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I laughed when she said "camel jockey" though, that`s quite creative...
Actually airsofter, being born in America does guarantee you American citizenship. You can hate your government as much as you want, but it doesn`t change your nationality.Also, your sentences would make a little more sense without a period. after. every. few. words.
You say that, but that makes me think of the divisions within the UK and the nationalim of England, Scotland, Wales and N, Ireland. Especially the middle two. The individual countries can be very guilty of this amongst each other - Flaunting their nationalism, and judging or hating the other countries (read England)
England not so much because, really, we don`t have a sense of nationalism or Englishness!
I know that kind of twists your point, but it just came to my mind.
and woot we have the first muslim congressman here
I mean, I`m not saying that the UK is not guilty of racism, but we don`t flaunt our nationality as if it is a belief system, at least to nowhere near the same extent.
I hate Islam (I hate all religions), but I certainly don`t hate Muslims. As religious people often say, `Hate the sin, not the sinner`. I hate the theism, not the theist.
Yes, it is sad about the reactive ignorance. I know I am going back over there, I am a non-muslim, but if I ever have a chance to be a positive influence on their culture I will. (I know it can be hard when my job can seem non constructive to that end) But, one thing I am doing is changing the minds of some of my fellow ignorant brothers in arms.
Just the other day I educated a young Marine on why he was drated up for saying "all Muslims are teh enemy". That poo pissed me right the drat off.
LTTE makes 4 letters... Pretty well represented religion wise; with catholicism amongst its leaders.
There, owned in 3 letters. Again. And I`m sure we could keep naming more and more non-muslim extremist groups, but the point is clear: if you`re about to spill some more bullsh*t into the internet, consider having eBaum`s in your bookmarks and quickly reach for it in the same manner you would reach for a vomit bag.
Hey looky, you got owned in 3 letters, shortest debate ever. Also, up until 9/11 there were more South American terrorist incidents in the US than Arab/Muslim. Here`s some domestic terrorism to shove in any of your orifices you choose.
I`m so glad to see people who are willing to stand up and speak against something like that. I have a friend who`s muslim and I think I would just go off if someone behaved that way.
Wrong. 6 defended the clerk`s actions. 13 stood up for the woman. 22 (the majority) said nothing.
If you`re asking "Who are you most likely to be robbed by in the US?" it`s a white male. If you`re asking which demographic is most likely to commit a crime, it`s black males. If however you take social standing/income/education out of the equation, it becomes statistically insignificant which races commit more crimes.
You can point to whichever stat you want to try to show your point, but unless there is a lie involved, it is always possible for the reader to discern the truth from the numbers.
In fact trusting statistics at all is never a good idea.
We have a family friend who works for a Canadian university. He`s a statistitian - and his job is to make everything look perfect, regardless of reality. Basically the big wigs bring him a pile of data and tell him what they want it to say. He makes the numbers dance so they seem to say what they`re after - and apparently it`s not that hard to do.
the muslim`s part was replaced by a clan member, nazi & bush.
those folks were treated the same way.
gotta love abc news life in a vaccum.
all individuals should be treated fairly, even if your twisted brains are connected to those crossed eyes, following the automaton masses
respect starts at the individual level, you should stand up & be to be respectful to all humans & learn what that truly means
Its like saying all white Americans are the KKK.
I am lost for words. Maybe the most ignorant thing Ive read on I-A-B?
Just to put a dampner on the white face argument. You can`t trust crime statistics. They only cover who has been arrested or charged. What about the people who have not been arrested? Or people who are too scared to report a crime.. That and white people account for 70+% of the population of America so you would maybe expect white people to account for more crimes purely in terms of having a greater representation.
Im not trying to suggest anything, im not trying to suggest that black people do commit more crime.. im just pointing some things out.
DEY TUK UWR YEOBS!!?!
And I for one am relieved to see that the majority of people stood up for that woman. Looks like there`s still some hope for us yet...
Sadly Canada isn`t without it`s share of idiots either. It takes a long time to change people`s perceptions - but, God willing, this too shall pass.
they were probadly thinking of Jack D. Ripper.
