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Date: 11/22/08 07:02 AM

153 Responses to School Censors “9/11 Truth Now“ Shirt

  1. Profile photo of DHise
    DHise Male 13-17
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    November 21, 2008 at 5:25 am
    Link: School Censors ``9/11 Truth Now`` Shirt - This kid has a point but I really think it was so it didn`t offend other students and facility. What do you think I-A-B?
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    Sorax3 Male 13-17
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    November 21, 2008 at 3:15 pm
    WOW I can`t belive this.....I give it 4 hours to get on the news or cnn
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    specialque Female 13-17
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    November 21, 2008 at 3:16 pm
    wow. its not their business. if he wants to where it let him be, its his freedom of speech
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    gecko_77 Male 18-29
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    November 21, 2008 at 3:17 pm
    Isn`t there some loophole about students not having free speech in school?
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    Asspenny Male 18-29
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    November 21, 2008 at 3:18 pm
    hehe, kid does have a point and censoring everything that someone might find offensive is ridiculous... and buildings are too easily offended
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    alice_x Female 18-29
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    November 21, 2008 at 3:31 pm
    I think they overeacted by censoring the shirt, but i think he is overeacting to it a bit too...
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    xParanoia Female 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 7:08 am
    They could have asked him to retake it first, if it is that big of a problem.
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    stephansv Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 7:14 am
    Youre not protected my the coonstitution till youre an adult. Wear the shirt. Youll spread the message faster than a group of photos for your family. Expose that sucka!
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    jeffkodine Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 7:15 am
    Drama. King.

    And no, there is no right to wear whatever you`d like to at school. That is why some places require uniforms. Freedom of speech does not equate to the right to wear whatever you`d like to.

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    patthebaker Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 7:16 am
    "Orwellian censorship at our school."
    schools arent nearly as bad as they were in the past stop complaining because no one wants to listen to your stupid ideas.
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    Silverlake Male 13-17
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    November 22, 2008 at 7:20 am
    well he does have a point, he overreacted a bit, but he does have a point

    you have the right to choose a school that has uniforms, or one that doesnt. he is free to express himself, and it is not an offensive shirt, if it isnt against school policy then the principal cant remove it

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    smartbomb314 Male 13-17
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    November 22, 2008 at 7:24 am
    ...you cant wear whatever you want at school, they have the right to censor your clothing.
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    lonewolfkliq Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 7:25 am
    i agree, schools are stupid to a point, i got sent home when i was in the 7th grade for wearing a wwe d-generation-x shirt because it said "you make the rules and we break em"
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    handeman77 Male 40-49
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    November 22, 2008 at 7:31 am
    The child is incorrect, the administration does have the right to make on the spot calls when it comes to attire.
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    Luca85 Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 7:34 am
    This is one of the few times I actually agree with the administration. They have dress codes. That`s why you can`t wear shirts that advertise beer or cigarettes, or shirts that have naked ladies on them. School should not be the place to show off your political views.
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    asquared Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 7:37 am
    actually since he decided to go to that school. the principal, whom they submitted to by going to this school, is in charge and can make the decisions. also, it was for the yearbook so, that being a publication of the school, they have the decision to get rid of what they think might offend. the only part of his shirt that would have been visable would have been "9-11" and as such who knows what the rest would have said. heck if i saw it i would assume that it was some slanderous joke against the people who died that day. want to get your message across? buy an ad in the yearbook.
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    Grumpdock Male 13-17
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    November 22, 2008 at 7:43 am
    Yeah!!!! I have rights!! All Paranoid Teenagers stand up, stand up an revolt agaisnt all authority!!!!

    FREEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ....No.

  18. Profile photo of Dakkar
    Dakkar Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 7:48 am
    The school had the right to censor the shirt in one area, the yearbook photos. That is the school`s property and students do not have to be in the yearbook photo section.

    Now, the kid should have gotten back his prints doctored, but the school has every right to censor it for the yearbook. My guess is that it was a little more expensive to get two prints for this kid, so the school decided to go for the shopped ones. Its close to a toss up, but in court the kid loses, the precedent has already been set.

    Now onto his BS. I distinctly saw 9-11 Health Now in the screen while he was proclaiming the deeds of Truth Now. Is it the same organization? If so, why not wear a 9-11 Health Now shirt?

    No, this kid is only there to flame. He wants controversy. He wanted his stupid photo in the yearbook and for the calls to come in while he sat back smugly saying, "First Amendment!"

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    zep fan Female 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 7:48 am
    I see his point, but then I came from a school that dictated our clothing literally down to our shoes (yes, uniformsss). And we were a public school. NO writing whatsoever, even labels. Even your socks had to be above your ankle and white, navy blue, khaki, or black. Ah, the good old days. :-P
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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    November 22, 2008 at 7:49 am
    I agree with the principal on this. The yearbook would have had a kid wearing a shirt where all you could really make out is a big fat "9-11" on it. Which would be inappropriate for a yearbook.

    I am glad the kid is standing up for what he believes in, good for him,. But, the principal is not wrong. Likey what happened was the photo shop called the school saying, "you know there is one kid that has a big fat "9-11" in your face on his t-shirt?.... what do you want me to do about it?" And the principal probably nerfed it.

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    whtevr Female 40-49
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    November 22, 2008 at 7:51 am
    I don`t get why they censored the shirt other than the principal was just being a dick. Oh well, the kid just needs to get over it now and take his own photos to pass around.
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    malikymoo Female 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 7:52 am
    blah blah blah get over it, its a t-shirt
  23. Profile photo of Dakkar
    Dakkar Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 7:53 am
    Nope, I don`t believe his BS for one minute. Donations to the firefighters is a nice and humane gesture, but clearly a front for this organizations true motives. That is spewing ill-conceived conspiracy theories to further some agenda that I truly cannot even begin to ponder.

    This is why I hate reading up on current events in the news. People and organizations like this truly disgust me.

