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Date: 12/21/08 03:01 AM

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    mylostdog Female 18-29
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    December 20, 2008 at 7:53 pm
    Link: Child Commits Suicide While In School `Seclusion` - Seclusion Room in the boy`s north Georgia special education school was something akin to a prison cell.
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    sarahxoxo Female 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 3:06 am
    How sad.

    Why exactly would a special ed school need a "seclusion room" in the first place?

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    iamboredtooo Male 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 3:08 am

    American society is sick. Really sick.

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    Asspenny Male 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 3:32 am
    depressing.
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    Scotchy Male 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 3:46 am
    Before I start on my little rant, I do understand how bad the situation is, and stupid negligence caused this child to die.

    What bothers me, is just because it was USA everyone begins to jump on the bandwagon "OMFG (bad comment) American society" but these are the same people that criticize us for being stereotypical people as well. Bunch of hypocrites. The funny thing is if anything bad ever happened to Europe or wherever else, you all are strangely silent. If you would like, I can start listing all your faults as well, just to show how little difference between us there is.

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    Scotchy Male 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 3:57 am
    3 seconds of looking and I already got this:

    "Greek police have again clashed with demonstrators in Athens, two weeks after the fatal shooting of a teenager by police sparked nationwide unrest."

    I can keep going maybe? :)

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    BeachBum0694 Female 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 4:03 am
    since when did schools start becoming akin to prisons? Its so sick. They lock up my school at like 1:30, 15 mins. after school gets out so that not even the teachers can go anywhere. I thought we were innocent until proven guilty.
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    quack_stud Male 13-17
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    December 21, 2008 at 4:30 am
    I just looked in to this and what`s worse is that the school he went to is a special ed school. Why would anybody put anyone else let alone a little kid with special needs inside a "prison cell" on his own?
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    kikij Female 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 5:08 am
    Those poor parents, that poor child. Absolutely tragic, society isn`t to blame, those bloody moronic teachers are.
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    makkaal Male 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 5:08 am

    "If you would like, I can start listing all your faults as well, just to show how little difference between us there is."
    I hate that as well. I tend to get irate when I find out that the ones criticizing have never actually spent time to at least fake interest in the other continent. Many Americans claim bullcrap about Europe without ever having left the US borders, same the other way around - Europeans like to think they know everything about the US from TV and movies.
    I`ve lived on both sides of the world for a while and I can tell you with certainty:
    We`re all equally imbeciles.

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    MORNAF1 Male 13-17
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    December 21, 2008 at 5:10 am
    terrible that the kid died, truly terrible.

    but
    1) i imagine that the "seclusion" room is like ISS in schools near where i live, of course, there is a teacher with the person.

    2) as to the reason they gave him a rope, i doubt that anyone would think that a CHILD would kill himself, for the simple reason children always seem so happy.

    3) remember something, the teacher probably just lost his/her job. and he/she will have to live with the fact that she gave that boy rope.

    4) go Scotchy, you get to continuea thumbs

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    jimbobsthebe Male 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 5:14 am
    Scotchy,

    I can only comment from the perspective of a British person but America does seem to be pretty irresponsible at times. It`s not as if other countries aren`t just as bad but at the same time most other countries don`t seem to share the "America f*** yeah" view of themselves.

    Your country and it`s people (of course not everyone) seems to constantly boast about how America is better then everywhere else and so it`s bound to receive criticism when something goes wrong.

    Your country also seems to allow for a lot of extremities (fundamental religious believers, everything has to be the biggest, ridiculously harsh drug laws, legal fire arms) which also makes it an easy target for ridicule.

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    MORNAF1 Male 13-17
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    December 21, 2008 at 5:17 am
    "I`ve lived on both sides of the world for a while and I can tell you with certainty:
    We`re all equally imbeciles."

    hey makkaal, you have now made my favorite quote ever, mind if i use it?

    i don`t really care about what country anything happens in. i do intend to travel the world, but until then all i have the right to criticize is america,

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    MORNAF1 Male 13-17
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    December 21, 2008 at 5:23 am
    also... um... why did the teachers put him in the room, also, (im re watching it to find out) it really didn`t look like that long of a rope that they gave him... depends on the size of that door.

