Schools Have Less Time For Penmanship

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http://www.indystar.com/article/20090126/NEWS04/901260379

Cursive writing will soon be a thing of the past in schools.
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Male 432
Ghostofme16
Female, 13-17, Eastern US
121 Posts Monday, January 26, 2009 1:45:05 PM
lol
FUNNY
I was talking about this with my boyfriend the other day.

I judge people by their handwritting.
I find people who write in print less intelligent than me.
Its stupid, it has no personality. Its simple to the point that its almost dumb.
Hmmm.
Its my opinion though lol
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Some of the most intelligent people I`ve met have terrible handwriting, not handwritting as you spelled it. For instance, Ron Paul`s signature looks like that of an 8-year-old and my geometry teacher had terrible handwriting. However, both are very smart people.

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Male 244
"I judge people by their handwritting.
I find people who write in print less intelligent than me.
Its stupid, it has no personality. Its simple to the point that its almost dumb."

So doctors, PhD psychologists, or the like who happen to write in print are less intelligent than you? Your profile says 13-17 so you`re likely a high-schooler; obviously a *very* intelligent high-schooler.

Either way, to Hell with cursive. The only thing I use it for is my signature.

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Female 531
i love cursive, but overall, i don`t have time to write in exact penmenship. the way i write usually is a mix of print and penmenship
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Female 129
Cursive ftw.
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Female 108
I could never write in cursive print. It annoyed the hell out of me when I was forced to write that way because it wasn`t even readable.
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Female 39
As an artist, I value anything on paper and to me Cursive is another art form, almost like Calligraphy. I was taught cursive when I was little, and even though I hated it at the time, I love now. It has a better flow to it than print and can easily be written without having to lift up the pencil too often. It`s true it`s not used that often, but I know for a fact that all signatures are supposed to be in cursive. What happens to that if we stop teaching this way of writing? Wouldn`t it be easier for identities to be stolen, for a persons handwriting to be copied? Print is much, much easier to duplicate than cursive, I know this from experience. Just to keep in practice, I`ll write in my journal or do a random school paper in cursive. It`s also a nice let out for stress since letters flow beautifully and it doesn`t have all the harsh angles in it that print does. I miss assignments that in cursive, not everyone`s handwriting is turning to chicken scratch. There`s no disapline.
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Male 372
my cursive looks WORSE than my standard print

i dont see what the big deal is

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Female 47
elementary school without cursive seems weird to me...i learned in second grade and used it for all my writing up until about fifth grade...writing in cursive seems like a right of passage to me, but maybe that`s because my school kind of overdid it
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Female 1,677
All of these comments are freaking me out. I write only in "cursive" (around here it`s just called handwriting..) and just about everybody I know does too. I thought it was like the natural evolution of learning how to print? The world is a weird place..
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Male 556
True,DuckBoy.

You can`t get too unique with print, though.

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Female 110
I like writing in cursive, quite possibly because my cursive is easier to read than when I print... Handwriting is surely a dying art. I`m usually one to vote for change in the classrooms, but I think they should keep this in the curriculum.
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Female 387
Never had to learn it. We had to learn to write neatly, but that was it. Didn`t always work, though!
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Male 285
Cursive is hard to write, and even harder to read. It`s about time it was pushed aside.
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Male 701
lol I hate cursive, it just takes longer to write for me. :P
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Male 602
When I took the SATs, you had to recopy this thing saying you wouldn`t cheat and whatnot, and it said to recopy it in cursive, and it was literally 1 maybe 2 sentences and it took some kids 20 minutes when it took me 20 seconds. I`m not exaggerating, we sat in that room for 20 minutes while waiting for the kid to write.
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Male 564
Cursive is an annoying necessity, some documents and stuff require it. I used to love cursive because it`s a lot quicker to write than just printing. However, I stopped when I realized my cursive was very hard to read.
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Male 868
Cursive was probably the worst thing to learn in school.
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Male 3,463
boredest1, a signature is not necessarily a name written cursively.

A signature is a mark, your mark.

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Male 1,788
Cursive is gay. Yeah, I said it. And I don`t care if it offends you.
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Female 2,289
Aw, I love cursive. Much faster than print. IMO students should learn how to write in cursive before learning print.
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Go to hell cursive writer.

