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Date: 02/02/09 06:27 PM

223 Responses to Christian Song Teaches Kids Not To Sin

  1. Profile photo of Kaileena
    Kaileena Female 13-17
    45 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 5:59 pm
    Link: Christian Song Teaches Kids Not To Sin - Yet the whole video just sort of leaves you feeling dirty.
  2. Profile photo of Tieagra
    Tieagra Female 18-29
    126 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 6:32 pm
    I couldn`t even watch the whole thing.
  3. Profile photo of noni-anna
    noni-anna Female 13-17
    63 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 6:34 pm
    D:
  4. Profile photo of icfire504
    icfire504 Male 13-17
    341 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 6:35 pm
    *twitch* *twitch*
  5. Profile photo of patthebaker
    patthebaker Male 18-29
    1768 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 6:35 pm
    i liked the part when kramer sang with the lion
  6. Profile photo of Samuelsoon
    Samuelsoon Male 18-29
    346 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 6:37 pm
    the eyes of those puppets will haunt me for a long time... a long long time
  7. Profile photo of davymid
    davymid Male 30-39
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    February 2, 2009 at 6:37 pm
    Ugh, I feel the need to shower. Almost as if I`m being made to feel guilty for things that I haven`t even done.

    Guilt, Shame and Fear sure are powerful weapons, aren`t they Religion-Bear?

  8. Profile photo of lytesend
    lytesend Female 13-17
    194 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 6:37 pm
    Talk about denial of latent homosexuality. Embrace yourelf, guy with a bad haircut and a puppet fetish!
  9. Profile photo of andystevens
    andystevens Male 18-29
    247 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 6:38 pm
    Ok, I am guessing buttsecks was going on behind the scenes.
  10. Profile photo of JJRed88
    JJRed88 Male 18-29
    163 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 6:44 pm
    *Twitch* Gay...puppet...porn *Twitch*
  11. Profile photo of mikhaillost
    mikhaillost Female 70 & Over
    538 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 6:45 pm
    Apparently acid is not a sin....
  12. Profile photo of Hylian4Hire
    Hylian4Hire Female 18-29
    329 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 6:50 pm
    Oh my god! The monkey can talk! Evolution! On a god-fearing TV show, tsk tsk.
  13. Profile photo of LazyMe484
    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
    10443 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 6:52 pm
    That was hilariously awful.
  14. Profile photo of splurbyburbl
    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
    2798 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 6:57 pm
    Is it wrong of me that I truly want to slowly slice open their throats and splash around in their blood? Perhaps set up a slip-n-slide and slide naked down the river of blood? Is this wrong?
  15. Profile photo of maxxb117
    maxxb117 Male 18-29
    387 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 7:01 pm
    Im agnostic thank you very much
  16. Profile photo of farquaadhnch
    farquaadhnch Male 18-29
    1225 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 7:02 pm
    Add a couple of life-sized blow up dolls and you have yourself a party splurbyburbl
  17. Profile photo of Siyanor
    Siyanor Male 18-29
    1185 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 7:03 pm
    Sounds like a good idea, splurby. I hate Christians. Though I don`t break laws, so I wouldn`t do it.
  18. Profile photo of Vindicate
    Vindicate Female 18-29
    511 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 7:07 pm
    Ugh... that video had pedophile written all over it, I swear... soooo damn creepy!
  19. Profile photo of _Perfection_
    _Perfection_ Male 18-29
    1789 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 7:20 pm
    "Sounds like a good idea, splurby. I hate Christians. Though I don`t break laws, so I wouldn`t do it."

    Well that`s cute, you`re ignorant.

  20. Profile photo of qwelch
    qwelch Female 18-29
    145 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 7:21 pm
    I`m relieved Christian music has, for the most part (with a couple of exceptions) gotten much, much better than this.
  21. Profile photo of Winter_ICE_0
    Winter_ICE_0 Male 13-17
    976 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 7:24 pm
    anyone else find the monkey ironic?
  22. Profile photo of Tikitac
    Tikitac Male 18-29
    115 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 7:25 pm
    MY BRAIN!! MY BRAIN!! It was so annoying I could come up with a better do not sin song!
  23. Profile photo of MonoBrow
    MonoBrow Male 18-29
    543 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 7:29 pm
    The music was good... but the lyrics suck... really hard.
  24. Profile photo of Pooptart19
    Pooptart19 Male 18-29
    2442 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 7:32 pm
    BibleMan is funnier.

    BREASTPLATE OF RIGHTEOUSNESS!

  25. Profile photo of andreweog
    andreweog Male 18-29
    33 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 7:34 pm
    LOOK AWAAAAAAAY!
  26. Profile photo of freddyferret
    freddyferret Male 40-49
    11742 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 7:39 pm
    Is there anyway we can create a Doom patch with these guys? I`d love to blast their heads off with a shotgun.
  27. Profile photo of Jasonbobdude
    Jasonbobdude Male 18-29
    1598 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 7:50 pm
    These guys cannot defeat the awesome power of BIBLEMAN!!
  28. Profile photo of coolbananas
    coolbananas Female 18-29
    859 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 7:50 pm
    omg that first dude was really creepy looking
  29. Profile photo of whtevr
    whtevr Female 40-49
    915 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 7:50 pm
    The song is stuck in my head now. :-/
  30. Profile photo of Siyanor
    Siyanor Male 18-29
    1185 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 7:52 pm
    And how exactly am I ignorant, Perfection?

    I know exactly what my opinion is, and I know exactly what the laws are. So I can`t possibly be ignorant about anything that I mentioned.

  31. Profile photo of Nidonemo
    Nidonemo Male 18-29
    9311 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 7:53 pm
    Oh...lord...why do they force it on the kids...
  32. Profile photo of yo-i-am-luke
    yo-i-am-luke Male 18-29
    626 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    Can`t... look away...

    **I admit I photoshoped it but I was only highlighting what was there!**

  33. Profile photo of Androgynous
    Androgynous Male 18-29
    758 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 7:56 pm
    So...when tempted with sin we should look away.
    ..So can we just look the other way when paying that hooker and it won`t count?
  34. Profile photo of Mo73
    Mo73 Male 30-39
    322 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 8:02 pm
    WTF did I just watch...
  35. Profile photo of sixclaws13
    sixclaws13 Male 18-29
    2314 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 8:02 pm
    "I hate Christians."

    Well we love you.

  36. Profile photo of LoofahBoy
    LoofahBoy Male 18-29
    3302 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 8:06 pm
    And they wonder why the Church is losing influence.
  37. Profile photo of Ace_Cosmo
    Ace_Cosmo Female 13-17
    165 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 8:08 pm
    This is kind of nostalgic, as I actually used to watch this show all the time. Looking back, though, I realize that all Christian kids programming sucks. It just... Sucks... D:
  38. Profile photo of PacoP42
    PacoP42 Male 13-17
    1064 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 8:09 pm
    translation: please, for your own sake, don`t look up porn.

    Great song. The only thing it was missing was one of those dots that bounces to the beat. I got dissapointed when i saw i couldn`t sing along to it...