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    Cheese84o6 Male 13-17
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    November 22, 2008 at 7:55 am
    i was kind of with him until he started calling the principal fascist, that is a bit over the top.
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    tom91 Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 7:55 am
    the admin have the right to make these moves, and its nothing new, it stands in the US law, the nepotists and politicians in the US are cutting your freedom, thats true but you cant go around spreading propaganda. 9/11 in my opinion was a deed of the US gover. it`s gonna backfire in their faces any time now. and you guys in my op. need to know the truth...i know I would if that kinnda stuff started happening in my backyard. peace. :)
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    RobSwindol Male 30-39
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    November 22, 2008 at 8:00 am
    I can`t say that I agree with censoring the shirt, but at the same time the kid is a moron and needs to grow up. To think that a school (a private government establishment) can`t prohibit the exercise of certain liberties is asinine. If that were the case, a school couldn`t stop someone from baring arms in their establishment. And to think the "freedom of speech" is truly free is also stupid. Has no one every heard of someone being prosecuted for slander?
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    naz2k55 Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 8:08 am
    maybe he put his t-shirt on inside out?
  28. Profile photo of Llamaz
    Llamaz Male 13-17
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    November 22, 2008 at 8:08 am
    These 9/11 conspiracy theorists need to create a cult and kill themselves when a comet comes by.
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    robrobrob125 Male 13-17
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    November 22, 2008 at 8:13 am
    Come on now, really? Look at RobSwindol`s post (just a few down). He`s right.
  30. Profile photo of splurbyburbl
    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    November 22, 2008 at 8:19 am
    Come on now, really? Look at Dakkar`s post (just a few down). He`s right.
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    McDuff73 Male 30-39
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    November 22, 2008 at 8:29 am
    It seems odd that in a country where constitutional rights are so rigorously defended that schools are allowed to breach those rights.
    Anyhow for those who dont believe in a 9-11 conspiracy watch zeitgeist the Movie its very interesting and a cohesive arguement about the theory behind a conspiracy, it may also kill your belief in religion too.
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    emzrok Female 13-17
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    November 22, 2008 at 8:29 am
    is that kid in the mob or something? "you`re not going to get away with this. we will not be silenced."
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    frumgf Female 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 8:30 am
    "These 9/11 conspiracy theorists need to create a cult and kill themselves when a comet comes by. "

    Hahahahha!!!!! Nice, I approve. :D

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    asquared Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 8:36 am
    "Anyhow for those who dont believe in a 9-11 conspiracy watch zeitgeist the Movie its very interesting and a cohesive arguement about the theory behind a conspiracy, it may also kill your belief in religion too."


    Haha. anyone who watches that and believes a word of it should just drink the kool-aid cause they will believe anything.

  35. Profile photo of Saintantress
    Saintantress Female 30-39
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    November 22, 2008 at 8:37 am
    Why choose picture day to make that statement? I agree with whoever said wearing the shirt publicly would make the statement more effective by reaching far more people than just a school photo would, which I imagine will be seen mostly by peers and family,but perhaps his intention was that his "political statement" would be immortalized in the school yearbook, and truthfully if someone took the time to photoshop my pic I would feel honored. It actually looks pretty good,considering,and the fact that he has proved himself to be a pain in the ass to those whose task it was to doctor his photo,costing them extra time and effort, I would think that in itself would satisfy a teenagers ego. Everyone wants their 15 minutes of fame, sometimes at the cost of trying to make other people look closeminded,idiotic,etc.If he really cared about the situation, couldn`t he think of more productive ways to help those affected by 911 rather than selfishly bellyache about HIS RIGHTS being taken
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    insaneee Female 13-17
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    November 22, 2008 at 8:40 am
    Why does it look like he`s mouthing?
  37. Profile photo of WHOISIT12345
    WHOISIT12345 Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 8:43 am
    FIRTH THE POWER!!!!!!!!!!
  38. Profile photo of splurbyburbl
    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    November 22, 2008 at 8:45 am
    "Why does it look like he`s mouthing?"

    Because youtube is notorious for havingits videos go off from the motion/audio for anything over certain times. In other words... the synchronization is off a bit.

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    taylor_stone Male 30-39
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    November 22, 2008 at 8:48 am
    "Haha. anyone who watches that and believes a word of it should just drink the kool-aid cause they will believe anything."

    Those who believe in the so called 9/11 Conspiracies are simply showing belief in FACTS instead of what the media has fed us. People who read into these things are showing a lot more intelligence than those who are accepting the media`s hacked up stories. Our country is NOT what people are being led o believe. Those with a brain realize that something is amiss and that we the people no longer have the power we once did. So for all those who refuse to respect the views of the people who are actually doing the research, maybe you should move to places liuke Russia or China where you thoughts and opinions really DON`T matter. This country was founded on Democracy. Think for yourself and have your own opinions. Don`t be sheep and follow the norm, just because the mainstream media tells you to.

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    FreshMint Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 8:56 am
    Twisted country... Anyway its saturday and Yes Week End! Hope Obama can contribute to change some of the crap stains here and here on the US flag.
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    boredfjord Male 13-17
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    November 22, 2008 at 8:58 am
    I think the notion that 9/11 was an inside job is ridiculous, but I think the school was way, way out of bounds by trying to censor it. You can`t ban stupidity. It`s the price we pay to live in a free society.
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    aniray Female 13-17
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    November 22, 2008 at 9:01 am
    but saintantress, i dont think his "ego was satisfied with 15 minutes of fame" he probably did want his statement to be immortalzed in the yearbook, so that it would be something that many more people would see, and reflect on, any time they turned to that page. it would extent beyond the radius of the people who would happen to see him that one day he wore it to school. and he would have to be incredibly short-sighted and shallow to feel "honored" by people taking the time to photoshop him. thats just ridiculous, it would make a mockery of his covictions if he felt honored by their concealment.

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    aniray Female 13-17
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    November 22, 2008 at 9:03 am
    on the other hand, i do believe he becomes overly arrogant and self-serving when he tries to slam the principal, state, society, and whatever else as part of a "fascist police-state". there is no point in turning vitriolic and caustic in this situation, especially when as a teenager, it is near impossible to earn the respect and true consideration of those in control. calm words and careful dealings are needed to get one`s point across. violent and immature lashing out is unappreciated and scorned by all.
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    Winter_ICE_0 Male 13-17
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    November 22, 2008 at 9:12 am
    Alright Freedom and School is a very touchy subject.
    - on the one hand you have your constitutional rights no matter what your age, and you have the freedom to express them
    -on the other had you are a guest in a place which someone owns and makes their own rules, so technically you are the guest and you must follow the rules.

