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Its a public school! Some of your rights are going to be taken away from you! I hate people like this
Stupid kids these days.
And he says it was not against school rules, so it is questionable.
He`s not some freedom fighter...Jesus. He`s an annoying punk kid who probably runs around school acting like that Andrew Meyers guy (you know, Taser Boy), annoying the hell out of everyone and claiming injustices in the smallest of things. There`s nothing heroic about it.
If all it takes to be a hero these days is to buy into an ideology that isn`t accepted by the mainstream, start cramming that ideology down everyone`s throat, then yelling "Totalitarianism," "Police State," and "cover up" whenever people disagree with you...then sign me up. Apparently the standards of being a hero has dropped considerably.
well dude....were getting there right at this moment our rights are being taken away..and america is heading towards a police state
I wonder if it`s that policy that the principal had in mind when he ordered the photoshop. I understand what the student is saying, but I don`t think he`s looking at the issue from the school`s standpoint.
*I`m being sarcastic, in case it was not apparent - I`d hate to encourage that kind of sloppy debate. And pretending you won`t discuss it because no one will understand it? That`s rather tool-ish.*
The term police state describes a state in which the government exercises rigid and repressive controls over the social, economic and political life of the population. A police state typically exhibits elements of totalitarianism and social control, and there is usually little or no distinction between the law and the exercise of political power by the executive.The inhabitants of a police state experience restrictions on their mobility, and on their freedom to express or communicate political or other views, which are subject to police monitoring or enforcement. Political control may be exerted by means of a secret police force which operates outside the boundaries normally imposed by a constitutional republic.
Maybe the photo company/principal didn`t know what you shirt meant, why not go buy your own camera and make your own school pictures instead of buying it from them
it is hard to understand because the impact of 2 planes that size could never have damaged the towers far enough to make them collapse. i intended to write some of the points which make it impossible that the twin towers were destroyed that way, but well, it doesnt seem to make sense. if you want to ignore facts and listen to senseless fiction, one more reading of facts probably wouldnt make any difference.
Oh My Gosh. What is America coming to? The government run schools are furthering their indoctrination by limiting freedom of speech on this one.
then again you americans are known for your melodrama.. hehe
Not because of the words themselves, but because you typed what I was about to and you just saved me about 10 minutes of typing =P
I kid. But 9/11 conspiracy theorists will be around long after Bush leaves the office, and will probably never stop. Another way to think of it, knowing the fact that it was an elaborate and dare-I-say-it well thought out plan is a lot calmer on the nerves.
It`s funny to how fast you spout that nonsense, then go to call people stupid for wanting to teach religion is schools, (which is stupid, I think it is the dumbest idea ever) It is all the same bullpoo that doesn`t exist, but still want to force others to believe it exists.
9/11 was created by 11 hijackers on 4 planes working for Al Queda. During a cordinated and planned assault over years of preperation, they struck the twin towers and the pentagon. How hard is that to understand
her doesn`t realize anything. he`s just some twat who read "1984", probably for a school assignment, and thought it was cool..
oh, and lol @ idiots who still believe in an inside job.
But he gets a bit carried away with his revolution speech.
However, this shirt doesn`t seem to be causing any kind of disturbance. I can`t fully stand behind that statement, because we`re only hearing one side of the story, but from what this video told us, it does look like an infringement of the boy`s rights.
On the flip side, the principal has the right to do most anything he wants if he believes that it is in the best interest of the school, and the students within it. It is very possible that there is more to the story that we are not being told, but I think that there`s not a whole lot that can be done at this point in time...
It`s like Okay.. PLEASE! You`re not going to start some huge uprise with this little speach. You shoulda stopped your mouth a mile back.
the conspiracy theory conspiracy theory is the conspiracy theory that the government starts conspiracy theories to make it look like they actually do something.
lol jk, i blame saddam, but we have been in the middle east far too long
Yeah, it`s so hard to believe that 1.65 million tons of debris falling on or around Building 7 could have caused it collapse.
It`s much easier to believe that the American government decided to demolish the buildings and cover it up so that we could go to war in the middle east
You can`t just censor people you don`t agree with.
In actuality many organizations have lied to the public about 9/11. Whether the unintentionally left out information or if was in fact intentionally left out, many things are left unknown about the event which leads people to speak out to get their information which has been followed by complete silence leading people to speculate that it was set up, I can see why they believe that.
The censoring of his shirt symbolized to him the complete ignorance of wellfare for the families of the 3000+ that died and are still dieing from disease. Here in NYC there is a major lack of health care for the survivors who were in the general area of the WTC since there is no conclusive evidence that 9/11 has caused disease. his shirt represent the fact that their needs to more public awareness of this matter. If he did not speak out his cause would forever die.
If people never speak out for their cause nothing would get done.
I hope I kind of explained it clearly fo
That haircut is horrible.
the yearbook is the schools property since they are the ones getting it published. they can censor whatever they feel like and its not against any amendments. imo they shouldn`t have folded to a little prepubescent brat.
And why, by the way, does 9-11 truth matter anymore? It`s so stupid now.
The point this kid should be making is the pictures that go to HIM should have it however he is, with his shirt however he wanted. But, the picture that would be in the year book (which is a school publication and should not have views one side vs the other) should be a plain black shirt.
The kid, has a good spirit, but he needs to keep it in check.He should try going to private school for 15+ years, and see what THATS like.....
@stone: i myself didnt take any, but im sure some people did ^^it was a fun day at school ^^
five bucks says this hid wears a guevara shirt from hot topic and thinks hes the first person ever to be such a damn revolutionary.this kid his full of fail. full to the hot damned brim.
