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  1. Profile photo of fancylad
    fancylad Male 30-39
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    February 19, 2009 at 3:04 pm
    Link: NY Post Is In Hot Water Over This Comic - The artist says it`s commentary over the recent chimp mauling and the stimulus package, not Obama. What do you think?
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    thebuck9 Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 3:16 pm
    no words, just jaw dropping
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    SarahJ86 Female 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 3:16 pm
    Ah I heard about this. I doub`t the artist is intending it to be racist. But I think he and the editors were dumb to not realise it would be taken us such. Unless they knew and ignored it because its extra publicity!! They know better than any that all press is good press!
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    mike3027 Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 3:17 pm
    I do believe Obama SIGNED the bill. he didnt write it.
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    MissMage Female 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 3:17 pm
    Of course it`s commentary on Obama. How could it not be?
    In any case this is in poor taste all around.
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    danthew Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 3:18 pm
    lol so much wrong with this. and lol @ the "Beware of the dog" sign on the lamppost...
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    WeeToddDid Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 3:18 pm
    Haha, whoops!
    Reminds me of http://sockpoliticians.com/ a while back. Regardless of what he meant, it`s not a good idea. Surely this must have been checked beforehand?!

    3*

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    mike3027 Male 18-29
    52 posts
    February 19, 2009 at 3:19 pm
    I do believe Obama SIGNED the bill. he didnt write it.
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    Shellie84 Female 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 3:19 pm
    woah... i didnt see anything racist though... although i dont think i get it exactly
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    max5121 Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 3:19 pm
    why would someone draw a picture of obama being shot. cant you go to jail for that.
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    FlameOfUdun Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 3:19 pm
    Obama doesn`t right it. If you find this racist or offensive you are an idiot.
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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 3:20 pm
    that was so meant for obama.
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    kamietsu Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 3:21 pm
    mike3027, what do you believe obama did? i dont think i heard you right the first few times.
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    emzrok Female 13-17
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    February 19, 2009 at 3:22 pm
    i think, if the artist were trying to actually make a joke concerning both the stimulus package and the mauling, the joke runs too deep to make the cartoon not offensive.
  15. Profile photo of mike3027
    mike3027 Male 18-29
    52 posts
    February 19, 2009 at 3:22 pm
    Again, I think Delonas meant it as the Congressman are monkeying up the stimulus plan. Or something to that affect. And didnt people compare bush to a monkey? Thats a double standard.
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    mst4k Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 3:25 pm
    i think there saying that the stimulus plan was writen by the intelligence of a monkey....but i can see how this can be mislead..
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    mike3027 Male 18-29
    52 posts
    February 19, 2009 at 3:27 pm
    my bad kamietsu. it was an acciden. I love AOL
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    Cataclism0 Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 3:28 pm

    its racist!

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    Trizz Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 3:29 pm
    How that NOT be construed as shooting Obama as a monkey?! Everyone is bound see something strange in this picture. I saw the picture first before reading the description btw.
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    je_scream Female 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 3:30 pm
    Ooooh, I actually thought this was about that crazy chimpanzee--lol, if they`re calling Barack a monkey then OF COURSE it`s racist, but it`s still funny as hell. People need to laugh and stop crying about stupid stuff. Now, shut up before ya`ll wake Al Sharpton.
  21. Profile photo of mike3027
    mike3027 Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 3:32 pm
    Trizz, I think the author could have found a better way to make the monkey be Obama, if he wanted people to think it was supposed to be Obama. But I dont think he did.
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    CheeseMan1 Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 3:34 pm
    I don`t think it`s about Obama, this comic would make perfect sense if George Bush was in office.
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    peloos12 Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 3:34 pm
    I think one look at the comic gives you a pretty damn good idea at what the author was aiming for.

    "Cops killed a monkey recently. The Stimulus Bill was written by somebody with the intelligence of a monkey. 2+2. Ha ha."

    I really, REALLY can`t stand how people walk on egg shells around racist subjects.

    I think I hear more people unnecessarily jump down people`s throats for things that have the slightest hint of possibly being racist than people who walk around actually filled with hate and spewing hateful things from their mouths (ACTUAL racism).

    This is not what MLK worked so hard and ultimately died for 40 years ago. Certain African Americans should be ashamed of themselves for the way they handle racist matters today.

    /rant

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    Abacab2112 Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 3:36 pm
    To Cataclism:

    When I relate presidents to chimpanzees, Bush-43 is the first to come to mind. Not Obama.