  39. Profile photo of dilldog123
    dilldog123 Male 18-29
    1858 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 8:16 pm
    Paco, how could you suggest such a thing?
  40. Profile photo of vitaliy
    vitaliy Male 18-29
    1669 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 8:20 pm
    This makes me want to throw up.
  41. Profile photo of Ani187
    Ani187 Female 30-39
    4448 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 8:22 pm
    >.>
  42. Profile photo of CRA-Z_HEART
    CRA-Z_HEART Male 18-29
    138 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 8:39 pm
    This wouldve been better and less ew if the guys didnt look like pedofiles and the puppets werent the stuff of nightmares.
  43. Profile photo of _kiersten_
    _kiersten_ Female 18-29
    1684 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 8:43 pm
    look away, look away >.>

    What a creepy video XD whats up with the guy seriously smiling CONSTANTLY. 0.o

  44. Profile photo of Painter13
    Painter13 Male 40-49
    1370 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 8:45 pm
    You know whats crazier than this video? The fact that people believe that their children are sinful or ready to fall into the depths of evil. Man, what adults forgot about being a kid is everything.
  45. Profile photo of krath
    krath Male 18-29
    265 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 9:03 pm
    ahhh... Cult like Christians run!!! :-/
  46. Profile photo of Loxen
    Loxen Female 30-39
    1387 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 9:06 pm
    OMG talking animals? God didn`t create any talking animals! They`re totally playing god, sinners! Look away!
    *steals yer stuff while you`re looking away*
  47. Profile photo of vegascartman
    vegascartman Male 30-39
    735 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 9:07 pm
    Jesus loves you. The problem is, he doesn`t swallow!
  48. Profile photo of boredfjord
    boredfjord Male 13-17
    928 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 9:08 pm
    I enjoy the fact that Raffi, the gay children`s entertainer, is infinitely more musically sophisticated and entertaining to children. Suck on that, Christians. Although they do get Bach on their side... but maybe that was just because Bach had no choice. I guess only he knew.
  49. Profile photo of wakeofshadow
    wakeofshadow Female 13-17
    175 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 9:15 pm
    its..catchy and gets stuck and your head...
  50. Profile photo of i-am-emo
    i-am-emo Female 70 & Over
    1265 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 9:24 pm
    Moral of the story: Murder`s wrong but furrie sex is cool.
  51. Profile photo of _Perfection_
    _Perfection_ Male 18-29
    1789 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 9:45 pm
    "And how exactly am I ignorant, Perfection?
    I know exactly what my opinion is, and I know exactly what the laws are. So I can`t possibly be ignorant about anything that I mentioned."

    I consider anyone ignorant who issues a blanket statement hating a group of people.

  52. Profile photo of Martomator
    Martomator Male 13-17
    83 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 9:55 pm
    during this vid i closed down all my porn, and felt like a much better human.

    till i started fapping to the puppets.

  53. Profile photo of CinematicD
    CinematicD Female 18-29
    239 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 9:58 pm
    It does get stuck in your head!!! We must warn the others!
  54. Profile photo of partial
    partial Male 40-49
    5 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 10:00 pm
    Nice to see an "alternative" couple like these two boys put together such an uplifting video.
  55. Profile photo of frenchroast
    frenchroast Male 30-39
    446 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 10:02 pm
    The guy with overalls looks like he wants to sin with that furry cougar. I`m going to look away... look away...
  56. Profile photo of Leopardson
    Leopardson Male 18-29
    315 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 10:16 pm
    The only things that went through my head were:
    Are those guys creepy puppet screwers?
    I want to murder everybody who bought this.
  57. Profile photo of Lionhart2
    Lionhart2 Male 40-49
    8309 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 10:17 pm
    So who is Bubba, and why is his Big Banana`s Cream a crime? Is it Guy 1, the one cuddling the monkey with the low-cut blouse, or Guy 2, the one playing with a big pussy? And after the chorus, there`s the pussy standing right in front of Guy 2 as they rock back and forward together...

    And they wonder why people take the piss out of Christians and don`t take them seriously...

  58. Profile photo of dystopia04
    dystopia04 Female 18-29
    1082 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 10:21 pm
    that is sooooo creepy
  59. Profile photo of Insanity_cow
    Insanity_cow Female 18-29
    145 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 10:27 pm
    Not sinning hurts my soul...
  60. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 10:27 pm
    I have to admit, As a christian, This video had fail written all over it.

    But it beats Barney the dinosaur and Teletubbies by a country mile!

  61. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
    4548 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 10:30 pm
    Sigh.
    "I truly want to slowly slice open their throats and splash around in their blood? Perhaps set up a slip-n-slide and slide naked down the river of blood?"
    "I hate Christians."
    "I`d love to blast their heads off with a shotgun."

    See, when I compare certain people to the Klan, this is the kind of crap I`m talking about.

    Cue "No, *my* prejudices are rational because......" arguments.

    Have a look at this video. Then look through the comments, scroll down to Vagner`s comment: "I drat your mother just in her drating black ass!! with my big white dick!"

    See that? That`s you. Enjoy your life.

    Also, Davy:
    "Guilt, Shame and Fear sure are powerful weapons"
    Will you be adding that comment to the Mr. T video? I see more of all three in there.

    You saw those three in this video though? No

  62. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
    4548 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 10:32 pm
    *Nothing to do with your prejudices about Christianity to begin with? You didn`t go into this looking for those things? That was just naturally the first thing that jumped out at you?
  63. Profile photo of randaldowd
    randaldowd Male 18-29
    12 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 10:44 pm
    This is why people become pedophiles I`m sure of it, in fact Christians are the reason people rape kids. People are raised to be attracted to pure and innocent things and then they see this video, and next thing you know they`re skullf***ing kids in a Mexican basement somewhere.
  64. Profile photo of Zeofar
    Zeofar Male 13-17
    150 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 10:46 pm
    Beside being reminded of the naughty "children`s" shows that parody this kind of stuff, and Bubba`s big banana cream crime, there doesn`t seem to be anything particularly wrong with this video.
    And Barney still beats this by at least two miles, just by the pure retardation factor.
  65. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
    4548 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 10:54 pm
    Randal: I submit exhibit A.
    Barney, is singing to a bunch of kids.
    "I love you, you love me, we`re a happy family"

    Pedophilia and incest.

    Join us Next week on "Exaggerated Claims with Disproportionate Evidence" where we`ll be taking a look at "Coffee, Does it cause Cannibalism?"

  66. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 11:02 pm
    Btw, You can find many many extremely bad examples of secular children`s programming. Fomenting fear and anger over this video is the height of ignorance. Yes, It was bad, But less so than many others.

    Hating on Christians is stupid. As stupid as hating Jews, Hindus, Buddhists.... etc.

    Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. ~ Yoda

  67. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 11:05 pm
    randaldowd: <-- Do Not Feed The Troll
  68. Profile photo of Zerro
    Zerro Male 18-29
    628 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 11:05 pm
    Agree.
    VV
  69. Profile photo of i-am-emo
    i-am-emo Female 70 & Over
    1265 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 11:11 pm
    "Christians are the reason people rape kids"

    I`m not exactly in favour of the christian belief either but um... you dont think thats a bit extreme?

  70. Profile photo of opiebreath
    opiebreath Female 18-29
    15782 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 11:13 pm
    I think this has more to do with the 90`s and small time children`s programming then it has to do with Christianity...

    Also, who DOESN`T think that coffee causes cannibalism? Psh...

  71. Profile photo of s0rd3dvis1on
    s0rd3dvis1on Male 18-29
    2389 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 11:22 pm
    if i can`t assault the children s programming and their brainwashing that life will be good only if you`re a non sinner the i will have to target their awful repetitive lyrical scheme and crap slow music that`s written by a four year old. And that all these men singing seem to have hair that`s fuller than a black mans caddy for what purpose. Overalls gay painter bumsex.
    screw Yoda his wisdom is all just a one line cheeseville

  72. Profile photo of Godzukis_Dad
    Godzukis_Dad Male 30-39
    211 posts
    February 2, 2009 at 11:33 pm
    Now I get it! When the leaders of the catholic church saw all of the priests molesting children, they were tempted to sin, and looked away! That makes so much sense now!
  73. Profile photo of SpartanV_EX
    SpartanV_EX Male 18-29
    42 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 12:21 am
    Monday, February 2, 2009 11:33:01 PM
    Now I get it! When the leaders of the catholic church saw all of the priests molesting children, they were tempted to sin, and looked away! That makes so much sense now!


