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132 Responses to Video Evidence China`s Spacewalk Was Fake

  1. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    February 8, 2009 at 7:45 am
    Link: Video Evidence China`s Spacewalk Was Fake - From the land of the fake iPods, fake Nikes, fake Viagra, etc...
  2. Profile photo of yofuzzy
    yofuzzy Male 13-17
    310 posts
    February 8, 2009 at 9:21 am
    whats next? Faking the age of their olympians? not letting a little girl perform with her beautiful voice because her face isnt pretty enough in the openining ceremony? CGI-ing the fireworks for TV because of the smog? oh wait....
  3. Profile photo of Mo73
    Mo73 Male 30-39
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    February 8, 2009 at 9:25 am
    lol..thats great.
  4. Profile photo of Norsak
    Norsak Male 18-29
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    February 8, 2009 at 9:41 am
    Very interesting! When did this supposedly happen?
  5. Profile photo of seamonkeyX
    seamonkeyX Male 18-29
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    February 8, 2009 at 9:43 am
    i think i missed something... what does under-age gymnasts have to do with the space launch?
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    BlackiPod Male 18-29
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    February 8, 2009 at 9:45 am
    The better question would be, "Who DOESNT hate China?"
  7. Profile photo of Rick_S
    Rick_S Male 40-49
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    February 8, 2009 at 9:45 am
    I have a hard time believing that this video is fake. The evidence certainly seems to be there, but people have been saying our landing on the moon was fake since it happened, and offered all kinds of "evidence". Could it be that the evidence in this video was faked? I just don`t know.
  8. Profile photo of Rick_S
    Rick_S Male 40-49
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    February 8, 2009 at 9:47 am
    SeamonkeyX: There were accusations that the Chinese Olympic Gymnasts were not old enough to compete, and their ages were faked.

    BlackiPod: Everyone has a love hate relationship with China. We hate their political system, and the human rights record, but love their cheap labor that gives us our electronics at a price we can afford.

  9. Profile photo of yofuzzy
    yofuzzy Male 13-17
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    February 8, 2009 at 9:48 am
    china cant do anything by the rules. the olympics, space, fireworks, etc...
  10. Profile photo of LazyMe484
    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    February 8, 2009 at 9:52 am
    Ok, so the video convinced me. So what? We`ve already been to space. Its not like they faked a mars mission... And aslo, we know that the Chinese like to fake stuff already, as yofuzzy says. Also, if the Chinese can`t get into space, yet they want to and have the money, why can`t we just tell them how its done, or better yet just sell them the technology. Its not hard, and we are in a global community, whats with all this competition?
  11. Profile photo of LazyMe484
    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    February 8, 2009 at 9:56 am
    Rick S, The `fake moon mission evidence` wasn`t evidence of anything. The difference here is that we know we went to the moon, since we planted a mirror there to bounce a laser off of, and we took back rocks.
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    cuchulainn Male 30-39
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    February 8, 2009 at 10:05 am
    I just checked, and I still don`t care
  13. Profile photo of butji
    butji Male 18-29
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    February 8, 2009 at 10:08 am
    who the fuzzberry cares?
  14. Profile photo of yofuzzy
    yofuzzy Male 13-17
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    February 8, 2009 at 10:13 am
    not you butji, cause this will be you in 10 years, just happy your new computer only took your whole savings account, but at least you could afford it eh?
    http://jameslogancourier.org/media/1/200...
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    krath Male 18-29
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    February 8, 2009 at 10:17 am
    The point of their fake launch was not to trick the world, but to trick their own people.
  16. Profile photo of Boredered
    Boredered Male 18-29
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    February 8, 2009 at 10:18 am
    wow, zero gravity allows for non interupted acceleration, pure fck face
  17. Profile photo of deaf_woman
    deaf_woman Male 30-39
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    February 8, 2009 at 10:24 am
    how ironic, seeing as how the actual word "china" is in fact Spanish for "fraud" or "false".
  18. Profile photo of yofuzzy
    yofuzzy Male 13-17
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    February 8, 2009 at 10:25 am
    no bordered the vaccume of space allows for uninterrupted acceleration

    or if there was another force acting on the bubbles then that statement would be true, but what pushed the bubbles?

