Should Dad Pay Child Support If Kids Aren`t His?

Submitted by: fancylad 8 years ago in
http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_30803.aspx

Dad is ordered to continue paying child support even after DNA test proves that his wife"s kids aren"t his.
There are 96 comments:
Female 738
I thought this article made an excellent point. It`s not about the mom or dad, but the kids. Too many people get wrapped up in their own crap that they forget the real victims, those two kids.

I think the bio mom should be penalized for fraud- not her children.

As for the father, he needs to get his head of his ass and continue to support those kids. Biology is not the sole determination of fatherhood.

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Male 559
This just pisses me off. He wouldn`t have been so close to them, or even helped raise them if she hadn`t liked and said they were his kids. If he loves the kids, and I am sure he does, then he should be given a choice to support them, and have as much visitation as he and the kids want. The lying bitch should have no say in it. I think if he loves the kids he can support them but his ex needs to pay him damages for fraud. And then face charges for filing a false claim of paternity to the province.
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Male 5,194
Woman judge, figures.
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Male 1,226
No I don`t think so. You don`t pay for you neighbours dog too, do you? This is bs, if I was that judge I`d charge HER with fraud.
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Male 603
Well, I can honestly say that I`m stumped on this one. I just don`t know the answer and could go either way on it.

I`m sure that if I read through IAB comments, I`ll find some nugget of truth that will lead me to the light, but my brain hurts right now and I`m going to choose to remain ignorant.

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Female 15,763
Man, the dad must feel kinda like a douche arguing for his right not to pay these kids.
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Male 2,199
she should either pay it all back with interest or he gets to bang her into an honest woman...
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Male 132
This is a total wrong, not only should the Mother be ordered to pay him back 10 years worth of child support she should also have to face fruad charges.

Laws concerning children are totally baised towards Mothers.

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Male 79
I really hope they appeal and get a reverse judgement.
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Male 4,593
Not only should the guy not have to pay, but he should get a REFUND for any child support he`d paid in the past.

If mommy continues her lying B.S. story about not "remembering", she can get a frickin` job and pay for the kids herself.

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Female 1,496
Nope. He should not be made to pay. The mom needs to go after the biological father.
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Female 5,222
i think if he adopted the kids then yes.. BUT if he didnt.. and they werent his.. sorry mom but them checks aint yours NO MORE XD
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Male 985
Course not
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Male 882
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh NO!
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Female 1,386
I gotta side with the guy, not his kids not his burden. Just because slutty mommy manipulated the situation in her favor to where he`s the only daddy they know, dosn`t mean he should have to pay for her Ill deeds till those kids are full grown.

But then again, I also don`t think guys should have to pay child support if they wish to terminate the pregnancy but have no say in the matter. I really think a guy should be able to get papers signed that state they wished to terminate but the mother refused. Thus waivering the child support requirement.

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Male 2,313
"Well, it`s the same thing as adoption isn`t it."

No, not any more than my friends adopted me because I spend a lot of time with them.

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Male 332
Dad takes the kids in and makes the whore pay child support.

How difficult is that?

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Male 600
That is bullpoo...

What a bloody whore.

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Female 741
this should be on maury
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Male 776
this is not like adoption at all, it is more like forced adoption if anything because the guy did not want to adopt kids at all.

what should happen though, is he pays child support two more years and once the kids are 18 they can go and do whatever while the wife gets sued back to the stone age

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Male 561
Tell the kids that their mom is a slut who has been lying to them all of their lives and defrauding a man who has loved and supported them all of their lives. Let the kids decide, but do not give that bitch another dime. When the kids turn 18, sue the crap out of her until she is penniless.
Or he could take her out on a date. One bullet ought to do it.
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Male 150
okay this is horrible, is it not bad enough that it is already to geared to give the woman nearly everything? But now she doesn`t even have to be honest about it. She committed adultery, which in a few states is against the law, and then essentially charged him for it. I think that the children should be supported until the age of 18. They are already 16, and then she should pay back every cent with interest.

