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49 Responses to Kubrick 2001: The Space Odyssey Explained

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    1CrazyURL Male 30-39
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    November 8, 2008 at 4:40 am
    Link: Kubrick 2001: The Space Odyssey Explained - Very strange... but interesting! If you`ve ever seen or heard of the film, check this out. Great design as well.
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    gothgirl69 Female 18-29
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    November 8, 2008 at 7:09 pm
    wtf?
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    Aus10816 Male 18-29
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    November 8, 2008 at 7:10 pm
    *stupid spam bot* @_@
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    gandhi172 Male 18-29
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    November 8, 2008 at 7:10 pm
    V V V
    WTF?? Spam and porn in one.
    BAN
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    Agentk120 Male 18-29
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    November 8, 2008 at 7:10 pm
    I feel a ban coming...
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    Turnshroud Female 18-29
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    November 8, 2008 at 7:13 pm
    Oh crap...BAN! BAN!

    *emails Fancy...or Davy*

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    Computron Male 30-39
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    November 8, 2008 at 7:19 pm
    That`s what I understood about it. Heh.
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    Agentk120 Male 18-29
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    November 8, 2008 at 7:29 pm
    As to the site, it just doesn`t seem necessary. Neat, but it all just seemed really obvious to me when I watched the actual movie. One of the best movies I have ever seen by the way.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    November 8, 2008 at 7:31 pm
    Kudos to Turnshroud for the alert on the Pornbot. It`s gone now. Shhh-shhhh-shhhh... the bad man has gone away.
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    gandhi172 Male 18-29
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    November 8, 2008 at 7:33 pm
    Thank you Davy, thank you.
    *hugs*
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    bluethen Male 13-17
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    November 8, 2008 at 7:33 pm
    I about fell asleep.
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    Agentk120 Male 18-29
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    November 8, 2008 at 7:36 pm
    "Shhh-shhhh-shhhh... the bad man has gone away."
    But davy, I never knew how babies were made until now. Can you restore my innocence? CAN YOU!?
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    opiebreath Female 18-29
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    November 8, 2008 at 7:36 pm
    All of Make`s posts have been deleted. Thanks for the pointers, And this website.... is...

    AWESOME.

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    hehehenerd Male 13-17
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    November 8, 2008 at 7:37 pm
    Good job davy!

    Anyways, kindof boring, but once I payed attention...interesting, like my biology class

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    davymid Male 30-39
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    November 8, 2008 at 7:43 pm
    vv "But davy, I never knew how babies were made until now. Can you restore my innocence? CAN YOU!?"

    Agent, I promise to teach you sometime how babies are made, although I suspect already know and have even possibly made a few already. All I can say at this stage is that they`re not made by "ViZit my h0t boobieS! TitsTitsTitsTits! See my Pr0N pics hotHOT! .

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    hehehenerd Male 13-17
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    November 8, 2008 at 7:46 pm
    Davy not to go off topic, ok to go off topic, but check your e-mail...

    anyways, did the monkey in part II freak anyone else out?

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    LoofahBoy Male 18-29
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    November 8, 2008 at 7:46 pm
    The music loops hurt the ears.
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    Turnshroud Female 18-29
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    November 8, 2008 at 7:47 pm
    :) I love you Davy.

    Yer welcome. But someone has to pay for my theropy...and it isn`t oing to be me

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    opiebreath Female 18-29
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    November 8, 2008 at 7:56 pm
    That whole Act IV thing... did the maker of this predict all of that? Because though I saw the movie a looong time ago, I really don`t remember that...
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    November 8, 2008 at 7:58 pm
    I love you too Turnshroud, I can even get past your typing disability, given enough time.

    But seriously TS, thanks for the heads-up. You did a big favour for everyone on I-A-B here by alerting the Mods to the porn spammer. We would have found it quick, but not as quickly if you alerted us. It`s appreciated.

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    Turnshroud Female 18-29
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    November 8, 2008 at 8:07 pm
    Thanks.
    In psychology, I believe that is called a secondary reinforcer.
    Can you tuck me in and read me a bed time story now Uncle Dave?
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    IceKatana Male 13-17
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    November 8, 2008 at 8:11 pm
    that`s kinda scary, in a sense
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    Turnshroud Female 18-29
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    November 8, 2008 at 8:14 pm
    But to be on topic, that was odd.