  19. Profile photo of RwR
    RwR Male 18-29
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    February 8, 2009 at 10:30 am
    Make a video about what China didn`t fake, that would be amazing.
  20. Profile photo of LoofahBoy
    LoofahBoy Male 18-29
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    February 8, 2009 at 10:35 am
    At least this will give some more fuel for the fake-moon-landing conspiracists.
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    trashcan7 Male 13-17
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    February 8, 2009 at 10:36 am
    deaf_woman:
    "how ironic, seeing as how the actual word "china" is in fact Spanish for "fraud" or "false"."
    _______________________
    That`s not irony. That`s called a coincidence. Irony would be if "china" was the word meaning "truth" or something.
  22. Profile photo of trashcan7
    trashcan7 Male 13-17
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    February 8, 2009 at 10:38 am
    Just for the record, I think the fireworks weren`t that bad. That only faked a couple of the footprint-fireworks in order to prevent danger to the helicopter taking the picture.
  23. Profile photo of gandhi172
    gandhi172 Male 18-29
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    February 8, 2009 at 10:40 am
    Silly China. Hrmph.
  24. Profile photo of quaintness
    quaintness Male 13-17
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    February 8, 2009 at 10:42 am
    China, oh China, why can`t you be more professional with your hoaxes? Sloppy commies.
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    SpartanV_EX Male 18-29
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    February 8, 2009 at 11:12 am
    That bubble kind of looks fake to me... It`s moving WAY too fast...
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    caffeinehigh Female 18-29
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    February 8, 2009 at 11:18 am
    Well the music sure was dramatic...
  27. Profile photo of Pindragon
    Pindragon Male 18-29
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    February 8, 2009 at 11:24 am
    *sigh*

    Poor China...

    It is like the kid in high school that got bullied all his life... just trying to fit in with the older kids...

    Kind of sad if you think about it....

    And ignore all the mindless murders and such.

  28. Profile photo of danagamer
    danagamer Male 30-39
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    February 8, 2009 at 11:26 am
    The space walk & launch was not fake, it was well documented by this country (and others that are nervous about their satalite technology). However I would be VERY nervous in a space craft "made in China".
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    addler Male 13-17
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    February 8, 2009 at 11:27 am
    ohohoho china.... you and your crazy schemes for global respect
  30. Profile photo of luckyse7en
    luckyse7en Male 13-17
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    February 8, 2009 at 11:34 am
    It LOOKS fake anyways. =/
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    spazking Male 18-29
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    February 8, 2009 at 11:36 am
    spartan, they were blown away so fast by wave blowers

    and agreed pindragon

    someday china is gunna snap and shoot up the place

    real life: snap = mad about our debt, shoot up = nuke various small countries, the place = earth

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    jjohns04 Male 18-29
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    February 8, 2009 at 11:38 am
    LOL... I agree with what danagamer says... I`d be nervous also to be in a chinese made craft... it kinda looks like a coffee carafe. take off the handle of the carafe I pictured and they sorta look similar :).



  33. Profile photo of fancylad
    fancylad Male 30-39
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    February 8, 2009 at 11:40 am
    once again, Rick S makes the most sense.
  34. Profile photo of Fwapper
    Fwapper Male 13-17
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    February 8, 2009 at 11:52 am
    People going into space in both China the USA train in swimming pools - it`s just a good way to get used to moving in zero gravity. This video is the fake - it`s just showing training.
  35. Profile photo of ElDavo
    ElDavo Male 18-29
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    February 8, 2009 at 12:11 pm
    I didn`t know China made it the moon, so proving to me that they actually didn`t is rather pointless.
  36. Profile photo of snoopdawgg
    snoopdawgg Male 18-29
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    February 8, 2009 at 12:21 pm
    I am Chinese... and why am I not surprised?
  37. Profile photo of s0rd3dvis1on
    s0rd3dvis1on Male 18-29
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    February 8, 2009 at 12:37 pm
    this is bollocks dont believe it.
  38. Profile photo of Boredx12
    Boredx12 Female 13-17
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    February 8, 2009 at 12:38 pm
    Im not normally into conspiracy theories, but NO ONE HAS EVER BEEN TO THE DRATTED MOON. It`s scientifically impossible, there`s a huge radiaition layer around the Earth which would kill anyone daft enough to try and get through.

    I can see why the governments lied, but it really is getting a bit ridiculous by now.

  39. Profile photo of duckinfuh
    duckinfuh Male 18-29
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    February 8, 2009 at 12:50 pm
    Boredx12, i REALLY hope you are being sarcastic...
    you are right..? right???

    and as far as china`s spacewalk... meh. whether it was faked or not, they are still a little behind the power curve.

  40. Profile photo of opiebreath
    opiebreath Female 18-29
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    February 8, 2009 at 12:51 pm
    Well Bored, you must be right. Obviously you know more about it than any scientist.
  41. Profile photo of marronator
    marronator Male 18-29
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    February 8, 2009 at 1:11 pm
    "Im not normally into conspiracy theories, but NO ONE HAS EVER BEEN TO THE DRATTED MOON. It`s scientifically impossible, there`s a huge radiaition layer around the Earth which would kill anyone daft enough to try and get through."

    lol! So by this logic, no one would have ever been into space... XD

    On another note, it`s sad how China seems obligated to create these hoaxes. It is like they want to try to falsely inflate their own egos

  42. Profile photo of mst4k
    mst4k Male 18-29
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    February 8, 2009 at 1:26 pm
    yea to marronator....the layer of radiation is there but there is still a space where people can go and chill...so it would go like this...earth...little space where u can chill...radiation belt...moon....then gods universe.
  43. Profile photo of domisgood
    domisgood Male 18-29
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    February 8, 2009 at 1:38 pm
    bored...look at your avatar and read out that word. yeah.

