State Silences Young Guitarist

Submitted by: Kim... 8 years ago

8-year old Tallan "T-Man" Latz is unable to play his guitar in clubs that serve liquor because of Wisconsin laws.
There are 73 comments:
Male 244
This happened very near to me. Cool.

Also, let the kid play. The law isn`t about having the kid play in *bars* (if it were, everyone under 21 ought to be banned) or even having the kid drink -- which, as the father pointed out, is actually legal in the state of Wisconsin as long as the minor stays around the parent until the final effects of alcohol. Its about child labor, which, I believe, in this case is being superfluously enforced; child labor laws are meant to discourage just that: child labor. Feel free to disagree, but the kid is doing something he loves, and in the process saving money for his college, I see this only as a positive thing, and don`t see a whole lot of labor involved -- the law is, to put it quite bluntly, stupid.

I`d like to see the kid just cross the border down to Illinois.

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Male 2,553
boomstick, kids don`t have rights to begin with.
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Male 360
I bet he rocks at Guitar Hero.
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Male 42
wow boom stick...that was actually one of the better arguements ive ever read on i am bored
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Female 231
This kid is definately playing the blues and he`s amazing, dumbasses.
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Male 122
"He should play
he`s good"

Get out your magic marker cooldevil...

I have a 10 year-old son. I let him drive my car on quiet back roads Sunday afternoons. He`s good at it. Does that mean he should be issued a driver`s licence?

My dog is good at knocking over garbage cans and tearing apart the contents. Should my neighbour therefore have to permit it?

My sister`s ex husband is pretty good at smacking her and her kids around. I guess we should all just smile and encourage him as he does it.

Here`s a newsflash for you... society has rules. People should follow them. Children especially should be shown that following the rules is necessary and expected. That`s what makes kids grow up to be responsible adults with good jobs instead of idiots who spend their days exercising in "the yard" and raping their fellow convicts in the laundry room.

Please cooldevil don`t ever procreate.

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Female 11
I`d like to know what law makes it "legal" for a parent to provide alcohol to an 8 year old in Wisconsin. Anyone know? I think Dad`s full of it. And this kid should be doing kid things, not playing in bars, I don`t care how good he is.
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Male 144
anyone else think mommy and daddy are living vicariously through this poor kid? Like he gets punished if he doesn`t practice till his fingers bleed?

As for his dad`s argument, sorry pal... your son is allowed to express himself, anywhere alcohol is not served and as long as he doesn`t play for profit. There are child labor laws for a reason.

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Male 1,226
OK lol he`s either gonna go drug addict or we`ve just found new member for Dragonfocre? I mean what he`s playing is definitely not blues...
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Male 650
who said life is fair? Plus, i can see the heroin addict in him already.
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Male 3,412
I didn`t actually read or watch the video, but I don`t think he should play at bars, and clubs that have a 21 year old+ atmosphere, not even at an 18 year old+ atmosphere.

Nowadays kids are too "impressionable".
But if a bar that`s open for any age before a certain hour, a lot are like that where I am, then he should be able to play, because it doesn`t have the 21 year old+ atmosphere.

Just my opinion, and I don`t think that kids are impressionable as some make them out to be, rather they are impressionable on how their parents teach them, i.e. letting him go to the bars during `adult` times.

But those are just my opinions.

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Male 2
He should play

he`s good

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Male 286
see a lot of people for some reason said that he shouldn`t be breaking the law just because he is good.

To these people did you not watch the whole video? The dad said when this problem was brought to their attention he canceled all of his sons bookings at the place just because he doesn`t want to install that value into his kid.

To the people who say he shouldn`t be in a bar.

Also if you watch the video his kid could legally be in a bar and DRINK ALCOHOL at that age as long as his dad is with him and gives him the alcohol(with the way the laws are written apparently) but yet the kid cant play his guitar? that`s kinda stupid.

To the people who said he shouldn`t be out at all hour`s. Who says he is out till midnight? Ive went to concerts and saw opening bands that were off at 7-8pm. Ive even seen headliner bands due to the fact that they had to go some place was done at 7-8 pm. so he could schedule shows to where he is home in plenty of time.

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Male 712
Rennaisance Festivals are full of drunk people from the beer gardens. Let`s outlaw jousting and strength tests next.

I can`t side with the law on this one. How many people do you know actually "work" a guitar. He`s getting paid to "Play" and that`s what children do naturally.

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Male 599
he shouldnt be playing then, work laws
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Male 17
The places where hes playing may be full of drunk people all the time but this is giving him a chance to do what he loves. His dad is always with him when hes playing at the bars so i dont see a problem with him playing there. And i dont think that anyone would harm the kid while hes performing because im sure that people would obviously step in and stop anything from happening.

I hate laws.