    ZZZIIINNNGGG!!!

  74. Profile photo of Razamire
    Razamire Female 18-29
    661 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 3:02 am
    how about,have a look,size the pro and cons and take responsibility for your action,ugh
  75. Profile photo of Dr_Sexy
    Dr_Sexy Male 30-39
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    February 3, 2009 at 3:24 am
    drat this teaching kids values, train them to eat the weak!
  76. Profile photo of pdjr
    pdjr Male 40-49
    298 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 4:26 am
    So now the church advocates friendship with talking animals.... hmm... "look away" when tempted to hug a muppet.
  77. Profile photo of Surfingninja
    Surfingninja Female 18-29
    744 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 4:27 am
    What`s really funny is I know exactly what show this is.

    It`s called "Quigley`s Village" and my mom used to rent the videos for my little sister.

    Terrible.

    Also: JESUS CHRIST IT`S A LION GET IN THE CAR!

  78. Profile photo of alice_x
    alice_x Female 18-29
    5143 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 4:33 am
    okay..okay..so...hang on a minute i just need to take this in...


    ....

    why was a muppet lion wearing a plaid shirt and singing "look away when tempted to sin"

    ... isn`t that a sin in itself?

  79. Profile photo of Morteyur
    Morteyur Male 18-29
    155 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 4:47 am
    AHHHHH MAKE IT STOP! MAKE IT STOP!!!

    *plays devildriver* oh thats better

    now to get back to my sinning ways....bit of slayer....bit swearing...bit of lusting...bit of lying...

    ahhh much better

  80. Profile photo of Morteyur
    Morteyur Male 18-29
    155 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 4:49 am
    oh and Baal...ive only been here a short time and ur already making urself out to be such a douche bag. quit starting debates and other stuff and dont be so serious all the time.

    dont take life serious, u wont get out alive...

  81. Profile photo of keith2
    keith2 Male 18-29
    2587 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 4:53 am
    People like that scare me more than being cellmates with a big black guy named ben.
  82. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    February 3, 2009 at 5:04 am
    My apologies.

    From now on I`ll limit my responses to symbols and netronyms.

    vid wuz cuuul luLz

  83. Profile photo of in2gooh
    in2gooh Female 18-29
    317 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 5:16 am
    creepy! they all look like molesters
  84. Profile photo of in2gooh
    in2gooh Female 18-29
    317 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 5:17 am
    look awayyy awayyy
  85. Profile photo of MisuriX
    MisuriX Male 18-29
    512 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 5:25 am
    this is why i aint a christian or a catholic priest.

    the word are wrong ffs.

    "look away, look away. and we will begin and jesus will help to do good"

    now aint that summit a catholic priest to a lil boy

  86. Profile photo of Dolegay
    Dolegay Male 18-29
    148 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 5:47 am
    what was with the creepy rat with rabies?
  87. Profile photo of Morteyur
    Morteyur Male 18-29
    155 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 6:13 am
    much better baal...but not what i was going at. im going for the less douche flame wars u seem to start, mind you im starting one now. but meh. you dont always have to correct people...unless your going for record for posts...in which case...find a old video and go nuts!
  88. Profile photo of alice_x
    alice_x Female 18-29
    5143 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 6:22 am
    Oh deary deary me...users of IAB
    ....
    a flamewar?..here? now?
    why? ...

    what does it fulfill hmm?

  89. Profile photo of liberalirony
    liberalirony Male 18-29
    196 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 6:39 am
    So this is what brainwashing feels like... Since when is it a good thing to tell kids they`re in a "battle to win" against sin. No wonder they end up so screwed up!
  90. Profile photo of SarahJ86
    SarahJ86 Female 18-29
    495 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 6:47 am
    Good ethics, scary brainwashing! There was always something quite worrying about the children`s tv imports we had back in the 1980s and 1990s! Leave the life coaching for the family.
  91. Profile photo of Rhasputin
    Rhasputin Female 18-29
    112 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 6:54 am
    From... "Bubba`s big banana cream crime"? UHM. Wtf was THAT part about? ):
  92. Profile photo of SlowestMe
    SlowestMe Male 18-29
    55 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 7:01 am
    Dexter look like what I call a pedophile.
  93. Profile photo of Dr_Sexy
    Dr_Sexy Male 30-39
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    February 3, 2009 at 7:24 am
    sin = win
  94. Profile photo of Ivar2112
    Ivar2112 Male 18-29
    271 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 7:32 am
    the first guy looks like a real life howdie-doodie...
  95. Profile photo of Chiburashka
    Chiburashka Male 18-29
    292 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 7:37 am
    Great. Now I get to have horrible nightmares about bug-eyed pseudomuppets.
  96. Profile photo of moefreak
    moefreak Female 18-29
    1963 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 7:37 am
    Why are puppets always so creepy.
  97. Profile photo of BlackDragonB
    BlackDragonB Male 18-29
    69 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 7:58 am
    "Sinning" is fun xD
    Being the atheist I am, I like this movie, catholics can look away, I`ll take the babe away from you :p
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    February 3, 2009 at 8:07 am

  99. Profile photo of Boredx12
    Boredx12 Female 13-17
    1655 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 8:16 am
    I hate to point this out but Jesus died almost 2000 years ago. I don`t think he`s coming back...

    And that guy looks sort of like a teddy bear... the sort of teddy bear you find abandoned in a bin because it`s too creepy to give to any kid :S

  100. Profile photo of Chibi_Ichigo
    Chibi_Ichigo Female 18-29
    986 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 8:34 am
    Hahaha Zombie Jesus will eat your brains so you will no longer sin :D
  101. Profile photo of Eldricht
    Eldricht Male 18-29
    295 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 8:42 am
    I found the dude at the beginning creepier than any of those puppets... and that other dude liked touching that lion puppets shoulder a leeetle too much.
  102. Profile photo of Overmann
    Overmann Male 18-29
    2600 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 8:47 am
    Anyone who proposes that humanity needs to believe in imaginary beings in order to be morally healthy, contributing individuals is f*cking nuts, and I`m not sorry. There`s nothing to be ashamed of, and no one alive who says there is has power to pass judgement on you after you are dead.
  103. Profile photo of sixclaws13
    sixclaws13 Male 18-29
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    February 3, 2009 at 8:54 am
    Atheists are slaves to themselves, and they don`t even know. And I am sorry, not for saying that, but that they can not see that. I say this as a former atheist/agnostic.

    Morteyur, I have never seen Baal leave a comment that wasn`t pertinent to the post. Just because you don`t grasp what he says doesn`t mean it`s not worth saying.

  104. Profile photo of bungled
    bungled Male 30-39
    271 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 8:57 am
    just look at the luxury that the pope surrounds himself with while nations of children go hungry. religion is hypocrisy. melt down that staff and crown and golden throne. murder, rape, torture all in the name of god, that is what organized religion is.
  105. Profile photo of Mjustin
    Mjustin Male 18-29
    335 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 9:14 am
    "Atheists are slaves to themselves"

    So it`s bad to own yourself, rather than letting others own you?

  106. Profile photo of QueenZira
    QueenZira Female 18-29
    2228 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 9:18 am
    So this is why all the Xian kiddies wander around with that blank stare, hiding behind a book for the rest of their lives...