    i feel sorry for China, trying to overcome years of technological advancements to surpass America and Russia as the worlds superpower, China always tries to cheat and everyone finds out

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    Guy6870 Male 13-17
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    February 8, 2009 at 1:39 pm
    "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errors and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.”
    -Teddy Roosevelt

    That is directed at you Bored

  45. Profile photo of Shisi
    Shisi Male 18-29
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    February 8, 2009 at 1:44 pm
    China is like that red headed step child who can`t seem to get anything right, but always tries so hard. =(
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    Shellie84 Female 18-29
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    February 8, 2009 at 2:03 pm
    "I didn`t know China made it the moon, so proving to me that they actually didn`t is rather pointless."

    same here... it made for interesting time killing though

  47. Profile photo of CoffeeDiiva
    CoffeeDiiva Female 40-49
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    February 8, 2009 at 2:13 pm
    That was interesting. Why did they even want to claim they went into space go or don`t doesn`t make a difference just don`t fake it sheesh.
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    AnwarNova Male 18-29
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    February 8, 2009 at 2:18 pm
    On one hand, if it was fake, they could have gotten away with it. Nasa would know if it was fake or not, but as a country we don`t have the balls to humiliate/shame one of our biggest trading partners and money lenders that such a momentous achievement of theirs is completely crap.

    On the other hand, I have a hard time that China`s giant scam was uncovered by some person on youtube.

  49. Profile photo of RandyTheFool
    RandyTheFool Male 18-29
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    February 8, 2009 at 2:31 pm
    My theory: The Chinese have been living in space for the last 50 years. All the "people" in China right now are really robots and this video was made to throw us off the real truth of the matter.
  50. Profile photo of Gasser
    Gasser Male 18-29
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    February 8, 2009 at 2:41 pm
    The Chinese government seems terrified of any sort of `failure` thus at the Olympics they broadcast a fake firework display, afraid that the live one wouldn`t be perfect. Could this not be similar?

    So they did actually go into space and do a space-walk. But the government didn`t trust that the footage would be good enough so had a prefabbed one handy?

  51. Profile photo of TKD_Master
    TKD_Master Male 18-29
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    February 8, 2009 at 2:43 pm
    not to mention the fake olympic everything.
  52. Profile photo of splat13
    splat13 Male 30-39
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    February 8, 2009 at 2:47 pm
    Is the fake a fake?
    http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badast...
  53. Profile photo of andystevens
    andystevens Male 18-29
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    February 8, 2009 at 3:00 pm
    China: We`re crapstasitc! (And we buy all their crap.)
  54. Profile photo of jondegi
    jondegi Female 18-29
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    February 8, 2009 at 3:05 pm
    LOL

    Randy just might be on to something.

  55. Profile photo of Quackor
    Quackor Male 18-29
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    February 8, 2009 at 3:25 pm
    yeah, that guy on youtube must be right, why else would he put his work on the trusted video community youtube, also the capital letters on fake really convinced me.

    the people who say this is fake are the same nutjobs who say the US never landed on the moon

  56. Profile photo of Habute
    Habute Male 18-29
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    February 8, 2009 at 3:37 pm
    Hmm "bubble" coming from the bottom of the space suit... Do you smell something!?! aww DUDE nasty.
  57. Profile photo of JimboH
    JimboH Male 30-39
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    February 8, 2009 at 3:54 pm
    Legit Video = Fake Spacewalk

    Legit Spacewalk = Fake Video

    If the makers of this video aren`t adding in effects and such, my feeble logic and reasoning skills call shenanigans on China.

  58. Profile photo of carolinads13
    carolinads13 Female 13-17
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    February 8, 2009 at 4:25 pm
    Maybe the video was supposed to be fake... I don`t really understand China`s philosophies, so I can`t say anything about it.
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    DVLDRVR666 Male 13-17
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    February 8, 2009 at 4:29 pm
    meh
  60. Profile photo of snottydyck
    snottydyck Male 40-49
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    February 8, 2009 at 4:58 pm
    the chinese cannot be trusted with anything!!! do not buy anything from china. sneaky,dishonest,ripoff artists is their national credo.
  61. Profile photo of habbazoot
    habbazoot
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    February 8, 2009 at 5:39 pm
    i didnt even know they said they did one

    im out of the loop

  62. Profile photo of Loxen
    Loxen Female 30-39
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    February 8, 2009 at 5:40 pm
    Hmm. You know... If this IS fake, then who cares... if its a point of national pride and makes the people of China happy/proud then Let them be happy, fake or not. The government will know the truth either way, and either they`re progressing nicely or they can deal with the fact that they`re liars... which is nothing new anyway.
  63. Profile photo of habbazoot
    habbazoot
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    February 8, 2009 at 5:43 pm
    and bored, you do know that in that trhere different radiation levels in certain areas, some extremly low and most extremely high?

    watched a video on that yesterday. no friday

  64. Profile photo of explody
    explody Female 13-17
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    February 8, 2009 at 5:48 pm
    I don`t think this video explains just how fake it is. Space, the moon, the sun, the planets, the whole universe is fake. Everything around you isn`t real, it`s all fake! And these so-called governments that feed you lies? They`re even fake! I`m fake, you`re fake, we`re all fake!

