How To Beat Your Wife

Submitted by: fancylad 8 years ago in

Saudi author and cleric, Dr. Muhammad Al-"Arifi advises men on how to beat their wives.
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Female 153
Wow... I watched this plus a few more videos by the same cleric. No wonder westerners look at Muslims with the eyes they do.... I am not saying that all Muslims are that backward, and in fact I have met quite a few forward thinking ones... however beating a woman? assuming that all western women are loose or immoral because some refuse to name the father on the child birth certificate? or that we have no morals because we aren`t all Muslim? Perhaps this can be said the same of fundamentalist christians as well...
All the same, we have a lot of work to do in regard to making peace with the muslims
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Male 4,546
As for the "common sense" answer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_vi...

It seems 22% of women are abused in the states. Whilst that might tie in to quite how much common sense there is in the states, I doubt it.

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Male 4,546
SilverThread:
Read points 2 and 4.
http://stop-stoning.org/node/12
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Male 3
What happens if the sheikh has 12 wives? beating them up sounds kinky!lol
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Male 2,553
These comments are better than the video.
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Female 278
wait wait... if abortion is murder then isnt killing an insect or any other thing murder too. people dont think twice about killing spiders because they are scared of them, but yet if a mother wants an abortion its a different story. I dont understand how it makes a difference what the thing is that got killed, killing is murder.
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Female 237
sorry, what I mean to say there at the end is that the child is separate being, even if it is dependent on the mother or inside of her, it is NOT part of the woman`s body, but instead a separate person. (think of siamese twins- its not ok for one to kill the other, even if they are attached. Weird example, but similar if think of it)
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Female 237
neilyo, you do have a point- I am very thankful for the healthcare system in the US and that many women are saved each year. It is also great to hear that abortion rates have dropped. But I still know many people who think of abortion very casually, like `Oops, I got pregnant, no big deal I`ll just get rid of it`. I think it would be better to widely encourage adoption as an option. But it is a complex problem without easy answers- I just want people to be aware that no matter what the situation/country/percentages/reasons, abortion is killing and so women should consider that. As far as it being the woman`s choice, once the kid is born it doesn`t have capability to live on its own, so is it still her choice? What if she decides at age 2 she can`t take it- is it ok to kill the kid? Just think about it...
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Male 240
I beat because I care.
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Male 203
does with herself.

Sorry, got cut off there.

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Male 203
blackbird, you act as if every other woman in America or other westernized societies has had an abortion, but in fact the number is rather low compared to other regions of the world (Global Abortion Rates Worldwide Abortion Rates to cite a couple of sources). The main problem with this video is that it is an entirely different culture that many people aren`t used to. Muslim and Arab people still have abortions, just like everyone else, the people here are objecting to this kind of cruelty against anyone. And as for the part about killing a pregnant woman being 2 murders, my opinion on that is a woman should have the right to control something that is in her body, but no one else can say what she
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Female 237
It`s ironic how so many of you are outraged at the thought of beating a woman or child or even animal, but when it comes to abortion, very few people protest the idea of ripping a live child into peices for the convenience of the mother. Just a different form of abuse, really. Oh, wait, its actually murder. But that`s acceptable in American, Christian society- we`re so much more humane that other cultures, we don`t beat anyone, we just kill them before they`re born if we feel like it. (for those of you who are going to say the fetus us part of the womans body, then why is a murder charged with 2 deaths if he kills a pregnant woman? Beating heart= human being). If your going to be defensive about human rights, don`t forget unborn humans.
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Female 237
"At least christianity changes what god is supposed to have said every once in a while so it`s never quite as sadistic to be a christian when times change to shun things. "

It`s true... though the people who change it often get killed, it definitely changes with time or it would be seen as nearly insane.