    It`s the only safe thing to do once you have your neocortex excised.

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    SarahJ86 Female 18-29
    495 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 9:22 am
    Sixclaws - why are we slaves to ourselves then? This could be interesting..
  108. Profile photo of nodar
    nodar Male 18-29
    231 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 9:24 am
    "Atheists are slaves to themselves, and they don`t even know"

    Actually we do know. We want it that way. Being a slave to yourself means you`re in control. Instead of being a slave to a false belief. And because you where a "former agnostic" doesn`t mean you understand why people are atheist. I am a former christian but i still don`t understand 90% of whats going on in your minds.

  109. Profile photo of The-Sentinel
    The-Sentinel Male 18-29
    1150 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 9:30 am
    Wow how old is that video?
  110. Profile photo of tryit0nce
    tryit0nce Female 18-29
    101 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 9:36 am
    I`d still rather listen to this than Lady GaGa
  111. Profile photo of LittleManII
    LittleManII Male 13-17
    11 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 9:39 am
    Dude... When all for of them are singing together at the end, the guy on the right is forking the lion/cat-thing. Very disturbing...
  112. Profile photo of BBQ
    BBQ Male 18-29
    467 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 9:52 am

    That`s just awesome.. At least the music was good, err.. (I should just ditch the disclaimer, makes it much easier to express onself)
  113. Profile photo of ammit13fma
    ammit13fma Male 18-29
    276 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 10:06 am
    eww, major date rape face there....not to mention he is very creepy yuncle sterotype person
  114. Profile photo of Nidonemo
    Nidonemo Male 18-29
    9311 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 10:07 am
    Oh god why do we even allow this stuff through when we KNOW it will just create problems on the forums...guys there`s so much more important things to worry about than if someone on the internet thinks differently than you do...and to think everyone of a whole system is the same isn`t very nice or "right" to begin with. >_<;
  115. Profile photo of Overmann
    Overmann Male 18-29
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    February 3, 2009 at 10:26 am
    "Atheists are slaves to themselves, and they don`t even know."

    I`d love to hear this one.

  116. Profile photo of Blakcat71388
    Blakcat71388 Female 18-29
    876 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 10:45 am
    The one puppet reminded me of Salad Fingers.
  117. Profile photo of Dr_Sexy
    Dr_Sexy Male 30-39
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    February 3, 2009 at 10:45 am
    what would be so wrong about doing this over with naked chicks instead of puppets, this is where religion fails
  118. Profile photo of OptiSkiver
    OptiSkiver Male 18-29
    81 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 10:56 am
    By the gods! Cthulhu help them, they`re doing it wrong... =_=
  119. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
    4548 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 11:30 am
    BoredX:
    Indeed, 2000 years is a long time for a God that`s been around for 13.85 Billion years (Minimum).

    In human years that`s... 7 minutes and 35 seconds.

  120. Profile photo of LazyMe484
    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
    10443 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 11:36 am
    this guy just loves to disagree...
  121. Profile photo of RecycleElf
    RecycleElf Male 18-29
    3622 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 11:44 am
    I think I will go and convert now...

    jk, anyway, it was sort of catchy :P made me giggle abit! :D

    but fck yeah im gonna keep sinning

  122. Profile photo of Cheese84o6
    Cheese84o6 Male 13-17
    394 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 11:59 am
    Why would it make you feel dirty? Even an atheist understands that you will be tempted to do things that are unacceptable and you can`t give in. Like when someone is going slow in the left lane, there`s a lot of thing your tempted to do.
  123. Profile photo of acthrellis
    acthrellis Female 18-29
    98 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 12:26 pm
    my mom had this on tape when we were kids. ugh.
  124. Profile photo of h0ax_d3m0n
    h0ax_d3m0n Male 18-29
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    February 3, 2009 at 12:38 pm
    wow...your moms a freak.
  125. Profile photo of chicobartend
    chicobartend Male 18-29
    252 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 1:07 pm
    Wait... Was that a talking ape?! So I guess that video blows the hell out of creationism! Darwin FTW!!!
  126. Profile photo of Altaru
    Altaru Male 18-29
    3483 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 1:11 pm
    Nice catch, Chico.

    And... I`m still gonna sin. `Cause sinning`s fun.

  127. Profile photo of huck08
    huck08 Male 18-29
    426 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 1:35 pm
    i only got to :52 before i gouged my eyes out.
  128. Profile photo of quaintness
    quaintness Male 13-17
    1086 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 1:56 pm
    *looks away from flaming posts*

    Veggie tales is better!!! `Cause it`s like vegetables and Jesus and awesomeness, which is the trinity! *ahem*

    That is all.

  129. Profile photo of TrllVl90
    TrllVl90 Male 18-29
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    February 3, 2009 at 2:00 pm
    I thought the rapist aand pussy puppets were going to make out or something...
  130. Profile photo of luckyse7en
    luckyse7en Male 13-17
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    February 3, 2009 at 2:00 pm
    "i only got to :52 before i gouged my eyes out."

    I stopped earlier, the guy looked like some psycho pedo.

  131. Profile photo of raikun12
    raikun12 Male 18-29
    586 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 2:08 pm
    yes, that voice that tells you to give in is logic. and you should(n`t?) listen to it.

    YAY! religion mindnumbing society! WOOO!

  132. Profile photo of raikun12
    raikun12 Male 18-29
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    February 3, 2009 at 2:12 pm
    oh another thing, what the drat are we loking away from? i kept thinking it was some kind of sexual inuendo
  133. Profile photo of raikun12
    raikun12 Male 18-29
    586 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 2:13 pm
    lol @ I-a-b censoring me. (not cool)
  134. Profile photo of raikun12
    raikun12 Male 18-29
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    February 3, 2009 at 2:13 pm
    drat drat drat drat drat drat drat drat drat drat drat drat drat drat drat drat drat drat drat drat drat drat drat drat drat drat drat
  135. Profile photo of airsofter1
    airsofter1 Male 18-29
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    February 3, 2009 at 2:15 pm
    @raikun12 yes religion may just be a massive faggo_t but it is the only thing telling people to do good other than laws and so i say it stays. and no religion=no america and then the world is fu_cked since america is the worlds backbone. maybe a dash of israel too.
  136. Profile photo of catbarf
    catbarf Male 18-29
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    February 3, 2009 at 2:18 pm
    I find the idea of `looking away` from something that threatens you incredibly disturbing. More so given that it`s religion involved.

  137. Profile photo of raikun12
    raikun12 Male 18-29
    586 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 2:19 pm
    this such a drating lame post what the drat you draters need to learn how to post better drating meterial. (lol) ok i`ll shut up now :P
  138. Profile photo of catbarf
    catbarf Male 18-29
    1455 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 2:21 pm
    "yes religion may just be a massive faggo_t but it is the only thing telling people to do good other than laws and so i say it stays. and no religion=no america and then the world is fu_cked since america is the worlds backbone. maybe a dash of israel too."

    That`s retarded. America is a secular nation, and the major religion of the country has little impact on how we act.

    Furthermore, as an atheist I take pride in not stealing or murdering because it`s a dick move, not because an invisible friend tells me not to!

    Which is really the more stable basis for morality?

  139. Profile photo of raikun12
    raikun12 Male 18-29
    586 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 2:23 pm
    @airsofter1

    I totally agree, but olny for those who are frigtened by their insignificance in the universe that they need to belive in fairy tales.
    And its not like Atheists are spinless social degenerates. Frankly I think atheists respect human life more than theists because they understand that that is all that exists
    ( i don`t mean abortion btw, i don`t want to open that can of worms here, i mean religious killings... a.k.a crusades, suicide bombers...