    (That was sarcasm, by the way. I personally find these kinds of videos annoying and unnecessary :D)

  65. Profile photo of SilverThread
    SilverThread Male 30-39
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    February 8, 2009 at 5:48 pm
    I prefer to believe it`s real if for no other reason than the possibility that it will light a fire under our space programs collective ass and get them moving on space exploration.
  66. Profile photo of tornadofdoom
    tornadofdoom Male 13-17
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    February 8, 2009 at 5:49 pm
    Explody:

    Red pill, or blue pill?

  67. Profile photo of trashcan7
    trashcan7 Male 13-17
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    February 8, 2009 at 6:13 pm
    I liked the music :)
  68. Profile photo of Lionhart2
    Lionhart2 Male 40-49
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    February 8, 2009 at 6:34 pm
    > SilverThread
    > possibility that it will light a fire under our space programs collective ass and get them moving on space exploration

    Forget it, space is dead and sci-fi is just fictional and always will be. In case you didn`t realise it, the last time anyone left orbit was 1972, just 3 years after the moon and 37 years ago. We went, we found space was empty cold and useless, and far too big to EVER go anywhere else, and abandoned it then turned our attention to satellites that make life here on Earth easier. That`s the cold harsh reality of space. There never will be another "space program" and things like missions to Mars are just to justify the kazillions spent on a giant white elephant.

  69. Profile photo of jskujins
    jskujins Male 40-49
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    February 8, 2009 at 6:41 pm
    All of the arguments in that video are bogus. The "bubbles" are random paint chips and crap that get knocked loose. You see that on american missions. The earth is in the same place because the camera is mounted on the spacecraft, which is in a stable orbit. The clouds aren`t moving fast - the spacecraft is flying over the clouds at high speed because it`s in orbit! The flag movement does not behave as if underwater, but in a vacuum, being moved around by the astronaut. It seems to keep its momentum when moved, as it would in a vacuum. This is an example of the ignorant misleading the ignorant.
  70. Profile photo of FlameOfUdun
    FlameOfUdun Male 18-29
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    February 8, 2009 at 6:47 pm
    I can`t stand these videos.
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    Red5TheFinn Male 13-17
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    February 8, 2009 at 6:50 pm
    What came off his helmet was clearly something other than a bubble, a piece of paint or fabric maybe.
  72. Profile photo of pat125
    pat125 Male 18-29
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    February 8, 2009 at 7:01 pm
    Kind of like how they faked a lot of the fireworks at the opening ceremony
  73. Profile photo of Pilanus
    Pilanus Male 18-29
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    February 8, 2009 at 7:17 pm
    The guy that made that video is probably now dead, or considered an Enemy of the state in China... It would probably be cheaper just to make the real damn things rather than fake it all the time...
  74. Profile photo of Aligirl964
    Aligirl964 Female 13-17
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    February 8, 2009 at 7:30 pm
    i feel a bad for the person who made this. I mean is his hobby , looking at old video`s like this for hours just so maybe he might see something that`s out of place so he can blow it way out of proportion and claim it was fake.
  75. Profile photo of wildde
    wildde Male 13-17
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    February 8, 2009 at 7:42 pm
    fabric moves up in space?
  76. Profile photo of TingoStarr
    TingoStarr Male 18-29
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    February 8, 2009 at 8:02 pm
    I think China doesn`t exist at all, is also a fake, the biggest of all
  77. Profile photo of splurbyburbl
    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    February 8, 2009 at 8:09 pm
    Kinda makes the rape of nanking worth it eh?

    I cannot claim that it really is fake or not... but you must admit, China has shown that they are mroe than wiling to fake damn near anything for a desired effect. I wouldn`t put it past them at all.

  78. Profile photo of PacoP42
    PacoP42 Male 13-17
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    February 8, 2009 at 8:43 pm
    you forgot to mention the olympics ceremony in the description. DAMN YOU CHINA, I THOUGHT IT WAS BEAUTIFUL, THAT CEREMONY.
  79. Profile photo of revdrdark
    revdrdark Male 40-49
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    February 8, 2009 at 9:59 pm
    Those look like fragments of foil, not "bubbles." also if they were bubbles there would be thousands of them. The lights are obviously the illumination from the camera. Teh reason they aren`t there from the other angle? Duh...the camera has moved. This guy probably thinks the discovery of the New World was a hoax by the Mayans.
  80. Profile photo of ChronicBored
    ChronicBored Male 18-29
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    February 8, 2009 at 10:52 pm
    I`m pretty sure Earth does not emit light. This is proof that his video IS A HOAX!
  81. Profile photo of alfietoon
    alfietoon Male 18-29
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    February 9, 2009 at 12:16 am
    "Those look like fragments of foil, not "bubbles." also if they were bubbles there would be thousands of them"
    in a vacuum things without energy such as inanimate objects do not gain speed so if it was foil it would stay at a constant speed without speeding up the bubbles quite obviously speed up with the pressure of the water now im not being a sceptic of chinas space explorations but this was a poor attempt
  82. Profile photo of deeplick
    deeplick Male 18-29
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    February 9, 2009 at 12:54 am
    revdrdark Space suits are made to not admit air like scuba tanks. Therefor there would not be tons of bubbles. What the bubbles are coming from are little pockets in the metal that had yet to be filled with water and them moving it around released the air or from other sources as such. Space suits DO NOT put out air like a scuba tank. So no, there would not have been a thousand of them.