It is sad the kids are caught in the middle of this, but the man needs to make a living too. And he should not be forced to pay for someone else`s mistake.

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Male 777
Well, it`s the same thing as adoption isn`t it. If they had adopted kids, who had then lived with them for 16 years, and then the parents separated, the father should still have to pay child support, despite their not being his, biologically.
Admittedly the wife is a b*tch, who should receive repercussions for what she did, but, whether the father likes it or not, the kids are still his, as much as they are anybody`s, and he should have to pay child support. Ideally, the father should have received custody after this, and the wife should have to pay child support, but the judge didn`t really side with the wife, she sided with the kids.
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Female 917
That`s horrible.

Just because he was lied to all these years and found out the truth means that he has to keep paying for it!?

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Female 665
"Cornelio`s wife claims she has no memory of having any affair and has no idea who the actual dad might be."

TOTAL B.S.

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Male 1,122
Disappointing. The father should counter sue for entrapment and fraud. He has rights too, it is not the childrens right to recieve payment from a man they are familiar with. It is their right to recieve support from their father.
If he was made aware and then adopted the children that would make sense that he now pay, otherwise, they are not his kids.
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Male 2,313
That is complete bullsh*t. What the hell is wrong with modern society? She cuts back his visitation, demands more money, lies about cheating on him, and then the judge supports her? That woman and the judge both need to be slapped and the woman needs to repay every cent he gave her.
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Male 451
it`s too bad for the kids caught in the middle of this whole mess... while infidelity is definitely no way to solve a problem, it`s hard to pass judgement without knowing more details about the relationship between mom and dad. he seems like a decent guy though, at least taking responsibility. i really hope the money was used correctly, but i`m guessing it wasn`t~
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Male 3,431
Goddamn PTK, that`s a pretty friggin awesome Idea there.
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Female 466
He raised those kids as his own for 16 yrs. I think the dad and the kids are the ones who get the short end of the stick on this one. He should continue to pay for the kids which he thought and raised thinking they were his, BUT, NO MONEY goes to the Mother, NONE!!! It goes into a TRUST fund, allocated to the kids for clothes, education, etc. from a court appointed moderator!! Not one friggen dime should go to the Mother, SHE committed FRAUD, not the Father or the two kids!!!
Get two jobs honey!!!! Sorry!!! You play, you pay!!!!
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Male 67
hellz no he shouldn`t. i think i remember a lesbian couple who used a sperm bank to get pregnant, then the lesbians broke up and the mother that received custody sued the donor "father" and won child support from him. or something like that.
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Female 1,063
NO, he should not be held responsible. It`s NOT his kids!!
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Male 7,933
"Only Americans can judge that stupid."

I agree... because of course Ontario is in the US right?


Ok I have the simple solution that would make sense for everyone.

You give the `Dad` custody of the kids. And force the whore I mean mother, and the biological father of the kids to pay him child support.

Punish the people who are at fault

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Male 674
Personally, if just being the father figure makes you responsible for paying for their care, than damn it, he should have the right to them.

I think the mother should be arrested for fraud, and the children go into the custody of the father figure...

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Male 2,306
"this is not different than adopting a kid and then divorcing your wife. you still gotta pay."

Uh, no. It`s actually completely different.

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Male 2,076
thiayli, someones been reading too much propaganda. that`s fine, as long as you don`t share with everyone else! :-D
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Male 90
As if having a person that looks exactly alike you in the cough isn`t enough...
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Male 309
i completly agree with its all fake. also webz, yeah he should want to pay. but he definatly should not have to. he doesnt even get to keep the kids that he has to pay for that arent his? thats bull
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Male 541
He shouldn`t HAVE to, but if he has raised the kids as their father he should want to.
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Male 474
The real problem comes from the mother. The mother should be criminally charged with fraud and possibly larceny. She lied and claimed the kids were his, then stole money from him based on that lie. The child support judge might make his decision, and that is all well and good. But the father should be working with a lawyer from now until those kids turn 18 to build up a criminal case against the mother and have her charged with fraud and larceny. Screw civil litigation, he wouldn`t collect anyway. Throw her ass in jail, send her ass to county were some butch dyke will teach her the pain of being screwed over for 12 years...
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Male 4,546
I think the people saying "someone" needs to pay for the kids need to consider that the state should not be allowed to choose someone at random to pay for them.