    However, I have to laugh about the sentiment of the stimulus bill being written by a chimp. I have even harsher words to say of the bank bailouts *cough* fascist, cartel-strengthening piece of excrement from hell */end cough*

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    mike3027 Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 3:36 pm
    Good one cheese. Well said je_scream. Jesse JAckson will join this one I bet.
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    meowmeowmeow Male 13-17
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    February 19, 2009 at 3:41 pm
    sheesh, are people picking up a fight.
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    Lionhart2 Male 40-49
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    February 19, 2009 at 4:01 pm
    The artist is saying "the Bill is so stupid it was probably written by monkeys", and playing on the recent monkey-shooting incident. Is it racism? No. The monkey is NOT intended to be Obama, that is fairly obvious.
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    Crossy Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 4:08 pm
    you can see where he was trying to go but it still doesnt come across well.
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    WhenIsLunch Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 4:11 pm
    i can see how he related it kinda but he shud a known how people wud see it
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    Seak Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 4:13 pm
    I don`t see it being racist.
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    habbazoot
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    February 19, 2009 at 4:14 pm
    lionhart, youre right, but it kinda needed to explain it more

    because you can also say that the monkey is obama. and thinking in the rascist way, black people=monkeys who should be killed. or you can say that obama should be shot because the bill is so bad, or you can say what you said.

    i can see what he meant, but maybe some rascists or obama freaks so it different

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    habbazoot
    2132 posts
    February 19, 2009 at 4:15 pm
    one more thing. this comic looks like its probably worse than "rhymes with orange", which is probably one of the worst comics produced. this guy should be fired, and not for the content or controvesy it caused
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    panth753 Female 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 4:21 pm
    That made me lol, and no it`s not rasist.
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    skyblue_15 Female 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 4:22 pm
    I don`t think the artist was fully thinking when he made this comic. The first thing I saw was racist, then I got the joke. Baaaad call.
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    moefreak Female 18-29
    1963 posts
    February 19, 2009 at 4:27 pm
    My problem with this is that it`s not funny.
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    goaliejerry Male 30-39
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    February 19, 2009 at 4:30 pm
    Probably not meant to be rascist - but, in context, "monkey" is used as a racial slur against blacks in America, so it does have racial tones.

    Yes, I know that a monkey recently attacked a woman and was in the news, but still.

    No one I America can refer to Obama as a monkey and not be pegged as rascist, regardless of intentions.

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    maceizballin Male 13-17
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    February 19, 2009 at 4:34 pm
    this is not only in bad taste...but it`s also unfunny...
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    TalcumX Male 50-59
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    February 19, 2009 at 4:39 pm
    Nancy Pelosi wrote the bill, so this cartoon should be an affront to all monkeys.
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    dookiestix Male 40-49
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    February 19, 2009 at 4:44 pm
    It`s a stupid cartoon, and it`s not funny.

    What is it about rightwingers and their lack of humor?

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    GlooStikk Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 4:46 pm
    awww all of a sudden cartoonists can`t call the prez a monkey w/out being called racist. whatever will they do?
    that cartoon just fails anyway
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    airsofter1 Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 4:46 pm
    lol racism
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    hyeonkim0805 Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 4:47 pm
    Why do people relate black people with monkeys? Can somebody explain this to me because I`m totally baffled. What about white people, asian people, middle eastern? Why black people? Why o why?
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    Llamaz Male 13-17
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    February 19, 2009 at 4:50 pm
    Not very well thought out.
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    Biscuits Male 13-17
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    February 19, 2009 at 4:53 pm
    I think the reaction is funny as many people called george bush a chimp, and compared him to one, yet just because obama is black people took it as racist.
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    deltaumarcus Male 18-29
    1958 posts
    February 19, 2009 at 4:54 pm
    Um...I`m against Obama but this is racist as hell. I don`t see how this is about the chimp mauling with that caption. If it was about the chimp mauling, shouldn`t the caption have been something like "He was coming right for me!"
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    desie Female 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 4:54 pm
    Ok, this isn`t funny.
    But why get upset over it??
    When President Bush was in office there were soo many cartoons that depicted him as a monkey, or with the face of a monkey anyway.
    Why is it suddenly rascist because of Obama?
    Black people & monkeys... no relation there.
    It`s just stupid.
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    bulbasaur Female 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 5:01 pm
    The two subjects have nothing to do with one another. The artist made a poor decision in trying to relate them. I don`t see how he WOULDN`T expect accusations of racism.
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    shinsvaka Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 5:02 pm
    i dont know hyeonkim0805. but yea. its ridiculous what some people come up with, and what some people think is racist.
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    je_scream Female 18-29
    763 posts
    February 19, 2009 at 5:02 pm
    Gee, I mean, I was never the great mathematician but shooting NYPD cops + aiming at a black man depicted as a monkey, just kinda equals racist to me, but still I think people are going too crazy over this.
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    Fizzlez Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 5:02 pm
    "I think I hear more people unnecessarily jump down people`s throats for things that have the slightest hint of possibly being racist than people who walk around actually filled with hate and spewing hateful things from their mouths (ACTUAL racism"

    This man has it.

