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Date: 11/13/08 10:34 PM

82 Responses to Marine Shouts Hillarious Things to Insurgents

  1. Profile photo of LoofahBoy
    LoofahBoy Male 18-29
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    November 13, 2008 at 7:05 pm
    Link: Marine Shouts Hillarious Things to Insurgents - See, even soldiers get bored sometimes... (18+ NSFW language)
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    DHise Male 13-17
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    November 13, 2008 at 10:42 pm
    Ha ha.
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    sixclaws13 Male 18-29
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    November 13, 2008 at 10:42 pm
    Odd choice of words.
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    Eddy23 Male 18-29
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    November 13, 2008 at 10:43 pm
    Would be a lot more funny if I could actually understand what he`s saying.
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    _Perfection_ Male 18-29
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    November 13, 2008 at 10:46 pm
    I couldn`t understand a word of that.
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    Ajikan Male 18-29
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    November 13, 2008 at 10:49 pm
    that was boring as drat
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    Androgynous Male 18-29
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    November 13, 2008 at 10:50 pm
    What...just...happened?
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    j-b0ne Male 13-17
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    November 13, 2008 at 10:51 pm
    Id join the army. just because id get to yell gibberish at insurgents while eating lollipops.
    Ooh-Rah.
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    RandyTheFool Male 18-29
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    November 13, 2008 at 10:51 pm
    aallaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh ACKBAR! (It`s a trap!)

    hehehe, funny stuff.

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    Iroj Female 18-29
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    November 13, 2008 at 11:04 pm
    He shoulda ended it with "ITS A TRAP!"
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    November 13, 2008 at 11:05 pm
    Mortar me now Allah!!
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    peloos12 Male 18-29
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    November 13, 2008 at 11:08 pm
    Dirka dirka?
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    powpowking Male 13-17
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    November 13, 2008 at 11:33 pm
    lmao......real nice. breaking their cover by telling where they are.......noobs....
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    famajah Male 18-29
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    November 14, 2008 at 12:00 am
    That`s not even funny. That non-nice individual`s making fun of an aspect of islam, not the insurgents. Racist bastard.
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    AnwarNova Male 18-29
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    November 14, 2008 at 12:02 am
    Yeah. Make fun of people`s religion, in their own country. I mean, who needs respect these days? I think his actions were really just a classy, creative approach to making friends.
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    Mani-Jac Male 40-49
    805 posts
    November 14, 2008 at 12:18 am
    That`s how you get the local people behind your actions....making fun of their call to prayer, at least I think that`s what I heard in the background.

    Arab people should try to make fun of christianity while people go to mass in the US, see who`s laughing then...

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    vicious_liar Male 13-17
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    November 14, 2008 at 12:39 am
    What a dickhead...that`s not funny. Although I couldn`t care less if it is about their religion...it`s just not funny.
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    NZ_Life Male 18-29
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    November 14, 2008 at 12:58 am
    No wonder why they keep getting shot...
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    RickyGTO Male 18-29
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    November 14, 2008 at 12:59 am
    They are gonna get pwned if they don`t stop, think of a flanking maneuver in counter strike.
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    bankvole Male 30-39
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    November 14, 2008 at 1:17 am
    As someone who comes from Northern Ireland, and had to put up with the British army`s `antics` I can tell you its oppression and incitement. Oh, and he`s not shouting it at insurgents, he`s shouting it at everyone, law-abiding citizen and insurgent alike.
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    steve41high Male 18-29
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    November 14, 2008 at 1:50 am
    wow more racism.
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    bataleon27 Male 18-29
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    November 14, 2008 at 1:50 am
    "As someone who comes from Northern Ireland, and had to put up with the British army`s `antics` I can tell you its oppression and incitement. Oh, and he`s not shouting it at insurgents, he`s shouting it at everyone, law-abiding citizen and insurgent alike."


    they were american soldiers.....