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Male 167
Man I hated cursive writing... all 3 years of it...
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Male 528
Nice, moto.
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Male 163
I choos to wright thoughtfully over making it look pretty, shallow mided people these days.
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Male 1,666
Screw cursive anyway
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Male 1,765
Aw, I love cursive. Much faster than print. IMO students should learn how to write in cursive before learning print.
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Male 219
I got learned gothic script and it left plenty of time for being learnt other stuf. We were learned gramma and speeling and why we were having to stop eating the glue in craft classes. It maid me a better purson than wot I wud have bean. If your not teeching kids this today then theirs you`re problem.
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Male 430
I remember that cursive crap. Always told your gonna use it in high school so learn it now. Never used only it to sign my damn name.
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Female 101
Thank God for that! Cursive was hell for me as a kid. Still is. I hate it and only use it to sign my name (and even that looks terrible). I can think of dozens of different things that take precedence over learning how to write pretty. Slap down some print and live your life!
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Female 170
Will soon be a thing of the past? As far as I knew it already was. Cursive was never taught in any of the schools I went to (I graduated high school in 2004, in case that makes a difference). The only thing I can write in cursive is my first initial and last name, for my signature.
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Male 8,302

I saw, good riddance to it!
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Male 7,378
should be the parents responsibility to teach their kids handwriting.
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Female 42
Unfortunately this is true... I teach second grade and we have a third grade teacher that doesn`t teach it. It`s important for kids to know how to write cursive. I teach it to my students, and they are very excited about it... but it isn`t as emphasized anymore.
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Male 674
I only used cursive in elementary school. I just tried, and I can`t even write my name in it anymore. Frankly I think they should stop teaching cursive and focus on something more relevant, like teaching a second language, like Chinese...
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Female 1,004
i don`t really use a lot of cursive, but I do tend to still loop some things together while writing, like double os, ls, so on.

I think we don`t need to focus on handwriting as much as spelling. Even if they wrote perfectly, doesn`t mean you can understand it if they spl lyk dis.

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Male 163
I always type things and very rarely do I write things w/ pen and paper. But when I do it`s always in cursive. I used to write out my classwork in wingdings but my teachers kept failing me for it.
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Male 556
Opie - You`ve never had to sign a check?

Cleary there will be no need for signatures in the future.

B-|

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Male 670
Why didn`t they make a cursive space?
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Female 15,763
I learned cursive in 2nd grade and have NOT used it since.
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Female 193
But if you don`t learn cursive, how will you make awesome signatures!?
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Male 2,313
That`s sad, I love cursive.
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Male 7,933
cursive is a waste of time
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Female 1,427
my handwriting is a mix of standard and cursive, because I write fast.

my j`s and p`s and q`s, etc, all loop at the bottom because I hardly pick up my pen, save for spaces.

and even then, you can see a light penstroke. XD

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Male 629
So would they freak out if they see a cursive font in a cursive handwriting-free future?
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Male 8,302
Cursive schmursive. In the old days (when Lionhart was a lad) cursive was the best, fastest way to take notes, obviously, because you don`t need to take your pen off the paper. That`s why it was invented. But with notetakers, fast typing, voice rec, digicams, cheap and fast printing of master notes, etc, the need for cursive has died to next to nothing. So I say let it die and good riddance. Besides, I don`t like the cursive S, it looks like a drunk duck.
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Female 731
I like cursive because it`s good for fast writing, like when taking notes...and also it looks fancy. :)
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Male 151
it`s possible , if cursive is taken out of schools, that knowing cursive may be a class thing...

like when just being able to read and write was a sign of wealth and status...only people who can afford private education may learn to write in cursive...

or maybe it will fade out altogether...

i learned cursive in 1st or 2nd...i only write in cursive, unless its like a paper i have to fill out for a job interview or something...

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Male 314
Learning cursive nowadays is pointless. That time could be better put to computer literacy.
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Male 4,793
the problem is, they force us to write cursive for like a year of our lives, nobody likes getting forced into anything, so naturally when they give us the option to print or cursive, we are all `drat that im going back to my way, bitch.` recently when i took my ACTs, like 3 people out of the 25 or so knew how to write cursive, everybody else (including me) struggled and wondered `wtf, why should we write in cursive, give us a reason ffs.`
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Female 924
I`ve learned cursive in elementary school but now my hand writing is some sort of mixture between cursive and print because that`s the fastest way to write.
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Male 292
I really like writing in cursive, it adds an artistic touch.
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Female 1,516
All part of the dumbing down of America.
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Male 17,512
Learned cursive writing in 2nd grade, It was torture. 6 blackboards full of Robert Lewis Stevenson poetry that we had to copy everyday!

The only thing I use it for is my signature, Might be considered a waste of time nowadays.

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Male 5
Thank God! Cursive is beautiful...and that`s it. There`s no advantage to writing in cursive...I`m a high school senior and the only cursive I know is my signature. The SAT has this little part where it tells you to WRITE, not PRINT, the following message: [blah blah I will not talk about the test blah blah]. I just kinda made up my own cursive-print hybrid font and scribbled in it. I think it`s harder to read anyways. Why do we learn cursive if we`re not gonna learn Comic Sans MS? Or Verdana? Or to write in pig Latin?