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Female 354
I`m going to have to side with the law on this one. I know it`s his dream and all but we dont want to see another new report on him saying he was beat up in a bar fight cuz someone didn`t like his song. Dont worry kid, your time will come
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Male 2,510
Meh the places serve alcohol, and there full of drunk people, not really ht eplace for an 8 year old, go figure.
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Male 807
Where`s Jesse Jackson when you need him?
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Male 132
im a guitar player for going on 10 years. he has better chops than most people i play with.

obey the law kid. it may be crappy, but your time will come.

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Male 1,289
Ahaha! The kid can play for his age!
The law is correct though, he shouldn`t be able to play in those places just yet!
Give him another decade or so and we`ll be hearing about him!
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Male 248
Watch the video again, and this time focus on his facial expressions and the way he says it`s his dream. Take notice of how forced and unnatural they look.

His parents are obviously holding cue cards behind the camera.

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Male 272
that kid can play guitar. i cant even whistle.
i got teh blues.
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Male 1
thats just terrible. he should play, its what he wants to do, isnt it??? he kind of reminds me of myself when i was his age.
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Male 719
"I cant believe that they won`t let him play! that[`]s redicul[ou]s! and i do agree that blues comes from the so[u]l but the kid obviously has a talent for playing guitar so why not let him?"

I have a talent for drinking whiskey, but it`s illegal for me to display my talent in Chuck-E-Cheese.

Oh, and my talent does come from the heart, you can tell.

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Male 4,746
As a pro musician I can say that he may not be as good as an adult, but he is amazing for an 8 year old. Give him a few more years and you`ll be hearing about him.

As for the law, it is what it is. Legally, he cannot play in a bar because it`s illegal for a kid his age to play in a bar. He should stick to the outdoor gigs etc. and keep on working at it.

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Male 2,245
i thought how he played showed a surprising feel for the music for someone at his age, maybe somehow he already understands the blues.
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Male 4,867
yeah basketkase thats what i thought :P
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Male 1,825
he can play guitar well, but he aint got no blues, he aint got no heartbreak to make him play
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Male 1,182
the way he plays makes me laugh it looks like he has epilepsy.
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Male 2,245
wow, amazing, this may sound cruel, but i can`t wait for him to get his heart broken. this kid should just continue to practice and blow them away when he can play legally, or just rip it up on the streets. and fatcam you`re a douche, of course he`s emulating his influences, give an eight year old some time. idiot.
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Male 2,076
people are douchebags...this is proof all right
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Male 45
if u play guitar and the blues you would understand that.
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Male 108
Dicks! All of `em dicks!
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Male 45
amazing for his age but the blues are about making your own riffs and that all sounds taught
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Male 68
kid`s got a lot of potential - im not to sure about how his parents played a role in getting him to play guitar, but if he really wants to do it then awesome.
Child prodigies don`t play from the soul, but no one develops a unique tone, sound quality, and playing style without having talent first.

oh and hell yea i love seeing wisconsin references! woot for no drinking age if your with your parents!

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Male 506
His BOOKING AGENT LOOKS LIKE JENNIFER ANISTON.

no joke

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Female 5
I cant believe that they won`t let him play! thats rediculas! and i do agree that blues comes from the soal but the kid obviously has a talent for playing guitar so why not let him? i hope he gets justice and gets to play again and til then you never know he may get to the point where he does play from the soul
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Male 221
I agree with Sathon, ive been playing the guitar since i was 7; after picking up my dads acoustic and falling in love with it. I`m completely self-taught and to me, the riffs that he`s playing sounds completely forced, when you play blues, you dont think about whats to be played next. You just play it.
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Male 3,057
At the risk of sounding like a complete curmudgeon, it`s really not hard to play blues riffs... And every town with a population of more than 50,000 has it`s share of crappy blues bands... The reason there are so many blues bands, is because the blues are easy to play.
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Male 112
I am with Sathon, as you can really tell if the kid is playing music from the heart, or from the memory. There is a completely different tone and feel to it.
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Male 248
ElDavo, as a musician, I have a firm opinion against child prodigies. No 5-year-old just picks up a guitar and starts screaming out metallica riffs. Their parents play a big role in pushing them to play music.

There are two ways to develop skill on an instrument. One way is to have a natural talent with and love for playing, and developing it yourself through practice. The other is to have your parents jam it down your throat when you`re 5 to the point where you give up and let yourself become brainwashed about the fact that this is what you want to do.

In addition, I can tell by the tone of the music that he`s playing from his memory, not his soul.

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Male 2,148
Sathon, you`re a douchebag. You`re correct about the no exceptions thing, but seriously? What in Zoroastrian`s name do you think blues really comes from the soul and a eight-year-old just can`t play it? That`s plain ignorant, man.
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Male 1,386
... how did this make the news?
"This just in. 8 year olds still not allowed in nightclubs." :-|
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Female 305
wisconsin represent! wootage. and thats weird cuz i was part of a band that played in bars and i never got hassled by the bouncers even tho i was 16
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Female 15,763
Laws needn`t be broken for him. I couldn`t DJ in a club that served alcohol.