    The video was fake, go watch any real American or Russian space walk and you will notice a huge differences between the real ones, and that laughable horrible fake one there.

  83. Profile photo of Phydeaux13
    Phydeaux13 Male 13-17
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    February 9, 2009 at 1:43 am
    Laughable. Way to go, China!

    *golfclap*

  84. Profile photo of esotera
    esotera Female 18-29
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    February 9, 2009 at 1:46 am
    Unbelievable.
  85. Profile photo of Vikstar
    Vikstar Female 18-29
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    February 9, 2009 at 1:55 am
    I don`t care whether or not it was fake, but that video was just so... bitter in tone. Meh, I prefer fake Chinese to angry whereeverhewasfroms.
  86. Profile photo of Owanie
    Owanie Male 18-29
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    February 9, 2009 at 3:52 am
    Yeah let`s all laugh at China. They`re totally growing and becoming the new superpower and America`s crumbling down. Let`s all think America`s progressive now cause they have a semi-black president. Let`s all believe they will be able to change everything. How many people would start bitching to me when I`d say that the moonlanding was faked? Let`s forget about that one, cause now we all have the China scapegoat. Heck we even blame them for things they can`t even help, like that guy that murdered those other people at the Olympics. I remember people saying "You stay classy, Beijing" on IAB. Yeah, you too America, with your police brutality and Santa-claus killers, school-shooters, moron presidents and an overall IQ of how much is it, 70? What about the cults, economic hitmen, and let`s not forget about the endless struggles and wars that made your country what it is today? You stay assh*les, Americans.
  87. Profile photo of rodrigorenzo
    rodrigorenzo Male 18-29
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    February 9, 2009 at 3:59 am
    Neither China or US went down on the dratn moon
  88. Profile photo of splurbyburbl
    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    February 9, 2009 at 5:50 am
    hey... OWANIE,

    You`re absolutely right, because "Europe" (as if that narrows down where the drat you actually are) is blameless. All of Europe has done everything right.

    No pooface, I will criticize whoever the drat I damn well please. You can like it, not like it, but either way, you`ll take it you soft, hippie, no-load, conspiracy theorist piece of poo.

  89. Profile photo of i-am-emo
    i-am-emo Female 70 & Over
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    February 9, 2009 at 5:52 am
    You just got told!
  90. Profile photo of Owanie
    Owanie Male 18-29
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    February 9, 2009 at 6:01 am
    Well splur I could start about every continent and country in the world and human failure. I`m no conspiracy theorist, and I only suggested that people would get angry at me if I`d tell them that the American moonlanding was fake... Europe certainly is blamable for a lot of things, haha. Belgium`s not a holy place. For instance, watch at Congo. Or how the flemish wage a verbal war with the southern part of Belgium purely because of linguistic differences, whereas countries like Canada never had any problems concerning that matter. My only point was that whatever your view is on China, it is based on phantoms of a land that surpasses your own in these times. It is based on phantoms because what you see is but a spectre of the truth, and only an interpretation. Next time you bitch about China, why don`t you look at how corrupt your own country is. Fine, talk about Europe all you want, I don`t care. We`re humans, that all that counts for me.
  91. Profile photo of Owanie
    Owanie Male 18-29
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    February 9, 2009 at 6:04 am
    By the way, you can say sh*t instead of poo you know. Thinking you`re from the southern US, it just makes you sound more of a moron.
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    Owanie Male 18-29
    240 posts
    February 9, 2009 at 6:05 am
    Well splur I could start about every continent and country in the world and human failure. I`m no conspiracy theorist, and I only suggested that people would get angry at me if I`d tell them that the American moonlanding was fake... Europe certainly is blamable for a lot of things, haha. Belgium`s not a holy place. For instance, watch at Congo. Or how the flemish wage a verbal war with the southern part of Belgium purely because of linguistic differences, whereas countries like Canada never had any problems concerning that matter. My only point was that whatever your view is on China, it is based on phantoms of a land that surpasses your own in these times. It is based on phantoms because what you see is but a spectre of the truth, and only an interpretation. Next time you bitch about China, why don`t you look at how corrupt your own country is. Fine, talk about Europe all you want, I don`t care. We`re humans, that all that counts for me.
  93. Profile photo of Rick_S
    Rick_S Male 40-49
    3282 posts
    February 9, 2009 at 7:19 am
    Owanie: First, why does your avatar say you`re 70 and over, if you`re really 16? Strange. Second, if you are only 16, you don`t have the education (although from your vocabulary, I would not hesitate to say you certainly have the intelligence) to possibly understand the world as a whole the way you think you do.