  51. Profile photo of ChronicBored
    ChronicBored Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 5:03 pm
    Even if it`s not meant to be racist, it`s still a bad choice by the author of the comic. How can he NOT expect that to go badly?
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    andystevens Male 18-29
    247 posts
    February 19, 2009 at 5:03 pm
    Um, did anyone see the story about some cops had to kill an "over-hyped" chimp because it went on a crazy rampage and tried to kill a woman?
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    tannerb924 Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 5:04 pm
    you guys are idiots
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    Lionhart2 Male 40-49
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    February 19, 2009 at 5:04 pm
    > andystevens
    > Um, did anyone see the story about some cops had to kill an "over-hyped" chimp because it went on a crazy rampage and tried to kill a woman?

    Um... did you bother reading any of the comments before asking that question?

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    astridhaze Female 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 5:05 pm
    "Why is it suddenly rascist because of Obama?
    Black people & monkeys... no relation there.
    It`s just stupid."

    Actually, there is a HUGE relation. Unfortunately, black people have been portrayed as similar to monkeys for a long time. Of course, they don`t teach that in history class...

    This cartoon is definitely racist, whether that was the intention or not. The artist really made a poor decision with this one...

  56. Profile photo of andystevens
    andystevens Male 18-29
    247 posts
    February 19, 2009 at 5:05 pm
    The chimp in the cartoon is the supposed stimulus bill... You people linking monkeys and blacks say more about yourselves than the cartoon does about its creator.
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    matsuri_aka Female 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 5:11 pm
    If I hadn`t heard it being referenced to Obama, I wouldn`t have thought it even the slightest bit racist.

    Monkeys have long been a joke as using type-writers to write poorly-made scripts, books, etc. And anyways Obama didn`t write the stimulus bill ALL by himself, right?

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    Aeladil Female 18-29
    518 posts
    February 19, 2009 at 5:15 pm
    Wasn`t G.W. pictured as a monkey several times; if not by the NYP then other newspapers satirizing him?

    I saw this on one of my favorite blogs and immediately thought of the chimp attack, not Obama.

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    addler Male 13-17
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    February 19, 2009 at 5:15 pm
    "Gee, I mean, I was never the great mathematician but shooting NYPD cops + aiming at a black man depicted as a monkey, just kinda equals racist to me, but still I think people are going too crazy over this

    its actually a monkey depicted as a monkey for the sake of equating it with the whole "monkeys at a typewriter" idea, unfortunately they overlooked the racist angle and caused a mess.

    you seeing black first, monkey second though is a tad bit disturbing

  60. Profile photo of sixclaws13
    sixclaws13 Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 5:16 pm
    Get over yourselves. Crying racism every chance you get is both pointless and f*cking annoying.
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    White_Wolfos Female 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 5:18 pm
    1.) I didn`t even get the real joke, and I still didn`t see it as rascism.

    2.) This reminds me of the time when I saw a political cartoon and I was like "Well, that`s not very funny." and then one of my friends made this really snappy, sarcastic remark about how political cartoons "aren`t supposed to be funny" in attempts to belittle my intelligence. `-`

    I think they should be funny. `-`

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    Jerm_Leather Male 18-29
    897 posts
    February 19, 2009 at 5:19 pm
    This whole `controversy` is utterly ridiculous. People just Love to find reasons to perpetuate racism. I say that it`s pretty obvious to Anyone With Half A Brain that this cartoon has Nothing to do with racism. Some people just need a reason to stir up the sheeple. Get a grip, people.
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    andystevens Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 5:21 pm
    @ Lionheart2 "Um... did you bother reading any of the comments before asking that question?"

    No I did not go back to page one. I usually read the most recent comments. I did not know that every page of IAB forums were required reading. Your comment however comes off as someone who is a Mod trying to say, "FIRST." I will try to fit more time in my schedule for the comments forums in the future. Please accept my appology.

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    Zerocyde Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 5:21 pm
    I don`t know the guy, he could have very easily meant it in a very racist way for all we know, and is just lying to cover it up, but his excuse does make full sense.

    He is saying that he doesn`t think too highly of the stimulus package (i.e. that it must have been written by an idiot\monkey) (ever heard the expression "so easy a monkey could do it?") and the comic depicts the event where that chimp was shot.

    But, like I said, I don`t know the guy, that could just be his cover for actual racism, lol.