    Again, I`m all for upholding the constitution, but there is a major clash between the education system and the constitution, especially when it comes to the right to have a concealed weapon on you person.

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    handeman77 Male 40-49
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    November 22, 2008 at 9:15 am
    He claims they have contacted an attorny... hope the mouthpeice see`s this vid, he will have a stroke.
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    SilentFray Female 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 9:16 am
    "Haha. anyone who watches that and believes a word of it should just drink the kool-aid cause they will believe anything."

    Speaking from the other side of the fence, I feel that you are the sheep. You have been force fed the idea that 9-11 was an accident. Match the facts with the fiction and nothing fits together right. What happened to building 7? It was structurally sound. You believe the Patriot Act was a good thing. Look into it. The Germans used the same tactics on the Jews.

    anyway, getting back to what i want to say. Let the kid exercise his rights. This WAS the land of the free. Now its just land of the slave and home of the bullies.

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    basketkase Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 9:22 am
    eh dumb
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    amandalea Female 13-17
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    November 22, 2008 at 9:33 am
    That`s... stupid.
    I have a `Because it is a conspiracy` shirt, and a `9/11 was a cover up` shirt; and no one gives a second thought to it.
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    moefreak Female 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 9:35 am
    Yeah this kid took this a little too seriously. And as for 9/11 conspiracy theories, it`s funny that the people who believe them say that they only believe "the facts" and not what "the media" has told us. Where exactly are you getting your facts? Isn`t it some form of media? The internet? Why do you think that`s more reliable?
  50. Profile photo of asquared
    asquared Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 9:40 am
    dont follow the norm? Think for myself? in this nation it is the norm to think that 911 was an inside job. it is that norm to be anti religion. i am thinking for myself. maybe you should to.
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    taylor_stone Male 30-39
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    November 22, 2008 at 9:44 am
    Thank you for second-ing my point SilentFray. This country has been led to believe anything the government and media feed it. What ever happened to free thinking intelligence? One should ALWAYS question authority, because authority figures are more interested in fulfilling their own agendas than doing what is right for the masses. 9/11 as a cash cow. All involved became billionaires overnight. Our government has been doing similar things for decades, if not centuries. I seriously wish there was a way to rally all the NON sheep together and pool our efforts and finally uncover these injustices. Maybe THEN all the "America is Grand" bottle babies will finally listen to reason. What would it take to show people the truth?
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    ghostofme Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 9:48 am
    "Schools do not have the right to take away my free speech."

    Uh, yeah they do. That kid is a minor a minor, first of all, and when it comes to other students, the school has the right to do whatever it feels is necessary to protect them. I`m not saying that this is one of those examples. But that kid acting like he can do whatever the hell he feels like without the school doing anything about it, is just stupid.

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    Powernuke Male 13-17
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    November 22, 2008 at 9:48 am
    Watergate is the answer. If they couldn`t cover that up, how could they cover up 9/11.
  54. Profile photo of taylor_stone
    taylor_stone Male 30-39
    2688 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 9:50 am
    "Where exactly are you getting your facts? Isn`t it some form of media? The internet? Why do you think that`s more reliable?"

    Some of us actually research these things a lot further than people give us credit for. We study video documents. We look back at the stock market, and see that airline stocks were at an all time high right before the attacks. The internet is just a forum for our own research where we can share ideas. We STILL research those facts to make sure they`re plausible. Don`t try to shake us off as being unintelligent and sheepish. We apparently have more intelligence, collectively, than you do. Try researching sometime. You`d be surprised at the things you can learn. Nothing comes at face value anymore.

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    ghostofme Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 9:52 am
    Anyone else notice how the second you disagree with one of these "Truthers," they automatically start saying that we are sheep, who have no brains, who believe everything the media tells us?

    I have seen more posts on various websites exactly like this than I have of smart, articulated responses from the so-called Truthers.

    Seems to me that they are hostile, arrogant, and unable to accept the fact that some people just don`t agree with them.

  56. Profile photo of DrJack
    DrJack Male 13-17
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    November 22, 2008 at 9:57 am
    Although I do not think that 9/11 was an inside job, few people deny that they are covering up many things.
    I applaud this kid`s courageousness and effort for his own rights. He made some very good points.
    Also, in another video, he said that Dan Bettin allowed the original shirt to be printed after being called by hundreds of supporters.
  57. Profile photo of Saintantress
    Saintantress Female 30-39
    52 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 10:06 am
    Inspired by too much Micheal Moore,in my opinion.
    This little brat doesn`t care about anything involving 911, but is just an attention seeking immature kid afflicted with horrific hormones, making him a little Nutter who wants to be popular at school. His silly pseudo-intellectual political babble will someday haunt him, and not the way he would like. No, Mommy will not have that embarrassing high school photo to show all of his future girlfriends or maybe his fiancee, but now has something way better!If he sincerely cared he would be doing more productive things with his time,rather than trivializing an event that hits our nerves and making a shirt for picture day to serve his own selfish needs, then claiming he`s been censored by his Principal, who, in my opinion should take some kind of action,if even possible to put this little narcissist in his place.
    This kid is just a silly little trouble maker, with no original, world-changing thoughts of his own. It`s all rehashed.
  58. Profile photo of Chiburashka
    Chiburashka Male 18-29
    292 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 10:07 am
    He`s not very good at speaking (maybe consider a script?), but according to Tinker v. Des Moines Independent Community School District, his free speech argument stands - but only in person. Hazelwood v. Kuhlmier gives the school the legal right to censor student pulications, including the yearbook, on the basis that it is a school program funded at the discretion of the school board.

    That said, the kid paid for the photos (form a private company, no less), so the responsible thing to do would have been to give him his photos unaltered and inform him they would be edited for the yearbook.

  59. Profile photo of MisuriX
    MisuriX Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 10:08 am
    ""Schools do not have the right to take away my free speech."