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    Mind_Madness Male 18-29
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    November 14, 2008 at 2:27 am
    This is not hilarious at all... Plain sadness
  24. Profile photo of Pi-rat
    Pi-rat Male 18-29
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    November 14, 2008 at 3:25 am
    He`s doing this so that the insurgents can`t get any sleep, lol at all of you that think hes just being a dick. He`s been told to do this, the less sleep the enemy gets, the less agility they have. To all of you who think its racism and ignorant, keep in mind that they are just doing their jobs and working to defeat the enemy, war isn`t a an easy task and requires more smarts than just shooting back and forth. Sometimes you have to outsmart the enemy without them even realizing it. Also, to any of you who think that this is a bad idea as they might get flanked, keep in mind that insurgents are currently losing the war, they do not have the personnel or weaponry to flank a US army base, do you guys really know whats going on at all?
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    emzrok Female 13-17
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    November 14, 2008 at 3:27 am
    he was making up words and pretending to be like...idk, islamic or something.
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    emzrok Female 13-17
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    November 14, 2008 at 3:27 am
    wait...islamic...thats not it...

    ahh screw it, i dont know.

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    Mind_Madness Male 18-29
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    November 14, 2008 at 4:06 am
    @Pi-rat-- This vid must be fake, the guy just wanted his idiot family to see him viral. US bases are stationed mostly in or around towns, so if it`s not fake he will probably wake up just townspeople. Iraqi soldiers don`t have bases, they are people`s millitia, they are most of the time incognito. Therefore, he is in the security of his own base, therefore, he will wake up his brothers in arms as well. He is not in no man`s land because that would be too dangerous. Summa Summarum: The guy is a dick, and if you think you know a lot about Iraqi war, think again, how much money did US spent there, how many people lost, and what is gained?
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    Evytyn Male 18-29
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    November 14, 2008 at 4:10 am
    Pi-rat wrote:

    He`s been told to do this, the less sleep the enemy gets, the less agility they have. To all of you who think its racism and ignorant, keep in mind that they are just doing their jobs and working to defeat the enemy...

    I understand that he`s doing his "job". But what makes him racist and/or ignorant is the fact that he and his friend seem to be enjoying it. Of course, for all i know, he could have been ordered to enjoy being racist and ignorant, in which case i commend him for a job well done.

    I respect our soldiers, and i respect what they do and have done for us in the past. But that doesn`t mean i have to condone ignorance.

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    ZURI Male 18-29
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    November 14, 2008 at 4:49 am
    SO IF HE gets sniped ////i am to commend him for a good job?
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    November 14, 2008 at 5:03 am
    vv "he was making up words and pretending to be like...idk, islamic or something"

    Arabic?

  31. Profile photo of TKD_Master
    TKD_Master Male 18-29
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    November 14, 2008 at 5:15 am
    okay, if its to drat with civilians, the guy needs to get sniped in the leg. if its to drat with the enemy, then the guy needs to get a medal of awesomeness.

    and if they want to keep the enemy awake, why not fire loud poo at them every now and then?

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    davymid Male 30-39
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    November 14, 2008 at 5:17 am
    vv "He`s doing this so that the insurgents can`t get any sleep, lol at all of you that think hes just being a dick. He`s been told to do this, the less sleep the enemy gets, the less agility they have. To all of you who think its racism and ignorant, keep in mind that they are just doing their jobs and working to defeat the enemy, war isn`t a an easy task and requires more smarts than just blahblahblah"

    Sure Pi, they`re just doing their job. How dare anyone suggest that the troops sometimes make fun of the locals by taking advantage of their ignorance of our language? I mean, that would be a cheap shot, no way our troops would stoop that low...


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    TKD_Master Male 18-29
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    November 14, 2008 at 5:18 am
    hey evytyn, i think 90-95% of the human population in his age group would drating love to do that, i would do it if it were to mess with the enemy, and i`d love it. and im not racist, except to mexicans for some reason.
  34. Profile photo of D3
    D3 Male 13-17
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    November 14, 2008 at 5:21 am
    Even he was "doing his job" he`s a prick for doing it during what sounds like a call to prayer.
  35. Profile photo of TKD_Master
    TKD_Master Male 18-29
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    November 14, 2008 at 5:21 am
    haha, remember guys, our troops are human beings, and we are rather diverse in what we will do, for example, some troops would never ever think of doing davymids sign thing, obviously some do.

