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84 Responses to USA`s Final Collapse: Will History Repeat Itself?

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    zoneking Male 30-39
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    February 4, 2009 at 7:11 am
    Link: USA`s Final Collapse: Will History Repeat Itself? - Look at comparisons between USA and ancient Roman Empire. Can USA survive? How long before its fall? A year? 5? 10? 20?
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    Mo73 Male 30-39
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    February 4, 2009 at 7:19 am
    lol...please
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    isa_ragnor Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 7:22 am
    well looks like were boned. oh well time to drink the pain away
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    supermeep Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 7:34 am
    Im British, No problems here
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    LoofahBoy Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 7:46 am
    "Vote for Ron Paul or everyone will die!!!!111!!!1"
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    Backfat Male 30-39
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    February 4, 2009 at 7:56 am
    I keep looking for the answer to all of our problems at the bottom of a bottle of rum, but by the time I get to the bottom, I forget what I was looking for.
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    maxmcd Male 30-39
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    February 4, 2009 at 7:58 am
    The USA is a republic with a president and representatives elected by the people. Rome at that time was ruled by an emperor. Rome came to power in 509 BC, and lasted (Eastern Roman Empire = Empire of Byzantium until the Ottomans and Muslims took Constantinople in 1453. So by that logic, the US still has 1729 years left in various incarnations of itself.
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    vegascartman Male 30-39
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    February 4, 2009 at 7:58 am
    Pretty lame
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    FecesinVCR Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 7:59 am
    Maybe its about time we had another one of them thar revolutions...
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    Numenor5 Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 8:04 am
    "Rome came to power in 509 BC, and lasted (Eastern Roman Empire = Empire of Byzantium until the Ottomans and Muslims took Constantinople in 1453. So by that logic, the US still has 1729 years left in various incarnations of itself."

    Following that logic, Rome even lasted way longer as the "Holy Roman Empire" until 1806. But Byzantium was in fact an empire that held the title of being "Roman" (East-Roman actually) just as a name, but the structure of the Empire was very different actually.
    To less space in here to expand my thoughts... sorry bout that.

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    JJMUG Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 8:07 am
    Nice tin foil hat poster
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    bobdavenport Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 8:18 am
    all empires fail because of finacal problems casuing dessent within the country. generally after a war. Persia, Rome, the Spanish during the 16th century, Britian after WW1. They were the largest enduring empires and all stumbled because of inflation and costly wars which in turn leads to internal decay. Persia couldn`t manage such a vast terratory effectvly and was invaded, Roman currewncy became worthless and lack of land meant the legion was no longer a viable carrer. people were forced off their land to support the troops, thus a lack of ffod insured, Spain became so increadably wealthy due to their control of the carribean and the treasue fleets that it made gold worthless in europe (followed by the disarstorious Spanish amarda) and Britian failed after ww1 due to the cost of the war meaning thier colonial terrotories were able to demand inderpendence and recieve it. due to two costly wars, inflation, an underdevleoped social system, massive deficet, and the current finacial
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    bobdavenport Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 8:22 am
    collapse, means the USA can not maintain its self as an empire any longer. (and yes people it is n empire, just in a different way then others). interestly, the downturn of the stock market has lost no money whatsoever, it is simply what people are willing to pay for, its just a lot lower then it used to be, mainly because people are dealing with money that isn`t real. banks lend each other money so as to invest, meaning most banks are in debt to other banks, so if one goes belly up, some other bank has just lost a lot of money in a bad loan which they didn`t have in the first place.
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    maxmcd Male 30-39
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    February 4, 2009 at 8:25 am
    Numenor5, that`s why I said various incarnations of itself. The US constitution is a living document, with provisions allowing for its amendment. Also, with our judicial branch interpreting laws in such a way as to alter their intended meaning as they see fit changes have over our relatively short history, already occured. I`m sure it`s already vastly different from what was envisioned by the founding fathers. The US government is not static, just like everything that came before us. For example, look at France, England, and Spain. All expansionist empires at one time or another. While they`re no longer expansionist, they`re still France, England, and Spain. The form may have changed, but they still live on. In one form or another the US will be around for a long time.
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    bobdavenport Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 8:25 am
    maxmcd: Rome was founded as a colony, formed into a land ruled by a king, became an republic (with elected officals) before being turned into an empire. The US started off as colonies ruled by a king, before turning itself into a republic with elected officals. So how long before it becomes an empire with an emperor
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    bungled Male 30-39
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    February 4, 2009 at 8:26 am
    I thought Rome still existed.
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    Ticomeister Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 8:43 am
    this is stupid. Its like the "The world gonna end in

    nation will rise, and nation will fall. It has always been like that.
    In the end... who gives a flying crap?