    The US is not perfect, by any stretch, but as you said yourself, all countries and continents have their issues. We certainly don`t have the history of human right violations that China does. That`s not to say we have no history of human rights violations. G-Bay is a perfect example.

    It`s not a matter, really, of who`s better, who`s worse, who lies more, or who fakes more. It`s all a matter of personal preference. I love it here. I`m willing to put up with our short comings (and we do have them). I can`t say good or bad things about your home, because I`ve never been there, and don`t know.

    Bottom line, we all have our good and our bad. Even me. Even you.

  94. Profile photo of Owanie
    Owanie Male 18-29
    240 posts
    February 9, 2009 at 7:28 am
    Rick S, it`s exactly my point that we all have our ups and downs. That`s what I mean with "we`re all human". My comment is but a critique to the western commentary on rising Chinese power. I think it is misplaced. I`m supposed to let it slip and let everybody express their "opinion" on the issue, while I can`t go out and say the exact same about America. I realize that I do not have the knowledge that is required to understand the world. I`m spiritual in a few meanings of the word, however. I know people from my surroundings, all older than me, from whom I get a lot of information on different subjects such as unemployment, for example. I see things from a lot of different perspectives. This does not mean that I do not like to base things on empiric knowledge. But I have my views on people, and have known my ups and downs.
  95. Profile photo of Owanie
    Owanie Male 18-29
    240 posts
    February 9, 2009 at 7:38 am
    I say I`m 70 & over for no other reason than lack of creativity, and a silly attempt to be "funny". When people look into my profile or my picture, they`ll obviously see that I`m not. Plus, it`s all relative. I`m interested in music and subjects a lot of people of my age wouldn`t bother looking into. I know a lot of our lives is defined through fear; fear of not knowing, fear of ourselves, fear of death, and in a way fear of life. It`s much easier to to be angry at people because they`re angry at you than to think about your mistakes and try to realize that those people for a reason. To say that I do not have education to understand the way I think I do is not justifiable; no education teaches you how the world works, and whatever it is that makes you think I think I know how the world works, you don`t know how I think the world works. I can only tell how I work and how many things that I see work, but it`s only a matter of perception. There is no truth. That`s undeniable
  96. Profile photo of Owanie
    Owanie Male 18-29
    240 posts
    February 9, 2009 at 7:40 am
    whoops, I meant: "that those people are angry at you for a reason".
  97. Profile photo of Owanie
    Owanie Male 18-29
    240 posts
    February 9, 2009 at 7:41 am
    and "understand the world I think I do". Damn, haha.
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    syke22 Male 18-29
    1136 posts
    February 9, 2009 at 7:57 am
    I didn`t even know China had a space walk/thing.
  99. Profile photo of Mani-Jac
    Mani-Jac Male 40-49
    805 posts
    February 9, 2009 at 8:01 am
    Off Topic

    Lionhart2:
    "There never will be another "space program" and things like missions to Mars are just to justify the kazillions spent on a giant white elephant."

    I hate to burst your bubble ;-) but NASA is defenitly having a space program, one is called ARES, to quote from their site:

    "Crew transportation to the International Space Station is planned to begin no later than 2014. The first lunar excursion is scheduled for the 2020 timeframe."

    Source

    It is obviously not as intens as the Apollo missions but their still working on it.

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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
    2798 posts
    February 9, 2009 at 8:45 am
    "By the way, you can say sh*t instead of poo you know. Thinking you`re from the southern US, it just makes you sound more of a moron."

    FYI:

    I see you are relatively new here, so let me clue you in. The mods have an automatic word check for profanity. It changes it automatically. At first you hate it and disagree with it until you start noticing how dumb Ebaumsworld is (because they allow anything). Then you get tired of having to type special characters like "Sh*t" and "F#CK" all the time. Instead, the people that have been around the while just tend to pick the language up. When I see "poo" I know what the person meant. The only time it can get confusing is when someone types "cock" (C*ck) because you may not necessarily know if they are talking about a man-sausage or a very dumb bird.

    Carry on!

  101. Profile photo of evanking
    evanking Male 18-29
    689 posts
    February 9, 2009 at 9:00 am
    FAKE

    i just blew your mind.

  102. Profile photo of Owanie
    Owanie Male 18-29
    240 posts
    February 9, 2009 at 9:01 am
    Very well. It`s a bad attempt at insulting me, that`s for YOUR information, nonetheless, smarty pants. And actually, I`ve been around this site for 5 years, I just never had an account until a few months ago.
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    evanking Male 18-29
    689 posts
    February 9, 2009 at 9:02 am
    also, i`m loling at owanie
  104. Profile photo of evanking
    evanking Male 18-29
    689 posts
    February 9, 2009 at 9:04 am
    "that`s for YOUR information, nonetheless, smarty pants."

    i think "smarty pants" is in the same ballpark as "poo"

    that`s all.

    and in the event owanie reads this and decides to turn his cannons towards me, don`t bother. i`m not here anymore.