So, let`s all hate the Japanese forever because of Pearl Harbor. Let`s all hate the Germans forever because of the Holocaust. Let`s hate all the whites for slavery.
Actually, no they don`t. Just because 9/11 happened does not mean that you should hate and discriminate against all the Muslims. Should every American be hated and verbally abused and kicked out of a store in a foreign country because of Bush? You shouldn`t treat anyone like garbage just because of their race/religion.
The majority (69.7 percent) of persons arrested in 2007 were white. Whites accounted for 58.9 and 67.9 percent of persons arrested for violent crimes and property crimes, respectively.
*Cough* Actually "2/3 of all Criminals are white." --Criminal Justice By Joel Samaha *Cough*
The problem is that in these cases the racism exists first, followed by the reaction. They don`t become racist because of 9/11.
Are you suggesting that if it turned out to be whites like Timothy McVeigh, that those same Americans would stop serving white customers? would they have "every right" to stop serving white customers?
It`s just like what the priest says in the movie Boondock Saints:"True evil is when good men do nothing."
Its just thinking that, "Its not my business, its not my battle, I`m going to stay out of it." Same thing happens in Elementary school before kids even know about this condition. One kid is taking a beating from 3 others, but all everyone does is watch until an authority figure comes by. In very broad terms, reliance on police and government has led people to question where to draw the line on vigilanteism.
No, they most certainly do NOT have a right to hate Muslims.
Yes, but have you ever attempted to view what they`re seeing? If they have been affected by 9/11, then they have every right to hate Muslims. Its human nature to think about revenge and self defense.
B. "You can`t judge everyone based on a minority, or else every single American should be judged according to the example`s set by Jack the Ripper"
Jack the Ripper wasn`t American, homie.
C. "What about when people on forums like this just make blanket statments about Americans? or they say " only in america" it just gets to me."
Stupidity runs both ways. Not everyone recognizes that.
I have friends of all races and religions, and I have gotten people who give me eyebrows when I say some of my best friends are Muslim. And it sickens me. Just because someone isn`t your religion/race, you would assume they were inferior to you, simply because they aren`t like you? I get so mad when things like these happen.
they say there are 2 americas...but there are 3
one racist and anti-science...the other progressive and science-oriented
the third is quiet and passive...doesn`t really stand out...and those are the ones who must come around or we`ll be drated as a counrty
"In Germany they first came for the Communists, and I didn`t speak up because I wasn`t a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I didn`t speak up because I wasn`t a Jew.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn`t speak up because I wasn`t a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn`t speak up because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me — and by that time no one was left to speak up.Martin Niemollor"
Stand up for what you believe in. I will.
Yet, the reaction of <i>most</i> of the people gave me hope. Maybe, just maybe, there is hope for people afterall.
And ... I dunno. I don`t think I`d be able to help it. I`d be scared. I`m aware of how prejudice has effected me, but I don`t know how to correct it.
i hate people like this. They need to be shot in the head because then the people would be a lot better without idiotic numbskulls who think all muslims are going to blow up the world.
Just because some Americans are prejudiced towards Muslims does not make it alright for Muslims to hate Americans. That is the exact thing this video is trying to depict! The fact that some Americans see all Muslims as terrorists due to 9/11 is wrong.
Just as no person in that store was right to support the clerk, no Muslim, European, or another American has should be able to deny a similar service to a redneck with a big ol` scruffy beard wearing a jacket embroidered with the Stars and Stripes.
Somehow, I find that hard to believe you`ve never witnessed a discriminatory act... either you live only with white people, or that world of yours sure is ideal.Personally, I`ve probably felt the most discrimination from Blacks. Ironic much?
I think a good first step would be for everyone to realize that some of our prejudices are hard-wired, like GosuPaul said. But its our upbringing and environment that allow us to overcome these shortcomings and interact with all people like rational beings.