    the last quote in video has some sense into it, but no matter how much you prepare, no matter how much `research` on wikipedia, no matter how many youtube videos you edit....

    You`re wasting the ONE life you have on this planet.

    Most of us will spend our lives worrying about the future. I intend to live it.

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    Mo73 Male 30-39
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    February 4, 2009 at 8:51 am
    "Im British, No problems here"
    You need to take a closer look
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    ElDavo Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 9:00 am
    @bob: It won`t have an emperor. The founding fathers studied history and put in a system of checks and balances to make sure that doesn`t happen.

    As for the video, it doesn`t account for one thing: We don`t have barbarians everywhere around us (just in Canada), so D.C. is not bound to be sacked by Visigoths any time soon. We aren`t funding constant wars now, we just happen to be in a long one at the time, deal with it. Things will get better like they always do.

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    tenty Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 9:18 am
    Romans failed because nearly all their armies were from countries they just invaded. . . . So just don`t hire people to drive your tanks from any middle eastern country or France. =)
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    pmarren Male 40-49
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    February 4, 2009 at 9:18 am
    I say we have to keep a close eye on the French. Those sneaky bastards will take over when we aren`t looking...
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    Dagaz20 Female 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 9:28 am
    this is a dumb post
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    OcelotUK Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 9:50 am
    "the US still has 1729 years left in various incarnations of itself."

    Bah! i really really hope you missed out a decimal point 1.729 years is just about bareable!

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    Grumpdock Male 13-17
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    February 4, 2009 at 9:59 am
    By jove! He`s got it! Untill seeing this magnifecent and informative video I would never have relised the great multitude of similarities between the USA and ancient rome!
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    bobdavenport Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 10:09 am
    @ElDavo, what the founding fathers didn`t foresee is that the political system is becoming heridatry. you have the kennadys, bush (2 were pres. and geb is a govenor i think, plus bush sn as stated that he would like geb to try for pres.), you had the rockerfellas in the early 1900 (money eqauls power) and also bill and hilary clinton. if it continues like this then chelsea clinton will be presedent in 20 years. keeping the power within a small minority is called an oligarchy which is just the lead up to a monarchy. although it can also be what occurs after one as well.
    as for not having barbarians around you, you are surrounded by enemies and those that hate the US. and considering it takes less then 24 hrs to fly round the world compared to several weeks to cross the oman empire, i would say your even more surrounded then acient rome was.
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    theRam Male 13-17
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    February 4, 2009 at 10:22 am
    bobdavenport, your posts make no sense and are spelled wrong
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    nakoninja Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 10:25 am
    umm bob the system that we have set up actually denies that possibility. we have set it up so that the president can and will change.
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    gorgack2000 Male 13-17
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    February 4, 2009 at 10:58 am
    The USA won`t fall like the Roman Empire. It`ll just be overshadowed by another, larger empire, making the US shrink down a few sizes. It`s happened before.

    Spain (I think)-> Britian -> America -> China?

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    jon_onyx Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 11:02 am
    anyone else see "cum" at 3:27 or just me?
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    almightybob1 Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 11:09 am
    "It grew until the empire united all lands from Spain to Syria, and from Scotland to Egypt"


    Wrong, the Romans never conquered Scotland. Instead they built Hadrian`s Wall to keep us out.

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    greengiant Male 13-17
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    February 4, 2009 at 11:30 am
    I can`t wait till the empire falls. Only then will America truly be free.
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    dystopia04 Female 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 11:42 am
    Interesting concept, but I doubt America will "fall". No doubt hard times are ahead, but I doubt we will "fall".
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    Cashcleaner Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 11:49 am
    History has shown us that all empires eventually fall or decline as civilizations. It`s simply a natural cycle of social evolution.

