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48 Responses to Man Builds Full-Size Noah`s Ark

  1. Profile photo of Lionhart2
    Lionhart2 Male 40-49
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    January 11, 2009 at 7:37 am
    Link: Man Builds Full-Size Noah`s Ark - I guess he`s getting ready for the big global-warming sea-level rise.
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    s0rd3dvis1on Male 18-29
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    January 11, 2009 at 7:45 am
    Will it float that is the question?
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    January 11, 2009 at 7:57 am
    Evan Almighty anyone?
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    gandhi172 Male 18-29
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    January 11, 2009 at 8:14 am
    Even though I`m really not Christian anymore, I`d still like to see this just out of interest, it looks really, uhh, "cool."
    I wonder if this is somehow going to turn into yet another religious debate.
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    ne028 Male 18-29
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    January 11, 2009 at 8:16 am
    ICEBERG RIGHT AHEA...no wait
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    Dr_Sexy Male 30-39
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    January 11, 2009 at 8:18 am
    Mary Louise Starosciak, `I know the story of Noah, but I had no idea the boat would have been so big`. duh
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    January 11, 2009 at 8:24 am
    Here comes the religious flame war.

    Who will be the first to persecute the Christian guy who did something cool?

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    Groogle Male 30-39
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    January 11, 2009 at 8:27 am
    This raft is small compared to the Oasis class cruise ship.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_cla...

    Noah, eat your heart out!

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    chrisi1707 Female 18-29
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    January 11, 2009 at 8:33 am
    cool hobby
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    yen223 Male 18-29
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    January 11, 2009 at 9:38 am
    Where do you put the dinosaurs?
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    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    January 11, 2009 at 9:38 am
    Groogle, did one man build that Oasis class ship with his own hands?

    If not, then fail.

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    Webz Male 18-29
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    January 11, 2009 at 10:18 am
    awwwwsum. Now all he needs is lots of animals to stuff in there.
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    Tiredofnicks Male 30-39
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    January 11, 2009 at 10:28 am
    A for effort.
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    paramecium Female 18-29
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    January 11, 2009 at 11:45 am
    I am impressed by that. I`m not even Christian. He`s a done a good job.

    But I bet all the animals on the world wouldn`t fit.

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    imaguitargod Male 18-29
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    January 11, 2009 at 11:46 am
    "Where do you put the dinosaurs? "

    Right next to bigfoot.

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    SPARTAKITTY Female 18-29
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    January 11, 2009 at 12:16 pm
    He has way too much time on his hands.
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    KoalaMeatPie Male 18-29
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    January 11, 2009 at 1:06 pm
    IF placed in water, the ark would tear itself appart.

    Even on empty.

    Yay for science and a drowned Noah.

    Myth based on a tale of a hebrew merchant who was caught in the flooding of the medeteranian sea, if I remember correctly.

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    Boredx12 Female 13-17
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    January 11, 2009 at 1:22 pm
    "Huibers did the work mostly with his own hands, using modern tools and with occasional help from his son Roy"
    wow I hope he took tech. at school he`d have aced it!
  19. Profile photo of Mantolwen
    Mantolwen Female 18-29
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    January 11, 2009 at 1:51 pm
    I bet they didn`t have emergency exit signs on the original.

    ""Where do you put the dinosaurs? "

    Right next to bigfoot. "

    Just because the word dinosaur hadn`t been invented when the Bible was translated...

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    xiquiripat Male 18-29
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    January 11, 2009 at 2:27 pm
    "Myth based on a tale of a hebrew merchant who was caught in the flooding of the medeteranian sea, if I remember correctly."

    Or partially stolen from the Babylonian Epic of Gilgamesh which was written about 1,000 years previous, including that bit about the dove.

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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    January 11, 2009 at 2:49 pm
    "IF placed in water, the ark would tear itself appart.

    Even on empty.

    Yay for science and a drowned Noah.

    Myth based on a tale of a hebrew merchant who was caught in the flooding of the medeteranian sea, if I remember correctly."

    Not true, The Ark would`ve withstood some very large storms. Cedar is a very strong wood and Lebanese Cedar trees (which the Ark was built from) grew for thousands of years (each) and were likely 30 foot in girth or more. Tar was available for waterproofing and there would`ve been room for a zoo full of animals with their food.

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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    January 11, 2009 at 3:06 pm
    If it was a real boat, I`d be impressed. Unless it floats, it`s a model. A very large model, but a model none the less. It`s also still far too small to hold sufficient breeding stock of every land and most air animals from Earth. Most flying animals need to land on land much more often than every 40 days, so they`d need to be on it too. Plus food and, much worse, drinking water. For all of them. Even assuming that God teleported the animals to the ark, because they certainly couldn`t have got there any other way.

