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Most sane people.
Oh wait nevermind. They already are.
Jeez I wouldn`t be afraid... you`ll come home and your parents will be like "Opie Dear, some bad news..." and you`ll be like "YES!!! YES!!! I`M GONNA BE FRIKKIN RICH OR FAMOUS OR SOMETHING!!!!! SEE YA LOSERS!!!"
And this is just sad.. I`m always afraid someone I love will die right before something amazing happens in my life.
But let`s be real here, given the fuss, any past sermons which DID have content like that would have been quietly removed when the poo hit the fan for Obama. BUT the thing is, its the job of a church to preach - you can win lots of friends preaching "God loves you all no matter how bad you are", but you can`t win many people`s souls into Heaven that way. Jesus Himself said "I come not to bring peace but a sword". You can`t equate what Obama`s church preaches with what he believes, no-one in history went to a church that 100% agreed with them on everything. You go to one that you are comfortable with that GENERALLY feels right. If OBAMA really IS a black supremacist he won`t last long, if NOT then no problem.
Poll with one simple question - who will win?
Please don`t say it`s inappropriate either... I`m ->| |<- this close to feeling like a cam whore.
i`m sure every guy on this thread would not be opposed to more boobies, but noone likes a boobie-thunder thief.
Obama`s peace trumps McCain`s best laid plans.
Obama really has gotten a lot of people fired up and a lot more people than usual are projected to vote... hopefully they actually will.
Has it? That`s interesting, we haven`t been told that over here yet... hmmm that WILL make it interesting. Win or lose, more people voting is a Good Thing, so kudo`s to Obama for that at least. And at the end of the day, even if he loses, no-one can say he didn`t "fight the good fight"
No, I am definitely NOT anti-bewb. Unfortunately for me, and you, I`m old and wise enough to know there is a time and a place for bewbies, and this isn`t it :-(
Also, on topic, I think you`re wrong as far as your one vote not mattering between Mccain and Obama, amaqdrinker. Each vote matters.
Unfortunately, I DON`T see Obama as a shoe-in even though logically he should be, because I`m just not SURE yet that the US has outgrown racism to the extend of electing a black President. That`s partly why I call Obama a Pretender, of necessity he has had to "play down" his blackness and "act white" to have any chance at all. Or maybe I`M the racist for seeing it that way, I don`t know.
Sadly though, the fact is that only 50% of people vote at best, and they are predominantly white middle class Americans who will go with the familiar "grandfather" image of McCain. Can Obama convince lower-classes who don`t normally vote to get out and do it this time, and will that make a difference? We can`t predict.
and that frowny face really means something because i never use frowny faces.
which means it`s even harder to fix
thats true but its really dismal. our problem is that our economic system is currently raping our political system. we have a democracy run by capitalism.
I know, Palin scares the sh*t out of me, but i think that Obama is going to win in a landslide. but that doesn`t mean that i agree with him necessarily, he`s a lesser of two evils, and really my vote is not going to decide the election, and i dont want to vote like that
i think i`m with you six claws and i might be voting third party."
Good choice. There`s this great man I know of, you may have heard of him. He goes by the name of Dr. Ron Paul.
im suggesting that obama did. a lot of people, unfortunately, choose religion out of formality. just go through the motions etc.
Lionhart, sorry to drop you in the poostorm, hope you don`t mind, I`m crashing (5AM in Euro-land). Laters.
I can only speak for Australia, but the answer here is definitely "No" - we have our inter-party debates and run-up-to-the-election wank, but the whole country realises that all politicians are greedy no-good lazy self-interested bastards whichever party they`re in, so its not like this US fervour.
Although I must say you can`t really be anti-both options, I mean, if you HAD to choose."
Asking me to choose between those two is like asking me to choose between cancer in the right or left testicle; it doesn`t really matter, it`s gonna suck.
Sixclaws, I love your last two points."
Why thank you. I`m mildly fond of them myself.
ooh, that made me cringe, goddamn our bipartisan system.
Lionhart, you got this? I`m out.
2)Vote for whoever the hell you want
3) I thought we were promised bewbs!
(A) There are more than six billion people in this world. Coincidences, some extremely bizarre, are going to happen.