    but a lot of this still doesn`t make sense

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    Ivar2112 Male 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 5:25 am
    I don`t actually understand why he commited suicide, sorry, maybe I`m stupid.
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    cookii Female 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 5:49 am
    This is sad, but I really don`t think it could have been expected, you can`t think that a seemingly happy child would commit suicide.
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    quaintness Male 13-17
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    December 21, 2008 at 6:00 am
    I`ve never heard of a suicidal 7 year old, but then what do I know?
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    reDonkulous Male 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 6:17 am
    thats crazy did they pay a janitor to chip the paint on the door like that? and MORN, they said he was a really small kid, he could have just sat down and let it choke him
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    makkaal Male 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 6:20 am
    MORNAF1, go ahead. I`m actually flattered somebody likes that mental diarrhea I excrete sometimes.
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    WHOISIT12345 Male 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 6:39 am
    damm that suck!!! but i understand kid cause school
    and high school think the kids are slaves or something and they tacher think they do what they to those kids!
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    onemulti Male 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 6:47 am
    You see,WHOISIT12345, the key to being taken seriously, is you at least make an effort to spell right, and not drat syntax to hell.
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    bluethen Male 13-17
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    December 21, 2008 at 6:52 am
    "damm that suck!!! but i understand kid cause school
    and high school think the kids are slaves or something and they tacher think they do what they to those kids!"

    I`m sure you`d understand better if you`ve ever been to school before.

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    Lynea Female 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 6:53 am
    Lots of questions about this one.

    1. How did he even know how to make a noose?

    2. Suicidal seven year old? He had to have some serious problems.

    3. Why do they even have a time out room in a special ed school?

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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 6:57 am
    "1. How did he even know how to make a noose?"

    I was going to ask that.

    "What bothers me, is just because it was USA everyone begins to jump on the bandwagon "OMFG (bad comment) American society""

    In just another link (the father humiliates son) I found 2 incredibly...how do I phrase this... not the sharpest crayon in the box posters and they were both european. I didnt take their views as a representation of Europe itself.

    " I thought we were innocent until proven guilty."

    Dont send in your W-2 to the IRS and see if that still applies

    "Your country also seems to allow for a lot of extremities (fundamental religious believers, everything has to be the biggest, ridiculously harsh drug laws, legal fire arms) which also makes it an easy target for ridicule."

    You had me until legal fire arms

    "I`m sure you`d understand better if you`ve ever been to school before."
    PWNED!!!11

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    mypreciousss Female 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 7:07 am
    well see it IS north georgia and since i live right on the ga/tn line, i could see something like this happening. by the way, the south breeds suicidal seven year olds.
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    teph2112 Male 13-17
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    December 21, 2008 at 7:22 am
    So they ban beatings but still allow jail cells?
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    caboose117 Male 13-17
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    December 21, 2008 at 7:38 am
    "Your country also seems to allow for a lot of extremities (fundamental religious believers, everything has to be the biggest, ridiculously harsh drug laws, legal fire arms) which also makes it an easy target for ridicule."

    Legal firearms are only the case to break from the tyranny of King George III. They did not want an absolutist government, something very commonplace at the time, but rather they felt they were part of the "enlightened" areas of society, and salutary neglect also played largely in this. Pretty much, they wanted some autonomy, and things like militia are necessary to create a balance in powers.

    Religious extremism? only reason why it happens is because of religious tolerance.

    also, having stronger gun control laws only means more OC. Look at what happens in korea, you have gangs beating people to death with clubs and chains. Would you rather get shot in the head and die, or get beaten to a pulp and left to bleed to death?

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    L_Peter Male 13-17
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    December 21, 2008 at 8:11 am
    1. How did he even know how to make a noose?

    I don`t think he would need to know how to make a noose to hang himself. Obviously that would be the ideal knot to hang yourself with, but I imagine it can be done with other, more well known, and less sinister knots.

    2. Suicidal seven year old? He had to have some serious problems.

    Yeah that is really disturbing. Although, since he was ony seven, and in special ed(mentally slow?), maybe he didn`t fully understand what he was doing. He probably was pissed to be in the room, and thought `Well I`ll show them`. He probably wasn`t so sad to be in there that he just had to kill himself. The dad sounded pretty nice, so I don`t think it was a problem at home that made him want to do that.

    3. Why do they even have a time out room in a special ed school?

    Yeah, this is just dumb. They probably shouldn`t have a room like that, and if they do, someone needs to know what the kid is up to in there. In any event, I hope they got rid of it.