  105. Profile photo of Rick_S
    Rick_S Male 40-49
    3282 posts
    February 9, 2009 at 9:05 am
    Owanie: I stand by two of my statements unconditionally. First, you are obviously an intelligent individual. You live, according to your profile, in Belgium. As I understand it, Dutch and French are the main languages there. ou, however, have more mastery of the English language than most people in the US.

    Second, at your age, there is no way you can have the education to completely understand the world and how it works. I`m not saying that you`re stupid, or incapable, or that you`re wrong or dismissible just because you`re 16.

    I`m saying that you haven`t been exposed to enough education, both classroom and real world, to know as much as your posts make me think you think you do. Heck, at 39, I don`t know that I have enough education, either.

    Unless, of course, you`re even smarter than I am giving you credit for, and you`re a college graduate already, in which case, I apologize.

    Oh, and as for my error: Firefox only does spelling, not grammar. :)

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    Rick_S Male 40-49
    3282 posts
    February 9, 2009 at 9:06 am
    Missed a stupid Y in my editing. That should have been "You, however..."
  107. Profile photo of Owanie
    Owanie Male 18-29
    240 posts
    February 9, 2009 at 9:23 am
    Hehe thanks. I realize I don`t know enough, one can only try to succeed in knowing enough so that he may face death while having the feeling that he has lived in his life. It`s hard not too live with the feeling you`re dying at times, though. As for the "Y", don`t mind, I make the dumbest mistakes when I`m typing haha.
  108. Profile photo of jskujins
    jskujins Male 40-49
    6 posts
    February 9, 2009 at 10:45 am
    "in a vacuum things without energy such as inanimate objects do not gain speed so if it was foil it would stay at a constant speed without speeding up the bubbles quite obviously speed up with the pressure of the water now im not being a sceptic of chinas space explorations but this was a poor attempt"

    The dislodged debris does not speed up. Look again. You are being manipulated by the power of suggestion to believe you see something you don`t.

  109. Profile photo of Vikstar
    Vikstar Female 18-29
    399 posts
    February 9, 2009 at 10:51 am
    I get what you`re saying, Owanie - every country has made errors, or has been out of order with things in the past and present, so why pick on China?

    Well, why pick on America? It`s usually America-bashing we see here, or the occasional pop at Europe. That`s just how things are. To defend one and not another is to be hypocritical, really.

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    fillemorte Female 18-29
    741 posts
    February 9, 2009 at 11:31 am
    Wow, how stupid.

    That was like a Chinese girl with implants

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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
    2798 posts
    February 9, 2009 at 12:05 pm
    Owanie,

    Your not going to be one of the few yet very annoying pricks on here that behaves as if they always have to respond to every single little comment... are you?

  112. Profile photo of Owanie
    Owanie Male 18-29
    240 posts
    February 9, 2009 at 12:06 pm
    Anything to make you happy, splur.
  113. Profile photo of Avalessa
    Avalessa Female 13-17
    491 posts
    February 9, 2009 at 1:03 pm
    The Earth was moving.
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    KoalaMeatPie Male 18-29
    2578 posts
    February 9, 2009 at 2:38 pm
    1- Not necessairly bubbles, falkes of paint, etc, it happens every outting.

    2- Earth`s "horrizon" if you will is "stationary" - what? like you want them to go closer or further from space? the prbit is claculated, and thrusters keep it there.

    3- The clouds are not moving that fast, the earth is rotating as the craft is orbitting, 16 sunsets in 24 hours, it happens. You can see the exact same thing in the next shot with an American Satilite orbitting earth, "the clouds are moving fast"

    BS video.

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    superdud3 Male 18-29
    277 posts
    February 9, 2009 at 3:48 pm
    totaly faked
  116. Profile photo of i-am-emo
    i-am-emo Female 70 & Over
    1264 posts
    February 9, 2009 at 5:40 pm
    "Well splur I could start about every continent and country in the world and human failure"

    Wait so, you`re saying that no one is perfect? Regardless of their descent? That, maybe, wherever you find crime, you`ll find humans?
    Holy Sh*t! You must be the embodiment of philosophical insight!

  117. Profile photo of i-am-emo
    i-am-emo Female 70 & Over
    1264 posts
    February 9, 2009 at 5:44 pm
    "nonetheless, smarty pants"

    Oh no you didn`t just call him Smarty Pants!

  118. Profile photo of Septemberex
    Septemberex Female 13-17
    646 posts
    February 9, 2009 at 6:53 pm
    "1- Not necessairly bubbles, falkes of paint, etc, it happens every outting.

    2- Earth`s "horrizon" if you will is "stationary" - what? like you want them to go closer or further from space? the prbit is claculated, and thrusters keep it there.

    3- The clouds are not moving that fast, the earth is rotating as the craft is orbitting, 16 sunsets in 24 hours, it happens. You can see the exact same thing in the next shot with an American Satilite orbitting earth, "the clouds are moving fast"

    BS video. "
    -----------------

    Maybe so, but not as BS as the Chinese.