  140. Profile photo of quaintness
    quaintness Male 13-17
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    February 3, 2009 at 2:25 pm
    What is considered polite changes. What is right, does not.
  141. Profile photo of quaintness
    quaintness Male 13-17
    1086 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 2:26 pm
    I didn`t mean what is considered right but rather what is right.
  142. Profile photo of chadders42
    chadders42 Male 13-17
    171 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 2:52 pm
    First thought: Monkey? Evolution? Irony?

    Second though: Lol, furries

  143. Profile photo of DaniDrkHrt
    DaniDrkHrt Female 18-29
    212 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 2:59 pm
    Throwing in my two cents...

    There is nothing wrong with having a religion that one believes in. It is the small percentage of radicals that get carried away that give any religion a bad name, and this is true for EVERY religion. I am agnostic myself, but I enjoy studying religions, all religions. I have found merit and some great values and views in every religion that everyone can take away and apply to their eveyday lives. I don`t believe there is such a thing as a wrong religion or a true religion. It`s all about faith and what feels right to you. Open your minds and accept that different views and opinions are what cause us to examine ourselves and better our lives.

    Ok, I`m done, hate me if you must, but I felt like giving my own little speech on the subject.

  144. Profile photo of airsofter1
    airsofter1 Male 18-29
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    February 3, 2009 at 3:30 pm
    @catbarf. no, america was fromed becuz people wanted freedom of religion. and taxes... wait. wtf obama?
  145. Profile photo of VagueReality
    VagueReality Female 18-29
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    February 3, 2009 at 3:34 pm
    I have a strange feeling this will stuck in my head later.

    I hope I`m wrong.

  146. Profile photo of panth753
    panth753 Female 18-29
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    February 3, 2009 at 3:38 pm
    WTF of the day.
  147. Profile photo of Dextrine
    Dextrine Male 18-29
    483 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 3:49 pm
    God is unnecessary. If we accept that the universe was started from the big bang, we then ask "what came before?" many people say "God". But, then, the only logical thing to ask is "what came before that?" this is where religions say "God has always been." Well, why not just save a step and say that the universe has always been and is slowly evolving?
  148. Profile photo of Siyanor
    Siyanor Male 18-29
    1185 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 4:02 pm
    I find it amusing that people can`t read, and yet call me an idiot. "I hate Christians." Where in that sentence do you see "all?" It is a statement of fact that I do hate Christians. There are Christians that I hate. That is all that I said. Nor did I insult Christianity in any way. I simply said I hate Christians. It`s my opinion, you can`t change it by calling me an idiot. That just makes me hate you more because I have proof of your stupidity. Yes, I hate stupid people too. Sue me. See if you get any money, or the judges just laugh in your face because you can`t read laws.
  149. Profile photo of sbhamster3
    sbhamster3 Female 70 & Over
    84 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 4:32 pm
    look away when tempted to sin.
  150. Profile photo of AtomicSkier9
    AtomicSkier9 Male 18-29
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    February 3, 2009 at 4:46 pm
    The puppets all looked cracked out....
  151. Profile photo of ChaoSSaucE
    ChaoSSaucE Male 18-29
    31 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 4:54 pm
    Instead of debating religion, we could make fun of this video. Just a thought. Like how that dude in the overalls is constantly all over that cat...thing.
  152. Profile photo of DavioMagnifi
    DavioMagnifi Male 13-17
    600 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 5:04 pm
    But when you say "I hate Christians" you categorize the people that you hate as Christians, so people assume you hate all Christians. If I were to say "I hate women, you would assume that I hate all women because that`s basically what I just said. So technically it`s not assuming it`s what you said.
  153. Profile photo of Llamaz
    Llamaz Male 13-17
    339 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 5:15 pm
    This is scary. Nightmare scary.
  154. Profile photo of catbarf
    catbarf Male 18-29
    1455 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 5:26 pm
    "no, america was fromed becuz people wanted freedom of religion. and taxes... wait. wtf obama?"

    And perhaps without the influence of religion which directly lengthened the Dark Ages, other countries would have colonized the US and we would be not only radically different, but two hundred years further into the future technologically.

    Your whole concept is ridiculous.

  155. Profile photo of Khast
    Khast Male 30-39
    184 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 5:46 pm
    I don`t know, I don`t often watch Christian videos, or listen to their music. It seems extremist in some ways. I do agree with the message, however I don`t believe one has to look to a greater entity to help....morals don`t always come from religion. To know what is right and what is wrong should be common sense.

    Do unto others, as you would have done unto you.

    This basically means, if you don`t like people stealing from you, then you don`t do it yourself. If you don`t like being beat/hit, don`t do it...ect.

    Oh, and the "golden rule" can be found in almost all religions. (Yes, even non-christians)

  156. Profile photo of jjohns04
    jjohns04 Male 18-29
    100 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 5:46 pm
    Take religion out of the whole video... this video gives me weird vibes such as The 2 guys are working for Father Nelson and are pedophiles or something.
  157. Profile photo of LTimeLurker
    LTimeLurker Female 18-29
    723 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 6:01 pm
    It started out a little strange...but I don`t get all the fuss.

  158. Profile photo of CharlieA
    CharlieA Male 18-29
    502 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 6:23 pm
    OK. Now I need to take a hot shower and then go hide in my special place. lol
  159. Profile photo of Abacab2112
    Abacab2112 Male 18-29
    433 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 7:01 pm
    As an agnostic that`s beginning to lean strongly towards Christianity, those creepy puppets at 1:19 don`t compel me to stop singing, convert, or show moral character.

    Then again, my (almost) (re-)conversion has been unconventional to say the least.

  160. Profile photo of einstein2200
    einstein2200 Male 18-29
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    February 3, 2009 at 7:09 pm
    as an agnostic i follow the golden rule every day and religon has no part in me filling that way it`s just right and fair.
  161. Profile photo of quiknas
    quiknas Male 18-29
    451 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 7:13 pm
    all i want to do is look away from this video
  162. Profile photo of qwelch
    qwelch Female 18-29
    145 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 7:23 pm
    "I find it amusing that people can`t read, and yet call me an idiot. "I hate Christians." Where in that sentence do you see "all?""

    Siyanor, if you don`t specify "some" then "all" is what is implied. If I was a cashier and said, "here`s your change", would you not immediately assume that it was all of the money that I owed you, and not just `some` of it?

    DavioMagnifi is absolutely correct.


  163. Profile photo of Siyanor
    Siyanor Male 18-29
    1185 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 8:26 pm
    Well, people should stop assuming falsities then. It`s not my fault you don`t understand me. If you don`t make any assumptions, you know you`re not wrong.
  164. Profile photo of Siyanor
    Siyanor Male 18-29
    1185 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 8:34 pm
    Oh, BTW, no, I would not assume the cashier gave me all my change, that`s why I check my change. Duh.

    And no, I would not assume you hate all women, I would assume there are women that you hate, which may or may not be all of them.

    The statement "I hate Christians", grammatically, means nothing more than there are Christians that I hate. I don`t see why anyone would assume "all" if it`s not there, nor why anyone would assume "some" if it`s not there. Grammatically, the sentence does not specify.

  165. Profile photo of Alanda
    Alanda Female 18-29
    295 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 9:35 pm
    that was over 2 minutes of demon puppet eyes burrowing into my soul.....
  166. Profile photo of VikingGuy
    VikingGuy Male 18-29
    2160 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 9:39 pm
    hmm...i always say opportunities are there to be taken, so i´ll just look away from this vid.
  167. Profile photo of Raccoon
    Raccoon Female 18-29
    340 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 10:29 pm
    Ok... that thoroughly traumatized me. I don`t think I`ll go back to Christianity, thanks. I`m much more fulfilled as a witch.