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    MORNAF1 Male 13-17
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    December 21, 2008 at 8:14 am
    "Your country also seems to allow for a lot of extremities (fundamental religious believers, everything has to be the biggest, ridiculously harsh drug laws, legal fire arms) which also makes it an easy target for ridicule."

    good statement, i agree with that except for the legal fire arms. i live in rural tennessee and if the government tried to take away the people`s guns in this area, there would literally be another civil war. people around here get really defensive about their guns.
    i have a gun, muzzle loader, im a decent shot, use it for hunting/entertainment, and i actually agree...

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    buttersisluv Female 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 8:15 am
    That school should be closed for allowing something like that to happen, and fo raising children in such an enviroment.
    I`m disgusted.


    Also, it wasn`t a noose. Look at the rope. It`s just a knot. Most seven-year-olds can tie knots.

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    theHUSHSOUND Female 13-17
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    December 21, 2008 at 8:16 am
    I smell something fishy. a 7-year-old committing suicide with a belt-rope? Nice story.... I think something else happened. Don`t know what, but something else.
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    musicbuff530 Female 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 8:26 am
    "I smell something fishy. a 7-year-old committing suicide with a belt-rope? Nice story.... I think something else happened. Don`t know what, but something else"


    agreed....

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    warlockweb Male 30-39
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    December 21, 2008 at 8:47 am
    School should be charged with some kind of criminal negligence causing death.
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    Skyira Female 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 9:11 am
    its schools like that makes me lose all hope for society and want to home school my future children or send them to a boarding school in a different country.
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    speedy_3909 Male 13-17
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    December 21, 2008 at 9:14 am
    Poor father i would be so mad at that school if i were him.
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    gorgack2000 Male 13-17
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    December 21, 2008 at 9:21 am
    This case is a good argument on why we shouldn`t expose things like suicide to children too early.
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    gorgack2000 Male 13-17
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    December 21, 2008 at 9:27 am
    "Legal firearms are only the case to break from the tyranny of King George III."
    I think you read an exaggerated version of the history of the American revolution. I mean come on, tyranny? You were paying 1/20th of the tax the English were forking out.
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    Igmo Male 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 10:00 am
    Jeez...poor father...

    Also, it turns out that he`s 13- Not as young as that one picture they showed of him in the video.
    It`s alsoStated Herethat Jonathan had ADHD and Depression.

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    ElDavo Male 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 10:03 am
    Why was this posted here? I have an idea: maybe we should post a real story, not a father speaking in broken english about something that he believes was entirely the school`s fault. I want to know what actually happened, with as many facts as are available, not this grabage of a news coverage.
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    GosuPaul Male 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 10:13 am
    "Legal firearms are only the case to break from the tyranny of King George III."


    "I think you read an exaggerated version of the history of the American revolution. I mean come on, tyranny? You were paying 1/20th of the tax the English were forking out."

    This is kind of funny because it`s America vs Britain again. Shows how skewed curriculum is in different cultures, eh ?

    Anyhow, to settle all this. The "Tyranny" set forward by the King, was only "Tyranny" in the philosophical teachings of John Locke. In an era of reason, these made the most sense so the Sons of Liberty followed them. Therefore, when George did things like taxation without representation, and also keeping a standing army and such, the Americans saw it as tyranny that had to be put down.

    But, the thing is, Britain never agreed to follow said philosophies. It wasn`t their creed, so to them, everything was howdy doody. The Americans didn`t have a good reason NOT to pay

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    DHise Male 13-17
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    December 21, 2008 at 10:23 am
    We had a seclusion room at my old school.
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    Nidonemo Male 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 10:37 am
    Guys, this isn`t about the 2nd amendment. Go argue that elsewhere. A kid has died. Please show an ounce of respect.
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    jar-head Male 13-17
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    December 21, 2008 at 10:42 am
    It is not the job of a father to bury his son, it is the child`s job to bury his father when the time is right.
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    idontknow951 Male 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 10:50 am
    "http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/12/17/s...

    Here`s the real story.

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    xcboy02 Male 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 10:50 am
    "I think you read an exaggerated version of the history of the American revolution. I mean come on, tyranny? You were paying 1/20th of the tax the English were forking out."

    If you really don`t think that King George was a tyrant check the Declaration of Independence. It contains an entire list of the injustices he committed. Taxation was only a small part of the reason for revolution.