  65. Profile photo of deltaumarcus
    deltaumarcus Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 5:22 pm
    Wolfos, they are only funny if you know the context of the cartoon. Now knowing the context of this cartoon, I see racism. Had I known about the rampaging chimp I might feel different
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    yes_finn Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 5:22 pm
    deltaumarcus, you fail at writing comics
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    AVAHMT Female 13-17
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    February 19, 2009 at 5:29 pm
    :P
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    astridhaze Female 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 5:29 pm
    "andystevens: The chimp in the cartoon is the supposed stimulus bill... You people linking monkeys and blacks say more about yourselves than the cartoon does about its creator."

    This makes no sense, though, because if they shoot the stimulus bill, your comment implies that the bill wrote itself.

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    Negative_One Male 30-39
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    February 19, 2009 at 5:29 pm
    This comic makes no sense anyways, why would the crazed ape have anything to do with the economic stimulus from the President?
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    ChronicJ Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 5:30 pm
    LOL andy! Lionheart for the fail! *ducks from the ban hammer* I think only mods can hurl insults.
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    LadyMorgue Female 30-39
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    February 19, 2009 at 5:39 pm
    Racism will never go away as long as people keep making a big deal about useless things like this.
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    sgtstumpy Male 30-39
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    February 19, 2009 at 5:39 pm
    Without question, this is a clearly racist cartoon that directly references Obama. The cartoonist, Newscorp, Rupert Murdock are all spineless cowards who will not stand behind thier own policies of bigotry and hate towards non-whites. FOX sanitizes the transcripts of shows where bigot hosts like Bill O`Reily say something patently false, clearly ignorant and offensive when they are called out by media watchdogs. Newscorp and all it`s subsidiaries are not journalistic in any way. They have no integrity and should be considered tabloid trash.
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    andystevens Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 5:39 pm
    @ astridhaze... Dear Sweet Jesus. The Crazy Chimp (from the Republicans` POV) is the bill. It was written and passed by the Democrats. The Cops are the Republicans who wanted to kill it. (p.s. I am glad Obama lives at 1600, and I am glad the bill passed)
  74. Profile photo of alice_x
    alice_x Female 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 5:41 pm
    oh dear me, racism will never go away if people jump all over poo like this claiming it`s racist....
    -.-
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    alice_x Female 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 5:42 pm
    haha morgue, i said the same thing as you xD
    i just read it and was like..huh..oh :D
  76. Profile photo of Baelzar
    Baelzar Male 40-49
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    February 19, 2009 at 5:43 pm
    They need to send the SECRET SERVICE to this guy`s house...just in case he`s a member of a hate group.
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    dutchboy93 Male 13-17
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    February 19, 2009 at 5:47 pm
    I don`t think it`s racist. I think the artist definitely does not have a high opinion of Obama, but just because you dislike Obama does not make you a racist. People who see this as racist are reading way too far into it.
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    i-am-emo Female 70 & Over
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    February 19, 2009 at 5:48 pm
    Wait so, its okay to call Bush an ape, but you cant call obama a monkey?
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    Lionhart2 Male 40-49
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    February 19, 2009 at 5:48 pm
    > andystevens

    You basically said "Duuuh, there was this chimp shot, its about that, don`t you guys know anything?" when the answer was already in the comments. IF you are going to comment not about the cartoon, but about the COMMENTERS, then you should read the comments they made first. As for hurling insults ChronicJ, anyone can do that as long as it doesn`t cross the line of `sustained personal attack`. I`ve only banned 6 people in my Mod career, 5 of them yesterday for calling black people in the brawl video `monkeys`.

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    ChronicJ Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 5:50 pm
    To those equating President Obama and African Americans in general to monkeys or chimps: What are you trying to say? Sounds to me like you need to look inside yourself and ask why you make that connection.
  81. Profile photo of bluethen
    bluethen Male 13-17
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    February 19, 2009 at 5:54 pm
    Offensive, but not racist.
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    IkeRay Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 5:56 pm
    we are having this same discussion at 2 other forums I participate on...its retarded to give it 2 looks.

    firstly, it says "WRITE" the bills, Obama didn`t write the bill, just sign. if it said, "SIGN" then you could START to question, but as others have pointed out...bush was called a monkey/ape almost his entire stint in office, plus previous presidents were referred to as monkeys, by calling it racist you are A) condoning racism, B) grasping for reasons to be upset, or C) an idiot.

    here`s the biggest question...if this cartoon was drawn by a black guy, is it still racist?

  83. Profile photo of LadyMorgue
    LadyMorgue Female 30-39
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    February 19, 2009 at 5:59 pm
    HaHa Alice is a smart cookie. :)
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    ChronicJ Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 6:03 pm
    andystevens need to read all the comments and post much faster if he is going to split up and consider his comments before posting. Lion, you are so off. But hey, it is just IAB. Everyone likes to goes for the jugular (guilty).
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    LTimeLurker Female 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 6:05 pm
    Not racist...