    Anyway: Qwelch, all Siyanor could have meant was that every person that he hates happens to be Christian; not that he hates every single christian. Just the ones he knows...

  168. Profile photo of french88
    french88 Female 18-29
    98 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 11:14 pm
    Inanimate objects are a lie........... just look what they did to those two guys(?).
  169. Profile photo of boogersunite
    boogersunite Male 13-17
    197 posts
    February 3, 2009 at 11:49 pm
    the beastality is stricly implied riter?
    cuz those guys and....
    dreams
    bad dreams
  170. Profile photo of mylefto
    mylefto Male 18-29
    48 posts
    February 4, 2009 at 12:02 am
    so from what i got from the song, its ok to do it as long as a look away whilst doing it=D

    it even says Jesus will help me do it.

    miss-interpreting crap is fun, isnt it religion=D

  171. Profile photo of Levon
    Levon Female 18-29
    103 posts
    February 4, 2009 at 12:20 am
    This is the gayest thing i have seen in a while.
    Geez.
  172. Profile photo of Doctor_House
    Doctor_House Female 18-29
    32 posts
    February 4, 2009 at 4:38 am
    That Monkey thing looks kinda like Micheal Jackson O.o
  173. Profile photo of Overmann
    Overmann Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 5:30 am
    "Atheists are slaves to themselves, and they don`t even know."

    I`d still love to hear this one. If you don`t elaborate, Sixclaws, I will assume you can`t and are just blowing steam. Going once... going twice...

  174. Profile photo of sixclaws13
    sixclaws13 Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 7:12 am
    I`ll elaborate tonight after work.
  175. Profile photo of QueenZira
    QueenZira Female 18-29
    2228 posts
    February 4, 2009 at 8:18 am
    Allow me to save you the trouble sixclaws.

    Psychological traits of Fundamentalism:
    Basic distrust of human beings; certainty that "uncontrolled" human beings will be bad and vicious.
    Distrust of their own judgment, or any other human being`s judgment.
    Ethical development at the reward and punishment stage;morality must be defined and enforced by an external authority.

  176. Profile photo of madduck
    madduck Female 50-59
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    February 4, 2009 at 12:53 pm
    I have one thing to say- good job Jesus loves him- everyone else thinks he`s a c***.
  177. Profile photo of Siyanor
    Siyanor Male 18-29
    1185 posts
    February 4, 2009 at 1:13 pm
    Raccoon, that isn`t what I meant either. I meant that someone being Christian gives me more incentive to hate that person. If someone always obeys laws, is very friendly, doesn`t discriminate, etc., and just happens to be Christian, I won`t hate that person. But a criminal that`s Christian is definitely going to be hated more than an atheist criminal.
  178. Profile photo of fnkychkn
    fnkychkn Female 40-49
    855 posts
    February 4, 2009 at 1:47 pm
    okay, two things:
    1. The first guy`s teeth scared me.
    2. The second guy looked like a cross between Eddie Munster and Shemp Howard from the three stooges.
    Actually, three things- I think these dudesare gay.
  179. Profile photo of Gluggr
    Gluggr Male 18-29
    422 posts
    February 4, 2009 at 3:05 pm
    Now compare that to good old pagan metal and ask yourself why Christianity isn`t really in anymore :D
  180. Profile photo of ninjaparrot
    ninjaparrot Female 13-17
    15 posts
    February 4, 2009 at 3:08 pm
    about that second guy....... who the hell wears overalls nowadays?!?!?!
  181. Profile photo of runroy
    runroy Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 4:23 pm
    Hmmm.... So this is why flamethrowers are legal.
  182. Profile photo of sixclaws13
    sixclaws13 Male 18-29
    2314 posts
    February 4, 2009 at 5:29 pm
    "just look at the luxury that the pope surrounds himself with while nations of children go hungry. religion is hypocrisy. melt down that staff and crown and golden throne. murder, rape, torture all in the name of god, that is what organized religion is."

    The pope is not religion. The Catholic Church is not religion. People will take advantage of any power that is available, religion is no exception.

  183. Profile photo of sixclaws13
    sixclaws13 Male 18-29
    2314 posts
    February 4, 2009 at 5:32 pm
    "@raikun12 yes religion may just be a massive faggo_t but it is the only thing telling people to do good other than laws and so i say it stays. and no religion=no america and then the world is fu_cked since america is the worlds backbone. maybe a dash of israel too."

    There is a lot more initiative to be moral and just than religion. It`s arguments like that that make us look bad.

  184. Profile photo of sixclaws13
    sixclaws13 Male 18-29
    2314 posts
    February 4, 2009 at 5:35 pm
    "I totally agree, but olny for those who are frigtened by their insignificance in the universe that they need to belive in fairy tales."

    Actually, I am significantly more in awe of/intimidated by my insignificance now that I know there is a God than when I thought this life was all there was.

    "Frankly I think atheists respect human life more than theists because they understand that that is all that exists"

    We regard life as the ultimate holy gift, a blessing beyond all others. You regard it as a freak accident.

  185. Profile photo of sixclaws13
    sixclaws13 Male 18-29
    2314 posts
    February 4, 2009 at 5:37 pm
    "There is nothing wrong with having a religion that one believes in. It is the small percentage of radicals that get carried away that give any religion a bad name, and this is true for EVERY religion. I am agnostic myself, but I enjoy studying religions, all religions. I have found merit and some great values and views in every religion that everyone can take away and apply to their eveyday lives."

    I believe that is because all the major religions and beliefs stem from the same basic truths.

  186. Profile photo of sixclaws13
    sixclaws13 Male 18-29
    2314 posts
    February 4, 2009 at 5:40 pm
    "God is unnecessary. If we accept that the universe was started from the big bang, we then ask "what came before?" many people say "God". But, then, the only logical thing to ask is "what came before that?" this is where religions say "God has always been." Well, why not just save a step and say that the universe has always been and is slowly evolving?"

    Everything in existence is unnecessary. That doesn`t mean it`s not there. And we can`t "save a step" because there is a God. Yes, in that respect it would be simpler to say there wasn`t. Religion is complicated because it is true. It`s easy to be simplistic when you don`t have to bother with facts.

  187. Profile photo of sixclaws13
    sixclaws13 Male 18-29
    2314 posts
    February 4, 2009 at 7:13 pm
    "Well, people should stop assuming falsities then. It`s not my fault you don`t understand me. If you don`t make any assumptions, you know you`re not wrong."

    The only thing we falsely assumed was that you knew the basics of grammar.

  188. Profile photo of sixclaws13
    sixclaws13 Male 18-29
    2314 posts
    February 4, 2009 at 7:24 pm
    "Psychological traits of Fundamentalism:
    Basic distrust of human beings; certainty that "uncontrolled" human beings will be bad and vicious.
    Distrust of their own judgment, or any other human being`s judgment.
    Ethical development at the reward and punishment stage;morality must be defined and enforced by an external authority."

    Completely wrong. There is nothing in religion dictating that you believe people behave a certain way. Believing that all people are bad or all are good is a personal opinion. Some believers think people are generally good, some hold the opposite view. Christianity says absolutely nothing about non-believers, or "uncontrolled", being bad or vicious. In fact it goes the other way, saying that every single person is created by God, and has some of His pure goodness inside of him, it just needs to be revived to shine through.

