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It seems 22% of women are abused in the states. Whilst that might tie in to quite how much common sense there is in the states, I doubt it.
Sorry, got cut off there.
It`s true... though the people who change it often get killed, it definitely changes with time or it would be seen as nearly insane.
Don`t tout the inferiority of western philosophy until you`ve convinced your fellows in Islam to stop killing each other with stones. Your vapid ad hominem attacks are a feeble attempt to validate an archaic and pedestrian system of subjugation and social enslavement. Where do Honor Killings fit in the hierarchy of Islamic Rule? No to my knowledge there isn`t a standard in Christianity regarding "how to Beat Your Wife" Largely because it`s understood that you Just Don`t Do It. No need for a divine directive, it`s a matter of common sense.
Oh, and look up the definition of the word "rights" I think it has something to do with POWER... which is what someone who beats on someone else DEFINITELY HAS.
Actually the man is the only one who has no rules governing restraint beyond outright assault.
In other words the one with fewest rights in the matter.
So bite me. (Islamically, you`re allowed).
Nowpleaserea: Utter bull. As demonstrated here.
The main thing is... wifey gets beaten, kids can get beaten, BUT THE HUSBAND NEVER DOES, DOES HE?
In other words boys and girls, the women and kids are beneath the man, and he in actuallity can do anything he wants. We in western society DO actually have laws to try and even things out, even if it does not work perfectly.
So, stop harping like whiny idiots about how naughty the west is when you watch a video about how to beat your wife in the middle east, `k?
No, really. This is culture, not religion. Islam is a very pro-woman rights religion. They granted divorce, property, and inheritance rights far before the other Abrahamic religions.
And just because this guy is on tv doesn`t mean he isn`t a small minority. We`ve seen the crazy stuff Rev. Wright said on tv, but that doesn`t mean we all agree with him. For all we know, this clip was mistranslated or in context with a program condemning what was said.
-_- My, my, my. How we jump to conclusions.
Telling someone how to live and telling someone not to beat their wife is a little bit different.
Looking down upon a culture is just ignorant. Get over it.
Care to extrapolate?
Kids can be spanked with bare hands.
The whole point is that there are limitations, which you`ve completely flipped around. What are the limitations in Christianity? Atheism? Oh wait, none, so I guess that means this is ok over there huh:
Looky a picture n everything. Your entire society sucks.
"Honey!? Come here a sec."XD
That culture of his is sickening, and based on a load of balls. I`d like to turn up and see if he could beat teh poo out of me tbh
People, people, people. This really has nothing to do with religion, apart from the fact that it is a cleric talking about it. Christianity doesn`t say to beat your wife, if anything the opposite, saying respect and whatnot, as does the Koran.
It is a culture thing, nothing more. Not that, that is any excuse at all.
Almost makes me want to fly a plane into his house...
There`s kind of a difference. In America, a wife-beater is considered a pile of poo and would be put in jail, this video is showing people who think that the practice is acceptable.
It`s real. I usually side with the liberals on most things, but Islam is way more f-dup than any of the seem to realize. This is just the tip of the iceberg, an iceberg made of frozen stink.
America, drat yeah! There is absoloutly no cases of wife-beating whatsoever!
Do you know the context of those statements in that show? I have heard people say worse things in Dr Phil, for example.
I agree, I speak Iranian no Arab. (Unfortunetly, I have come to learn that I probably wont have to look at Ahmadinejad’s lips as he’s being translated. Clerics=bad speakers. Did you see him on Larry King? Terrible)
But yes, having a true blue translation may be needed. Hey, they had a South Park episode where they made it look like Osama watches FG. Is it real? Of course not
How do we know that`s really what they`re talking about and not someone`s idea of a joke? Yeah, I see a box crediting translation in the top-left corner but is that authentic?
If this is real, it has nothing to do with religion as far as I`m concerned. Only a dispicable, cowardly, cruel and heartless man would beat his wife for ANY reason; all those traits transcend race and religion and that`s that.
Unfortunately, we live in a society where we judge the many by the few
But you must realize that you could also pick out the bad partsof other religions
But what shams me even more, even more than the fact that all clerics are bad speaks and Ahmadiejad’s a terrible speaker….even more that there are so many bad interpretations and that here are more than a few Muslim scholars that are pow- ah screw that this has nothing to do it.
The point is we are a society that judge the many by the few and are prone to group a bunch of similar but different things together….ie stereotyping.
all man is curupt, therefore all religion is currupt
*backs away slowly while offering no help whatsoever to his beleaguered collague*
Primetimekin, I think you meant to say `what do you tell a woman with a black eye?`...
You do realize that the comment said, "Saudi" refering to Saudi Arabia, not the person`s religion. Madest`s comment, "if he`s married to a saudi it`s too late for that.", was racist, or more accurately, regionist but racist is close enough given what the average person knows about that region.
And I also love how the majority of Americans fighting in the Middle East for those poor women are men.
I`m a troll because I don`t believe in religion? Wow, are you sure you`re really from Europe? You sound like more of an evangelical American to me.
Seriously, though, I don`t see the big deal. It`s terrible he`s condoning beating women, but he`s preaching that one shouldn`t leave permanent damage, which seems to be a humanitarian step forward from the "beat them until you feel like stopping" policy. That`s more than I can vouch for in a lot of American homes.
If that`s the best argument against me then I`m doing just fine here. :)
"twice doesn`t make the entire rest of my post"
So you would beat a CHILD? AND a woman? Well I guess it`s a relief that they beat `lightly`
rofl. "Crap, hes right! I better point out the part where he insulted me to make him look like the badguy!"
Talk about drating cop-out tactics. The fact that I said "learn to read" twice doesn`t make the entire rest of my post any less accurate and you know it.
Violence isn`t right, and I don`t condone his message, but I`m finding it funny how people are so outraged about how he can speak about it so calmly. Because he was trained to believe it`s perfectly fine. Doesn`t make it fine for American culture, but it`s acceptable in his. And, fortunately or unfortunately, American culture is not the dominant culture of the world.
No he didn`t, learn to read.
"He then goes on to say that christians preach domestic violence."
"Then he says that christianity does some drated up poo, but islam is just as bad."
This is true, but even if you don`t agree that it`s true, it still has nothing to do with racism.
I can`t believe that people even need to discuss the beating of their wives. It should not be done at all. And the beating of children, slapping them left and right, that`s just ridiculous.
I wish I could just shake some of these people.Enlighten them.
Pockets of the extremists? This is being broadcast on drating TV. Even if you are right, and in where ever this is being broadcast, the majority of men would never beat their wives, it is still obviously something that`s okay to talk about on TV in their eyes! That`s disgusting enough!
I was completely doing it by instinct. Now I can at least have formal training
Violence is wrong, always.
Seriously, how can these guys talk about that so... normally?!
I know im not supposed to say this but their culture is off da hook and just lying allover to proverbial hallway where anyone can trip on it. If you get me
You racist bastard
People say how scary Islam is, yet look at all the effed up poo Christianity can do. Honestly I think both religions are the same.