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Agreed - and this is exactly why. A neck injury can turn someone into a paraplegic for life if the situation isn`t handled correctly. Everybody wants to be the hero, even though the correct thing to do would be to wait until a paramedic can arrive and immobilize the head. Hero-girl`s stupid, lame excuse was "she thought the car was going to explode" - like in some sorry old movie where the cars always burst into flames after every wreck, right? Blame it on the movies? She should know better.
what a bitch...
This IS in California, though, so I don`t know.
And now I thank god that none of us had to be pulled out. :|
You`re dumb, and I`m serious, YOU`RE dumb.
It`s just like how they say if you need to shoot a bugler in your home in self defense, kill them. If not, they can sue you for their injuries. How screwed up is that?!
No. No they don`t. Allow me to break down possible scenarios here:
1) She thought she was helping. 2) She thought, meh, what the hell, she looks fine, she`ll prolly be fine, but I`ll drag her out of the car for no reason. 3) She thought muahahaha I bet she`ll be paraplegic after this.
Out of those, which is the most likely?
Look at what you`re doing America, we`re not allowed to help you until you`re almost dead. All because of people like this.
I don`t think she should be suing, but they didn`t give enough information. I want to know what happened to the driver and were there flames? they didn`t say if flames were or were not there. Of course if there were flames this very skewed news report probably would have mentioned it.
If the car was on fire, she wouldn`t have been sued no matter how she pulled her out. If she needed immediate medical attention (such as unable to breathe) and it was impossible to render in the car, she could have pulled her out as well. This case doesn`t change any of that and those would still be protected.
Fault for paralysis isn`t decided yet, so I`m not saying that was her fault. Just saying, good samaritan laws still stand and still protect people who try to help. But it doesn`t, nor should it protect negligent actions.
This is a travesty of American Justice and yes "basketkase" someone will be sued or worse die because of this.
Before you move anyone you should do the following
Turn the car off. Remove the battery.Check for hazards.
YOU LEAVE THE REMOVAL OF THE PERSON TO THE MEDICS. Unless there is a serious chance of fire, or something like that.
the American red cross suggests pulling someone out of a dangerous situation by dragging them by the shirt which is most likely how this women did it.
what a skank
Something I don`t believe anyone`s touched on: In a situation like a serious car accident, not all of us have EMS training. You know not to move the body, so do I -- in a situation like this where we`re worried, we`re not trained to stay calm, we may do things we otherwise wouldn`t, things we learned not to do for the sake of good samaritanship.
good God, some people really are arent they?
Oh my God! I can`t believe what I see. All you high and mighty Europeans should stop the circle jerk for a second and read these articles. It happens all over the world.
-Note I`m only addressing the `high and mighty Europeans`. I actually understand that a small sample of a group of people doesn`t represent how the rest act.
But with what I`ve learned, one thing I do know is that you should never move an unconscious person like that, ESPECIALLY if you suspect a neck injury. Just doing it like a ragdoll is bad enough.
It`s hard to pin the blame on this one, but the woman who pulled the other woman from the car did act negligently. And explosions? Nonsense.
First of all if the injured lady had broken her back or neck then, yes, it was the action of moving her that caused the paralysis, not the accident.
Secondly, cars rarely catch fire after an accident. The `rescuer` would have been far better turning off the engine. And only move her as a last resort, like there were flames coming licking the gas tank.
Sounds to me like she got a bit hysterical after witnessing the accident and made things a whole lot worse.
So kids. Turn off the ignition, get into the back seat of the car, and support the injured person`s neck until the emergency services arrive.
Shoulda let her burn...
But maybe I`m just weird like that?
The other thing to remember is that most of these cases it`s just about insurance. Her lawyer is probably trying to get as many people as possible to be liable so she can recover from their insurance. There have been cases where children sue their parents just so that they can collect the insurance money. It`s no hard feelings, but sometimes that`s the only way to get the money. In those cases it`s really the insurance company fighting the case.
I think that the girl apparently pulled the other one from the car was probably in a panic at the time. I know that if I saw a friend of mine hit a pole, I wouldn`t be rationally considering how to approach the situation, I`d be running over, asking if she was all right, and trying to get her safe. I`ve been in a similar situation.
I don`t think, unless the girl already had a broken back or neck from the crash, that a single person trying to pull her from the car would cause her paralysis.
So, I guess what I`m saying is the media sucks, and both people prolly don`t remember the event exactly as it happened, and like has been said already in the comments, the paralyzed one wants someone or something to blame.
Exactly what I was thinking."
Not what I was thinking but I agree 100%
Thus leading to a case of rather than trying to help people, instead we`ll all be weighing up whether helping or not helping will be less harmful to us, instead of just diving in to try and save someone`s life.
As for the "why did she think the car might explode" stuff, ever thought she may have seen the crash, and just immediately pulled up, jumped from the car and immediately pulled the person from their car regardless, just to be damned sure. Quite often people will just act on instinct in those situations.
The lawsuit isn`t that bad, but sueing is kinda harsh. Maybe staying angry at the person and then letting it cool over for a good few weeks would be more appropriate <_<
Come to think about it, all Americans do is sue.
Exactly what I was thinking.
And it is incredibly stupid to pull someone who might have a spinal injury from a car by yourself if you don`t have any medical training. She should have called the drating ambulance.
Most of you are flipping your poo about this, and you don`t even know the whole story. Chill.
Having that said, why did the woman think the car was going to explode? It was just wrecked, not like.. on fire..
he is right you know
Not quite true. If the victim is unconscious, you should get him/her in the recovery position. If the victim is not breathing and/or the heart is not beating you do CPR. If the person is unconscious, there is an imminent danger because the person might suffocate if he/she is not in the correct position.
Although we don`t need stupid people trying to help and making it worse.
"hey julie up for jogging?"
I guess the moral of the story is to not follow people that run into poles.
Yeah, I`ll shut up now.
Common sence should be more common.
this makes sense, I promise
That`s why I don`t have friends. And if I see someone`s dumbass in a car accident, I keep driving. drat trying to help you when you would GLADLY turn around and drat me over.
People are non-nice individuals.