Were photos taken of that day at all??? :p
about the topic: wow, i am so glad that i dont live in the us. in my school, nobody would have dared to say anything about my clothes, except perhaps if they were waaaay to sexually explicit. though we had some guys and girls coming to school only in sauna towels and nobody cared.
As do people who don`t have the nerve to question when something doesn`t make sense. Wanna go there? How about Kennedy? Explain the fact that the only piece of evidence we need to find out what really happened, his brain, went missing shortly after the murder? Or the fact that for his funeral, he was in an expensive coffin, but arrived at the actual burial site in a military pine box coffin? Or how about Lincoln? The doctors had the capability to save him, but performed procedures that only sped his death. Look up and research the Knights of the Golden Circle.
I think thats implied
The new world order shall fall in 2012!F FALSE FREEDOM! THATS LIKE PUTTING A TRANS FAT SIGN ON SOMETHING AND MAKING IT SEEM LESS FATTY.
AMERICA IS FALSE AND FAKE, I BELIEVE EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE RIGHTS NO MATTER WHAT YOUR AGE.
It`s funny how people encourage ignorance, but when someone breaks out of that shell, they do everything they can to suppress their minds.
Everyone needs to see Zeitgeist, the Movie.
slow down mary sue. he stands for a legit foundation that was censored and you call him a egotistical brat. hell i`d even say "emo".
take a chill pill an
Uh, yeah they do. That kid is a minor a minor, first of all, and when it comes to other students, the school has the right to do whatever it feels is necessary to protect them."
im not up on yankee laws but one fact i do know is that the constitution is not allowed to be breached, unless it the thing involved breaches homeland security and/or threatens/terrorizes the state.You may be a US citazen and live by these rules so dont try to use that against me, i studied for 2years on the law of America and its bill of rights.what they did to this kid was pointless, and because of it has broken federal laws
thank you and goodnight
That said, the kid paid for the photos (form a private company, no less), so the responsible thing to do would have been to give him his photos unaltered and inform him they would be edited for the yearbook.
I have seen more posts on various websites exactly like this than I have of smart, articulated responses from the so-called Truthers.
Seems to me that they are hostile, arrogant, and unable to accept the fact that some people just don`t agree with them.
Some of us actually research these things a lot further than people give us credit for. We study video documents. We look back at the stock market, and see that airline stocks were at an all time high right before the attacks. The internet is just a forum for our own research where we can share ideas. We STILL research those facts to make sure they`re plausible. Don`t try to shake us off as being unintelligent and sheepish. We apparently have more intelligence, collectively, than you do. Try researching sometime. You`d be surprised at the things you can learn. Nothing comes at face value anymore.
Uh, yeah they do. That kid is a minor a minor, first of all, and when it comes to other students, the school has the right to do whatever it feels is necessary to protect them. I`m not saying that this is one of those examples. But that kid acting like he can do whatever the hell he feels like without the school doing anything about it, is just stupid.
Speaking from the other side of the fence, I feel that you are the sheep. You have been force fed the idea that 9-11 was an accident. Match the facts with the fiction and nothing fits together right. What happened to building 7? It was structurally sound. You believe the Patriot Act was a good thing. Look into it. The Germans used the same tactics on the Jews.
anyway, getting back to what i want to say. Let the kid exercise his rights. This WAS the land of the free. Now its just land of the slave and home of the bullies.
Again, I`m all for upholding the constitution, but there is a major clash between the education system and the constitution, especially when it comes to the right to have a concealed weapon on you person.
Those who believe in the so called 9/11 Conspiracies are simply showing belief in FACTS instead of what the media has fed us. People who read into these things are showing a lot more intelligence than those who are accepting the media`s hacked up stories. Our country is NOT what people are being led o believe. Those with a brain realize that something is amiss and that we the people no longer have the power we once did. So for all those who refuse to respect the views of the people who are actually doing the research, maybe you should move to places liuke Russia or China where you thoughts and opinions really DON`T matter. This country was founded on Democracy. Think for yourself and have your own opinions. Don`t be sheep and follow the norm, just because the mainstream media tells you to.
Because youtube is notorious for havingits videos go off from the motion/audio for anything over certain times. In other words... the synchronization is off a bit.
Haha. anyone who watches that and believes a word of it should just drink the kool-aid cause they will believe anything.
Hahahahha!!!!! Nice, I approve. :D
This is why I hate reading up on current events in the news. People and organizations like this truly disgust me.
I am glad the kid is standing up for what he believes in, good for him,. But, the principal is not wrong. Likey what happened was the photo shop called the school saying, "you know there is one kid that has a big fat "9-11" in your face on his t-shirt?.... what do you want me to do about it?" And the principal probably nerfed it.
Now, the kid should have gotten back his prints doctored, but the school has every right to censor it for the yearbook. My guess is that it was a little more expensive to get two prints for this kid, so the school decided to go for the shopped ones. Its close to a toss up, but in court the kid loses, the precedent has already been set.
Now onto his BS. I distinctly saw 9-11 Health Now in the screen while he was proclaiming the deeds of Truth Now. Is it the same organization? If so, why not wear a 9-11 Health Now shirt?
No, this kid is only there to flame. He wants controversy. He wanted his stupid photo in the yearbook and for the calls to come in while he sat back smugly saying, "First Amendment!"
you have the right to choose a school that has uniforms, or one that doesnt. he is free to express himself, and it is not an offensive shirt, if it isnt against school policy then the principal cant remove it
And no, there is no right to wear whatever you`d like to at school. That is why some places require uniforms. Freedom of speech does not equate to the right to wear whatever you`d like to.