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Male 928
The problem with these people is that their idea of a Utopian society is the the 8th century C.E. If that`s where they`re aiming, how are they going to shoot any higher? Islam needs to have a modernizing social revolution, but all the sane Muslims will be killed by barbarous pigs like the man in the video if they speak out. It`s a bit of a catch 22.
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Male 928
drating crazy ass Muslims.
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Male 3,431
Baalthazaq;

Don`t tout the inferiority of western philosophy until you`ve convinced your fellows in Islam to stop killing each other with stones. Your vapid ad hominem attacks are a feeble attempt to validate an archaic and pedestrian system of subjugation and social enslavement. Where do Honor Killings fit in the hierarchy of Islamic Rule? No to my knowledge there isn`t a standard in Christianity regarding "how to Beat Your Wife" Largely because it`s understood that you Just Don`t Do It. No need for a divine directive, it`s a matter of common sense.

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Male 3,332
I don`t speak that language, so I don`t know if the translation is real. I`m guessing it`s not.
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Male 240
wow simply wow everyone is saying stuff about the wife (and some how fighting but agreeing with each other) no one cares for the children or animals they shurly are screwed lets beat the poo out of them its not like they have a futur
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Male 240
remeber dont beat your wife like you would your child but with love and compassion
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Female 836
Baalthazaq, you strike me as someone who is so utterly addicted to "west always=bad, other cultures always=good" that you`ve gone into nonsense to defend your ideas.

Oh, and look up the definition of the word "rights" I think it has something to do with POWER... which is what someone who beats on someone else DEFINITELY HAS.

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Male 4,546
THUBANSTAR:

Actually the man is the only one who has no rules governing restraint beyond outright assault.

In other words the one with fewest rights in the matter.

So bite me. (Islamically, you`re allowed).


Nowpleaserea: Utter bull. As demonstrated here.

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Male 176
A very primitive culture. A culture that still gives into the notion of power for the few. No democracy for the people. Inherited political power. Man over woman with crude dominance. No one allowed to drink alcohol unless of course you one of the leaders in the palaces in which case all pleasures are yours including multiple wives and servants. To think they only had spitting camels and no toilet paper 60 years ago and now that shell has pumped up the oil they happened to be sitting on find themselves obscenely rich, free to indulge their trivial desires and whims. A unique happenstance in human history. The self importance of the clowns in this video speak very ill to the rest of the world about their society.
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Female 1,297
You`re not allowed to hit children in Islam unless they don`t read the Quran, and even then nothing more that a few slaps to discipline. You can only beat your wife if she`s having an affair and you`ve warned her several times but she still refuses to stop, and you don`t want to divorce her. If you divorce her it`s your job to keep her in the house and give her food for 3 months, and then she can marry whoever. The 3 month rule made sense back in the day because you couldn`t always tell if a woman was pregnant before, plus if it took time to sort out living arrangements for her
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Female 836
First off, stop acting like you only have the choice between the CHRISTIAN WAY and the ISLAMIC WAY. You KNOW there is more to it than that.

The main thing is... wifey gets beaten, kids can get beaten, BUT THE HUSBAND NEVER DOES, DOES HE?

In other words boys and girls, the women and kids are beneath the man, and he in actuallity can do anything he wants. We in western society DO actually have laws to try and even things out, even if it does not work perfectly.

So, stop harping like whiny idiots about how naughty the west is when you watch a video about how to beat your wife in the middle east, `k?

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Male 170
um...thanks for the advice?
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Female 553
Opie has a wife?!?

No, really. This is culture, not religion. Islam is a very pro-woman rights religion. They granted divorce, property, and inheritance rights far before the other Abrahamic religions.

And just because this guy is on tv doesn`t mean he isn`t a small minority. We`ve seen the crazy stuff Rev. Wright said on tv, but that doesn`t mean we all agree with him. For all we know, this clip was mistranslated or in context with a program condemning what was said.

-_- My, my, my. How we jump to conclusions.

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Male 2,313
"Why do Christians and Jews or anyone eilse think the have a right to tell Muslums how they should or should not live?"