It`s useless. Maybe we`ll quit learning sentence diagramming one day too, something just about as useless as cursive.

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Male 430
When I was learning cursive my teacher told me that in high school, teachers only accept work in cursive... needless to say it was a total lie. In my opinion learning to communicate effectively is more important than cursive.
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Female 1,589
Everyone is all "Students just type in class for their notes. It`s faster." I find that utterly stupid.
1) Not all classrooms have computers in it.
2) Not all students need/can afford a laptop. High school students still need to take notes, and in my high school NO ONE had a laptop. And if they did they only brought it in if they have a power point on it or something.
3) What if the professor draws a diagram on the board? Are you going to go through all that trouble to select the right tools on the computer to draw it? Sketching it in a notebook is much easier, faster, and you can copy it down exactly like the professor did.
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Male 524
I know how to write in cursive and print, but i`m pretty sloppy in both because i write so fast lol. Really, the uses for cursive are...diminishing. I still think it should be taught at some point though.
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Female 4,447
..I really *like* cursive.
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Female 58
My handwriting is pretty much illegible in cursive and print. I do my assignments in print, for being told not to right in cursive, unless it is notes. I write my stories (original non-typed copies) in cursive though. Helps make my plots flow, for whatever reason. I forgot 2 couple letters though. The capital f and g.
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Male 376
"Monday, January 26, 2009 1:45:05 PM

I judge people by their handwritting.

>handwritting

I find people who write in print less intelligent than me.

>handwritting"

Haha. Oh wow. How pretentious and hypocritical.

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Female 386
lol
FUNNY
I was talking about this with my boyfriend the other day.

I judge people by their handwritting.
I find people who write in print less intelligent than me.
Its stupid, it has no personality. Its simple to the point that its almost dumb.
Hmmm.
Its my opinion though lol

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Female 362
My penmanship is sloppy in print and cursive so it doesn`t matter which way I write. Plus soon writting all together is going to be a thing of the past soon EVERYTHING is going to be done in type...
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Male 323
idk, in cursive you do write faster but, i changed from private to public school and all of my friends couldn`t even read what i wrote cursive, i had to read it to them, made me realize i need new friends.
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Male 410
Its good to know to write in cursive but its not terribly useful anymore.
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Male 2,422
I`ve been using curvsive ever since I learned how to write. When I try to print I inevitably start using cursive again halfway through a sentence or even a word lol. Besides printing is boring, cursive makes you look either erudite or insane (i.e. interesting).
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Male 352
Nobody I know writes in cursive anyhow.
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Male 14,334
I`ve always had sloppy penmanship and no matter how much the teachers I had tried to help me improve it I never got beter and it`s probably the same for alot of people. Just teach how to wright and move on to typing.
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Female 1,545
That`s unfortunate.

While I didn`t use cursive a whole lot in elementary school or high school, I certainly use it now that I`m in college and have to take quick notes. I hated learning cursive, but now I`m very glad I did. It`s a truly valuable skill.

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Female 1,441
I never saw any use for it. Most high brow exams like the AP exams in highschool require you to print the essays anyway.
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Male 1,853
When I`m bored during class, I`ll write my name in cursive a couple times in the margin. I`ve never really gotten my signature down pat, so I`m trying to decide what version I should stick with.
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Male 1,584
i stopped using cursive a long long time ago. i do all my handwritten stuff in print, i dont know any kids my age that write in cursive. when i was little it was required for a while, then after a while every one stopped.
but this one class in 9th grade we had a teacher that was this old hunchy lady that required us to use cursive and i had to relearn, and most of the class didnt know how, and we always forgot so when we handed in an assignment we had to re write it. she also made us rewrite stuff it it had the fridges from being torn out of a notebook.

yeah i hate cursive. the end.

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Male 276
woot my criptiviness through handwritten just went up 3 more points.....y peoms miht be considered an eirey look into a soul one day now :P
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Female 1,082
no more cursive doesnt mean no more creative writing. creative writing is like short stories and novels, the way you put ink to paper has nothing to do with your skill in forming a story. i honestly dont see the point in cursive other than to write a signature since to me it is easier to write in print.
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Male 807
Less time isn`t an excuse, it`s a lie.
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Male 1,365
Cursive writing allows free flow of thought while writing. Cursive is brain massage.
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Female 1,652
penmanship is sort of going down the drain. I remember having to handwrite essays and stuff in grade school, but in college, we do more stuff on the computer now. The most that I write in cursive these days is my signature.
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Male 817
"Cursive" (also known as "writing" to normal people) has a habit of becoming simply a part of your handwriting as a whole as you grow older and wiser. The faster you write, the more tails and what not you`ll put on your letters to connect them.