(B) How does a dead relative get someone more votes? People do not vote out of sympathy, and by this stage in the campaign nearly everyone has made up their mind.
(C) Can you possibly imagine the consequences of Obama killing anyone, let alone his grandmother? At such a coincidental time, there is bound to be scrutiny, and getting away with murder under the eyes of the entire world would be nearly impossible.
(D) She was 86.
(E) She had cancer.
that`s legitimate. i`m not trying to add to this flame war at all but thats the idea behind groups like the nation of islam and the black panthers.
Davy that one really sent me LMAOing, you have a knifelike sense of cutting to the chase sometimes! :-)
9-11 was caused by pissed-off muslims. The moon landings were real. O.J. did it.
Now let`s ask ourselves: Deep down, do we truly and honestly beleive, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that this was pure coincidence, that this all happened by chance, that we know the whole story."
Why would a relative dying get the man more votes? You don`t vote for the candidate in the worst mood...
Great idea, wanker. Let`s carve the 86 year old cancer-riddled bitch up with scalpels, just to make sure she`s not faking it.
On a slightly different note, um, has this got slightly off-topic?? I mean not that I object to bewbs as a topic but... wasn`t there something way back in history there somewhere about someone dying?
You dumb sh*t.
If you have been paying ANY attention to how Obama has run his campaign you would absolutely know this isn`t "fishy." He is an honest, sincere, respectable guy that even when for the most part he could`ve taken unfair jabs at the McCain campaign he didn`t. He`s run an admirable, on track, respectable, organized campaign and people from all sides of the aisles can give him that.
Only a f*cking moron would think he would have to pull something like what you are suggesting at this point.
Lauraly, best ever. No doubt. Hands down. You successfully have a hard object for whatever use you want it for.
(The avatar should be changing soon guys and gals)
Now let`s ask ourselves: Deep down, do we truly and honestly beleive, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that this was pure coincidence, that this all happened by chance, that we know the whole story. Think about that tommorow when you`re standing in the voting booth. Think hard. Don`t be afraid to question.
Christ almighty on a f*cking bicycle, will someone please take this fool down for me? Questioning implies intelligence, turtle. Even a hint of f*cking humanity, if that`s not too much of a stretch.
p.s. Did I come late to the party? Am I the dude who spent far too long making a skillfully-crafted retort when the conversation moved on to Lauraly`s boobies (as usual) half an hour ago?
No scratch that!!!(Starts packing bags)
Why should you be the first at everything? :-P <3
(Edit) or should that be :-| :-|
Oh FFS, no prizes for guessing where YOU stand on 9/11 and the Moon Landings. Isn`t it possible that the strain and tension of the approaching event was too much for an old lady to take any more? Or that she had to die SOMETIME? Or that she should have died a month ago but has been desperately pushing the envelope of every available drug and treatment jsut to hold on until the big day, but her body just couldn`t take it any more? Honestly Turtle, listen carefully - "The Government doesn`t want YOU to jump off a high bridge"
POLITICAL GAIN! POLITICAL GAIN! POLITICAL GAIN!
Remember, the Watergate break-in wasn`t done or authorized by Nixon himself.
There has GOT to be something more to this story. It`s just too much of a coincidence. Of ALL the days, This happens on this particular day? I`m afraid that people aren`t questioning this as much as they should. Not speculating, mind you, but questioning.
Seconded. And pictures should be given out as well.
She died in her sleep. No one could ask for a more peaceful way to go."
Too boring for me. You only get one death, I want mine to be exciting.
Though I will admit they are rather "full" on the cheekbone.
I missed the boob pic... :(
best wishes to him.
Cause we can`t see that in your avatar anyway lol. Actually I think its the deep, large eyes and the cute little slightly pudgy cheeks that make you wanna just pinch em and go "giggly goo goo go giggly goo goo". Or it could be the sparkling personality? LOL
...very hard indeed.
Actually.. I think I`d prefer a big hard object... the better to work our my frustrations.... (and you can let your mind take that wherever you`d like, I know I did.)
I`m not, but I am saying it makes it appear like that. The fact that we are arguing / discussing this is disrespectful to her image.
And that is my point - it does nothing more than add sympathy to Obama, at the expense of her life. I don`t blame him, I blame new companies feeling a need to report this and us for talking about it.