    Uh, yeah they do. That kid is a minor a minor, first of all, and when it comes to other students, the school has the right to do whatever it feels is necessary to protect them."

    im not up on yankee laws but one fact i do know is that the constitution is not allowed to be breached, unless it the thing involved breaches homeland security and/or threatens/terrorizes the state.
    You may be a US citazen and live by these rules so dont try to use that against me, i studied for 2years on the law of America and its bill of rights.
    what they did to this kid was pointless, and because of it has broken federal laws

    thank you and goodnight

  60. Profile photo of MisuriX
    MisuriX Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 10:12 am
    "This little brat doesn`t care about anything involving 911, but is just an attention seeking immature kid afflicted with horrific hormones, making him a little Nutter who wants to be popular at school. His silly pseudo-intellectual political babble will someday haunt him, and not the way he would like. No, Mommy will not have that embarrassing high school photo to show all of his future girlfriends or maybe his fiancee, but now has something way better!If he sincerely cared he would be doing more productive things with his time,rather than trivializing an event that hits our nerves and making a shirt for picture day to serve his own selfish needs, then claiming he`s been censored by his Principal, who, in my opinion should take some kind of action,if even possible to put this little narcissist in his place. "

    slow down mary sue. he stands for a legit foundation that was censored and you call him a egotistical brat. hell i`d even say "emo".

    take a chill pill an

  61. Profile photo of Saintantress
    Saintantress Female 30-39
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    November 22, 2008 at 10:13 am
    Why choose picture day to make that statement? I agree with whoever said wearing the shirt publicly would make the statement more effective by reaching far more people than just a school photo would, which I imagine will be seen mostly by peers and family,but perhaps his intention was that his "political statement" would be immortalized in the school yearbook, and truthfully if someone took the time to photoshop my pic I would feel honored. It actually looks pretty good,considering,and the fact that he has proved himself to be a pain in the ass to those whose task it was to doctor his photo,costing them extra time and effort, I would think that in itself would satisfy a teenagers ego. Everyone wants their 15 minutes of fame, sometimes at the cost of trying to make other people look closeminded,idiotic,etc.If he really cared about the situation, couldn`t he think of more productive ways to help those affected by 911 rather than selfishly bellyache about HIS RIGHTS being taken
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    geek_nimrod Female 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 10:16 am
    Jerks.

    It`s funny how people encourage ignorance, but when someone breaks out of that shell, they do everything they can to suppress their minds.

    Everyone needs to see Zeitgeist, the Movie.

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    Codmily Female 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 10:19 am
    This kid has a point to some degree, but his statement "the school does not have the right to take away my freedom of speech" yes they do. Public schools are the only place where they are able to take away that freedom. It sucks, but it`s true.
    And why is this such a big deal? This kid seems to feel very strongly about his beliefs on 9/11, but why is he using his school`s yearbook to do that? People aren`t going to see it for months anyway, and what kind of statement is it really making? Most high schoolers are not going to care, it`s only the faculty, so I think this kid should shut up and obey the rules, honestly.
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    taylor_stone Male 30-39
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    November 22, 2008 at 10:22 am
    Well put, Chiburashka. even though I am a supprter of Truth Now, I agree that at the very least, they should have given him the photos unedited, but informed him that edited versions would be in the yearbook, and give him good reason as to why. Just blatantly changing the photos without his consent was wrong. The school system wasn`t wrong for wanting the picture to be altered, but was wrong for doing so without notification and proper reason.
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    VikingGuy Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 10:32 am
    sounds like his school is similar to the bullpoo one i went to, i´m all for this guy.
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    nofxauthorit Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 10:48 am
    technically speaking, if you are a minor then you have limited or no rights. the constitution does not apply to you until you hit the age of 18. i can understand that he is at an age where rebellion feels like the right thing, i`ve been there. but he s grossly misinformed about his "rights." and school is public, therefore if ANYONE may be offended by something they have a right to do something about it. i do disagree with that but it`s the law because we have become a p.c. society.
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    staberind Female 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 11:00 am
    how whiny, i wish he was right and actually had a leg to stand on, can`t stand his gobby voice, he sounds like a choirboy with a wet arse.
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    moosekid Male 13-17
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    November 22, 2008 at 11:03 am
    Maybe if he just smiled...
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    Saintantress Female 30-39
    52 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 11:03 am
    MisuriX, My name is not Mary sue, BTW, you silly goose.I believe noone should have their rights taken away, I am certainly anti-censorship. You`re missing the point.He`s deliberatly trying to push buttons at school,and knew damn well he was risking censorship to begin with.He had a shirt made, brought it to thier attention that he would wear it on picture day. Perhaps We`re not seeing the whole picture (no pun intended ;-)We`re not hearing the other side. For all we know he made a big troublesome fuss about his freedom of speech rights and gave them a hard time. He is a kid. He just wants to challenge his school. I am well aware of what is really happening in this country, all I am saying is if you want to get upon a soapbox and speak out, do it right. Now that we all know what a freedom-crushing tyrant Principle Bettini is, can we say honestly that this kids sole purpose was to enlighten people about 911, or exploit it for his benefit?
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    fillemorte Female 18-29
    741 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 11:11 am
    I beleive he is right, 9/11 is something I think everyone should look into. It was a slaughter of the american people by the american government.

    The new world order shall fall in 2012!
    F FALSE FREEDOM! THATS LIKE PUTTING A TRANS FAT SIGN ON SOMETHING AND MAKING IT SEEM LESS FATTY.

    AMERICA IS FALSE AND FAKE, I BELIEVE EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE RIGHTS NO MATTER WHAT YOUR AGE.

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    moosekid Male 13-17
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    November 22, 2008 at 11:15 am
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    Saintantress Female 30-39
    52 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 11:17 am
    Also, might I add...
    I think he should have just worn the damn shirt without asking and making a big presentation out of it. Then I am sure he would have gotten his desired photos. Now does anyone understand what the hell I am trying to point out?!
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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 11:19 am
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    I think thats implied

  74. Profile photo of Bassguy
    Bassguy Male 40-49
    23 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 11:24 am
    Anyone who belives in this 9/11 conspiracy crap, needs to have his head examined.
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    taylor_stone Male 30-39
    2688 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 11:32 am
    "Anyone who belives in this 9/11 conspiracy crap, needs to have his head examined."

    As do people who don`t have the nerve to question when something doesn`t make sense. Wanna go there? How about Kennedy? Explain the fact that the only piece of evidence we need to find out what really happened, his brain, went missing shortly after the murder? Or the fact that for his funeral, he was in an expensive coffin, but arrived at the actual burial site in a military pine box coffin? Or how about Lincoln? The doctors had the capability to save him, but performed procedures that only sped his death. Look up and research the Knights of the Golden Circle.