The state here is shirking it`s responsibility in favour of giving it to some poor sap who got conned.

Of course the kids need to be taken care of, there are 7 billion people on earth though, and you`re putting the burden on him, who likely has already paid over $400`000 to raise these two.

It will not be fair until he sues her, for at the very least $400`000. $800`000 would not be an unreasonable figure here either for compensation.

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Male 3,014
Here`s the big problem in this case:

- If he pays, his ex-wife Cheaty McSlut doesn`t get properly punished for her actions.
- If he doesn`t pay, the kids who see him as a father figure will suffer.

It`s a lose-lose situation.

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Male 309
she doesnt remember the affair? what a drating bitch
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Female 652
"because he`s the only father they`ve ever known"? seriously, the guy shouldn`t have to pay for this. that being said, they are pretty much HIS children. he`s loved them for the past 16 years. so i`m sure he will at least help with bills. although he should not be forced to do a thing
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Male 474
This really just comes down to money that the state gets. When the father pays child support the state gets a cut. If the judge ruled in favor of the guy, then that means the woman and the state may be put in a position to possibly have to give the money back. Add in the fact that the state will continue to collect for the next 2 years, again, the state wants the money. Financially speaking, i don`t think he should be financially responsible for them. If they have a good relationship that`s great. I have had a father son relationship with my stepfather for over 30 years, but if for some reason my parents were to divorce, there is no way i would expect my dad (stepdad) to be responsible for me if something were to happen and i needed money, or help. He might be my dad, but he is not my father, and i cant expect him to have the same responsibilities as my father. Same goes here, he was their dad, not their father.
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Male 104
Next heather Mills lol
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Female 338
They still arn`t his kids...

His wife is a lying Bitch.. He shouldn`t be punished for that.

She needs to remember this affair she isn`t aware of but obviously had. And get that idiot to pay.

Just because he is only the "dad" they know doesn`t mean that he should have to pay. Once he learned that they aren`t his, then he should have the choice to continue support or not... not a Judge.

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Male 120
I agree. Child support should go to the children`s needs and care.

And I think this issue is about the morality of allowing such scam to continue.
On the states part it`s about money, namely state`s money that doesn`t have to be handed out to the mother as long as the man pays. Shows upstanding citizenship and moral code from the mother to continue demanding money after the fact.

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Female 495
Lord_Panda.. if you had continued to read my post you would have seen that I had highlighted the obvious difference between this case and adoption.

You would also hope that it is the children who receive the money, since they are grown teenagers. Of course, it would be speculation to say who would beneit from the cash.

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Male 120
SarahJ86
"By saying he does not have to pay because they are not biologically his undermines adoptive relationships"

In a situation of adoption, one usually is aware that the children aren`t his/hers. In this case however, he was made to believe that the offspring is his.
And for the undermining, cases where one spouse can do whatever pleases them, and get paid for it, courages that sort of behavior. That undermines traditional family.

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Female 495
Its a tough one. I do feel for the Dad in more ways that one - and if we`re talking real justice and firness, then no it doesnt seem fair or an example of justice. I understand why its done though. If you have brought up kids, looked after them and acted as a father - then whether they are biologically yours or not, you are their father. By saying he does not have to pay because they are not biologically his undermines adoptive relationships or other family types which are completely legitimate and loving. I think the fact that he did not know that they were not his does make it a questionable issue though.
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Male 845
[potency-fail]
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Male 588
Alright, just to give some context to those who care (not sure anyone will).