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    idontknow951 Male 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 10:54 am
    http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/12/17/seclusi...
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    Red5TheFinn Male 13-17
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    December 21, 2008 at 11:05 am
    That`s pretty poopy.
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    blackbird7 Female 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 11:08 am
    That`s really messed up. Poor kid. So many things wrong with that entire scenario.
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    blackbird7 Female 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 11:13 am
    ElDavo- His english was fine, what are you talking about? Have you never heard a regional accent before? And his kid DIED, good reason to be a little upset with the school I think. Plus he never said it was entirely the schools fault. Why are you so angry about this post, anyway?
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    rmac13 Male 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 11:19 am
    Hey ElDavo, next time you talk about someone having broken English, make sure you spell "garbage" correctly...his kid died you insensitive douchebag. This is the United States, the news doesn`t give you the facts...get used to it.
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    Neagle Male 30-39
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    December 21, 2008 at 11:21 am
    The schools administration is lucky the father is level headed enough to sue rather than seek vengeance.
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    Spearman113 Male 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 11:31 am
    ElDavo, if your kid had just killed himself, and should have been and could have been stopped, im sure you wouldnt be able to talk perfectly either
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    AnwarNova Male 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 11:59 am
    eldavo = iab douche of the day folks!

    in other news, this is horribly depressing.

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    AnwarNova Male 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 12:07 pm
    so horrible, that if I were in the dads place, I`d go through as much work as possible to ind who is responsible and press criminal charges to them and the school...
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    Courtney158 Female 13-17
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    December 21, 2008 at 12:45 pm
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    opiebreath Female 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 1:26 pm
    Why wasn`t someone watching him...? I mean why leave a child alone in the first place? He`s under the school`s custody. Most schools I know of don`t let kids alone ever because of that liability issue.
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    emzie21 Female 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 1:27 pm
    the worst part is hearing the boy`s mother in the background.. just awful. I hope the school administration burn in hell
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    yoimmylene Female 13-17
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    December 21, 2008 at 1:41 pm
    Seclusion room? Wtf?
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    njs52595 Male 13-17
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    December 21, 2008 at 1:45 pm
    he hung himself because he got in trouble?
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    Dragonlord Male 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 1:54 pm
    I don`t know, I think ElDavo has a valid point. What we have here is one side of a story from someone with obvious bias. I think the broken English point is quite the ad hominem (albeit true), but the father either doesn`t have or isn`t giving all of the facts. Your average kid doesn`t go an hang himself for no reason whatsoever. The average kid doesn`t need to be given a rope because his parents won`t buy him pants that fit. And schools don`t shove children into seclusion rooms without undue reasons. There are a lot of unanswered questions from many angles, and I think that this story doesn`t really give the information needed to make any sort of real conclusion (neither does the article).
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    HornyPanda Male 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 2:29 pm
    his name is don king lol .. .. seriously though that sucks.
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    Exquisitte Male 13-17
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    December 21, 2008 at 2:34 pm
    "Seclusion room"? Did you see that door in the picture of the rope? Looked more like a prison cell to me.
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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 2:39 pm
    "I think you read an exaggerated version of the history of the American revolution. I mean come on, tyranny? You were paying 1/20th of the tax the English were forking out."

    And getting none of their rights

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    Willowpuff Female 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 3:50 pm
    God it`s rare i tear up at a video like this.
    That`s horribly sad.
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    sixclaws13 Male 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 3:52 pm
    How the f*ck did this get turned into a U.S. vs Europe debate? Have some respect people.
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    duffytoler Male 40-49
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    December 21, 2008 at 4:05 pm
    >>one side of a story
    >>schools don`t shove children into seclusion rooms without undue reasons

    Agreed. Special ed + seclusion room indicates there`s more to the story. He could have been violent and psychotic, and the school may have been dealing with the situation as best it could.

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    JJXanadu Male 30-39
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    December 21, 2008 at 4:18 pm
    >>>Agreed. Special ed + seclusion room indicates >>>there`s more to the story. He could have been >>>violent and psychotic, and the school may have >>>been dealing with the situation as best it could.

    Well, I`m an educator in NYC and I disagree. Most children who are placed in `seclusion rooms` and other such things are only placed there because the teachers/administrators are lazy and have no initiative to educate anyone who slightly deviates from the norm. `Seclusion rooms` are just excuses for people to be bad educators. It`s a shame, really.