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    taylor_stone Male 30-39
    2688 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 11:34 am
    And that isnt conspiracy, that is fact... Based on released doctors reports and unprinted news articles... Who stopped these documents from being seen? The government.
  77. Profile photo of Camaleao
    Camaleao Male 18-29
    8 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 11:38 am
    anyone who believes the government version is simply ignorant. the governemt explanation of the events on 9/11 is simply scientifically impossible.
    im not saying that the government did it (though things like operation northwoods can make one a bit paranoid....), but the explanation they gave is a big bunch of crap.
    but as allways, ignorance is bliss. its way easier to just accept what you are told and not think about it.

    about the topic: wow, i am so glad that i dont live in the us. in my school, nobody would have dared to say anything about my clothes, except perhaps if they were waaaay to sexually explicit. though we had some guys and girls coming to school only in sauna towels and nobody cared.

  78. Profile photo of taylor_stone
    taylor_stone Male 30-39
    2688 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 11:47 am
    "though we had some guys and girls coming to school only in sauna towels and nobody cared"

    Were photos taken of that day at all??? :p

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    TKD_Master Male 18-29
    4794 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 11:51 am
    yeah...america is just plain gay.
  80. Profile photo of M_Archer
    M_Archer Male 18-29
    525 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 11:53 am
    The constitution of the United States applies to EVERYONE. Minors don`t have all the rights (like the right to vote) but they do have the freedom of speech right. And the right to be secure and the right to a lawyer.
  81. Profile photo of M_Archer
    M_Archer Male 18-29
    525 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 11:54 am
    And besides. Why would the government attack themselves? Your conspiracy doesn`t make sense because it`s just assumptions.
  82. Profile photo of schecter5
    schecter5 Male 18-29
    406 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 11:55 am
    ok this kid has a good point. but i think he tries to make himself more of a victim here. "the new world order will fall!" wtf, thats stupid. it a shirt man, not you and your family being prosecuted as undesirables by the government because of your ideals/race/religion/just for the hell of it.

    five bucks says this hid wears a guevara shirt from hot topic and thinks hes the first person ever to be such a damn revolutionary.
    this kid his full of fail. full to the hot damned brim.

  83. Profile photo of Saintantress
    Saintantress Female 30-39
    52 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 12:03 pm
    MisuriX, My name is not Mary sue, BTW, you silly goose.I believe noone should have their rights taken away, I am certainly anti-censorship. You`re missing the point.He`s deliberatly trying to push buttons at school,and knew damn well he was risking censorship to begin with.He had a shirt made, brought it to thier attention that he would wear it on picture day. Perhaps We`re not seeing the whole picture (no pun intended ;-)We`re not hearing the other side. For all we know he made a big troublesome fuss about his freedom of speech rights and gave them a hard time. He is a kid. He just wants to challenge his school. I am well aware of what is really happening in this country, all I am saying is if you want to get upon a soapbox and speak out, do it right. Now that we all know what a freedom-crushing tyrant Principle Bettini is, can we say honestly that this kids sole purpose was to enlighten people about 911, or exploit it for his benefit?
  84. Profile photo of AJester
    AJester Male 18-29
    63 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 12:05 pm
    The kids a drating douchebag, end of story.
  85. Profile photo of cuchulainn
    cuchulainn Male 30-39
    138 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 12:05 pm
    it has been resolved
    School Uncensors shirt
  86. Profile photo of Camaleao
    Camaleao Male 18-29
    8 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 12:06 pm
    @archer: try reading about operation northwoods. it gives quite a reason why a government would attack itself.
    besides, that the government explanation is a lie is not an assumption. its fact.
    many of those who doubt what happened at 9/11 dont really believe that the government did it themselves. but well, it makes me curios, and i bet others, too: what is the government helping to hide? if they have nothing to do with it, why do they stick to the crap they try to sell?

    @stone: i myself didnt take any, but im sure some people did ^^
    it was a fun day at school ^^

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    cndman15 Male 18-29
    328 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 12:25 pm
    really most ppl piss me off. i hate you all. actually the smart ones i like. but ppl like fillemorte. no. everyone knows trans fat is worse for you anyways. it raises your LDLs and lowers your HDLs. at least try to make your point make sense. i hate you
  88. Profile photo of cahalla
    cahalla Female 18-29
    961 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 12:29 pm
    The kid has a good point, however a majority of it is based AGAINST what law states.
    The point of censorship/free speach has long been nixed and fought when it comes to school rule and policy. Student Newspapers, demonstrations, flyers, etc... are governed by the school. Essencially it was once stated that childrens free speech does not stop once the enter school (60s I beleive) but in the more recent 1988 Hazelwood v. Kuhlmeier case, it was decided that the school has the authority to censor students.

    The point this kid should be making is the pictures that go to HIM should have it however he is, with his shirt however he wanted. But, the picture that would be in the year book (which is a school publication and should not have views one side vs the other) should be a plain black shirt.

    The kid, has a good spirit, but he needs to keep it in check.
    He should try going to private school for 15+ years, and see what THATS like.....

  89. Profile photo of Camaleao
    Camaleao Male 18-29
    8 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 12:40 pm
    come to think of it, my school once tried some kind of censoring. beginning of the irak war, lots of demonstrations going on that we should NOT participate in an offensive war with a fraud as reason for attacking.
    our principal said we are not allowed to demonstrate on school grounds during school time. the organisators were very happy about that, because nearly every student came, including those who didnt care for the war. they came along to show the principal that he had no power at all, that they can demonstrate whenever, wherever they want.
    the principal was quite pissed ^^
  90. Profile photo of ElDavo
    ElDavo Male 18-29
    2149 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 1:19 pm
    cahalla got it right. He`s paid for a picture to be that way it was taken and should get that, however the school-published yearbook should be the way the school says it should be.

    And why, by the way, does 9-11 truth matter anymore? It`s so stupid now.