    I don`t think in the US that it will happen sometime soon, but it will happen in the future and a new empire will rise elsewhere to take its place and the cycle will continue.

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    madest Male 40-49
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    February 4, 2009 at 12:08 pm
    our empire will fall but it won`t be because of the economy, it will be from the super volcano called yellowstone.
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    sixclaws13 Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 12:13 pm
    Exciting. I can`t wait.
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    sixclaws13 Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 12:16 pm
    "Vote for Ron Paul or everyone will die!!!!111!!!1"

    I did. No one else listened.

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    PianoMan21 Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 12:52 pm
    I was willing to give this thing a shot right up until they compared Ron Paul with Cicero.
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    DHise Male 13-17
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    February 4, 2009 at 1:10 pm
    I`m curious to what will happen. You see, history does ALWAYS repeat itself but history has never seen such a thing like the USA. So it`s really curious.
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    krath Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 1:14 pm
    hmm, well if sh#t hits the fan in my lifetime I`m skipping over to Europe.
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    Groogle Male 30-39
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    February 4, 2009 at 1:22 pm
    A nice comparaison of the two era but a pointless presentation. Just because it looks the same doesn`t mean it is. There are some major difference between what has happened to the roman empire and what will happen to the american empire.

    It will be much worst then in your wildest nightmare.

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    Pilanus Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 1:33 pm
    So, Where to go now... Hmmm, i don`t want to be in a place that will follow the same trend in my lifetime... I Dont want to go somewhere too cold, I don`t want to go somewhere with too many bugs... I don`t want to go somewhere that would also collapse if america collapses...

    Hmm, New Zealand perhaps?

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    SPrinkZ Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 1:39 pm
    "Wrong, the Romans never conquered Scotland. Instead they built Hadrian`s Wall to keep us out."

    Fact. They were scared of them prolly. They considered them barbarians .

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    domisgood Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 1:50 pm
    errm thats like the worst analogy i have ever seen.
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    mttz Male 30-39
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    February 4, 2009 at 2:23 pm
    Unlike the Romans, the USA has not had a major civil war in which we changed from a republic to an empire. The USA is still a republic and power is divided up. In imperial Rome only one person had all the power, Cesar
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    Discomonkey Male 13-17
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    February 4, 2009 at 2:38 pm
    Question Time!

    Did the Romans not crumble because of incest and
    lead poisoning.

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    HarryBalszak Male 40-49
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    February 4, 2009 at 2:43 pm
    "Maybe its about time we had another one of them thar revolutions..."

    Second Amendment, baby!

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    Sociophobic Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 2:50 pm
    Revolution? I`m game, bitch. (How many government watchlists was I just put on?)
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    its_steve Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 2:59 pm
    @Sociophobic
    You only hit 17 of the watchlists.
    You didn`t use the word `bomb` and/or `president`
    ...dang
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    Standards Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 3:02 pm
    My class talked about this in Social Studies. Apparently what goes up must come down. I say nay!

    Then again, I also say we have only a few good years left.

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    screaminbean Male 13-17
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    February 4, 2009 at 3:03 pm
    and then came Barrak...
  51. Profile photo of Ajikan
    Ajikan Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 3:15 pm
    barrak is a puppet.
    Ron Paul was the only hope
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    dljudo92 Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 3:22 pm
    sociophobic... none
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    opiebreath Female 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 3:32 pm
    That`s like saying that Obama is going to be a bad president because he writes great speeches, just like Hitler did.

    These are the aesthetics of a society. They are NOT what we need to be putting effort into thinking about right now. How about the depression we`re in, eh?

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    Abacab2112 Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 3:42 pm
    Ticomeister
    Male, 18-29, Southern US
    27 Posts Wednesday, February 04, 2009 8:43:42 AM
    this is stupid. Its like the "The world gonna end in

    nation will rise, and nation will fall. It has always been like that.
    In the end... who gives a flying crap?

    the last quote in video has some sense into it, but no matter how much you prepare, no matter how much `research` on wikipedia, no matter how many youtube videos you edit....

    You`re wasting the ONE life you have on this planet.