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    MorgueDoll Female 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 5:04 pm
    seclusion room!? wtf. isnt that something like a padded cell in an asylum!? yeah thatll totally show the kid whos boss. shoving them in a room with no shoes on. drating education system.
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    jimbobsthebe Male 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 5:13 pm
    "Legal firearms are only the case to break from the tyranny of King George III."

    Fair enough, but the English used to carry out practices that are now considered ridiculous (take witch killing for example). I`m not dismissing the historical reason for the public availability of guns, I`m simply dismissing the justification for the continued selling of firearms. Bar hunting, why should somebody need a gun?

    But anyway this was never meant to be an attack on the American people. I was simply trying to share what I believe to be the reasons for people`s anger towards American values.

    But you must agree, you do have a lot of religious loons, lol.

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    Armanith Female 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 6:09 pm
    This is a very sad story. I would like to know what the child did that was so unruly for him to be sent to the seclusion room. If he was causing too much trouble, why not a trip to the principles office? the whole thing might have been avoided
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    rawr_lolz123 Female 13-17
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    December 21, 2008 at 6:20 pm
    this is sad. stupid teachers are gonna send some special ed kid to a room BY HIMSELF with a ROPE. WOW. THEY SURE SHOWED HIM. now he will start tying his pants with ropes. mmhmm. yep. >__<
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    KIKENI Female 13-17
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    December 21, 2008 at 6:22 pm
    @duffytoler
    so your telling me that you would give special ed and violent kids a long rope?
    does that make sense?
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    TheMeach Male 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 6:24 pm
    "Bar hunting, why should somebody need a gun?"

    Sadly due to that fact that they exist.

    Outlawing Guns only takes them from the hands from lawful citizens. There have been multiple cases in recent history where a society has disarmed its populous only to see its violent crime rate climb. This happens because the Criminals knew that victims were incapable of defending themselves. Guns in the American tradition are also the peoples last resort to keeping the gov`t in check. If our leaders were to ever to truly fly off the handle the American people are armed and capable of stopping it.

    "Your country also seems to allow for a lot of extremities (fundamental religious believers, everything has to be the biggest, ridiculously harsh drug laws"

    I agree on our Drug laws being Draconian but those are swift on the change.

    Of course everything has to be the biggest here. We`re American g`d Dammit.

    And yeah, Freedom of religion was never the Brit`s strong suit

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    HarlequinJ Female 13-17
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    December 21, 2008 at 6:25 pm
    BECOME AN HERO
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    PinkAndGreen Female 13-17
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    December 21, 2008 at 6:39 pm
    That`s horrible.

    The seclusion room I think I have an answer to. If it was a special ed school, then the kids who are special ed are very run off of emotions. If they get mad, they throw absolute temper tantrums.

    Our school has a special ed program, and last Friday, there had been one girl who is special ed and she threw a screaming tantrum in the hallways, throwing herself on the ground and kicking and punching at the teachers.

    So the seclusion room might be for those type of situations- where the student is being violent and they put them in the seclusion room so they can`t hurt anyone.

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    Raccoon Female 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 7:23 pm
    I don`t care what the reasoning by the school is... Locking a kid in a prison-style cell for ANY length of time will traumatize him or her! That is mental and emotional abuse!
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    Kleio Female 13-17
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    December 21, 2008 at 7:41 pm
    If it weren`t for the fact that it would take education away from the rest of the kids in the school, I`d sue them for all they`re worth. Leaving a kid in a room alone with a rope? WTF?
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    Jadesy Female 18-29
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    December 21, 2008 at 7:44 pm
    ...Wait...so...they sent him to the room because he wasn`t wearing a belt or didn`t want to...? I`m guessing that`s why they gave him the rope in the first place...Ugh..people...That school -should- be sued for all that it`s worth. No innocent child should ever have to deal with something like a `seclusion room`. :|
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    Will-O-Wisp Female 18-29
    458 posts
    December 21, 2008 at 7:49 pm
    A seclusion room would need to be padded if it were an issue regarding everyone`s safety. That was not a padded room and it /was/ strangely prison-like.

    And, how old was that kid? Why would he commit suicide in that room? How long was he supposed to have been in there?