  91. Profile photo of xiquiripat
    xiquiripat Male 18-29
    2422 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 1:33 pm
    So if the American Government killed thousands of it`s own citizens to get us into Iraq, why didn`t they just plant WMD`s to keep us there? You know, instead of looking like total dicks in front of their own people and the rest of the world? Has the government really got better at conspiracy 101 since Watergate and the Pentagon Papers? Or is it *gasp* that arabs were actually smart enough to pull this attack off and we had no idea what we the hell we were doing? Naw couldn`t be...
  92. Profile photo of opiebreath
    opiebreath Female 18-29
    15774 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 1:40 pm
    Not exactly like his situation, but one year for my pictures they photoshopped my arm black. Not like African American black, like I was wearing a black undershirt. Not exactly sure how that happened.
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    Blakcat71388 Female 18-29
    876 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 1:40 pm
    Old news... Problem has been rectified.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2rT-WSa5...

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    britt566 Female 18-29
    2290 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 1:42 pm
    *Thinking of something funny to say*
  95. Profile photo of WeePee
    WeePee Male 18-29
    612 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 2:11 pm
    something makes me want to physically hurt that little annoying kid. he watches some conspiracy videos on youtube and thinks hes some part of a new word order of truth.

    the yearbook is the schools property since they are the ones getting it published. they can censor whatever they feel like and its not against any amendments. imo they shouldn`t have folded to a little prepubescent brat.

  96. Profile photo of Wagonlover
    Wagonlover Male 18-29
    290 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 2:46 pm
    jeez kid. relax
  97. Profile photo of Ty-Force
    Ty-Force Male 18-29
    400 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 3:03 pm
    MY GOD!!!

    That haircut is horrible.

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    mst3k Male 18-29
    79 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 3:14 pm
    just look at building 7...end of story!
  99. Profile photo of GunMetal
    GunMetal Male 13-17
    161 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 3:15 pm
    To Weepee:

    In actuality many organizations have lied to the public about 9/11. Whether the unintentionally left out information or if was in fact intentionally left out, many things are left unknown about the event which leads people to speak out to get their information which has been followed by complete silence leading people to speculate that it was set up, I can see why they believe that.

    To Wagonlover,

    The censoring of his shirt symbolized to him the complete ignorance of wellfare for the families of the 3000+ that died and are still dieing from disease. Here in NYC there is a major lack of health care for the survivors who were in the general area of the WTC since there is no conclusive evidence that 9/11 has caused disease. his shirt represent the fact that their needs to more public awareness of this matter. If he did not speak out his cause would forever die.

    If people never speak out for their cause nothing would get done.

    I hope I kind of explained it clearly fo

  100. Profile photo of rcw093
    rcw093 Male 18-29
    3 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 3:15 pm
    building 7 collapsed from "small fires" inside job!
  101. Profile photo of Gleeballs
    Gleeballs Female 18-29
    850 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 3:29 pm
    sorry. you dont have free speech at school. by going to a public school you agree to abide by their rules and policies. and that means they can do whatever the hell they want.
    also... LOL at his little speech at the end.
    "The police state.. WILL FALL. The new world order... WILL FALL!"
  102. Profile photo of Victory7
    Victory7 Male 18-29
    362 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 3:57 pm
    I fully support the school`s action, because I am strongly anti-stupid. There was no "inside job" on 9/11.
    There`s no point for the government to do it, they would have gone to Iraq anyway. And just think about what is being said; that your own government, your ruling body, was directly responsible for the deaths of over 3,000 people. That just doesn`t happen. In a totalitarian regime, yes, but not a republic. Watch any, ANY, documentary about 9/11 and every answer you have will be explianed throughly. (Spoiler alert, it was a small sect of radical Muslim extremeists. =0 ) Saying that 9/11 was an inside job is a direct insult to Todd Beamer and others who died while fighting TERRORISTS, not the Federal government. I want you, the believers of 9/11 conspiracies, to look Todd Beamer`s wife in the eyes and say, "I believe your husband`s heroism was a fallacy created by the government."
  103. Profile photo of Victory7
    Victory7 Male 18-29
    362 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 4:05 pm
    But let it be said that I beleive public schools are facist.
  104. Profile photo of undeadonion
    undeadonion Female 18-29
    213 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 4:15 pm
    //I fully support the school`s action, because I am strongly anti-stupid. There was no "inside job" on 9/11.//


    You can`t just censor people you don`t agree with.

  105. Profile photo of pick_me
    pick_me Male 18-29
    544 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 4:35 pm
    good pointless conspiracy theorist poo is the only thing that needs to be censered
    i dont give a fhuck what anyone says
  106. Profile photo of ghostofme
    ghostofme Male 18-29
    516 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 5:08 pm
    "just look at building 7...end of story!"

    Yeah, it`s so hard to believe that 1.65 million tons of debris falling on or around Building 7 could have caused it collapse.

    It`s much easier to believe that the American government decided to demolish the buildings and cover it up so that we could go to war in the middle east

    </SARCASM>

  107. Profile photo of ghostofme
    ghostofme Male 18-29
    516 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 5:14 pm
    @ xiquiripat: So true. Ha ha.
  108. Profile photo of ben117
    ben117 Male 13-17
    64 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 5:14 pm
    i dont think the school should of censored him for there p:-D
    :-O
    8-)
    :-P
    ;-)
    oint of veiw but thats just my opinoin
  109. Profile photo of jtrebowski
    jtrebowski Male 40-49
    3359 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 5:15 pm
    It`s true that childrens free speech ends on school property, and there are some good reasons for it (safety) but I applaud this kid for trying to express his views. In the past 8 years of Republican rule, we have gotten dangerously close to totalitarianism, and he realizes it. It`s unfortunate that in todays times, reality dictates that debate and protest must be oppressed in schools.
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    xxmiskawaiix Female 13-17
    102 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 5:26 pm
    Let the kid say what he wants! Free country! The school is preatty,well i`ll say "Simple". Wow, its just a shirt.End of story. Unless he goes around killing people wearing that shirt, THEN WHY THE HECK DOES ANYONE CARE? Dumbo`s.....>:-(
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    juliakiwi Female 13-17
    39 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 5:58 pm
    this kid rocks.
    LOVE YOUR SHIRT ^^
  112. Profile photo of Silverlake
    Silverlake Male 13-17
    766 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 6:06 pm
    i personally believe in the conspiracy theory conspiracy theory

    the conspiracy theory conspiracy theory is the conspiracy theory that the government starts conspiracy theories to make it look like they actually do something.

    lol jk, i blame saddam, but we have been in the middle east far too long

  113. Profile photo of Eichenkatze
    Eichenkatze Male 18-29
    780 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 6:32 pm
    Okay I was right there with him until late in the movie with "The police state will fall mr.." "You will fall.."