The law in Ontario creates what is known as "social parents" which is, it creates liability for child support between children and people who stand in the place of a parent, whether or not there is a biological link. Think of, for example, step-parents. Even if you don`t go through the trouble of doing a proper adoption, if you care for them from the age of 3 until 15, you are considered a parent for the purposes of child support.

The reason for this is that they want to minimize the amount of social assistance the government has to pay out, and they think the best way to do this is to make as many people as possible responsible for the child, including their biological parents. (So theoretically the biological father, and this man, could both be paying child support, although in that case the biological father would probably be paying more).

It might not be fair, but at least now you why.

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Female 331
Oh and...I do agree with Baalthazaq and others. The woman should definitely suffer some repercussion--lawsuit, etc. She deserves to be punished.
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Male 120
What a remarkable presentation of fair justice. Almost daddy gets to keep paying for someone else kids.

Though I understand why the state is allowing this, if the kinda father wouldn`t have to pay anything she would perhaps receive some form of goverment hand-outs, and that`s money off from the goverment...
Following the money trail leads one to answer many times.

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Male 325
he shouldn`t have to pay
but he should pay if he still loves them but it shpould be his choice
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Female 331
Ok, enough about the "slut bitch," that isn`t even the issue.

Read the article: it`s not about the parents, it`s about the kids. That is the ONLY thing that should matter in this case. Yes, it SUCKS that this guy found out he`s not the real father of his kids. Yes, that woman is a bitch for having an affair and lying about it all these years. But those girls shouldn`t have to pay because of their mother`s mistake. They need their father`s support, whether he`s their blood or not. Like the article said, he`s the only father they`ve ever known. The guy needs to swallow his pride and support his children.

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Male 9
@aero

You`re too young. Look at the world for a time long enough and you`ll find the sense.

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Female 731
I don`t think the lady should have custody.
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Male 3,296
double standard here, as usual,

do you really want "equal" rights?????

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Male 1,053
SLUT
silly bitch
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Male 322
what a slut bitch. F no don`t pay. Still see them if you want but I would fight this. BS men always get drated. BITCH
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Female 1,134
i think that the woman should pay attention to whom ever she f*cks. i think the guy shouldn`t pay for child support if the children aren`t his. and i agree to Splurbyburbl, if the dad had to pay for child support the woman have to tie her tubes and remove her sexual organs and only allow to visit her kids once a month.
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Female 289
I think the dad should be able to take the kids and have the mom pay him.

I mean its not saying that he is disowning them, that he doesn`t love them he`s just p!ssed because his wife cheated on him and been paying for someone elses kids. I mean I would be ticked off too if I were him.

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Male 886
VV Not only is that off-topic, it made no sense
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Male 9
[offtopic]
To whom it may concern:

To me, even the UK is America.

Or should I say UKUSA (UK, Canada, New Zealand, Australia, google that).

UK is just the freakin` 51st state and gives a poo about the "real" continental Europe.[/offtopic]

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Male 787
drat the kids I bet he doesn`t even give a drat about them at this point. I know I wouldn`t! They`re not even his.
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Female 1,653
If he wants to be their dad then mebbe he should... But the wife should get sued or something at least...
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Male 787
Wtf stupid slut.
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Male 322
Agreed with splurbyburbl
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Male 868
As said before; if he still wants to be the kid`s acting father (regardless of DNA testing) then yes, he should pay for child support.
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Male 2,796
Nope... I say that if the Father has to keep paying, then the woman has to have her clitoris surgically removed as well as her tubes tied. I think that is totally fair.

I mean, so let`s be real here. The wife has an affair, breaks a legal marriage contract and the only three people to be punished are the two kids and the Dad? I don`t call that justice. Nope, take away the two kids and give them to Daddy. The Mom can have them once a month.

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Male 376
Wow, thats a load of BS for sure.
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Male 2,076
to people in europe, canada and america are the same thing. they claim to be a lot more aware about the world, but in this area...there`s no difference. I don`t really blame them really. Canada, America`s hat.
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Male 27
um, you do know this is from canada right?
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Male 291
Okay. Im going to break this down. If the husband decides to sue the ex wife for fraud he will win. That was not the trial from this article. Fraud however is only fraud if the party is aware of their deciet, but if he can PROVE, she knew, the bitch would go down hard and fast.