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    je_scream Female 18-29
    761 posts
    December 21, 2008 at 8:20 pm
    That`s so sad...I can`t even nor do I want to finish watching this.
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    moefreak Female 18-29
    1963 posts
    December 21, 2008 at 8:45 pm
    This is just awful.
  82. Profile photo of AndrewST
    AndrewST Male 18-29
    181 posts
    December 21, 2008 at 9:00 pm
    About 10 years ago when my younger brother was in Kindergarten we found out that the Teacher had put him outside in the snow by himself, without his coat, as a form of "punishment" for upwards of 15 minutes at a time. She said it was because he would act up and distract the rest of the class.

    Well my family has lived in the area since what seems to be the Dawn of Time. With that comes the fact we are long time friends with the school Administration, the Teacher found herself out of her job and in the cold rather quickly!

    So to see a school putting children in what is nothing less then Solitary Confinement doesn`t surprise me. It just is very sad to see the child hung himself.

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    earthshone Male 18-29
    1688 posts
    December 21, 2008 at 9:41 pm
    I want to punch my computer.
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    KannaLilly Female 13-17
    635 posts
    December 21, 2008 at 10:13 pm
    stopped watching. Just can`t finish it.

    Lets people know what those with authority do with it, huh? I was basically locked in a hospital wing `for my safety` because I was upset when my father died, my mother didn`t speak up because `they had the right`, when they didn`t, and oddly enough, that was the only time in my life I ever considered suicide. People think their helping, but half the time their hurthing.

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    LiziBoredom Female 18-29
    25 posts
    December 21, 2008 at 10:50 pm
    I work with ED(emotionally disturbed) children. Judging by a news story on Cnn.com the child had a history of suicidal behavior. I`m going to assume that the child, was in fact ED. If there was a seclusion room the child probably was in a program for his emotional issues. This being said,the situation was grossly mishandled. The teacher(a sub)should`ve taken away the cord. There should have been close monitoring of the child. I wonder if they used calm down techniques while the child was upset. It child shouldn`t reach that level of distraught, ever. The adults should`ve been trained properly to handle such situations. In our program we have 14 kids & 5 adults that are well trained. In our school district we don`t use s. rooms ,but "non-violent restraints" only if the child is an immediate threat to themselves or others.They don`t hurt the child and are used as a last resort. We are taught how to "Talk them down" and NEVER allow a situation to escalate beyond a
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    LiziBoredom Female 18-29
    25 posts
    December 21, 2008 at 10:53 pm
    controllable situation. It hurts me to think the child was hurting that much on the inside and the adults didn`t care. I love my students as if they were my own and it sickens me to think that, that teacher didn`t love theirs the same.
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    jimbobsthebe Male 18-29
    639 posts
    December 22, 2008 at 2:56 am
    "This happens because the Criminals knew that victims were incapable of defending themselves."

    I`m sorry but I cannot disagree with this enough. How can you defend yourself with a gun? It just becomes a kill or be killed situation. That`s not self defence, that`s full blown violence.

    "If our leaders were to ever to truly fly off the handle the American people are armed and capable of stopping it."

    Again, this is the same sort of view that I believe makes a mockery of the American nation. Any respectable nation shouldn`t be in fear of it`s government. And anyway, how will a owning a gun protect the American people from it`s government? Sounds to me like it`s just the making of some seriously dangerous riots.

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    sniugnep Female 13-17
    330 posts
    December 22, 2008 at 4:55 am
    from cnn:
    A few weeks before 13-year-old Jonathan King killed himself, he told his parents that his teachers had put him in "time-out." ... But time-out in the boy`s north Georgia special education school was spent in something akin to a prison cell -- a concrete room latched from the outside, its tiny window obscured by a piece of paper. Called a seclusion room, it`s where in November 2004, Jonathan hanged himself with a cord a teacher gave him to hold up his pants.
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    makkaal Male 18-29
    123 posts
    December 22, 2008 at 5:47 am
    sniugnep:
    Classic. Do you have a source for that? An address would be nice.
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    edana42 Female 50-59
    2509 posts
    December 22, 2008 at 6:16 am
    My heart is just breaking.
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    screwzlooose Male 30-39
    385 posts
    December 22, 2008 at 6:21 am
    wow. just wow.
    i think our so called "civilization" is very close to collapse.
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    Vagrant86 Male 18-29
    2556 posts
    December 22, 2008 at 2:24 pm
    thats awful.
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    Eichenkatze Male 18-29
    780 posts
    December 22, 2008 at 3:04 pm
    screwzlooose
    Male, 18-29, Eastern US
    42 Posts Monday, December 22, 2008 6:21:20 AM
    wow. just wow.
    i think our so called "civilization" is very close to collapse.