  119. Profile photo of Groogle
    Groogle Male 30-39
    2172 posts
    February 9, 2009 at 7:20 pm
    I`m no expert but it was probably fake. Just like every other missions into space ever made by mankind.

    It just make sense when you think about it.

    Question: Why fake space exploration?

    Answer: Because you pay a lot of money for it and if that money is kept and the event is faked a lot of profit is made.

    I wouldn`t be surprised if those people could finance a whole secret society just with that cash.

    If you dont believe me then prove me wrong. Take a telescope and get a view of the international space station. I will wait.

  120. Profile photo of Groogle
    Groogle Male 30-39
    2172 posts
    February 9, 2009 at 7:25 pm
    This is what you should get.

    http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2004/12may_issjupiter.htm

    I dont know about you... with all the technology we got, all the progress we made... we still can`t find a tin can floating right next to our face. Low Earth Orbit... yeah... riiiiigghhht!

  121. Profile photo of Groogle
    Groogle Male 30-39
    2172 posts
    February 9, 2009 at 7:47 pm
    You can try as you might but you will never see a man wearing a space suit floating in space with your naked eye even if helped with a telescope.

    It`s really convenient that they show them to you on TV and now on the internet.

  122. Profile photo of ImDanny
    ImDanny Male 13-17
    123 posts
    February 9, 2009 at 9:30 pm
    Groogle, there was a fat, greasy slob of a kid in my school named Frankie Hitchcock. He believed in zombies, UFOs, and all sorts of implausible conspiracy theories. He also believed that multiple wars, moon landings and even the holocaust were faked. He was the joke of the school, and you remind me a lot of him.
  123. Profile photo of Mani-Jac
    Mani-Jac Male 40-49
    805 posts
    February 10, 2009 at 12:24 am
    Groogle:
    "I`m no expert but it was probably fake. Just like every other missions into space ever made by mankind."

    That might just be the understatement of the day, it is very clear to me that you are no expert, just a question, how do you think all those satelites came up there?

  124. Profile photo of Owanie
    Owanie Male 18-29
    240 posts
    February 10, 2009 at 1:27 am
    Hey, I-am-emo, your remark was pretty much irrelevant to the discussion. He meant that I only complained about the US, but my comment was just an example of how every society built by humans (and there obviously is no other kind defined through laws, currency, etc. or at least not on Earth that we know of that`s directed in the same way as with humans) undeniably has some kind of flaw -if not thousands of them- and will seize its chance to drill another country into the ground if it makes its own look better. So they`d better shut up about China (not that China doesn`t have any flaws at all). This is general knowledge for me. Plus, after the repetitive use of "we`re all humans and we have good sides and bad sides", you should know it`s only natural that when there`s crime, there`s humanity. I never said I had philosophical insight, if that`s what you wanna make out of it, go ahead.

    PS: as for the use of smarty-pants, think of how Ash in Army of Darkness said "fancy-pa

  125. Profile photo of Owanie
    Owanie Male 18-29
    240 posts
    February 10, 2009 at 1:29 am
    That last thingy is obviously "fancy-pants".
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    FxyRoxy777 Female 18-29
    652 posts
    February 10, 2009 at 6:21 am
    man the back and forth bickering is much more entertaining than the video.
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    FecesinVCR Male 18-29
    241 posts
    February 10, 2009 at 7:28 am
    Lol Groogle. "Take a telescope and get a view of the international space station. I will wait." I`ve seen the ISS a couple times. Its hard to catch a picture with a telescope because it is moving very fast. But, it happens all the effing time. Heres one
    Oh look, heres another!
    Heres one while it crosses infront of the sun, notice the shuttle, which is certainly full of astronauts.

    Groogle... You are terrifyingly stupid.

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    someguy83 Male 18-29
    119 posts
    February 12, 2009 at 9:48 am
    groogle....you`re a raving loon
  129. Profile photo of Youcantwin
    Youcantwin Male 18-29
    162 posts
    February 14, 2009 at 2:04 pm
    Random Subject Change:

    Who here likes Jolly Ranchers??

    (just so we can get away from the bickering like children)

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    WJZIV
    32 posts
    February 16, 2009 at 5:43 pm
    it depends what type of jolly rancher...watermelon is good, but grape SUCKS!
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    mikeyberman Male 18-29
    31 posts
    February 28, 2009 at 3:47 pm
    Groogle:
    "I`m no expert but it was probably fake. Just like every other missions into space ever made by mankind."

    Of course, how could I be so silly. That`d explain why my GPS device, satellite phone, and satellite TV don`t work.

    It`d also explain the moon rocks brought back from the majority of the moon missions. And the fact that companies like Virgin are actually planning commercial space flights (albeit very short ones). Buy yourself a ticket on one of these and go up yourself in a few years when they open - then tell us it`s fake.

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    malinschen Female 18-29
    444 posts
    March 24, 2009 at 6:06 am
    Spacebubbles! Let`s play!

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