To the issue. Its very tough. I think whats happened here, but is not stated, is that this man still demands visitation, and the judge has said only if you keep paying child support. If he declined visitation, he wouldnt have to pay, and on the of chance this judge didnt see it that way, which I very very highly doubt, a simple appeal to a higher court would do the trick. This story and article is not a very good account of events or the situation in its intirety. What Ive said, Though a guess, is an educated guess, and Im quite sure is mostly to completly correct. This is a very vauge account, so I wouldnt give the article that much thought, and would research it completly before deciding anything.

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Male 976
Answer: No
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Male 4,546
Making him pay child support if he still wants to be considered their dad = fair.
Suing the woman for fraud = fair.
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Male 9
Only Americans can judge that stupid.

Sure, the kids DO have the right to not be penalized. So, either the state (read: the community) or the REAL father has to pay, once found. I prefer the latter option.

But saying: "C`mon, you`ve been paying for years already. Now you gotta pay your whole life" is simply stupid.

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Male 322
I agree with most of the comments, but what do you`ll think of the increase and decrease in payments and visitations then? Should`nt he be cut some slack?
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Male 169
i alos dont know how it works in american but in england if the father was alowed to stop paying child support. then the goverment would then pay the family child support
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Male 169
wow. i kind of see were the judge is coming from, but by doing it its punishing the dad for being a good guy. if hed took action when the kids were born and got a dna test then, he wouldnt have had to pay anything. i think the father should be incouraged to continue paying child support. but one the chilldren reach 18 the mother and the biological father should be brought to cort and charged for fraud( if the mother cant remeber who she slept with she should be held total responsible)
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Male 130
This is the best decision that could have been taken with regards to the welfare of the two kids. The father has to be angry at the mother and take actions against her, instead of those who have loved him and depended on him for 16 years.
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Female 283
I think he should have to pay. He raised the children like they were his, even though he isn`t the biological father, if he still wants to visit the kids, he should have to pay. Wouldn`t it be terrible to be one of the children to think "Oh, now that my dad proved he`s not my father, he doesn`t want anything to do with me anymore."?
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Male 322
In that case, why doesn`t the judge disallow her from asking for an increase in payments and decreasing the visitation time.

You`re asking the guy to pay more money and visit less for kids that aren`t even his?

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Male 1
The husband has been a victim of fraud. Plain and simple. It is too late to get the money back but child support payments should legally stop. If he wants to continue to pay something voluntarily to keep the relationship with his children that should be his decision. What is the point of a DNA test if the results do not change the situation?
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Male 886
"not yours = not your responsibility"

But they are his, they just aren`t technically/scientifically his, but like the judge said, he`s the only father they`ve ever known. Just because he recently discovered he isn`t the biological father, he`s still the father, I`m sure his kids still call him dad. And even though his now ex-wife cheated on him, his `kids` shouldn`t suffer because he`s angry with his ex-wife and refuses to help pay for their well-being.

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Female 328
Well, at least he`s only got two years of it left... but that`s still utter bulls**t.
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Male 367
I agree with spp on this one.
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Male 334
this is not different than adopting a kid and then divorcing your wife. you still gotta pay.
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Female 299
I think if he wants to keep the relationship with the kids and therefore taking a fatherly role he should keep up the payments.

If he decides he doesn`t care for the kids then he shouldn`t pay.

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Male 338
That`s actually a tough decision on the judge`s part.
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Male 67
F**K THAT S**T! Kill that bitch and the judge.
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Male 2,160
not yours = not your responsibility
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Female 2,064
That ain`t fair. D=
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Male 20,825
Link: Should Dad Pay Child Support If Kids Aren`t His? [Rate Link] - Dad is ordered to continue paying child support even after DNA test proves that his wife`s kids aren`t his.
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