Telling someone how to live and telling someone not to beat their wife is a little bit different.

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Male 1,788
It`s a culture thing. If you`re outraged, look at your own culture, oh at the most, 200 years ago. Did your culture have slaves? OHMYGOSH! Why yes, you probably did. 200 years, isn`t that much. Go figure.

Looking down upon a culture is just ignorant. Get over it.

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Male 1,788
"People say how scary Islam is, yet look at all the effed up poo Christianity can do."

Care to extrapolate?

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Male 4,546
Silver:
Technically the rule is you`re not allowed to beat your wife with anything more than a "toothbrush" or "folded hanky". Not your bare hands.

Kids can be spanked with bare hands.

The whole point is that there are limitations, which you`ve completely flipped around. What are the limitations in Christianity? Atheism? Oh wait, none, so I guess that means this is ok over there huh:

Looky a picture n everything. Your entire society sucks.

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Male 107
light, and not in the face.... got it!

"Honey!? Come here a sec."
XD

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Male 32
only a coward hits a girl....still where would one hit a girl without causing "damage" it would cause "damage" any where ud hit them...wtf
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Female 37
maybe some one should give them a good slap and they may calm their poo down. this is rediculous so stuck in the dratin` dark ages it`s untrue those poor women.
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Male 330
yes yes, we want to beat her, but we "must not make her face ugly" FANTASTIC! exactly the solution to my problem!
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Male 3,431
Killing them softly, it makes perfect sense. And yes, you want to beat your children the way you beat animals, but women, no you don`t want to mess up the parts you have to look at. So you take a rattan cane to the bottoms of their feet. This is why they Feared Hillary Clinton.
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Male 3,014
Well, I LOL`d.
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Female 15,763
Oh this is great, my wife made me a sandwich the other day and it had way too much mayo but I wasn`t sure on the exact technique for how to correctly beat her.
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Male 496
Does anyone else think that he is talking like he`s from 100BC or something?

That culture of his is sickening, and based on a load of balls. I`d like to turn up and see if he could beat teh poo out of me tbh

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Female 1,264
Oh! So thats how you do it! Quick question, if I were to tape shards of glass or thumb tacks to my stick would that lower its efficiency?
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Male 112
*sigh*

People, people, people. This really has nothing to do with religion, apart from the fact that it is a cleric talking about it. Christianity doesn`t say to beat your wife, if anything the opposite, saying respect and whatnot, as does the Koran.

It is a culture thing, nothing more. Not that, that is any excuse at all.

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Female 45
actually i think he is doing good in a sad way though Because we all know men beat thier wives and they won`t stop so at least he is telling them to do it light and not on the face
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Male 2,855
so, i have been doing it all wrong all these years! thank you for educating us sir!
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Male 342
Wow.

Almost makes me want to fly a plane into his house...

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Female 214
i don`t understand how most of the women in these cultures just sit back and take it - and why the men don`t question it either. I know it`s a different culture, but the value of life should be the same for everyone, right?
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Male 353
Why do Christians and Jews or anyone eilse think the have a right to tell Muslums how they should or should not live?
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Male 342
it is disgusting how women are treated in the middle east. i honestly find hijabs offensive - why should a woman cover every inch of herself other than her eyes to be socially acceptable? and yeah, i agree with xiquir.
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Female 723
You should not beat her as you would beat an animal or child? Wonderful, good to know I am protected by the holy scripture from permanently disfiguring my "pretty" face.
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Male 3,255
@threefjefff

There`s kind of a difference. In America, a wife-beater is considered a pile of poo and would be put in jail, this video is showing people who think that the practice is acceptable.

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Male 2,422
Threefjeff: Did I say that? No. American wife-beaters should be killed as well. And your sentence contains a grammatical mistake. (Sorry, I`m a bit of a grammar freak.)
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Male 5,194
>>this cant be real!