    Seems to me people are reading into the cartoon a bit much.

    I agree bluethen, but it did make me laugh a little.

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    Cedar_mc Female 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 6:06 pm
    Yeah, that`s racist.
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    peterboner Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 6:11 pm
    This cartoon is much to do about nothing, unless you do not follow U.S. politics and the news (not to say people outside of the USA should). LOL, Chronic, andy better speed it up or Lion will eat him alive. Jeez. IAB is getting more and more like Ebaums in the comments sections. The Alpha males are so.. hmm
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    Palahniuk92 Female 13-17
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    February 19, 2009 at 6:15 pm
    What I think the real problem is is that the comic is racially insensitive. The artist should have known that his comic could be viewed in different ways and should be aware of the influence he or she has.
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    IkeRay Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 6:17 pm
    we are having this same discussion at 2 other forums I participate on...its retarded to give it 2 looks.

    firstly, it says "WRITE" the bills, Obama didn`t write the bill, just sign. if it said, "SIGN" then you could START to question, but as others have pointed out...bush was called a monkey/ape almost his entire stint in office, plus previous presidents were referred to as monkeys, by calling it racist you are A) condoning racism, B) grasping for reasons to be upset, or C) an idiot.

    here`s the biggest question...if this cartoon was drawn by a black guy, is it still racist?

  90. Profile photo of peterboner
    peterboner Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 6:20 pm
    The cartoon is not racially insensitive! A drating monkey went berserk a few days ago and tries to kill a woman, Cops shot the crazed drated up dead. A right wing newspaper called the Stimulus Package crazy because they do not think it will save the economy.. so let`s kill it! For drats sake.
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    MoondustWolf Female 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 6:20 pm
    It`s actually not as bad as I thought it would be. Still, artist is an idiot if he thinks he`s fooling anyone.
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    opiebreath Female 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 6:48 pm
    What a dumb and unfunny cartoon to have a fuss over.
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    erikthevikin Male 30-39
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    February 19, 2009 at 6:56 pm
    Totally irresponsible!!
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    domisgood Male 18-29
    4868 posts
    February 19, 2009 at 7:02 pm
    haha everyone gets so worked up over drat all
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    Lockon Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2009 at 7:08 pm
    lol
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    ScottSerious Male 18-29
    5316 posts
    February 19, 2009 at 7:09 pm
    oh poo
  97. Profile photo of neveryours
    neveryours Female 13-17
    1269 posts
    February 19, 2009 at 7:17 pm
    ...do better things with your time
    then argue about poo
  98. Profile photo of Vanwa
    Vanwa Female 13-17
    357 posts
    February 19, 2009 at 7:18 pm
    I think they were commenting on.... the monkey? They aren`t saying black people are monkey`s geez.
  99. Profile photo of habbazoot
    habbazoot
    2132 posts
    February 19, 2009 at 8:11 pm
    for people who dont get the relation from black people to monkeys:

    a lot of rascist say black people are "animals" and that they come from the jungles in africa. guess what is similar to humans, and animal, and comes from the jungle in africa? monkeys!

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    Metal_idol Female 18-29
    53 posts
    February 19, 2009 at 8:34 pm
    As a Black person and someone studying media relations/communications, I think the artist really did mean this to pertain to the chimp mauling incident and *did not* intend for this to be racist. I would take it as racist if the chimp were wearing a suit and tie as that`s an automatic allusion to the President (or just plain cute depending on who you ask).

    It was just bad-timing and a bit of ignorance on his part not to use a little foresight to see how else this cartoon could`ve been taken (granted Obama was doing a lot of work attempting to stimulate the economy this week and the chimp mauling incident happened at the same time) as calling a Black person a "chimp" or "monkey" is an ethnic slur since many racists believe that Blacks are "less evolved".

    I didn`t find it funny because newspaper cartoons are NEVER funny except to people who wear monicles; I guess. Hopefully he learned a lesson from this experience but I`m sure he didn`t.LOL.

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    JimboH Male 30-39
    603 posts
    February 19, 2009 at 8:40 pm
    Well said, Metal_idol.
  102. Profile photo of bonsushi
    bonsushi Male 18-29
    204 posts
    February 19, 2009 at 8:50 pm
    it could be taken 3 ways in my opinion


    a) that the stimulus package was written using the mindset of a monkey (as in it`s poorly written )

    b) chimp-mauling incident

    c) i had one but i forgot it.