    Most of us will spend our lives worrying about the future. I intend to live it.
    --------------
    This is one of the most interesting posts in these comments. I don`t even know if I agree with it, but it has thought put into it.

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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    February 4, 2009 at 4:03 pm
    I have not read all the posts, but I seem to recall many, many morons comparing Bush and his "regime" to Nazi`s... and our wars to the Holocaust... (As if it is at all possible to make anywhere near a comparison.)

    My point is, this is the same mentality here. There are loose similarities between just about anything you want to compare. Like water and oil... they`re both viscous and a liquid, but they don`t mix well.

    This is an old, old theory. I remember this argument when I was a kid. So it absolutely does not have anything to do with current events. Nor do current events necessarily help or hurt the supposed escalation of this theory.

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    Khast Male 30-39
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    February 4, 2009 at 4:32 pm
    "Unlike the Romans, the USA has not had a major civil war in which we changed from a republic to an empire. The USA is still a republic and power is divided up. In imperial Rome only one person had all the power, Cesar"

    Why have a civil war to change from a republic to an empire...we just willingly handed it to them...you know, in the name of security...

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    Ohnjaynb Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 5:07 pm
    cute, but quite a stretch...

    maybe the barbarians from the north will finally invade the U.S.

    I`m on to you Canada...

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    Metal_idol Female 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 6:11 pm
    Who cares? Seriously.

    The U.S probably won`t stop being a super-power within our lifetime and even if it did, that`s not a bad thing. Lots of old super-powers are still living it up with good living standards, education, etc. Take England for example.

    Besides, just because a country isn`t a super-power that doesn`t mean it`s a bad place or that it`s "failed" somehow.

    When the inevitable powershift does come however many years from now, I wonder who`ll take over? Hmn...

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    firefliet Female 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 6:14 pm
    I would have compared it to the Ottomans more than the Romans, but here it is.
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    jondegi Female 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 6:18 pm
    Oh, please, Ohnjaynb.

    We`re so polite that in the event of invading you, we would probably ask you if we were allowed to, first.

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    Ace2309 Male 13-17
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    February 4, 2009 at 7:56 pm
    idiots,U.S.A will never fall!rome got bashed to bits by enemys,and U.S.A is in no danger.
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    Ria25 Female 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 8:20 pm
    This is stupid on so many levels :/
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    bobdavenport Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 9:17 pm
    the only people that seem to be bashing the video seem to be american. denial much?
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    einstein2200 Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 9:37 pm
    its a ralization like the other comments on this article the roamans didnt know/beleave it.
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    sewermonkey Male 30-39
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    February 4, 2009 at 9:41 pm
    The U.S. will not fall. We will change. Probably not for the better. The only thing that will remain the same is the name. Live in fear and obey the government. They are here to help you. They know whats best for you. They really care about you. That is as long as you work half your life away to support them and kiss their ass.
    end rant
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    CapnCaveman Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 10:18 pm
    Einstein, please learn how to spell or stay offline. You`re representing the U.S. very poorly and it`s embarrassing. bobdavenport... question: U.S. vs. Australia in a war 1 on 1. Who wins? That`s right, Ausies go belly up like Steve Irwin in a kiddie pool filled with stingrays! The USA will never die, just turn tan and multiply because we`re the melting pot, baby!

    P.S. R.I.P. Crocodile Molester... R. I. P. we miss you, man.

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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    February 4, 2009 at 10:52 pm
    Rome had bread and circuses; we have food stamps and cable.
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    Feylynn Female 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 11:39 pm
    I was going to say that the video is a real stretch based on the beginning. But the end points were closer to Par and Bob had his stuff fairly straight.

    Anyone who thinks the `founding fathers` and their system would stop something like this is sorely mistaking and a tad naive.
    That does NOT mean i think it `will` happen.

    I just mean to say that all that is arguing is that "People won`t break the rule"
    No rule is greater then the rest of the rules, people tend to break them.

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    amaqdrinker Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 11:46 pm
    its pretty foolish to deny the cycle that is the rise and fall of civilization. america has some pretty obvious signs of a civilization in decline. but i agree with sewermonkey that its going to get a lot worse before america actually collapses. and anyone who doesn`t realize that if america collapses it is going to bring down a majority of the civilized world with it then they are completely oblivious.
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    DuckBoy87 Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 11:50 pm
    The only thing remotely close is the money losing value. And even so, it`s not that dramatic.