    It`s like Okay.. PLEASE! You`re not going to start some huge uprise with this little speach. You shoulda stopped your mouth a mile back.

  114. Profile photo of autographed
    autographed Male 18-29
    81 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 6:46 pm
    many constitutional rights are suspended on school grounds because it is a place of learning. That`s why you can`t wear something distracting or act in a way that would detract from the educational experience of another.

    However, this shirt doesn`t seem to be causing any kind of disturbance. I can`t fully stand behind that statement, because we`re only hearing one side of the story, but from what this video told us, it does look like an infringement of the boy`s rights.

    On the flip side, the principal has the right to do most anything he wants if he believes that it is in the best interest of the school, and the students within it. It is very possible that there is more to the story that we are not being told, but I think that there`s not a whole lot that can be done at this point in time...

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    muzloviti Female 18-29
    135 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 6:57 pm
    *Yawn* really kid???
  116. Profile photo of neveryours
    neveryours Female 13-17
    1269 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 7:15 pm
    that kid makes me happy
    ^^
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    vintagepizza Female 13-17
    447 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 7:56 pm
    He needs to take a chill pill. I guess in a way as well, in the picture all you could probably see is the top of the shirt so it wouldn`t be clear what the shirt was for.

    But he gets a bit carried away with his revolution speech.

  118. Profile photo of jagger04
    jagger04 Male 50-59
    538 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 10:03 pm
    @jtrebowski

    her doesn`t realize anything. he`s just some twat who read "1984", probably for a school assignment, and thought it was cool..

    oh, and lol @ idiots who still believe in an inside job.

  119. Profile photo of Scotchy
    Scotchy Male 18-29
    592 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 10:13 pm
    Im reading the comments and thinking its funny, about how the previous US government was bad, and other things. Totalitarian or other bad forms of government. The last 8 years, as the same with the 8 before it, and the years before that up till the cold war, you all have the easy life. It was as bad as you all seem to believe it has been, then you wouldn`t be able to talk without being arrested, you would be told how to live and what to do. You have no say whatsoever, and forums like this wouldn`t exist.

    It`s funny to how fast you spout that nonsense, then go to call people stupid for wanting to teach religion is schools, (which is stupid, I think it is the dumbest idea ever) It is all the same bullpoo that doesn`t exist, but still want to force others to believe it exists.

    9/11 was created by 11 hijackers on 4 planes working for Al Queda. During a cordinated and planned assault over years of preperation, they struck the twin towers and the pentagon. How hard is that to understand

  120. Profile photo of Smashking
    Smashking Male 18-29
    773 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 10:19 pm
    Scothy, you are my hero.

    Not because of the words themselves, but because you typed what I was about to and you just saved me about 10 minutes of typing =P

    I kid. But 9/11 conspiracy theorists will be around long after Bush leaves the office, and will probably never stop. Another way to think of it, knowing the fact that it was an elaborate and dare-I-say-it well thought out plan is a lot calmer on the nerves.

  121. Profile photo of Smashking
    Smashking Male 18-29
    773 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 10:27 pm
    While I don`t agree with the concept of the shirt and the movement he follows, there is a bit of a point in what he says. Only problem is he really ticks me off, he just gives off this vibe of a high horse.
  122. Profile photo of paulyshore
    paulyshore Female 18-29
    89 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 10:54 pm
    really? a youtube clip?
    aren`t angst-ridden teenagers supposed to, like, paper mache cars and t.p. houses? if you really wanna screw with your principal just pester him relentlessly for the next 3 years.

    then again you americans are known for your melodrama.. hehe

  123. Profile photo of sgdp
    sgdp Female 18-29
    553 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 11:13 pm
    People are offended by others` opinions?

    Oh My Gosh. What is America coming to? The government run schools are furthering their indoctrination by limiting freedom of speech on this one.

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    powpowking Male 13-17
    551 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 2:03 am
    `shopped fail
  125. Profile photo of FIRST_poster
    FIRST_poster Male 18-29
    970 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 2:17 am
    OMG
    look what I just found out!!!!
    the sum of digits in 9/11 equals…
    again… 11!!!
    OMFG i know who is behind al this…
  126. Profile photo of Camaleao
    Camaleao Male 18-29
    8 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 4:35 am
    9/11 was created by 11 hijackers on 4 planes working for Al Queda. During a cordinated and planned assault over years of preperation, they struck the twin towers and the pentagon. How hard is that to understand

    it is hard to understand because the impact of 2 planes that size could never have damaged the towers far enough to make them collapse. i intended to write some of the points which make it impossible that the twin towers were destroyed that way, but well, it doesnt seem to make sense. if you want to ignore facts and listen to senseless fiction, one more reading of facts probably wouldnt make any difference.

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    keatonatron Male 18-29
    679 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 4:55 am
    feal good foundation?
  128. Profile photo of cd41
    cd41 Male 13-17
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    November 23, 2008 at 5:37 am
    Police State thats alittle offensive, i appriciate your motivation but please read:

    The term police state describes a state in which the government exercises rigid and repressive controls over the social, economic and political life of the population. A police state typically exhibits elements of totalitarianism and social control, and there is usually little or no distinction between the law and the exercise of political power by the executive.
    The inhabitants of a police state experience restrictions on their mobility, and on their freedom to express or communicate political or other views, which are subject to police monitoring or enforcement. Political control may be exerted by means of a secret police force which operates outside the boundaries normally imposed by a constitutional republic.