    Then there`s the people problem - there`s no way the human race could have flourished from just the people mentioned (Noah, his wife, his sons and their wives). Even ignoring the glaring problem of incest being a bit of an issue in reproduction.

    The only way it could work is if the ark was a spaceship and the animals (plus a lot more people) were stored as genetic samples and somehow recreated after landing.

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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    January 11, 2009 at 3:13 pm
    I`m idly wondering if the various devastation myths of various religions stem, hugely distorted by time, from the explosion of Toba. I don`t think so, given that Toba exploded ~74,000 years ago, but it`s a thought. There`s evidence that it killed nearly everyone. It would certainly have caused apocalyptic destruction.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    January 11, 2009 at 3:14 pm
    "Will it float that is the question?"

    No, the question is: Will it blend? :-)

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    CharlieA Male 18-29
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    January 11, 2009 at 3:37 pm
    "Where do you put the dinosaurs?"

    lol

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    opiebreath Female 18-29
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    January 11, 2009 at 4:19 pm
    THERE`S A GIRAFFE.

    Angil, what`s Toba? *googles*

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    mooogandi Male 13-17
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    January 11, 2009 at 5:30 pm
    "If it was a real boat, I`d be impressed. Unless it floats, it`s a model. A very large model, but a model none the less. It`s also still far too small to hold sufficient breeding stock of every land and most air animals from Earth. Most flying animals need to land on land much more often than every 40 days, so they`d need to be on it too. Plus food and, much worse, drinking water. For all of them. Even assuming that God teleported the animals to the ark, because they certainly couldn`t have got there any other way.

    Then there`s the people problem - there`s no way the human race could have flourished from just the people mentioned (Noah, his wife, his sons and their wives). Even ignoring the glaring problem of incest being a bit of an issue in reproduction.

    The only way it could work is if the ark was a spaceship and the animals (plus a lot more people) were stored as genetic samples and somehow recreated after landing."

    all right... we get it, you`re an atheist

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    KnightRockr Male 18-29
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    January 11, 2009 at 8:11 pm
    all i can say is...... it was only a matter of time
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    sixclaws13 Male 18-29
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    January 11, 2009 at 8:29 pm
    That`s pretty cool, I`d like to go see it. Maybe this summer.
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    kdawg Male 40-49
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    January 11, 2009 at 9:30 pm
    I could not fit in a baby carseat right now, that means I was never in one. hehe, atheists try so hard and yet fail with every argument. Most animals don`t start off being full grown.
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    SilverThread Male 30-39
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    January 11, 2009 at 9:47 pm
    I`m gonna guess the Flooding was a result of Deforestation caused by Building a Huge Wooden Boat.
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    alfietoon Male 18-29
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    January 11, 2009 at 10:41 pm
    thats really cool :D. when i first saw it i thought it should become a modern flat :D
  33. Profile photo of QueenZira
    QueenZira Female 18-29
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    January 11, 2009 at 11:00 pm
    Why Noah`s Ark is a complete FAIL...

    Reality FTW

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    Shisi Male 18-29
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    January 11, 2009 at 11:11 pm
    Not sure if that`s big enough for two of each creature, and their egos.
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    11Volcom11 Male 18-29
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    January 11, 2009 at 11:19 pm
    ok, now lets try and fit a male and female of every species of animal on that boat.

    oh theres not enough room? Way to go bible, you must have given the wrong measurements.

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    11Volcom11 Male 18-29
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    January 11, 2009 at 11:24 pm
    "I could not fit in a baby carseat right now, that means I was never in one. hehe, atheists try so hard and yet fail with every argument. Most animals don`t start off being full grown."

    uhh what? im atheist and i know that i use to be small enough to fit in one. sooo... i guess its kinda you who failed with your argument huh?

  37. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    January 12, 2009 at 12:08 am
    "all right... we get it, you`re an atheist"

    mooogandi, thanks for the laugh. You quoted an entire post close to the size limit and added a meaningless 8 word reply that utterly fails to address any of it.

    You don`t get it. That`s very clear.

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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    January 12, 2009 at 12:31 am
    "Angil, what`s Toba? *googles*"

    To save other people having to do so: Toba was a "supervolcano", the silly name given to things that aren`t what most people would think of as volcanos.

    Imagine getting a tough metal container, putting some water in it, welding it closed and then putting it on a fire. The steam inside it will eventually create enough pressure to burst it violently. "Supervolcanos" are like that, but bigger. Bigger in the same way that a star is bigger than a candle.