    Back in 2000, a 20 ounce soda cost about $1.10. Now it`s about $1.39. Inflation`s going to happen, that`s what happens in strong economies.

    Now I`m not saying that the US will never collapse, but I am saying that it won`t anytime in the near future.

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    freckled_won Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 11:57 pm
    Well before you go dissing the Aussies, know this. In every major American conflict, the Aussies are the only ones who have backed the US up every single time.
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    lesmith11 Female 18-29
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    February 5, 2009 at 5:27 am
    The Roman Empire was MAHOOSIVE and spanned continents, let alone countries! Of course it was going to become unmanageable!

    We`ve lasted alot longer than America, so you have a few more centuries left at least

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    quiknas Male 18-29
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    February 5, 2009 at 6:35 am
    who really knows?? yes, unchecked history tends to repeat itself, but that is why we rely on historians to identify trends, and a solid government to successfully implement measures to maintain order and prosperity. hopefully the economy starts to turn around fast!! i wonder what the true value of the dollar is, never mind the posted exchange rates...
  74. Profile photo of bobdavenport
    bobdavenport Male 18-29
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    February 5, 2009 at 9:44 am
    @Capncaveman. It depends who invades who. i will grant you that it is impossible for australia to invade the US at this point in time, but it would be eqaully as hard for the US to invade Australia. several reasons out basic troops are trained better then evern your marines, logistically trying to invade a country as arid, hilly, cold, hot and humid as Aus is almost impossible, not to mention if you succeded who would feed the world, as we supply the majority of raw materials, wool, and large amounts of fresh food and meat to the world. added to the fact that as we are part of the commonwealth, Britain and her domains are forced under law to help us. That is ofcourse unless we get banished or become a republic ourselves. and before you start to flame me for dissin` america and its troops, may i point out that we hold two very impressive records in war. 1st, the battle of besheba. we are the only people to have successfully capture the holy land. 2nd long tan. 100 men DEFEATED 3000.
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    fillemorte Female 18-29
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    February 5, 2009 at 10:15 am
    haha@ einstein

    "i are a graduate!"

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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    February 5, 2009 at 2:24 pm
    DuckBoy87, wonder why everyone is fat and lazy? 50 years ago, a regular Coke was 6 oz.
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    Quackor Male 18-29
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    February 5, 2009 at 5:50 pm
    i loved it how they tried the big brother approach there
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    HOLYCRAP1234 Male 13-17
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    February 5, 2009 at 7:04 pm
    Yeah, but there are no horse-mounted knights to come and beat us up.
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    djmofo117 Male 13-17
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    February 5, 2009 at 10:00 pm
    This is just dumb the US was only created a little over 200 years ago. How does a society collapse that fast? And for those of you saying that, "Ohhh China will pass us up." take into account that China`s government is way more F`d up than ours their economy is only booming because of the lack of control the government has put on the environmental standers. Also take into account that eventually China, like the US, will eventually have to come to terms with its pollution thus causing their production to decrease dramatically.
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    joofro Male 18-29
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    February 5, 2009 at 10:11 pm
    i think its fair to say that if america collapsed, then much of the world would collapse as well, or run rampant
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    Thepwnsher Male 13-17
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    February 6, 2009 at 8:17 pm
    They didn`t mention that when there`s was no roman empire(USA in this case) anywhere was dangerous.
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    BIHedin Male 13-17
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    February 6, 2009 at 10:05 pm
    Well i wouldn`t mind the US collapsing as long as it happens when i move back to europe if i do. if this happens then i sure will be.
  83. Profile photo of JJMUG
    JJMUG Male 18-29
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    February 7, 2009 at 12:30 pm
    1. We are not collapsing. What is going on now is a natural part of a capitalist economy.

    2. If we were to fall the rest of the world is going with us, why do you think the whole world is in recession at the same time.

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    carolinads13 Female 13-17
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    February 24, 2009 at 7:30 pm
    Well... England was the major world power until a couple decades ago, and that kinda died... So who says it won`t happen to the US?

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