I don`t understand how his guitar talent makes him better than the law.

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Male 248
On a more positive note, it`s nice to see a "child prodigy" that`s not Asian for once.
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Male 248
He`s not playing Blues, he`s playing what his parents have been forcing him to practice for hours every day so that they can experience the 15 seconds of fame they never got when they were kids. Believe me, to trained ears, there`s a difference. Blues comes from the soul, not the fingers.

And he shouldn`t be allowed to break rules just because he can play the guitar. If every other 8 year old is not allowed into night clubs, I don`t see any reason to make an exception for some "child prodigy."

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Male 928
Bullshiiit!

I think Tallan is a cooler name than T-man. The the T-noun thing has already been done by T-bone anyways.

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Female 1,545
And...sorry for double post, but that kid has great talent!!!
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Female 1,545
Cahalla, Jackson 5 was probably before child endangerment laws, and Hannah Montana doesn`t perform in night clubs.

BoomStick got it right. I`m all for the kid playing and living his dream, but until he`s 16, there`s no reason he needs to be in nightclubs. He can play elsewhere.

Think about this for a second. 8-year-old kids need lots of sleep, and they shouldn`t be spending those precious formative hours in a nightclub till midnight every Wednesday night.

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Male 544
so what in my state u must be 21 to even go into liqueur stores PEOPLE STEAL U KNOW
so its likely to assume monkey see monkey do as well
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Male 85
He`s 8 and he has like 5 guitars.
I don`t tend to look at age in order to wow me.
He has been playing for 3 years for like 5 hours a day.

Yeah, anyone who does that will be just as good if not better than he is, so I don`t see why everyone gets all in a craze because he is 8 years old...

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Male 1,835
i thought they were going to take his guitars away or crush his fingers or something.
he just needs to put out CDs and play on the street.
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Female 231
This kid is clearly an epic blues performer reincarnated or some poo, I mean wow.
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Male 122
On second thought, maybe someone else should do the writing... since anyone that stupid is likely illiterate.
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Female 961
Aww, and he`s really good. I mean, where is the line drawn where people like Hannah Montana (Miley Cyrus) can perform, but good down home self taught performers can`t play. Or a better example? The Jackson 5, since they sang in clubs and restaraunts. I mean, not all young child performers perform in sold out arenas and concert halls
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Male 122
Um... good?

Classic example of a catch-22 situation - or at least someone trying to make it so. If you go on record approving of an eight-year-old`s presence in a bar you`re endangering a minor. If you keep him out, you`re stiffling his creativity, and probably stealing his candy while you`re at it.

Here`s a newsflash for you. 8 year old kids shouldn`t be in nightclubs. They should be at home sleeping. They also can`t drive cars, perform brain surgery, cut my hair, date grandmothers or pilot aircraft.

Anybody who thinks otherwise should be prevented from any ever becoming a parent. And they should have to write the word dumbass on their forehead in marker before they leave the house each day.

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Male 311
whats new?
and "silences" is abit dramatic dont ya think ?
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Male 1,225
There was a conversation on Digg about this involving how he can`t play in the bar, but if his dad is with him, he can drink a beer. I was flaborgasted until more people claimed their state had a similar law. I knew it was common in other countries, but not in the states.

But it`s all a moot point because I`m turning 22 in a week.

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Male 3,425
Blues? I would`a banned him.
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Male 3,255
Isn`t this how it has been since... um... ALWAYS? What`s so noteworthy about it? It does kinda suck though. You`d think, in an intelligent society, they would let him play and just, I don`t know, NOT SERVE HIM ALCOHOL?!!? lol
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Male 357
Rock is blues. He is playing blues licks, which is what Hendrix and all the other rock guitarists play.

Blues is the basis for most modern styles of music, country, rock, heavy metal, reggae, bluegrass...it`s all got blues in it.

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Female 553
That`s like laws in most states. Such is why I cross from Indiana to Illinois to go into bars to play trivia. Sucks to be the kid whose state blue laws keep him from doing this.
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Male 2,388
those are hendrix songs I think. And that rock not blues right? Im impressed
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Male 11
this actually happened to me. I`m 13 and i play gigs at clubs and stuff and they`re trying to make it so i can`t. it REALLY pisses me off and because of it i will play better.
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Male 483
he`s good at guitar and everything but his style of blue seems slightly messy for my liking.

those laws preventing him from playing are just plain stupid.

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Female 751
that kids ROCKS, I would move out of WI, and tell them to drat off!
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Male 516
Some people need to take US history again.
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Male 357
These hardships will help him play the blues better.

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Female 471
aww jelousy is a horrible thing :(
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Male 2,958
I don`t see the problem.
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Female 539
Link: State Silences Young Guitarist [Rate Link] - 8-year old Tallan `T-Man` Latz is unable to play his guitar in clubs that serve liquor because of Wisconsin laws.
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