    P.S. about my last post, i got a fairly good mexican friend, i just hate the sterotypical mexicans wehre theres like 12 of em living in a house wit no running water...oh and i drating hate spanish. spanish should die. forever.

  36. Profile photo of quick_sand8
    quick_sand8 Female 40-49
    466 posts
    November 14, 2008 at 6:20 am
    He`s not being a Dick! I would get sick and tired of it too! I can`t even BEGIN to imagine the sH*T they have witnessed!!! And if what he`s doing pisses the "bad guys" off, give the guy a friggen metal!! Sympathetic, me? Not a damn bit!! I have two kids in the military. Could give a crap less if the insurgents prayer time is disturbed!! Hope it pissed them off but good!!! Sorry, post 9/11 I don`t give a sh**T!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    lemmingboy15 Male 18-29
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    November 14, 2008 at 6:27 am
    Sure Pi, they`re just doing their job. How dare anyone suggest that the troops sometimes make fun of the locals by taking advantage of their ignorance of our language? I mean, that would be a cheap shot, no way our troops would stoop that low...

    yes davymind and when insurgents strap bombs onto women and children and hide among the citizens and use that as an advantage so we don`t know who the enemy is until being fired upon, its extremely easy to know who and where the enemy is. we should direct the soundwaves straight to the insurgents ears next times.

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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 14, 2008 at 7:08 am
    If we just bomb them with sunshine and lollypops they`ll stop making fanatic religious terrorist groups jeez guys.
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    McDuff73 Male 30-39
    870 posts
    November 14, 2008 at 7:31 am
    The guy is an arse and anyone that told him to `keep the enemy awake` has forgotten that it probably would keep the local population awake too, you know the people that coalition forces are there to help! Its acts like that that give the insurgents propaganda to be able to recruit locals. When are they going to learn that you cannot beat everyone into submission and that winning hearts and minds is as valuable a tool in limiting the enemys ability to function as overwhelming firepower?
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    Nidonemo Male 18-29
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    November 14, 2008 at 7:37 am
    Ignorance on both sides. Fighting is wasteful.
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    trailleadr Male 40-49
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    November 14, 2008 at 7:47 am
    Antagonizing the enemy... a sure fire way to get sniped.
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    hypno1 Male 30-39
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    November 14, 2008 at 8:47 am
    Nidonemo - "Fighting is wasteful."
    Yeah...tell that to the founding fathers of the US. Things were going so well up to the point where the fighting started. Oh wait, I forgot...that`s how nations are born.

    McDuff73 - "winning hearts and minds is as valuable a tool in limiting the enemys ability to function as overwhelming firepower?"
    Hate to break it to you, but you`re not going to win the hearts and minds of the people we are fighting over there. I know, I`ve been there. We are fighting insurgents, not the typical Iraqi. And they don`t respond to high-fives and dinner invitations.

    RickyGTO - "They are gonna get pwned if they don`t stop, think of a flanking maneuver in counter strike."
    The only thing I`m thinking is the word "Retard". Come out of your parents basement and join the real world. Wars aren`t like video games. I know, you have your wireless headset and all...but don`t think for a second you know anything ab

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    SwissNipsUK Male 18-29
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    November 14, 2008 at 8:53 am
    Wow nice one yanks , proffesional , god i hate being stuck for six months in a crappy country with bloody yanks

