low for a gas car. If you`re going to amortize the battery cost for the electric, you have to amortize the engine cost for the gas.
The only batteries that can even come close to validating that second part are lead-acid, which are quickly becoming obsolete, and are pretty sound if recycled.
But, uh...I`m not getting into the environmental aspect. It just starts arguments, because there`s generally skewed information, on both sides, EVERYWHERE, so nothing ever gets agreed upon.
I might buy one in... 10 years?
Do you know how long I have to run this device to get enough hydrogen to run a hydrogen car for 120 miles? And what is the power draw from this device?
But I`m stuck in Florida, damn it.
ok....so if i want to go to a Marlins game I can just walk 25 miles....
I think I`d rather save $75,000 and let it charge all night.
Most cities have so much sprawl, that walking is just not an efficient use of time.
An 8 hour charge to go 120 miles, doesn`t seem that good to me.
Also, where does the electricity come from? this will just increase the demand for electricity rather than gas
The best transport is walking, since there is no production of the bike involved, and better than walking is walking naked, but society frowns on it
Just because something can be recycled does not mean that the recycling is good for the environment. Most recycling processes do more damage to the environment than is done by simply throwing the object away.
I want to drive something that looks like that.
"if i was rich i would totally consider buying it."its 25,000. You don`t have to be rich.
"Sorry, roosterroachmobile vs. dump truck, guess who wins."
I think in a few years when its proven to work consistently I`ll get one
When you really go in and crunch the numbers, you end up doing at least as much damage to the environment manufacturing batteries as you do harvesting and burning gasoline.
Bicycles, on the other hand, require very few materials to manufacture and the only fuel required to run them is food and water for the rider.
As for distance, it`s all about mass transit - trains and buses.
I think you`re better off biking...
thats why i hate those morons with hybrids, theyre doing more damage
the best alternative to petrol cars is Hydrogen cars which.
Maybe they could make it so the battery was universal and you could just get your battery swapped out with a fully charged one at a gas station.
So he`d have to wait 8 hours to go to the store later. XD
"DAAAAD!! can you come up here please?!"
although last time i heard of it, it was considered an enclosed mortercycle, so it could only be licensed in california due to some sort of by laws.
i dont think thats changed yet. but it also isnt much more expesive then a regular car, so if you live in cali, buy it.