It`s real. I usually side with the liberals on most things, but Islam is way more f-dup than any of the seem to realize. This is just the tip of the iceberg, an iceberg made of frozen stink.

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Male 3
@xiquiripat:"This is precisely why I don`t feel the need to respect other cultures. In fact, the entire Middle East should be extirpated."

America, drat yeah! There is absoloutly no cases of wife-beating whatsoever!

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Male 2,422
This is precisely why I don`t feel the need to respect other cultures. In fact, the entire Middle East should be extirpated.
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Male 234
I wouldn`t mind beating him, and i would have no problems beating him in the face.
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Male 4,680
It`d be shocking, until you realise that until around 150 years ago beating women in christian countries was perfectly legal.
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Female 855
"He must not beat her where it would leave marks"
-How about psychological marks?
These "people" are animals. Just drop the bomb on them and get it over with. Sheee-ut.
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Female 1,269
this cant be real!...
is it????
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Male 196
Hey, i didnt write that again. Is there an echo in here or something + :)
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Male 196
@Zerocyde

Do you know the context of those statements in that show? I have heard people say worse things in Dr Phil, for example.

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Female 4,225
“The king has come.” Those were the last and only words of Gabriel before he left. “The king has come.” As if those few words held any meaning to him, which they did not.

I agree, I speak Iranian no Arab. (Unfortunetly, I have come to learn that I probably wont have to look at Ahmadinejad’s lips as he’s being translated. Clerics=bad speakers. Did you see him on Larry King? Terrible)

But yes, having a true blue translation may be needed. Hey, they had a South Park episode where they made it look like Osama watches FG. Is it real? Of course not

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Female 53
Does anyone speak this language?

How do we know that`s really what they`re talking about and not someone`s idea of a joke? Yeah, I see a box crediting translation in the top-left corner but is that authentic?

If this is real, it has nothing to do with religion as far as I`m concerned. Only a dispicable, cowardly, cruel and heartless man would beat his wife for ANY reason; all those traits transcend race and religion and that`s that.

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Male 142
Probably not really what they were saying. Seeing as how many times people wrongly translate things to make it seem funny. Like that laughing talkshow host. The show was about how the mans vocal cords were changed and not his like chest or whatever.
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Male 2,313
Good to know.
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Female 4,225
Is this recent?

Doesn’t matter.

Unfortunately, we live in a society where we judge the many by the few

But you must realize that you could also pick out the bad partsof other religions

But what shams me even more, even more than the fact that all clerics are bad speaks and Ahmadiejad’s a terrible speaker….even more that there are so many bad interpretations and that here are more than a few Muslim scholars that are pow- ah screw that this has nothing to do it.

The point is we are a society that judge the many by the few and are prone to group a bunch of similar but different things together….ie stereotyping.


all man is curupt, therefore all religion is currupt

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Male 196
Ofcorse not. To get a new child if you damage it would just cost you a moment of pleasure. To get a new animal however would cost you money ...
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Male 1,347
wait... so animals and children are on the same level? so you can really beat a child good, aye
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Female 741
...wtf
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Male 12,138
Wow, flames abound in here... Still, look like you got it covered Primetime.

*backs away slowly while offering no help whatsoever to his beleaguered collague*

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Male 7,933
yes, yes I do.
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Female 741
When do you pull out the paddle?

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Male 1,219
What if her face is already ugly?
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Male 211
Well said Mr. Fibbles
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Male 322
"What do you call a woman with a black eye?
Nothing, you already told her once"

Primetimekin, I think you meant to say `what do you tell a woman with a black eye?`...

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Male 311
kikij
Adj.
2. racist - discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religion
anti-semite, antiblack
discriminatory, prejudiced - being biased or having a belief or attitude formed beforehand; "a prejudiced judge"
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Male 211
Kikij,

You do realize that the comment said, "Saudi" refering to Saudi Arabia, not the person`s religion. Madest`s comment, "if he`s married to a saudi it`s too late for that.", was racist, or more accurately, regionist but racist is close enough given what the average person knows about that region.