I will "eff off" my good sir, and actually respect the woman`s loss instead of spewing garbage like "omg what will he feel?" and "Zomg even though I didn`t know her I should act like she was an important part of my life."
That and thoughts of racks. Win-Win.
That sucks. It also means one less vote for him."
That is an excellent and hilarious point I had not yet considered. Sad for him though.
*repeats mantra whilst rocking back and forth: you`re a mod. you`re a mod. you`re a mod. put down the gun. you`re a mod*
Seriously, not too long ago Jennifer Hudson`s family was murdered and that was all over the news... she`s *just* an actress. Why did that have to be brought into the public forum?
Also.. eff off... she was his caretaker, of course he`s going to be upset about her passing.. what? He just has to hide that so non-nice individuals like you don`t freaking attack him?
And yet they felt a need to inform us now, or ever. Once again I don`t believe any one here really cares about the woman, only that she was Obama`s grandmother.
How can one respect a woman`s death when they feel the need to prop her corpse into the spotlight?
"HA HA HA HA!" quoth the turtle.
Commence Turtle Bashing!
I told you he was a troll.
What a terrible coincidence.Bless them.
Man, thanks for showing up at last. I know we disagree on many things, but I think (hope) we at least share a mutual respect for each other`s differences. Now that you`re here, we might get an injection of intelligence from a conservative standpoint.
As I said to crackr before, rest assured that I (as a liberal) in no way think that turtle represents all conservatives. No sarcasm, just being honest.
@turtle. His f*cking grandmother just died, and the best you can come up with is "How Convenient?" How bout you go post somewhere else for a while? May I suggest you try ebaumsworld, or perhaps 4chan? They`re crying out for people like you.
It`s called acting like a human being, prick. You know, sympathy, compassion, respect? Try it on sometime.
and so it was that IAB was reunited.
And, Lauraly, I do have to say, you have a lovely face. It`s not all about the rack...most of the time.
Aww.. that was really sweet, thank you.
(Don`t worry guys, I`m not really that into my breasts... it`s all in good fun. My mom likes to remind me that I didn`t do a damn thing to get these melons, I was just "lucky" and that it`s my personality that counts. )
And wcclark, I totally agree. I feel a tad disrespectful... but Davy started it!!! *points finger*
Though I do want to talk about it...and stalk it.
As a Conservative, I offer my condolences to Obama`s family. It doesn`t change my vote, but I really feel for the guy. If anyone does vote for him out of sympathy, they are moronic. It should be all about the issues. It is a very tough thing to deal with though, I mean death and all. I don`t think it is moral to question the motives of her death though turtle. If it did turn out the way you say, don`t think it won`t be in the news before tomorrow, but its just such a jackass thing to make comments like you did.
And to inform the american public of this news the night before election day instead of telling Obama secretly and keep the american public away from it degrades the value of her life.
Hey Lauraly, if there`s a position open for cyber psuedo-stalker...yo? ;)
This is i-am-bored.com, not i-feel-like-visiting-a-website-where-I-can-get-really-agitated-and-pissed-off.com
How bout you do everyone a favour and stop talking for a while?
I assume you`ve heard the saying about a woman scorned and all that.... >-(
I hate Obama but I highly doubt this death to be a conspiracy, just her time to die - something that is expected with a woman her age. Not news, just the obvious.
Portion of lolsauce in a roflcopter and all that. Dude, you own the world, that is AWESOME.
*wipes away tear of joy*
I`m not saying that it`s fake or anything.I`m just saying, a little...odd.
Oh and for all the morons who are saying,"His grandmother was white?!?!? WELL NOW that don`t make any darn sense"
Don`t vote tomorrow.
And soapoperaguy, I don`t think turtle`s a troll. I think he`s just an insensitive prick because his only response when he first read this was "HA HA HA"
Crackr, as you know I`m pretty über-liberal, and I just wanted you to know that despite our political disagreements in the past (intelligent debate), in no way do I or anyone else (I hope) associate intelligent people like yourself with f*cking gluebags like turtle.
P.S: Turtledude wou are an a**hole. You could have expressed how you felt about this in a different way. (This is just what happens in life, that is how mother nature rolls) It was stupid of you to say stuff like that and to me, it just seems like you want attention.