    ----

    Lol... no... Civilization has been so much worse than it is now before.. you have nooo idea.

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    expl0it Male 13-17
    8 posts
    December 22, 2008 at 9:18 pm
    makkaal:

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/12/17/seclusi...

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    DannyDanko Male 13-17
    254 posts
    December 22, 2008 at 9:59 pm
    all of you are jackasses.

    A) drat usa vs uk thats redundant. same as the gun debate

    B) Stop only blaming the school, everyones at fault. The parents should have listened to their kid, the school shouldnt have used that kind of punnishment and the kid shouldnt have killed himself.

    BUT NONE OF THAT MATTERS. a child is dead. its not a time for blame, its time to make sure poo like this doesnt happen again. PERIOD.

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    hamisgood Male 13-17
    24 posts
    December 22, 2008 at 11:44 pm
    this probably sounds sadistic, but i sort of look forward to society caving in so we can start over and people can stop being so evil.
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    jimbobsthebe Male 18-29
    639 posts
    December 23, 2008 at 1:49 am
    "drat usa vs uk thats redundant. same as the gun debate"

    Typical, I make a few negative comments about America and it`s now USA vs UK, as if it`s some sort battle. That attitude is seriously redundant.

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    Apple_18 Female 18-29
    475 posts
    December 23, 2008 at 1:56 am
    sounds like a typical schooling situation to me when he said "all he said was idk i wasnt there" thats about all the information i ever got out of anyone when i was still in school. fkin idiots. O.o
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    Smashking Male 18-29
    773 posts
    December 23, 2008 at 3:05 am
    With the seclusion room, did anyone else get the image from Matilda?
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    SoCal Male 18-29
    650 posts
    December 23, 2008 at 5:42 am
    "Typical, I make a few negative comments about America and it`s now USA vs UK, as if it`s some sort battle. That attitude is seriously redundant."

    You`re an idiot, you are just feeding the flame.

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    bananajojo Female 18-29
    1401 posts
    December 23, 2008 at 8:17 am
    EVIL EVIL EVIL! if it`s a special education school you NEVER EVER leave a boy in a "seclusion room" that`s WRONG! poor boy. i`d sue the school if that was my son.
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    sixclaws13 Male 18-29
    2314 posts
    December 23, 2008 at 8:22 am
    "I`m sorry but I cannot disagree with this enough. How can you defend yourself with a gun?"

    You seem to be misunderstanding a very obvious function of a gun.

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    Pindragon Male 18-29
    600 posts
    December 23, 2008 at 1:55 pm
    *shakes head*

    Nothing really to say about this... just... *sigh*

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    jimbobsthebe Male 18-29
    639 posts
    December 23, 2008 at 4:32 pm
    "You`re an idiot, you are just feeding the flame."

    Does anyone else find this hypocritical?

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    makkaal Male 18-29
    123 posts
    December 24, 2008 at 5:56 am
    Don`t worry jimbob. It is.

    And thanks for the link, expl0it!

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    Jimmi Male 13-17
    118 posts
    December 25, 2008 at 11:07 pm
    sue the drating school, obviously.
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    asjomaha Female 30-39
    153 posts
    December 27, 2008 at 8:44 pm
    That just breaks my heart to see such a sweet face go through so much trouble. It`s hard to grow up and even more so for kids woth emotional problems. Whatever protocols that were set were either a. insufficient or b. not followed. Whoever put him in there that way was complacent about the extent of his problems or how far he`ll go. Heartbreaking for the parents... I wonder if this will shake anything up
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    pandaXtreme Female 13-17
    101 posts
    March 26, 2009 at 8:49 pm
    i would press charges on the school
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    pandaXtreme Female 13-17
    101 posts
    March 26, 2009 at 8:52 pm
    did anyone see those scratch marks on the wall of the eclusion room ....hrmmmm
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    himmm Male 70 & Over
    189 posts
    August 7, 2009 at 12:03 pm
    I would press charges on pandaXtreme

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