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    PopeBenedict Male 70 & Over
    506 posts
    February 19, 2009 at 9:06 pm
    I see there are now two forums related to this incident in the Post. Seriously Lord Jesus, my boss, please tell me that the human race is smarter than this, please. Or let the apocolypse begin. First let us destroy their xboxes, wiis and the internets so that they may become at least truly aware of their fate, please Lord, please.
  104. Profile photo of OldOllie
    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15844 posts
    February 19, 2009 at 9:07 pm
    In the first place, nobody believes Obama wrote the stimulus bill. It was written by congressional staffers who basically scoured their hard drives for every pork barrel spending bill they couldn`t get past for the last 28 years, and then pasted then all together into a trillion-dollar clusterphuk. So, if Obama didn`t write the bill, what`s his connection to this cartoon? If you want to know who the REAL racists are, look at the ones who are screaming the loudest about it. THEY are the ones who looked at a chimp and saw a black man.
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    admisaok Male 18-29
    516 posts
    February 19, 2009 at 9:15 pm
    i agree with Metal Idol, this most likely not meant to be racist but the guy is pretty dumb not to catch this
  106. Profile photo of elfwynrane
    elfwynrane Female 18-29
    11 posts
    February 19, 2009 at 10:00 pm
    OldOllie is right on. Anyone with a middle school education should know the president doesn`t write these bills, he passes or vetoes them. The writer of this cartoon combined current events and turned it into a joke. Nothing new about this. Al Sharpton needs to get a real job, that`s all I have to say about this BS.
  107. Profile photo of Crucible
    Crucible Male 18-29
    1817 posts
    February 19, 2009 at 10:08 pm
    I could see how this could be seen as racist.
    I know it`s not, but it probably shouldn`t have been printed in the first place
  108. Profile photo of Painter13
    Painter13 Male 40-49
    1370 posts
    February 19, 2009 at 10:12 pm
    All the hate and the rationalization of it on these boards is amazing. You guys make me laugh. Really, do any of you read the garbage you write and wonder if you are on the right course in life? I am not preaching..I am just saying....hatred no matter how small, eats away at the souls energy and limits the ability to reach true greatness.
  109. Profile photo of teddyboy11
    teddyboy11 Male 18-29
    101 posts
    February 19, 2009 at 10:19 pm
    Look at the cartoon. When you follow the logical progression in a joke or comic, you have to wonder why the correlation of monkey slaying and stimulus bill exists. The only connection I can see is that they are both contemporary events. Aside from that, why would the punch line of the joke have anything to do with economy, when looking at a dead monkey, and asking who will write the next vital government document? The answer is the artist knew that it was subversive and though his motives might not have been based in racism, he just made something that should not have been made.
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    clumsyhans Male 18-29
    145 posts
    February 19, 2009 at 10:21 pm
    I`ll just stick with Garfield.
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    Quebec1217 Male 18-29
    109 posts
    February 19, 2009 at 10:30 pm
    I think the joke was that only a monkey is dumb enough to write this bill, it wasn`t a racist joke or they would have never printed it. Also, like what was said before both are current events and there lies the obvious tie.

    Anyhow, I laughed upon reading it. Hell, a billion here and a billion here starts to add up.

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    TKD_Master Male 18-29
    4794 posts
    February 19, 2009 at 10:53 pm
    rofl. racist lmao.
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    Tonyjet Male 18-29
    3299 posts
    February 19, 2009 at 11:08 pm
    ny post got low low low low
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    Overmann Male 18-29
    2600 posts
    February 19, 2009 at 11:21 pm
    I`m not sure how this cartoon reflects solely on black people, if it reflected on anyone at all. We`re all primates, so it would be more accurate to consider the chimpanzee a `brother` as opposed to a black man.
  115. Profile photo of Evilcupcake
    Evilcupcake Male 30-39
    82 posts
    February 19, 2009 at 11:28 pm
    The fact that this cartoon offends people makes me happy, it means the first amendment is working!

    the first amendment guarantees your right to be offended, it does not guarantee your right to not be offended.

    I hope to hell the NY Post doesn`t apologize.

  116. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
    4548 posts
    February 19, 2009 at 11:53 pm
    Evilcupcake fails.

    The first amendment was supposed to protect people`s opinions from their government. The right to protest for example is freedom of speech.

    Cartoons like this are a side effect of freedom of speech. Like anal leakage.

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    bloostarfish Female 18-29
    326 posts
    February 20, 2009 at 12:47 am
    i believe it`s how we perceive it.. this cartoon reminds me of monkeys behind typewriters being paid with bananas to finish a novel (if I`m not mistaken it was in an I am Weasel episode).

    still - too fast, too soon. wrong choice of words.