    i hope that guy gets sniped then corpse humped

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    McDuff73 Male 30-39
    870 posts
    November 14, 2008 at 9:16 am
    You dont need to win the hearts and minds of the insurgents you need to kill them but what you do need is to win the hearts and minds of the people you are supposed to be there to help! that will then diminish the ability of the insurgents to operate, its basic military thinking and by not using it you simply prolong the war and increase the number of dead coalition troops sent home.
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    TkeSora Female 18-29
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    November 14, 2008 at 9:57 am
    I have a friend who is willing to do exactly this if they draft him in the war. But he`ll do it in broad daylight, several steps from them. VV;;
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    AGit Male 30-39
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    November 14, 2008 at 10:36 am
    @ hypno1 - "Nidonemo - "Fighting is wasteful."
    Yeah...tell that to the founding fathers of the US." combined with "I know, I`ve been there. We are fighting insurgents, not the typical Iraqi." is quite funny.
    So you`re defending the actions of the founding fathers, which could perfectly be considered as acts of terrorism, and then you went over to Iraq to prevent people that consider you to be invaders, which you are, to succeed. You have a strange brain, lad...
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    AGit Male 30-39
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    November 14, 2008 at 10:39 am
    @ TDK Master, don`t worry, all spaniards die eventually. But why, may I ask, do you wish to accelarate their demise? Just curious...
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    AGit Male 30-39
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    November 14, 2008 at 10:43 am
    @ quick sand8, if you don`t want your kids to, as you say, "witness s*HT", don`t let them go, simple. And if you believe that Iraq and 9/11 are related, you have a funny brain, just like hypno1. Nothing wrong with that, mind you...
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    November 14, 2008 at 11:12 am
    vv "I have a friend who is willing to do exactly this... But he`ll do it in broad daylight, several steps from them"

    No offence Sora, but I strongly suspect your friend is all talk, no bollocks.

  50. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    November 14, 2008 at 11:17 am
    "Oh dear, they`re mocking me, my friends, my culture and my religion. Whatever am I going to do? Shall I put down my weapon and renounce my violent ways, or shall I add it to my list of reasons why I want to kill them?"

    Let me paint a picture, so that any supporters of this idiot might get a better idea of how stupid this is; the police surrounding some black, catholic criminals holding hostages in a house in a mostly black, catholic area, somewhere in one of your American cities...and one of them gets a smart idea to taunt them over loudhailer, mocking the mannerisms of a priest performing Mass, and calling them I am a racist!s...then turning to the crowd of residents watching, saying "Don`t worry, we`re here to protect you..."

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    themonorail Male 18-29
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    November 14, 2008 at 11:19 am
    i love the lollipop
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    sam8380 Male 18-29
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    November 14, 2008 at 11:25 am
    put it into context....its not the most smartest thing ever to do, but hes letting off steam in a warzone. in screwed up places your sense of humout gets screwed up too. its how the mind tends to keep pace with wierd/bad stuff going on. and at the end of the day its just a loud speaker. hes not shooting/hitting/blowing up anyone. put it into context...its not disneyland out there.
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    NoSympathy Male 13-17
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    November 14, 2008 at 11:51 am
    Sniper!
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    basketkase Male 18-29
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    November 14, 2008 at 11:54 am
    that was hilarious fu-ck anyone who says it wasnt...

    when you go there then you can say its uncalled for until then stfu

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    TieDyePlatap Male 18-29
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    November 14, 2008 at 11:56 am
    He said your a professional speaker
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    IONIC Male 18-29
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    November 14, 2008 at 12:42 pm
    It`s good to let off steam. i just hope he doesn`t get his ass shot off in the process of venting said steam.

    And it`s not like he shot a dog or something.

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    mearnhart Female 18-29
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    November 14, 2008 at 1:03 pm
    hahaahhah i loved that
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    Gerbear Female 18-29
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    November 14, 2008 at 1:06 pm
    I have a feeling this is extreeemely offensive.
    And the fact that he`s just holdin` a lollipop adds to the ridiculousness of it all.
    Words escape me.
    @davymind, is that picture real? That`s so sad and horrible.
    There are jackholes everywhere, even in the military.
    @SwissNips, people still use the word "yank"?
  59. Profile photo of hypno1
    hypno1 Male 30-39
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    November 14, 2008 at 1:43 pm
    AGit

    Don`t get self-rightous with me. You have no idea what they think we are. You think you do because you watch BBC News every night and feel good about yourself because you and your "enlightened" buddies sit around the pub and tell each other how right you are. Your problem with you and people of your ilk is you don`t have the stones to stand up for people who can`t stand up for themselves. Where were you when Saddam was murdering hundreds of thousands because of their religious beliefs? Have you ever walked a street in Baghdad or Tikrit and asked an ordinary Iraqi what they thought? Didn`t think so. I have. Are there some there who don`t want us there? Sure. But for the most part they want the changes that we are facilitating, and know that if we leave now that the power vacuum created will throw their country into chaos. But you`re right...we should have left a brutal dictator in place so he could celebrate himself more while his people starved and lived in s

  60. Profile photo of Pindragon
    Pindragon Male 18-29
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    November 14, 2008 at 1:57 pm
    I think everyone here needs to calm down a sec.