    Maybe the photo company/principal didn`t know what you shirt meant, why not go buy your own camera and make your own school pictures instead of buying it from them

  129. Profile photo of BoomBox
    BoomBox Male 13-17
    1232 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 6:55 am
    Yeah I guess that was wrong, but I mean come on, the kid took it a bit too far.
  130. Profile photo of Gerbear
    Gerbear Female 18-29
    1186 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 7:16 am
    This kid is brave for standing up for what he believes in against all those authority figures. And THEN making a youtube video out of it. I give him props. I hope he gets his message across to them.
    But I hated that there was a huge delay at the end.
  131. Profile photo of jackasshal
    jackasshal Male 13-17
    12 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 7:26 am
    9/11 is a drating conspiracy
    it was made by the americans just to have an exuse to attack iraq
  132. Profile photo of Hansbo
    Hansbo Male 18-29
    901 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 7:53 am
    Yes, 9/11 must have been a conspiracy meant as an excuse to invade Iraq. Why else would the frame the afghan government?
  133. Profile photo of dm2754
    dm2754 Male 40-49
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    November 23, 2008 at 9:05 am
    I find it amusing in the land of the free number one pastime is oppressing the rights and ideas of others
  134. Profile photo of sponged
    sponged Male 18-29
    553 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 9:51 am
    so why did they censor a phone number for i dont get that :-S
  135. Profile photo of Chiburashka
    Chiburashka Male 18-29
    292 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 10:34 am
    Hehe... I love that everyone`s argument consists of "I`m right because it`s a fact." Well, poo! It`s a fact? You win...

    *I`m being sarcastic, in case it was not apparent - I`d hate to encourage that kind of sloppy debate. And pretending you won`t discuss it because no one will understand it? That`s rather tool-ish.*

  136. Profile photo of Imjesus
    Imjesus Male 13-17
    122 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 10:37 am
    My history teacher has told us that clothing that makes a political statement is prohibited because it distracts students from learning and is completely unnecessary in a school environment. It`s irrelevant, and it has a lot of potential of causing a poostorm, so they decide to simplify things and just ban the statements altogether.

    I wonder if it`s that policy that the principal had in mind when he ordered the photoshop. I understand what the student is saying, but I don`t think he`s looking at the issue from the school`s standpoint.

  137. Profile photo of 2472192
    2472192 Male 13-17
    121 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 11:33 am
    "The term police state describes a state in which the government exercises rigid and repressive controls over the social, economic and political life of the population. A police state typically exhibits elements of totalitarianism and social control, and there is usually little or no distinction between the law and the exercise of political power by the executive.
    The inhabitants of a police state experience restrictions on their mobility, and on their freedom to express or communicate political or other views, which are subject to police monitoring or enforcement. Political control may be exerted by means of a secret police force which operates outside the boundaries normally imposed by a constitutional republic."

    well dude....were getting there right at this moment our rights are being taken away..and america is heading towards a police state

  138. Profile photo of ghostofme
    ghostofme Male 18-29
    516 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 12:06 pm
    "This kid is brave for standing up for what he believes in against all those authority figures."

    He`s not some freedom fighter...Jesus. He`s an annoying punk kid who probably runs around school acting like that Andrew Meyers guy (you know, Taser Boy), annoying the hell out of everyone and claiming injustices in the smallest of things. There`s nothing heroic about it.

    If all it takes to be a hero these days is to buy into an ideology that isn`t accepted by the mainstream, start cramming that ideology down everyone`s throat, then yelling "Totalitarianism," "Police State," and "cover up" whenever people disagree with you...then sign me up. Apparently the standards of being a hero has dropped considerably.

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    vicious_liar Male 13-17
    1226 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 1:58 pm
    I have to agree with him that the school has no real reason to remove it, but they can do it legally, even though it affects his `free speech`. I don`t see how this might distract people or might be offensive to anyway though...
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    ninjabot Male 13-17
    241 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 5:04 pm
    hell ya
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    awesomo Male 13-17
    245 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 5:17 pm
    the fact that this video is made by the kid who got suspended removes a lot of credibility....did he even get suspended? its weird....i was like that...do stupid stuff and then its the schools fault. its 50-50.
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    doesntloveu Female 18-29
    139 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 5:17 pm
    Good way to get his message across. I dont see how this is offensive though?
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    shivinski Male 18-29
    191 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 5:20 pm
    hahahahah www.FEALgoodfoundation.com
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    dragonshadoz Female 18-29
    4031 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 5:41 pm
    Actually, schools pretty much can take away free speech. You can`t wear a shirt that has drug paraphernalia or sexual connotations on it, but you sure can anywhere else. School policies or whatever.
    That said, I don`t know how this shirt was offensive and why he couldn`t at least have it on his ordered photos. Those photos are for him and whomever he decides to give them to. Why censor it? Yearbook, maybe, but why the personal ones?

    And he says it was not against school rules, so it is questionable.

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    dragonshadoz Female 18-29
    4031 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 5:43 pm
    Hey look, he won: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2rT-WSa5...
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    gatorade777 Male 18-29
    1194 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 6:14 pm
    he`s right and his rights are being taken but seriously this issue is not a big deal and he needs to get over it. Whats done is done and there`s no point posting a video trying to get attention and pretending like he actually cares about the 911 situation.
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    jar-head Male 13-17
    596 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 7:21 pm
    dude, i was so close to just drat You. But watching it fully through, this kid kicks ass, this is Not offensive to what he is trying to prove after the first minute, Cheers
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    fedabog Male 18-29
    90 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 9:57 pm
    i agreed with him until he ranted for 3 minutes about the New World Order and police states....

    Stupid kids these days.

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    SoCal Male 18-29
    650 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 10:48 pm
    nice hair cut lol
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    Youcantwin Male 18-29
    162 posts
    December 6, 2008 at 7:47 pm
    So let me get this straight....this poor small town principal is being called "power hungry" because he censored a shirt with 3 words on it?

    Its a public school! Some of your rights are going to be taken away from you! I hate people like this

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    tornadofdoom Male 13-17
    1081 posts
    December 6, 2008 at 8:09 pm
    Does everybody agree with me that this kid should be sent to Russia for a month and see how he turns out?
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    maiye Female 13-17
    251 posts
    December 15, 2008 at 12:25 pm
    give him a break! he was trying to make a point. I agree with him
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    LonelyStoner Male 18-29
    15 posts
    May 21, 2009 at 6:47 pm
    The New World Order is real but not the crazy conspiracy Orwellian order they talk about. It`s all Christian imperialism. This kid`s a little caught up.

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