Yeah definitely. Just like that one day she must have purposely got sick to prevent Obama from doing a campaign he had planned so he could visit with her. She has had cancer for a long time and obviously her body just couldn`t hold on for one more day. Why does everything that hapens have to be some kind of conspiracy. A sick woman died. That`s all. Stop trying to look for things that aren`t there.
Amazing how people actually believe what`s in those political ads.
Seriously...Think about it...you may not want to admit it on the internet, but in your heart you know somethings fishy here.
Obama: Turtledude, BRING IT!
You`re a moron. Plain and simple. In fact, I feel bad responding to you because it only makes me look foolish.
Stay classy, dickwad.
Turtle is awesome though, fighting his one-man battle against the forces of decency and rationality
Why yes, yes I do believe I did. This is how we roll round these parts. Deleted posts and bans are too easy, they only serve to hide evidence of abhorrent douchbaggery such as laughing at someone`s grandmother dying on the eve of the biggest day of their life.
Umm, no we`re not. This is IAB, we`re all about freedom of speech, he can say any damn thing he wants (however tasteless) as long as he doesn`t break any rules or start to stray into the murky realm of trolling.
Fellow IABers, you got a problem with turtle, hang him out to dry, full salvo, do whatever you will. Like this (personal message from me):
"Turtle, stop being such a f*cking windowlicker, you tasteless dick."
*p.s. Definition of Windowlicker: Have you ever been stuck in traffic behind the Special Bus?
I feel so bad for him.
And how does Bristol Palin have anything to do with a dead family member.
GIVE IT UP, IF YOU`RE GOING TO DEBATE, DO IT TASTEFULLY. NOBODY IS HATING YOU BECAUSE YOU SUPPORT MCCAIN, BUT IT`S BECAUSE YOU INSULT SOMEBODY USING THEIR DEAD GRANDMOTHER.
And even if Barack Obama was a crazy terrorist/communist/black supremest/etc...I think he`s a hell of a lot better than you. At least he`s got some dignity.
We never said it was. Just don`t bring his dead grandmother into it.
And Nerd, I agree. That`s for tomorrow.
...and its OK he was a member of a racist, black-supremacist church for 20 years...
That was epicly tasteless. You should be ashamed.
There is a time and place for attacks, but to bring somebody`s newly dead grandmother into it is not the time.
And before you make the argument, we certainly would not do it to John Mccain(ok, some nutjob probably would, but I wouldn`t...)
You`ve got mods and Fancylad about ready to put a boot up your ass. I can understand you`re not a democrat, but that`s no excuse to be downright cruel about this. How would you like it if I made fun of your grandmother dying?
Will hate-speech master Reverend Wright perform the funeral service?
And will domestic terrorist William Ayers be paying his respects?
yea.... hhhhmmmmm.... )-|
shame couldn`t bear just one more day :(
i must say tho he looks pretty yound in that pic
when someone dies, that`s not the forum to be a jerk in--regulars (and non-regulars) don`t take kindly to that.
And again, my deepest respects to Barack...and the complete opposite of that to Turtledude.
turteldude, seriously sort your life out. i don`t give a flying drat who you support i think laughing like that is douchey. twat
so close, he can taste it and this happens. at least he was prepared and he knew it was a possibility.
plus, i`m sure his gran was already proud of him.
Much as I`d like to Lauraly, I`m wrestling with my Inner Mod, who must remain impartial at all times. Unfortunatley there`s no IAB rule against being a douchebag (sh*t, otherwise we`d never get done with banning...).
One post does not a troll make. Rest assured, I`ll be keeping an eye on turtle for repeated and sustained douchebaggery over time, aka trolling, in which case a ban could be in order.
Cameron: I`m sorry, Ed, did you say you wanted to see a body?
Rooney: Yeah, that`s right, just, uh, roll her old bones on over here, and I`ll dig up your daughter. You know that`s school policy.
Was anyone else surprised that she was white?
I have a hat and a half of respect for Obama. I hope he wins.
Obama would rather loose a grandmother than loose an election.
My heart goes out to Obama and his family.
(also Turtle.. you`re a jackass and a troll, and I really hope you`re banned)
I hope you feel good about yourself
very mature of you.