    Yes, it is offensive what he did, but it probaby also let of some steam for him.

    Yes, it is funny to us, but how funny will it be when the next film we see with him in it is his flag draped coffin coming home?

    We don`t even know the situation here. For all we know, they could be in the middle of a city, screaming into that thing, offending hundreds. OR, they could be out in some trench, miles away from population faced off with a group of insurgents equally pinned down.

    The fact that there is no telling what this situation truly is should give us all a hint that not everything here is as it seems.

    Don`t judge this to quickly, and don`t judge it to lightly.

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    PeproniPizza Male 13-17
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    November 14, 2008 at 2:02 pm
    Way to go!
  62. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    November 14, 2008 at 5:26 pm
    Letting off steam?

    How is that an acceptable excuse? That was the same excuse used for what went on at Abu Ghraib.

    How can you suggest that the stress of a JOB that someone FREELY CHOSE to do is an excuse for acting in a grossly offensive and counterproductive way?

    Even if there were no civilians around to hear that soldier, you can bet there are plenty who will get to hear him through this video and the internet. Even if you put aside the moral issue here, you still have the relations problem this is adding to. Many people already think poorly of the American occupation of Iraq. Don`t you think this video is going to add to that perception? If this soldier is working for a military and a government that is trying to get support for its actions in the middle east, and convince the people there to give them their support, don`t you think maybe this is harming that, that this soldier is doing his job badly?

    But hey, he`s just letting off steam, right?

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    opiebreath Female 18-29
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    November 14, 2008 at 8:05 pm
    I think while this behavior isn`t surprising, it definitely isn`t appropriate either.

    There.

  64. Profile photo of Eichenkatze
    Eichenkatze Male 18-29
    780 posts
    November 15, 2008 at 3:39 am
    Eh, you`re stuck in the desert where you don`t want to be for three years.. stuff like this is bound to happen. There`s another video I caught of a soldier in iraq checking cars and making impressions of famous US TV stars. Only a couple caught on and knew what he was doing. The rest thought it was normal. He was still doing his job and being nice.. just.. fooling around.

    Eh- I can`t really blame them. I`ve also seen videos of Iraqi`s poking fun at, impersonating (jokingly), and fooling around at the expense of our US soldiers.


    We`re human. We aren`t perfect.

  65. Profile photo of Sorax3
    Sorax3 Male 13-17
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    November 15, 2008 at 3:58 am
    Hey you can`t expect someone to stay constntly in war for 3 years and be serious all the time. People get bored, but I can see how this could be offensive. Still like Pindragon said, he could be in a completely secluded area.
  66. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    November 15, 2008 at 4:23 am
    @Sorax3

    The moment it got on the internet, it became no-longer isolated.

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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    November 15, 2008 at 9:09 am
    How is taunting the enemy remotely offensive? Some of you retards need to get a grip on reality. So let me get this straight, its ok to be at war with our enemies, to shoot them, blow them up, snipe them... but it`s not ok to offend them?

    If they were doing this to non combatants then yes, they were wrong. But the enemy is fair game. If you don`t agree with that, then you simply do not now, nor will you ever have what it takes to fight and keep your morale over there.

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    ak4775 Male 30-39
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    November 15, 2008 at 11:15 am
    If this is as bad as it gets I`m totally fine with it. Take a look at what the insurgents videos look like. Ied`s blowing soldiers to pieces (literally), cutting peoples heads off, and launching rpg`s into soldiers and civilians alike with zero regard for who they kill.

    Get a fricking grip kiddies.

  69. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    November 15, 2008 at 3:04 pm
    @splurbyburbl

    Because if you`re taunting them by mocking their religion, then you`re taunting everyone else with that religion. I`m fine with religion being mocked. I`m not a fan of it myself. But it`s not exactly the best thing to do to win people of that religion over to your side...and if I`m not mistaken, isn`t that exactly what the US and her allies are trying to do in the middle east?