    Interesting, but odd

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    syatricon Male 13-17
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    November 8, 2008 at 8:16 pm
    good thing tho most of it is what i thought
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    amaqdrinker Male 18-29
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    November 8, 2008 at 9:05 pm
    even kubrick didn`t try to explicitly explain this film. as interesting as the abstract concepts presented by it are, i think more importantly the cinematography is unparalleled. kubrick treated every scene like a painting. something i want to do before i die is see this movie in an actual theater on a big screen. i heard that they`ve shown it on imax too and that would be even more amazing.
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    mrpopenfresh Male 18-29
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    November 8, 2008 at 9:57 pm
    Great, Space Odyssey, not the mots crypotic of movies, hell, even Kubrick himself gave a full explanation of the movie, start to finish.

    I didn`t need a flash movie retell me the movie in a pooier way. The sound effects being recycled and looped really pissed me off, and what was up with part 1? It was totally useless, not to mention long and drawn out.

    Anybody who watched the movie more than once probably got it, in fact, you can watch this movie a million times and more things will reveal themselves, but to say that these things are in the movie itself, that is the subjective part. What this person shows is his understanding of the movie, while it goes in the same direction as pretty much everyones comprehension of this movie, it is his opinion. Everyone should have their own view of this film.

    I`m waiting for the explanation of Eraserhead.

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    tnaran Male 30-39
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    November 8, 2008 at 10:13 pm
    The thing is also wrong. The philosophical and artistic meaning is very open to interpretation, but the "what actually happened?" is not: Clark wrote a freaking book (the 2001 novellization) to explain what the movie was doing.
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    tnaran Male 30-39
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    November 8, 2008 at 10:20 pm
    Dawn of Man: the Monoliths are autonomous machines (basically robots if you will) whose purpose is to kick-start intelligent life in the universe by an older intelligent race that had long since transcended physical forms (Ref: 3001, Final Odyssey)

    The monolith evaluated the species of ancient Earth, found this band of monkeys to have promise and implanted an "idea". Clark says this specifically in all the 2001 books. The site gets that first part wrong. The better philosophical questions were: what do humans do with intelligence? Survival, ingenuity, and war.

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    Nidonemo Male 18-29
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    November 8, 2008 at 10:24 pm
    So does that mean, when we die...we become the next stage in our development? We cast away our physical needs for something much, much more?
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    tnaran Male 30-39
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    November 8, 2008 at 10:30 pm
    Act II: The monolith.

    OK, they get the basic idea right: the monolith was the final test -- could humans take their tools and travel to space?

    The part about being a "child in space" was good, and probably Kubrick`s deliberate idea.

    The approach to the monolith by Dr. Floyd though, I disagree with. To me, Floyd approached it exactly like his ancestor: with awe and curiosity. And like his ancestor, he gets a reward: the signal to Jupiter.

    They get back on track when the site says humanity hasn`t learned all the answers yet, which I think was the point of 2001. I always view this movie as a rebuttal to "Humanity`s evolution has ended -- we`ve got all the answers or soon will". Kubrick: "Nuh-uh! *high-pitched electronic shriek*"

    Clark said it nicer: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

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    tnaran Male 30-39
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    November 8, 2008 at 10:34 pm
    Act III: Man vs. HAL

    The philosophical interpretation of this is wide open, IMHO. But the basic facts was explained in great detail in 2010: HAL was given orders to protect the mission, and the humans were jeopardizing the mission with their curiosity, so HAL made the only logical choice left to him: get rid of the crew and carry on the mission alone. That would satisfy the letter of the instructions he was given before the mission left.

    I never really thought to deeply on the meaning of the HAL fight. The "lose control of our tools" angle is interesting, and the idea of the old ape overcoming high tech is a constant theme.

    My thought was: our tools resemble us -- right down to our murderous paranoia. Monkey took a bone for hunting animals and figured out how to kill his fellow monkeys. HAL took his basic tools (the EVA pods) and used them to kill.

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    tnaran Male 30-39
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    November 8, 2008 at 10:43 pm
    Act IV: Beyond the Infinite.

    Here, they wisely focus on the philosophical interpretation. The "physical interpretation" as given by Clark was that Bowman was transported by the Monolith to someplace else via a wormhole/warp-gate thing. There, the monolith created a comfortable environment for Bowman to live out his natural life until the monolith could finish transforming him into the Next Step: the Starchild. In later books, Clark seems to back away from this and suggests Bowman died a natural death and the monolith simply copied his mind into its own computer and keeps Bowman alive as sort of an ambassador to humanity. Makes for interesting stories, but ruins the Starchild ending, no? :-)

    Anyway, I mostly agree with this interpretation the site has. It`s a message that what makes us human is not our physical forms: ape, man, star child ("superman"). It`s that awe and curiosity that will always be with us in one form or the other. THAT is the essential n