And, how do you forget "cursive"? All the letters are there, just with tails to connect them all.

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Male 1,598
I`m in 10th grade right now, I learned cursive back in 3rd. My friends and I tried to see how much cursive we can remember, and it was pretty much just our own names and nothing else.

Also, isn`t cursive supposed to be faster or something? It always takes me longer to write in cursive...

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Female 47
"I remember in grade school, they were always telling us how when we got to high school we were always gonna have to use cursive.
Then I got to high school, and never even heard it mentioned. lol"

Ohhh Yes.

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Female 1,142
"`I remember in grade school, they were always telling us how when we got to high school we were always gonna have to use cursive.
Then I got to high school, and never even heard it mentioned. lol `

me too"

Yeah. That.

I know a kid who still writes in cursive, and no one can ever read it. Even if he did nail all the letters, they all look the same. Just loops. >_>

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Female 486
Cursive is pretty and it would be a bit sad if we lost it completely, but I must admit it`s useless to learn it now. I was taught to write in cursive in 3rd grade, being told that I would use it always. After 3rd grade, I never did. It was never even mentioned. I only know how to write my name in cursive now because I`ve just forgotten the rest of the letters after all this time.
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Male 779
It`s all about text now. Welcome to the new age.
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Male 226
Never used cursive. Learned it, know it. Never found a use for it. Away with cursive, I say.
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Female 9,478
"I remember in grade school, they were always telling us how when we got to high school we were always gonna have to use cursive.
Then I got to high school, and never even heard it mentioned. lol "

me too

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Male 552
I remember in grade school, they were always telling us how when we got to high school we were always gonna have to use cursive.
Then I got to high school, and never even heard it mentioned. lol
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Female 2
Why not teach all kids how to type properly? It`s way faster
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Female 9,478
I hated writed in cursive, I still do. None of my teachers require it, and the only time I really use it is when I have sign in signigshure.
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Male 9
Cursive writing is dying. With texting messages, laptop computers everywhere, today`s school kids rarely put pencil to paper. Maybe only in math class. Even technical drawing classed are all computer assisted. Gone are the days of writing beautiful script love letters and leaving someone a note.
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Female 74
It`s not just cursive that is the problem, it`s handwriting in general. I`ve had to teach chemistry labs in which all procedures, calculations and analyses has to be in their ACS standardized notebooks and they cannot type their final product. In this increasingly paperless world, handwriting can sometimes be so atrocious it is ungradeable.
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Male 108
I learned cursive early, I liked calligraphy as a kid so actually knew a fair amount before I was taught. To be honest I have trouble writing in print. I start out that way and kind of meander back to cursive half way through a word or sentence.
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Male 51
Wait, wait a minute. To all of you who say cursive is a waste of time: you all write in block letter? poo. I thought everybody wrote in joined-up writing, if only for the time efficiency.
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Male 376
WTF?! Cursive is the bee`s knees! >_< How dare they.
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Female 495
I dropped cursive as soon as i left primary school so i, like most of my friends, could be more `original` and different with our writing. Looking back, I wish I had kept it up, it looks a lot nicer!
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Female 138
I never understood the necessity of cursive, other than a signature. So what if nowadays people type more instead of writing by hand? It`s faster, easier, and you can actually read it. I think we need to stop blaming everyone and saying, "US children are stupid, they can`t do math, they can`t write cursive, etc." Who is that helping? Our education system is by no means perfect, but times are changing and other things become more important.
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Male 3,612
What`s the point of having herself anyway? We have a 26 letter alpha that that is written in 104 characters what`s the point? On the other side of the coin maybe we would have more time for penmanship if we stop hammering propaganda into the children
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Male 882
that`s sad
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Female 1,589
I think it`s useful to know because a lot of teachers in high school (some on middle school) write notes on the board in cursive, as well as when you get an assignment back, the comments are in cursive.
I like to use it when taking notes during a lecture, since the profs talk so fast, and cursive is quicker then printing. This way I don`t miss anything (or just less).
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Female 741
and I had to practice that poo for like 2 months in 2nd grade for what?
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Male 325
i write completely in cursive
but as i am dyslexic it is near impossible for everyone else to read
(nearly impossible for me to read at times as well)
:)
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Male 1,406
I learned cursive in 3rd grade. Only used it once or twice since. I`ve forgotten several of the letters by now...
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Female 153
I like how the first comment on the article is some one who thinks that teaching cursive in schools is a "waist" of time.
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Male 620
Yay.
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Male 404
Cursive is the most useless thing I have ever learned in school.
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Female 876
>.>

I mean, it`s useless to write these days (except your sig), but you should definitely know how to read it.

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Male 140
Link: Schools Have Less Time For Penmanship [Rate Link] - Cursive writing will soon be a thing of the past in schools.
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