  70. Profile photo of splurbyburbl
    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    November 15, 2008 at 5:58 pm
    Musuko42, it is the same fanaticism they are making fun of that is creating and warping Muslim minds to think they need to kill us. So, to answer your question, no I don`t agree with winning the hearts and minds of muslim extremists. Just like I don`t think we were trying to win hearts and minds of Nazi`s back in the day. (Theirs was a fanatical extremism too) Much like Japanese Americans in WWII, all Muslims everywhere are suspect. Not for who they are as a person, but because of how the literature in that religion has a better chance than any to make zealots.

    Muslim Extremists, much like Christian Extremists and any other extremist groups that serve only to destroy or spread hate should be destroyed on sight. If we taunt them every now and again... I don`t give a damn.

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    harrydick Male 18-29
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    November 15, 2008 at 9:58 pm
    Wow nice one yanks , proffesional , god i hate being stuck for six months in a crappy country with bloody yanks

    i hope that guy gets sniped then corpse humped

    =====================================

    Ha, your a fag. I hope you get sniped, but you get anally corpse humped, while your still breathing.

  72. Profile photo of McDuff73
    McDuff73 Male 30-39
    870 posts
    November 16, 2008 at 2:18 am
    The point people are making Splurbyburbl is whilst taunting the enemy is NOT a problem taunting the people you are there to help IS and is likely to create more extremists if what they see is the occupying force making light of their religion.
    It serves only as good propaganda for extermist views!
  73. Profile photo of splurbyburbl
    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    November 16, 2008 at 5:57 am
    I know very well exactly the point they are making. A few years back I would have agreed with them. The point I am making however, is that with or without the taunting, the Muslim teachings promote extremism so well, that the taunting does little if anything to help it along.
  74. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    November 16, 2008 at 8:42 am
    @splurbyburbl

    Since you`ve gone and Godwin`d the thread, I`ll make this comparison; taunting the extremists by mocking Islam is like taunting the Nazis by mocking Christianity; it`ll succeed in taunting the extremists, but it`ll also offend any moderate member of that religion who might also be on your side.

    Feel free to mock a religion. I do it. I find plenty to mock in religion. But it`s not smart to mock the religion of someone you`re trying to make your friend. And whatever you think about Islam, the American government is trying to be friends with other Islamic countries in the Middle East, so this video acts against that interest.

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    McDuff73 Male 30-39
    870 posts
    November 16, 2008 at 10:17 am
    Both the Bible and the Koran are full of contradictions of love thy brother then kill the crap outta your neighbour, both could be considered promoters of violence and of peace in the end its down to interpretation, what wont help is foreign nationals supposedly there to help, berating and belittling not only the extremists but the peaceful locals too this in the end will become a propaganda victory for the extremists and thats the problem with behaving in such an immature and unthinking way.
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    Pindragon Male 18-29
    601 posts
    November 17, 2008 at 3:35 pm
    Musuko, ou are such a hypocrit and it bugs me to my core! You tell everyone else here to not offend people yet you say it is alright to mock religion? What has given you superior right to tell us we are wrong when you can`t even get YOUR story straight?

    Here is a thought:

    Enlist in the military. (if you already havn`t, but, from what it sounds like, you don`t even know which end of the gun is the "danger" end)

    Take a year or two tour of Iraq. Meet the locals. Chill a bit in the desert. Abandon all your family and friends to go fight over there. Kill a man, look into his eyes, and watch him die. Do this repeatedly for a while, and THEN tell me how stressful that job is. Hell, why not tell us all how we are STILL wrong. At least then you`d have some bloody proof to back your claim.

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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    November 18, 2008 at 4:54 am
    @Pindragon

    I don`t contradict myself at all. I said it is fine to mock religion. I also said it`s not smart to do so if you`re trying to be friends with someone of that religion.

    And if America wants moderate Islamic countries on her side, this kind of thing doesn`t help. THAT is what I said.