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Male 1,204
Love how the guys cheer him on while the women stand back yelling "that`s horrible!"

And I also love how the majority of Americans fighting in the Middle East for those poor women are men.

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Male 7,933
What do you call a woman with a black eye?
Nothing, you already told her once
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Female 49
this is horrible
my dad is muslim and would never do that to my mom :S
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Female 311
MrFibbles - you do realise that neither Islam nor Christianity are races therefore no-one was being racist.
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Male 173
this guy knows his stuff
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Female 1,516
Beat her where it will not cause damage? How about emotional damage? Yeah, and God forbid you beat her in the face and make her face "ugly". This actually made me angry. How about just TELLING your wife it`s gone too far and made you angry instead of beating her to make a point? Ugh...
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Male 508
I think it`s funny how islamic people complain how westerners degrade them when they do it so well on their own with garbage like this. Then they try and justify it as a `cultural` difference. lol
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Male 3,255
@MrFibbles

I`m a troll because I don`t believe in religion? Wow, are you sure you`re really from Europe? You sound like more of an evangelical American to me.

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Male 122
I wonder what his doctorate is in...

Seriously, though, I don`t see the big deal. It`s terrible he`s condoning beating women, but he`s preaching that one shouldn`t leave permanent damage, which seems to be a humanitarian step forward from the "beat them until you feel like stopping" policy. That`s more than I can vouch for in a lot of American homes.

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Male 548
smart guy
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Female 24
This is horrible! No one should be beaten- man, woman or child.
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Male 311
"I think muslim disgusts me a little more than christianity though."
"Male, 18-29, Western US"
I see how you play your games little troll, and see how i can play them much better?
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Male 3,255
You`re right prime, I should up my reading comprehension skills so that my writing comes out better...

If that`s the best argument against me then I`m doing just fine here. :)

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Male 7,933
"You obviously need better reading comprehension skills else"

"twice doesn`t make the entire rest of my post"

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Male 2,592
See, I prefer to do my beatings with a stick or similar foriegn object. But, this isn`t even long enough to go into that.
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Female 917
:O

So you would beat a CHILD? AND a woman? Well I guess it`s a relief that they beat `lightly`

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Male 460
hey isnt this like the universal or regional morals thing?
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Male 3,255
And besides, it`s not a "cop-out tactic that makes no sense" it`s an insult that makes perfect sense. You obviously need better reading comprehension skills else you wouldn`t have misinterpreted what he said so dramatically.
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Male 3,255
@MrFibbles

rofl. "Crap, hes right! I better point out the part where he insulted me to make him look like the badguy!"

Talk about drating cop-out tactics. The fact that I said "learn to read" twice doesn`t make the entire rest of my post any less accurate and you know it.

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Male 311
Zerocyde, learn how to not use a cop-out tactic that makes no sense like "learn how to read"
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Male 7,933
I get what your saying Vindicate.
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Female 511
It`s the same kind of situations as those Mormon camps. If you`re raised to believe that the man is *always* right and is superior to any woman, then beatings, rape, etc isn`t too shocking. If you`re looking at it as an outsider not raised in that, it`s horrible and crude and barbaric. So it all depends on how you`re raised.

Violence isn`t right, and I don`t condone his message, but I`m finding it funny how people are so outraged about how he can speak about it so calmly. Because he was trained to believe it`s perfectly fine. Doesn`t make it fine for American culture, but it`s acceptable in his. And, fortunately or unfortunately, American culture is not the dominant culture of the world.

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Male 196
@Zerocyde

Do you know the context of those statements in that show? I have heard people say worse things in Dr Phil, for example.

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Male 3,255
"from this video of some random saudiu guy. He makes assumptions of it being about Islam, and how all of Islam beat their wives."

No he didn`t, learn to read.

"He then goes on to say that christians preach domestic violence."

No he didn`t, learn to read.