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    DoucheBag01 Male 18-29
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    February 20, 2009 at 12:48 am
    The First Amendment prevents the Federal Government (and State/Local governments through the adoption of the 14th Amendment) from prosecuting or otherwise penalizing citizens for most types of speech. The type of speech represented in this cartoon is a form of political speech which is generally afforded the most (although not absolute) protection under the First Amendment. So there is no doubt that this cartoonist and this newspaper had the "right" to publish this cartoon. But the First Amendment protects neither the cartoonist nor the newspaper from retribution in the form of public protest, boycotts, public condemnation, etc. The Government cannot throw people in jail over this, but individual citizens and private groups have every right to condemn this cartoon and the publishers.
  119. Profile photo of Mo73
    Mo73 Male 30-39
    322 posts
    February 20, 2009 at 1:50 am
    lightin up
  120. Profile photo of Fojos
    Fojos Male 18-29
    159 posts
    February 20, 2009 at 3:09 am
    Only racists would relate this picture to racism.
  121. Profile photo of Fojos
    Fojos Male 18-29
    159 posts
    February 20, 2009 at 3:11 am
    "What I think the real problem is is that the comic is racially insensitive. "

    Racism right there.

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    djlazar Male 30-39
    185 posts
    February 20, 2009 at 3:46 am
    Ha ha, pussy americans always use the term "racist".
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    JacobTrue13 Male 18-29
    260 posts
    February 20, 2009 at 4:28 am
    yeah, that is pretty racist.
  124. Profile photo of i-am-emo
    i-am-emo Female 70 & Over
    1265 posts
    February 20, 2009 at 4:48 am
    If I could, for just a moment, quote Samuel L. Jackson: "I have had it with these mother f*cking snakes on this mother f*cking plane".
    Just thought I`d throw that in there.
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    dance4life Female 18-29
    209 posts
    February 20, 2009 at 5:19 am
    oldollie, you are my hero
  126. Profile photo of HornyPanda
    HornyPanda Male 18-29
    213 posts
    February 20, 2009 at 5:46 am
    .... Next!
  127. Profile photo of lmaonaise
    lmaonaise Male 13-17
    773 posts
    February 20, 2009 at 5:49 am
    i can see how people might think its racist but i dont think that it was meant to be conveyed like that...
  128. Profile photo of BoomBox
    BoomBox Male 13-17
    1232 posts
    February 20, 2009 at 5:53 am
    Umm I don`t know, I`m not really getting it...
  129. Profile photo of habbazoot
    habbazoot
    2132 posts
    February 20, 2009 at 6:13 am
    douchebag, you forgot to mention that those citizen groups have the right to assemble, under the first admendment


    see? it all takes care of itself...on turning people against each other

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    habbazoot
    2132 posts
    February 20, 2009 at 6:13 am
    but i like it, so its cool with me
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    FxyRoxy777 Female 18-29
    652 posts
    February 20, 2009 at 6:32 am
    haha and theres a sign that says beware of dog. where are the editors when you need them?
  132. Profile photo of gtcathey
    gtcathey Male 18-29
    3 posts
    February 20, 2009 at 8:16 am
    It isn`t friggin` racist at all. The current story in the USA now besides the stimulus bill, is a crazy chimp that has been in tv commercials who went crazy and ripped a womans face off putting her in critical condition. The cops had to shoot and kill the monkey. The race card is too overplayed...
  133. Profile photo of PeRsOnAaNiMa
    PeRsOnAaNiMa Male 18-29
    192 posts
    February 20, 2009 at 8:51 am
    haha, awesomeness. Good times...
  134. Profile photo of Poreka
    Poreka Female 13-17
    710 posts
    February 20, 2009 at 9:16 am
    Eh, I don`t get it.
  135. Profile photo of jsnider81
    jsnider81 Male 18-29
    9 posts
    February 20, 2009 at 9:37 am
    Let`s see...I found this website http://www.bushorchimp.com/ and it was started back in 2000. Why people have to play the race card, now that the President is half black is ridiculous.
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    Zombiemike Male 18-29
    553 posts
    February 20, 2009 at 11:15 am
    omg hahahahah that`s some funny poo.
  137. Profile photo of steve41high
    steve41high Male 18-29
    1153 posts
    February 20, 2009 at 11:47 am
    tbh. if the paper thought it was racist for one minute. they wouldn`t have published it
  138. Profile photo of carolinads13
    carolinads13 Female 13-17
    151 posts
    February 20, 2009 at 2:44 pm
    I don`t think they intended it to be racist, but people took it that way. If something can be taken the wrong way like that, then it shouldn`t be published.
  139. Profile photo of KX250F
    KX250F Male 13-17
    264 posts
    February 20, 2009 at 7:33 pm
    How is it racist?
  140. Profile photo of mylefto
    mylefto Male 18-29
    48 posts
    February 20, 2009 at 7:46 pm
    if it were refering to george bush would it still be racist ^.^

    and for the people that thought it was racist....probably think everything referring to "black" people as rasist things

  141. Profile photo of Palahniuk92
    Palahniuk92 Female 13-17
    9 posts
    February 20, 2009 at 9:50 pm
    "What I think the real problem is is that the comic is racially insensitive. "
    "Racism right there."