  189. Profile photo of sixclaws13
    sixclaws13 Male 18-29
    2314 posts
    February 4, 2009 at 7:27 pm
    "But a criminal that`s Christian is definitely going to be hated more than an atheist criminal."

    Agreed. Hypocrisy is disgusting.

  190. Profile photo of QueenZira
    QueenZira Female 18-29
    2228 posts
    February 4, 2009 at 7:56 pm
    My post detailed symptoms of a specific mental attitude, menticide or the intense desire to kill off the questioning/reasoning mind.
    Fundamentalism claims to have all the answers, so there should be no need for objective thought...period.
    The book has spoken,and is quite clear on what you should think, what you should say, and what you should do.
    Obeying mindless rules has taken the place of compassion for and identity with your fellow man. Any religion that takes away the mental autonomy of an individual, or that sanctifies hate ceases to be spiritual at all. It is totalitarianism masquerading as piety. That was my point.
  191. Profile photo of sixclaws13
    sixclaws13 Male 18-29
    2314 posts
    February 4, 2009 at 8:05 pm
    And finally...

    ""Atheists are slaves to themselves"

    So it`s bad to own yourself, rather than letting others own you"

    An inherent aspect of slavery is that the slave is unwilling. When a Christian gives himself to God, not the church but God, he does so of his own free will. Therefore he is not a slave to God, but a willing servant. The "it`s better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven" argument assumes that when we die, we remain the same way we are when we are alive, we just go to a new place. That`s not how it works, however. When you give yourself to God, you change, from the inside. You become "like Christ", as the Bible puts it. The Bible says that God "made" us, but he "begot" Jesus. You beget things like you, and make things different from you. A man begets a child, but makes a house. A bird begets an egg, which becomes a bird, but makes a nest. Jesus is like God, and begotten, we are unlike God, and made. (cont.

  192. Profile photo of sixclaws13
    sixclaws13 Male 18-29
    2314 posts
    February 4, 2009 at 8:22 pm
    (cont.) The gift that God offers us all, which is possible through the sacrifice of Christ, is the ability to turn ourselves from these shells of souls we are now, made, to what we are meant to be, full, complete, and begotten. You can start in this life, but it will never, due to our human nature, be completed until the next. When you do not acknowledge the presence of God and therefore the availability of this gift, you rob yourself of the most precious thing we could ever hope for. When you spend your time satisfying human desires, no matter how honourable they are, you can not see this thing that is offered, that can give more than any human desire fulfilled ever could. Personal gain, human love, fulfilling your goals; all of those seem great if you think this is the only life, but when put next to the real gift of God, they become infinitely obscure, even obstacles. (cont.)
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    sixclaws13 Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 8:30 pm
    (cont.) Human beings, be they Christian, atheist or otherwise, are stubborn by nature. We might like the idea of this other life, but the actuality of it is too much for us to handle. Even we Christians are apprehensive about it. We don`t at all like the idea of giving up our worldly goals and ambitions for it. We want Christ to take us in, but only certain parts. We want the godliness but we want to keep some of our human selves too. But it doesn`t work like that; it`s all or nothing. When you refuse the idea, when you opt to spend your life satisfying your needs and your goals, even if they are unselfish and honourable, and when you deny the offer itself, you rob yourself of unspeakable treasures, you stop yourself from ever growing to your full and intended potential, and you are enslaved to your desires, and to yourself.
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    Overmann Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 9:11 pm
    You realize of course that if the whole thing`s a sham then we`re not missing out on a damn thing, right?
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    sixclaws13 Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 9:17 pm
    Yes, but it`s not.
  196. Profile photo of QueenZira
    QueenZira Female 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 9:22 pm
    Bible Babble.

    Your conversion experience saved you from ambiguity, from fear of the unknown, fear of disorder. Fear of Death. Now you have an infallible manual to tell you what to do, to comfort you, to divide the world into black and white, good and bad, saved and unsaved. There can be no middle ground b/c there is no middle ground. You need never to think for yourself ever again, which is good as introspection is painful. And whenever creeping doubt comes back (as it inevitably does) there is always the book you can use to kill those thoughts.

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    sixclaws13 Male 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 9:35 pm
    Sorry, nope. My conversion saved me from nothing except myself, damnation and ignorance. If you think believers have no fears than you utterly do not understand the religious mind you seem to think you have completely psychoanalysed. I have more fears, and deeper ones, than I ever did before. I don`t turn to the Bible for the response to every situation or for pre-programmed thoughts, I turn to it be be closer with He who inspired it and to read of the man who died for us. You either can or will not see that, so you smugly assume you`ve got it all figured out. Truth is not deterred by doubt.

    On a side note, it`s bed time. God bless.

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    QueenZira Female 18-29
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    February 4, 2009 at 9:39 pm
    Yes. It did save you from yourself. Fundamentalism hates above all the individual consciousness and seeks to destroy it whenever it can. Nothing is more painful and confusing then the daily messiness and connection to mundane existence.
  199. Profile photo of Overmann
    Overmann Male 18-29
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    February 5, 2009 at 5:34 am
    "Yes, but it`s not."

    Righto!

    I`m often accused of being too narrow-minded and set in my ways, but in my defense I strenuously object (wink) that I am indeed susceptible to having my mind changed. There are conditions, of course, but to that I would argue my conditions are more reasonable than someone of opposing view. A faithful Christian would only abandon his view if humanity can definitively disprove God`s existence, which is currently impossible and might remain so. I`m asking for far less, namely some direct or trace evidence that is not tied to personal experience, appeals to emotion, appeals to morality, or phenomenon easily attributable to natural processes; something that suggests a deity or a being with deity-like abilities exists or did exist in some objective, verifiable capacity. If one feels this is asking too much, it is only because religion cannot meet me halfway.

  200. Profile photo of sixclaws13
    sixclaws13 Male 18-29
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    February 5, 2009 at 5:38 am
    "Yes. It did save you from yourself. Fundamentalism hates above all the individual consciousness and seeks to destroy it whenever it can. Nothing is more painful and confusing then the daily messiness and connection to mundane existence. "

    When you`re ready to give up your human traits of pride and conceit and willing to admit that there`s something more, something that you just can`t grasp, find someone to talk to. There`s a lot of incompetence out there that you have to look out for, but there`s also a lot of good people who would love to help you.

  201. Profile photo of sixclaws13
    sixclaws13 Male 18-29
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    February 5, 2009 at 6:01 am
    God has no obligation to prove his existence to us. If it was obvious, almost everyone would claim to love him, only for the rewards it offers. Faith, an integral part of Christianity, would become pointless.

    "some direct or trace evidence that is not tied to personal experience"

    Trust me, if you are blessed enough to experience it, it will be enough.

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    QueenZira Female 18-29
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    February 5, 2009 at 9:39 am
    I don`t need your help sixclaws. In case you haven`t noticed I am indeed spiritual and have a coherent philosophy. The whole point of my little exercise was to get you to see the difference between healthy spirituality and fundamentalism, to look into the abyss so to speak.
  203. Profile photo of Overmann
    Overmann Male 18-29
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    February 5, 2009 at 10:30 am
    "Trust me, if you are blessed enough to experience it, it will be enough."

    Delusions can be delightful little things, Sixclaws. I don`t dispute that. What I`m asking is that you provide something that suggests what you are experiencing is not a delusion. Until you do, you have no justification to claim that I am a slave to myself for not participating of your beliefs.

    "God has no obligation to prove his existence to us."

    Is this what you tell yourself to reconcile the lack of objective evidence of a god, that he`s hiding from us? I wasn`t requiring proof from God, I was requiring proof of God from you. I`m making the point that you cannot provide such proof and that no honestly rational basis exists for belief but rather that belief is culturally-determined.