"Then he says that christianity does some drated up poo, but islam is just as bad."

This is true, but even if you don`t agree that it`s true, it still has nothing to do with racism.

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Female 143
I hate that this is the image we are forced to swallow of what these people believe.
We get all the negative over here.

I can`t believe that people even need to discuss the beating of their wives. It should not be done at all. And the beating of children, slapping them left and right, that`s just ridiculous.

I wish I could just shake some of these people.
Enlighten them.

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Male 3,255
@livereg

Pockets of the extremists? This is being broadcast on drating TV. Even if you are right, and in where ever this is being broadcast, the majority of men would never beat their wives, it is still obviously something that`s okay to talk about on TV in their eyes! That`s disgusting enough!

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Male 7,933
About time there`s is a guideline.

I was completely doing it by instinct. Now I can at least have formal training

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Male 196
Well, Dr. Muhammad Al-`Arifi. I want to convery that YOU have gone too far with those statements and that i can`t bear it anymore.
Now stand still while i demonstrate it on you. Don`t worry, i will not make your face uglier!
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Female 165
.....

Speechless.

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Male 311
from this video of some random saudiu guy. He makes assumptions of it being about Islam, and how all of Islam beat their wives.
He then goes on to say that christians preach domestic violence.
Then he says that christianity does some drated up poo, but islam is just as bad.
so thats why are7era is racist.
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Male 78
This video is brutal. I know lots of Islamic people that would never dream of beating their wives, but there`s pockets of the extremists that take this approach that ruin islam for everyone.
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Male 1,297
@s0rd3dvis1on:

word

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Male 3,255
RELIGION IS GREAT! I think muslim disgusts me a little more than christianity though. At least christianity changes what god is supposed to have said every once in a while so it`s never quite as sadistic to be a christian when times change to shun things. Hell, if it didn`t change, we would still be stabbing women in the uterus with swords if they got pregnant out of wedlock as god supposedly originally commanded!
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Male 86
Hey Mr Fibbles, care to explain how are7era is racist?
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Female 44
This is crazy, and criminal. At least in right thinking countries it is. Why must they communicate through violence? We were all made with tongues in our heads and that`s what they should be using to get the point across... words.

Violence is wrong, always.

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Male 1,148
Well my partner will be pleased to know I can no longer beat her in the face...

Seriously, how can these guys talk about that so... normally?!

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Male 2,388
I was waiting for a demonstration.

I know im not supposed to say this but their culture is off da hook and just lying allover to proverbial hallway where anyone can trip on it. If you get me

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Male 311
"People say how scary Islam is, yet look at all the effed up poo Christianity can do. Honestly I think both religions are the same."

You racist bastard

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Male 5,094
That`s a true romantic, right there.
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Male 327
Wow....He should write a book "How to Beat Your Wife For Dummies"
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Male 563
PS nice racist touch, Madest, idiot.
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Male 563
We`ll all play the "Islam`s religion teaches this and is so bad" but I have the sudden urge to make the same exact video but with Christianity instead. And while we`re not playing videos on how to beat your woman, I am sure there are sermons and teachings where it is covered.

People say how scary Islam is, yet look at all the effed up poo Christianity can do. Honestly I think both religions are the same.

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Male 311
Madest made me lol
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Male 209
Haha madest. Indeed
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Male 311
with a fully loaded RPG launcher
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Male 209
He`s just referring to a bit of rough and tumble foreplay loving right?
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Male 7,378
"and must not make her face ugly" if he`s married to a saudi it`s too late for that.
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Male 737
oh, my God. I thought this headline was a joke. What sucks is that this kind of idiocy gets associated with Islam, which is not so friggin` backwards.
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Female 83
wow, it`s so scary how some places are like that.
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Male 20,917
Link: How To Beat Your Wife [Rate Link] - Saudi author and cleric, Dr. Muhammad Al-`Arifi advises men on how to beat their wives.
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