I won`t lie that I`ll make premature accusations based on various traits, but its never more than that. I worked with Muslim girls at the dining commons and they were some of the best employees and people that I supervised, although I felt awkward when I didn`t know exactly what foods the were/were not allowed to prepare.
I`ve recognized my flaw and as such I am able to ignore that flaw. I find those that say the have no prejudices to be just about as dangerous as some racists.
I`m never witnessed an act ofdiscrimination in my life but I for one would stick up for that woman or any other person being discriminated against.
It`s sick that this still goes on. I can`t imagine being the actor behind the counter and getting encouragement from these lowlifes. It`d make me feel icky inside.
New score: 81, with a +20 bonus to help rescue you from your next faux pas.
Why is there such a big gap between rejection and tolerance?
I`ve spent >10 years in Dubai and >10 Years in the UK all in all, moving back and forth, and maybe 2 in the US.
I lived in a particularly bad places for a while. When I was at uni in Durham I was "only" attacked 2 times in 3 years. I didn`t feel particularly threatened there.
When I lived in a run down part of Newcastle... I`d usually be verbally abused one in three times I went out.
London wasn`t so bad.
When I lived in Scotland... that was where almost all my stories of violence come from.
In the US I didn`t have many problems either except in New York. Spent most of my Time in North Carolina, and had no serious problems other than odd looks.
People in Mass. were awesome, initiated conversations and would happily talk to me if I talked first. Not one askew glance.
But thing about any psychological effects it would have upon the people. If you associate a store with "the place with the horrible people", of course there would be a part of you that won`t want to go back.
its weird. I`ve lived in the middle east, and sure people may not like America, or some western countries, but I would never be worried about my sister walking around the city by herself. people are hospitable, trusting and respecting over there...something that`s been lost in the West I think..
Your current score is... 1.
Better rebound quick, before you fall below 0 and become forever loathed.
I think it`s very hard for non-Minorities to understand the scale of the prejudice and how it has a direct impact on your life. They see protections in place for minorities as being controlling and over the top.
You really need to live with the other perspective for a little while, but also understand what it does to people.
I`m a little bit... cold-hearted/unemotional I suppose, so I think when I explain the above I`ve remained immune to the natural inclinations alot of Muslims abroad have, to become reclusive and to sink into their own safe societies.
I think I realize more than most that it`s not the majority, but it`s difficult to think that matters when it becomes dangerous to live day to day. It`s very easy to develop your own prejudices in response.
btw muslim girl was hot, i would let her explode my rocket
And it`s kinda funny how the guy was clearly of Italian descent, clearly not American...and I know he`s an actor.And the blue outift she was wearing was SOOO COOL!This is disgusting...I hate this.
Post 9/11 I`ve had a friend lose many of his teeth as a result of being jumped by 8 guys. I`ve been attacked a further 6 times.
I personally have suffered no injuries.
In particular, it bothered me that as a white woman, I often felt that my girlfriend/fiance/wife was safer on her own than with me there despite living in a fairly dangerous neighborhood.
It infuriated me that in an area where you need an escort as a woman, I often felt like I was doing more harm than good being with her.
Dude, I used to have Muslim friends. There`s nothing wrong with most of them, but as with any group, there`s crazy`s.
You can`t judge everyone based on a minority, or else every single American should be judged according to the example`s set by Jack the Ripper, or Marilyn Manson.
Not everyone on planet earth has the time to sit down and `get to know` everyone else, which is why our brains can recognize patterns (such as clothing, or skin color) and act, according to our experiences and knowledge.
Regarding the post, I have immense respect for that man whose son had been overseas. It`s easy for someone who has no reason to be angry at a culture to `forgive` them (assuming there`s any forgiving to be done), but for someone who`s directly affected by it, it can be difficult -not- to harbor hatred and be prejudiced towards that culture group.
"it`s people like these that slow down my loss of faith in humanity"
Don`t be so God-damn cynical. Humans are humans, losing faith just means you`ve given up which is -not- okay. I know, you`re saying that things like this reassure you, but you shouldn`t be needing reassurance in the first place.