  204. Profile photo of Cheese84o6
    Cheese84o6 Male 13-17
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    February 5, 2009 at 10:56 am
    Hey, Overmann, just out of curiosity, do you look at porn? Be honest.
  205. Profile photo of Cheese84o6
    Cheese84o6 Male 13-17
    394 posts
    February 5, 2009 at 11:09 am
    Your conversion experience saved you from ambiguity, from fear of the unknown, fear of disorder. Fear of Death. Now you have an infallible manual to tell you what to do, to comfort you, to divide the world into black and white, good and bad, saved and unsaved. There can be no middle ground b/c there is no middle ground. You need never to think for yourself ever again, which is good as introspection is painful. And whenever creeping doubt comes back (as it inevitably does) there is always the book you can use to kill those thoughts.

    You should read C.S. Louis, the bible by no means calls you stop thinking, any intellectual who doesn`t not have great respect for C.S. Louis is probably just biased because he was a brilliant man, along with hundreds of scientists that have contributed to where we are today.

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    Cheese84o6 Male 13-17
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    February 5, 2009 at 11:13 am
    (SP everything, I`m not a grammar Nazi but i like my posts to be readable.)

    You should read C.S. Louis, the bible by no means calls you to stop thinking, any intellectual who doesn`t have great respect for C.S. Louis is probably just biased because he was a brilliant man, along with hundreds of scientists that have contributed to where we are today.

  207. Profile photo of Cheese84o6
    Cheese84o6 Male 13-17
    394 posts
    February 5, 2009 at 11:15 am
    "Ugh, I feel the need to shower. Almost as if I`m being made to feel guilty for things that I haven`t even done.

    Guilt, Shame and Fear sure are powerful weapons, aren`t they Religion-Bear?"

    Catholicism?

  208. Profile photo of Overmann
    Overmann Male 18-29
    2600 posts
    February 5, 2009 at 11:23 am
    Hey, Cheese8406, just out of curiosity, do you masturbate with your eyes open or closed? Be honest.

    "Your conversion experience saved you from ambiguity, from fear of the unknown, fear of disorder. Fear of Death."

    I`m atheist and I have no such fears. Ask me why.

  209. Profile photo of Cheese84o6
    Cheese84o6 Male 13-17
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    February 5, 2009 at 12:04 pm
    (SP everything, I`m not a grammar Nazi but i like my posts to be readable.)

    You should read C.S. Louis, the bible by no means calls you to stop thinking, any intellectual who doesn`t have great respect for C.S. Louis is probably just biased because he was a brilliant man, along with hundreds of scientists that have contributed to where we are today.

  210. Profile photo of Cheese84o6
    Cheese84o6 Male 13-17
    394 posts
    February 5, 2009 at 12:07 pm
    Hey, Cheese8406, just out of curiosity, do you masturbate with your eyes open or closed? Be honest.

    "Your conversion experience saved you from ambiguity, from fear of the unknown, fear of disorder. Fear of Death."

    I`m atheist and I have no such fears. Ask me why.

    Sorry the fear thing was a quote i forgot to put quotes around. I was responding with the CS lois bit.

    And eyes open now answer my question.

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    Overmann Male 18-29
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    February 5, 2009 at 12:18 pm
    I wasn`t actually seeking an answer, I was lampooning you. You don`t get to ask me personal questions. But since you`ve answered it I suppose that puts me in a bit of a bind. Why do you want to know?
  212. Profile photo of Cheese84o6
    Cheese84o6 Male 13-17
    394 posts
    February 5, 2009 at 12:35 pm
    No reason really, it has no relevance to anything but it`s a morality VS. Self Control Question. People fight for freedom of speech in terms of porn, but there is not doubt in the mind of anyone who knows the horrors of porn that it is wrong. And if you do look at it your supporting it.
  213. Profile photo of sixclaws13
    sixclaws13 Male 18-29
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    February 5, 2009 at 5:16 pm
    "I don`t need your help sixclaws. In case you haven`t noticed I am indeed spiritual and have a coherent philosophy. The whole point of my little exercise was to get you to see the difference between healthy spirituality and fundamentalism, to look into the abyss so to speak"

    You don`t need my help, you need His.

  214. Profile photo of sixclaws13
    sixclaws13 Male 18-29
    2314 posts
    February 5, 2009 at 5:19 pm
    "Is this what you tell yourself to reconcile the lack of objective evidence of a god, that he`s hiding from us?"

    I have no lack of evidence. He has proven himself to me. And He doesn`t hide, you just refuse to see him.

  215. Profile photo of sixclaws13
    sixclaws13 Male 18-29
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    February 5, 2009 at 5:23 pm
    Cheese84o6 may have an unconventional argument, but he`s right about one thing. C.S. Lewis is a true genius.
  216. Profile photo of QueenZira
    QueenZira Female 18-29
    2228 posts
    February 5, 2009 at 5:36 pm
    "Not all who wander are lost" )0( I`m a happy heathen thank you.
    "But pagans agree, your god is fine too!"
  217. Profile photo of Overmann
    Overmann Male 18-29
    2600 posts
    February 6, 2009 at 8:41 am
    A predictable answer, Cheese84o6. You don`t seem to make any distinctions between varying types and intensities of porngraphy, and while surely there are categories and fetishes that qualify as wicked (though one could argue these content people with fantasy; I wouldn`t), not all pornography is necessarily so. You speak of `horrors of porn` but do the career choices of those working in the industry truly compare to the horrors of, say, the sex trade? Is willingly exposing one`s body to a camera for compensation truly as miserable as being betrayed into service, forced into sex with strangers? Gain a little perspective.

    "I have no lack of evidence."

    I specifically said *objective* evidence. You have only *subjective* evidence. Please tell me you can appreciate the distinction.

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    nocoassman Male 18-29
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    February 7, 2009 at 1:24 am
    ROFL! I`ve been reading your argument for a while, and I have to say its f_cking hilarious. I must say this knowing that there are many people that agree with me that religion is by far the worst STD(spiritually transmitted disease). All it is, is a defense mechanism in your brain, that makes you actually believe that everything is going to be alright because some guy you see for an hour on sunday says so. I can`t wait for the aliens to show up and put all that "god" $hit to rest. (BTW I`m not talking about Tom Cruis`s aliens, I`m talking about the hard core "probe you in the ass" aliens. Just to clarify) Oh yea, I almost forgot, something tells me sixclaws13 uses a mac, anyone else get that vibe?
  219. Profile photo of sixclaws13
    sixclaws13 Male 18-29
    2314 posts
    February 7, 2009 at 9:04 pm
    "Please tell me you can appreciate the distinction. "

    As soon as you can argue using more than three points.

    "something tells me sixclaws13 uses a mac, anyone else get that vibe?"

    I hate Macs. I use Linux. You fail on all accounts.

  220. Profile photo of Overmann
    Overmann Male 18-29
    2600 posts
    February 8, 2009 at 12:34 am
    "As soon as you can argue using more than three points."

    Please clarify. As soon as I can argue using more than three points, what will occur?

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    sereniee Female 18-29
    205 posts
    February 22, 2009 at 3:00 am
    whats with the guy with the salmon colored shirt touching the puppet so much? i think hes tempted to do something he really shouldn`t )-|
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    Sir_Viking Male 13-17
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    March 17, 2009 at 8:15 pm
    Jesus touched me in a bad place ;_;
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    draquoir Male 18-29
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    September 24, 2009 at 10:31 am
    Makes me oh so sad that I was once affiliated with these simpletons.

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