    As for the stresses of battle; if someone goes into that kind of career without understanding the stresses they are going to endure, and without the mental toughness required to endure them without acting out in a way that harms their employer`s aims (winning "hearts and minds"), then they only have themselves to blame. They weren`t conscripted, were they?

    Dealing with those stresses is part of their JOB. The job they signed up for. The job they chose. Why should I have any sympathy for someone who can`t do their job properly? I don`t care if it`s a tough job; nobody forced them to do it. They inflicted it upon themselves. So tell me again why this soldier`s actions are excusable

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    Pindragon Male 18-29
    601 posts
    November 18, 2008 at 2:28 pm
    NO amount of training and preperation can prepare a man for the stress of killing another living human being.

    Anyone can join the military assuming they will handle it just to get a shocking revelation that it is actually terribly difficult.

    And also, take your own advice. Don`t insult religion especially when there are those who beleive in that religion around. Might cause some conflict.

    Or, perhaps you do not care aboutr capturing our "hearts and minds" in this comment board. In which case, shut the drat up about it. Until you practice what you preach, no one here will want to hear the bullpoo you are spewing out. Back up your story mate. Until then, kindly keep quite so other, more open-minded commenters can make their posts.

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    Skibi Female 18-29
    103 posts
    November 18, 2008 at 11:52 pm
    I really don`t like the arguments placing the blame on the men and women who signed up for the military.

    Yes. Military service members volunteered for duty. That doesn`t automatically make them Jesus. They`re going to make mistakes. They`re going to drat off. They`re going to get stressed, vent, lash out, and do stupid poo, just to break up the monotony of life over there.

    The thing that irks me, however, is most of you are so quick to blame your own countrymen, you don`t even bother to stop for half a second and try to reason with his situation. "OH! SOLDJURZ SHUD B ABL 2 B PURFEKT ALL HTE TIME! TEHY R R AMBADASDORS OVR TREHE!"

    Bullpoo.

    It`s useless to argue with people who blame our soldiers, because you`re too busy being self-righteous on behalf of another country to be open-minded about the kids from our own.

    It`s easy to judge from the comfort of your own home.

    It just sickens me when people do so.

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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    November 19, 2008 at 3:32 am
    @Pindragon

    You`re right, nobody can be sure if they`ll be able to cope with it...that`s what TRAINING is for.

    Back up my story? What story? That mocking someone`s religion makes them less-inclined to be your friend? Do I really need to back that up?

    @Skibi

    Nobody is blaming the soldiers. You are right, they`re not Jesus. They are human. And like all humans, they are accountable for their actions if they act in an inappropriate manner. That is what is being said here.

    If a soldier does something wrong, don`t you agree that they should be held responsible for it if the responsibility lies with them? You said yourself, they aren`t Jesus. Why should we excuse them doing bad things because they have a tough job?

    If some soldiers got back home and murdered someone in a bar fight, would you be using the stress of their job as an excuse for their actions?

    And if so, why not in this situation, with this video? Because it`s not as severe? Why does that matter?

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    Skibi Female 18-29
    103 posts
    November 20, 2008 at 4:12 pm
    Yes, they should be held accountable--for serious crimes.

    Yet every time a video pops up of a military person doing something because they`re bored, the comments section is always laced with little gems like, "That our tax dollars hard at work," or "(S)he should know better! This is why the world hates us!"

    It`s ridiculous. When you`re at work, how much time do you spend actually working? Do you never goof off? Play games? Taunt a coworker behind their back?

    I do understand that military personnel are held to a higher standard than most other occupations, but at the same time, how can you expect every single person in the military to be completely serious for 8-48 hours at a time?

    It just irritates me that most people blindly chastise the military without once remembering, hey: These jagoffs are the same kind of jagoff as you.

    They shouldn`t be cut any slack if and when they are punished, but they shouldn`t be condemned just because they`re goofing off.

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    McDuff73 Male 30-39
    870 posts
    November 21, 2008 at 2:58 am
    Of course they are held to a higher standard they are an occupying military force in an unstable country and their every move is watched not just by us and the media but also by the insurgents and any inappropriate actions can be turned into propaganda against both themselves and the government they are trying to install. Leading more locals to convert to extremism and to ultimately more deaths of coalition forces.

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