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    kcpd2050 Male 40-49
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    November 8, 2008 at 11:49 pm
    Thanks for the explanation. I have been enlightened.
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    hoyaguru Male 40-49
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    November 8, 2008 at 11:50 pm
    OK, seriously? It`s been a while since a saw the movie (and read the BOOKS, which pretty much explain everything), but I do know that these idiots are WAY OFF. First off, aliens leave the monolith near the monkeys. It teaches them to throw rocks, make knots with grass, etc. The aliens also leave a monolith buried on the dark side of the moon. If their experiment works and the monkeys evolve, they will find the buried monolith on the moon. Millions of years later, humans dig up the moon monolith. When sunlight hits it for the first time in millions of years, it triggers a signal toward a third monlolith the aliens left at Jupiter. HAL is an artificial intelligence. HAL is told to lie to the astronauts, which drives him a bit crazy as he is not programmed to lie. Dave goes into the monolith, which triggers it to go to Jupiter and multiply (see 2010). It eventually covers Jupiter and compresses it, creating a new sun, and one of Jupiter`s moons has the beginings of life. READ THE BOOKS!
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    hoyaguru Male 40-49
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    November 8, 2008 at 11:53 pm
    Most of the "theories" postulated in this annoying travesty are so far off I think it must be a parody. Forget everything you just watched, read 2001 and 2010 and be enlightened. Holy Crap, does anybody read any more?
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    GoldenClock Male 18-29
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    November 9, 2008 at 12:03 am
    Hoyaguru, the problem is that this deals with 2001: A Space Odyssey, the film. The film was not based on the novel, as the novel and the film were made at the same time (Stanley Kubrick worked with Arthur C. Clarke on the script), and the book was released after the film had been.

    You tell us to read, but you are not reading between the lines. You do not see the undercurrent: the meaning underneath what is presented. You must not always think along the lines of `this and that happened`, but rather `this and that happened, which actually means this`. This is a highly symbolic movie, just as all of Stanley Kubrick`s are.

    I think Stanley Kubrick`s film stands well enough on its own without needless further physical explanation. It`s a single piece of art, and we should try to appreciate it for that as well.

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    lemurarmy Male 18-29
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    November 9, 2008 at 12:04 am
    whats this "reading" you talk of? and yea the video was crap
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    November 9, 2008 at 4:35 am
    Clarke goes on in 2035 to explain how humans living in space start to change, And they can no longer live on Earth because they`ve become so accustomed to near-zero gravity. Also Hal`s intelligence becomes absorbed into the monolith at the end of 2010 as well. Europa, becomes the target of the monoliths next stage, But man`s curiosity interferes with that step. 3001 brings it all together and I won`t spoil it by trying to explain it.
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    duffytoler Male 40-49
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    November 9, 2008 at 8:33 am
    >>"theories" postulated in this annoying travesty are so far off

    Agreed, hoyaguru. It`s like some stupid a-hole watched it and just didn`t "get it" but was too ARROGANT to admit to it, so he goes off and makes this travesty for other stupid people. It`s like he`s wiping his butt with the best scifi movie ever made.

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    astridhaze Female 18-29
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    November 9, 2008 at 8:36 am
    This was actually pretty good, like a 2001: A Space Odyssey for Dummies of sorts...

    I actually enjoyed the book way, way more than the movie.

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    patthebaker Male 18-29
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    November 9, 2008 at 9:12 am
    2001 is one of my favorite movies but this sort of took the mystery out of it for me.
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    ParasyT Male 13-17
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    November 9, 2008 at 9:34 am
    i thought 2001: A space odyssey was that movie with the guy from Airplane and bill clinton, with the clone & such.. I need to see the real movie because now i dont know what to think
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    thecranberry Male 18-29
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    November 9, 2008 at 10:55 am
    kubrick2001: the far limits of pretentiousness.
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    unbwogable Male 18-29
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    November 9, 2008 at 11:25 am
    @duffytoler: I can see your point of view, but I have to disagree. This actually made sense to me. I think that there are many different ideas of what this movie is about.
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    s0rd3dvis1on Male 18-29
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    November 9, 2008 at 12:33 pm
    thanks for it showed me how little i understood of the film.
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    Vagrant86 Male 18-29
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    November 9, 2008 at 4:50 pm
    a bit hardcore lol
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    jadedtortois Female 18-29
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    November 10, 2008 at 8:58 am
    Good animation, but I hate how they gave all the credit to the director... This movie is based on a novel by Arthur C. Clark, he should have been accredited to this classic film.
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    manorrd Male 30-39
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    November 10, 2008 at 4:40 pm
    I agree with jadedtortois. These guys never read the book (where you get a lot better insight into the relationship between the monolith and the apes, for example).

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    Majase Male 40-49
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    November 12, 2008 at 5:25 am
    That was actually an interesting summation of the film; can`t say I agree with all of it, but I found it quite intriguing nonetheless.

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