    Okay, how is that racist fojos? By racially insensitive I mean that the author should have considered ALL points of view before making his comic. "Monkey" is a well known racist slur. He should have considered that.

  142. Profile photo of lesmith11
    lesmith11 Female 18-29
    203 posts
    February 21, 2009 at 6:06 am
    Yeah and monkey also means....MONKEY! Jesus people stop being so sensitive
  143. Profile photo of dleifrag19
    dleifrag19 Female 18-29
    5 posts
    February 21, 2009 at 9:07 am
    they portrayed Bush as a monkey for how many years... 8? I don`t remember anyone protesting on his behalf...
  144. Profile photo of stot3
    stot3 Male 13-17
    248 posts
    February 21, 2009 at 9:42 am
    I`m sorry but there is no way that could be over the chimp maulings. This one is racist no matter how you look at it.
  145. Profile photo of Palahniuk92
    Palahniuk92 Female 13-17
    9 posts
    February 21, 2009 at 10:53 am
    Becasue, dleifrag19, they were insulting his intelligence, not calling him a deragatory name.
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    Slmmhmmr161 Male 18-29
    606 posts
    February 21, 2009 at 1:31 pm
    Its official; the NY times hates Obama.

    Remember that comic of him and his wife dressed like muslims in the white house?

  147. Profile photo of SherbertFizz
    SherbertFizz Female 18-29
    277 posts
    February 21, 2009 at 3:30 pm
    Becasue, dleifrag19, they were insulting his intelligence, not calling him a deragatory name.

    Okay lets see who is racist here? From your point of view. When Bush was called a monkey it was about his intelligence, when Obama is it`s being used as a racial slur. Does this not tell you something. You people create racism.

  148. Profile photo of lytesend
    lytesend Female 13-17
    194 posts
    February 22, 2009 at 5:48 pm
    Could possibly be comparing congress to a bunch of monkeys, but they deserve it if they didn`t realise how people would act over it.
  149. Profile photo of dang007
    dang007 Male 30-39
    596 posts
    February 23, 2009 at 2:04 pm
    Look at the TEXT. "Someone else to WRITE the stimulus bill." Obama did not write it so it is OBVIOUS that the cartoonist was talking about congress.
  150. Profile photo of dang007
    dang007 Male 30-39
    596 posts
    February 23, 2009 at 2:05 pm
    >>>>I don`t think they intended it to be racist, but people took it that way. If something can be taken the wrong way like that, then it shouldn`t be published.<<<

    I agree so by your own statement stop writing anything anywhere after all someone might take what you say the "wrong" way.

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    dang007 Male 30-39
    596 posts
    February 23, 2009 at 2:09 pm
    By the way what animal could a cartoonist portray the president as and not get any backlash?
  152. Profile photo of dang007
    dang007 Male 30-39
    596 posts
    February 23, 2009 at 2:11 pm
    >>>>What I think the real problem is is that the comic is racially insensitive. The artist should have known that his comic could be viewed in different ways and should be aware of the influence he or she has.<<<


    Good god give me a break.

  153. Profile photo of dang007
    dang007 Male 30-39
    596 posts
    February 23, 2009 at 2:14 pm
    >>>>you seeing black first, monkey second though is a tad bit disturbing<<<<


    No you see what you are conditioned to see first. If you spend all your time looking for racism that is what you will see, if you spend your time listen to Al S. you will likely assume his take on it is correct. Many many others looked at it read the text and took it to refer to a group of monkey pounding on typewriters, congress.

  154. Profile photo of Palahniuk92
    Palahniuk92 Female 13-17
    9 posts
    February 24, 2009 at 10:09 pm
    "I agree so by your own statement stop writing anything anywhere after all someone might take what you say the "wrong" way."

    Obama is the President. "Monkey" is a well known racial slur for someone of African descent. A picture of a monkey getting shot shortly after the stimulus bill takes place is printed in the NY Post. You don`t have to be a genius to connect them all together.

  155. Profile photo of rclear1
    rclear1 Male 18-29
    1 post
    February 25, 2009 at 6:13 pm
    The media portrayed Bush as a monkey for the past 8 years.
  156. Profile photo of SassyMkitty
    SassyMkitty Female 18-29
    52 posts
    February 26, 2009 at 11:00 pm
    That`s just disgusting and completely racist!

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