    There`s a scale for volcanic eruptions/explosions. "supervolcanos" are so far off the scale that they had to tack extra numbers on the end and they ran out of words to describe the power of the eruption, so they are officially classed as VEI 8 "Mega-colossal". Seriously - "mega-colossal" is the real rating.

    In a more familiar rating, Toba is estimated to have been an explosion of about a teraton. About 70 million times as bad as the

  39. Profile photo of boredfjord
    boredfjord Male 13-17
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    January 12, 2009 at 12:45 am
    Well, now we can prove the Bible wrong by seeing how many species we can fit in the ark, and destroy the literal interpretation of this bullpoo forever.

    "I could not fit in a baby carseat right now, that means I was never in one. hehe, atheists try so hard and yet fail with every argument. Most animals don`t start off being full grown."

    ...and this is why, even if we prove it wouldn`t work, people would still believe it. This is the stupidity with which rationalists must contend.

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    Devi3000 Female 18-29
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    January 12, 2009 at 2:47 am
    That is freaking AWESOME!
  41. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    January 12, 2009 at 5:13 am
    Wikipedia tells me there are 5400 species of mammal in the world. 120 of those are marine mammals, so that`s 5380 land-based mammal species.

    The ark as described has a volume of 40,000 m³.

    So per animal (two of every kind = 10,760 animals), there would be 3.7m³ of space.

    But wait, there are 8225 reptile species. So now our total number of animals is 27210. So that`s now 1.47m³ per animal.

    Then there are amphibians. 6347. Our number of animals is now 39904. 1.002m³ per animal now.

    334 marsupial species. 40572 animals. 0.98m³ per animal.

    And that`s not even counting insect species (of which there are aproximately 30 MILLION species) and bird species (10,000 species, most of which require land). Nor does it count freshwater fish. Nor does it count the FOOD required by all these animals.

    I would ask how any right-minded person could beleive the Ark story, but then...right-minded people don`t.

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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    January 12, 2009 at 5:20 am
    As for why the flood story appears in so many cultures, this is a good bet in my eyes:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_d...

    Major flood, check.
    Evidence of destroyed ancient settlements, check.
    Location that suggests displaced peoples will have dispersed out to all corners of the old world, carrying the flood story, and later the myth, with them, check.

  43. Profile photo of FecesinVCR
    FecesinVCR Male 18-29
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    January 12, 2009 at 8:16 am
    Oh yeah, you could totally fit 3 million+ animals on that thing.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    January 12, 2009 at 12:38 pm
    Musuko42: It`s far worse than you decribe, for these reasons:

    There were up to 14 of each animal, not 2.
    You need to go further than species, because creationists also deny evolution. So you need far more than the 60,000 animals (not including insects) that you refer to.
    The gases from the animals would probably be fatal. The ark as described doesn`t have anything like adequate ventilation systems.
    You mention food, which would be an insurmountable problem in itself (e.g. many animals require fresh plants - where were they grown?) but you don`t mention drinking water. For at least a couple of hundred thousand animals.
    Where does the urine and faeces from the animals below deck go?
    How can 8 people tend all those animals?
    The animals would need exercise space, so the ark would have to be far bigger yet again.
    Although 8 people couldn`t exercise that many animals anyway.

    It`s all total rubbish in so many ways.

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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    January 12, 2009 at 12:40 pm
    I forgot a key point:

    You also need to have all the extinct animals on board as well, because creationists say that all fossil records date from the flood too (and that the entire Earth is only about 6000 years old anyway).

    There`s even more bovine excrement in these people`s arguments than there would be after a year in an ark.

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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    January 12, 2009 at 12:44 pm
    Off the top of my head, other problems include:

    A wooden boat that large can`t stay afloat even in the calmest waters.
    There is no evidence of a *global* flood, and there would be plenty if it had happened.

    Although you could argue that god kept the ark afloat and watertight with psychokinesis and erased all the evidence of a *global* flood afterwards. For some reason.

  47. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    January 12, 2009 at 1:37 pm
    Goes to show, doesn`t it Angilion? I massively understated the problem, and it still didn`t make sense even then. When you think even closer, like you did, the insanity of thinking this was real becomes even more pronounced.
  48. Profile photo of FecesinVCR
    FecesinVCR Male 18-29
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    January 12, 2009 at 1:47 pm
    To take the story of Noah`s Ark literally is to miss the point of the story. Silly religious bibble thumpers. Watch out! The world is supposed to end in 2012! Oh wait, it was (predicted) to end hundreds if not thousands of times before... We are still here... You never know, the 1563rd times a charm!

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