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and im done.
and on a side note i hate all these new i-am-boreders with the random face pic.. where did you all come from? i leave for like 2 weeks and your everywhere lol
and yes the salary argument is irrelevant but there is no need to get heated he was merely stating a fact. besides, its not like they`re gonna play against each other anyway. and if they did none of us would be complaining either way.
By the way, if you think that`s horrific read about this poor rugby kid who killed himself because of his injuries:
i`m from england, the home of rugby, naturally i like the sport and i play.
i`m also a huge NFL fan, these arguements always make me laugh.
oh and craigf, they do kick, ask any pats fan he`ll tell u all about jay feely
Kind of uncalled for, implying that I`m stupid. But to answer your question, "Yeah, me stupid."
Yeah, I believe most people do "go into sports" to score a big payday. Regardless of what you`d "like to believe," I doubt we`d see many people committing their lives to grueling two-a-days and the travel and discipline if they were making minimum wage doing it. Sure, some would, but I doubt there would be many. I don`t see many amateur football leagues here in the U.S.
Maybe you`re right, though. Maybe rugby players are stronger and faster and tougher and more brutal than NFL players, but choose to turn down millions of dollars each year so they can go out and play against others who do it simply for the love of the game.
for all those saying football players are bigger and strong. show me the stats and ill take your word for it. i look pretty damn big in football pads to, and all those comments are coming from people in the u.s. who probly have watched a few youtube videos of rugby before deciding who is bigger and stronger.
and to those people rolling their eyes going "another argument between rugby and football" you should have assumed that when you read the caption beside the title, get over it.
:D Sorry X. I truly didn`t want this to happen, but I can`t help but to respond. You know how important it is to be right in internet forums. ;)
I was joking when I said that my judgement was the end of the discussion. I don`t think I should be evaluated by that criteria.
As far as my supposition that NFL players might be faster and stronger than rugby players based on the logic that rugby players would actually play football if they could, because of the lottery-like payout, I looked it up. It appears that some top rugby players pull in about 1/2 million dollars per year, which would be eclipsed by the 12 million or so a top NFL player commands. So, unless that information is wrong, my original hunch was c
So, you`re attacking headlong for your side with no supporting evidence either way, and then when someone questions your opinion, you balk and contradict yourself?
Sorry, but I think you just made yourself look like a fool on both comments."
Alright, alright. I deserve this for sticking my nose into an argument that invites such animosity. But, I gotta defend myself (despite my better judgement).
First of all, I didn`t "attack" anybody. I think I expressed admiration for rugby players.
I have watched football more than could possibly be good for me. And I`ve seen enough rugby, on the television and even in person, to know that these guys are just not as big as football players, overall. As far as speed goes, the NFL is filled with guys who were Olympic athletes. So, at the very least, their speed equals other top athletes.
Sorry, but I think you just made yourself look like a fool on both comments.
Yeah, I`ve seen some rugby. But, no, I haven`t watched a rugby match all the way through.
Hey, maybe I`m wrong. Maybe rugby players are stronger and faster than NFL players. Maybe they`re stronger and faster and tougher and gutsier (word?).
I am just going on a few assumptions including the fact that football players are paid millions of dollars each year and I`d think that if rugby players could make that dough in the NFL, then they`d do it. Then again, maybe they do make millions of dollars and my assumption that they don`t is wrong. I honestly don`t know how much a rugby player makes.
Like I said, I`m not taking anything away from rugby players. They take risks and play through pain that most NFL players probably couldn`t handle. It`s definitely a man`s sport, and it looks like it would be a good alternative to watching football.
New Zealand All Blacks haka opening. If anyone would mess with this team after watching that, you`re crazy.
American Football vs. Rugby Okay, I found a football vs. rugby vid. Like I said before, football is rough, but imagine those hits without any padding other than muscle and thick socks. There you have rugby.
Rugby: The sport and it`s injuries For those of you who have no idea how
Let me settle this (and I expect no more debate):
An American football player would absolutely demolish a rugby player in a single hit. But, he couldn`t hold up through an entire game, because he couldn`t take the pain and brutality of this sport where the only padding and protection is a thin layer of skin covering bone.
A rugby player would get tossed around like a ragdoll in a game of American football, because the football players are enormous men who have developed their bodies to the limits of what is humanly possible. But, that rugby player would make a great "gunner" on special teams where guts and toughness account for half of the battle when you`re running down the field attempting to break a wedge.
I`m a fan of football, but I respect rugby. Football players are stronger and faster. Rugby players are tougher and more brutal.
That`s it. End of discussion.
It`s called a joke. When someone is stupid or has horrible grammar, people say, "LERN 2 ENGRISH PLZ".
are you telling me its harder to memorize plays, than it is to create them while playing? rugby players only use plays off a scrum, and after that the game may not stop for 10 minutes. and you wanna say its harder to just memorize something than it is to think on the spot? maybe you wanna look up the rules of rugby and watch a little of it before you go making comments like that...
Rugby is tougher. End of. (I still couldn`t play either without crying lmao.)
On a side notes, from what I hear American football players are giant bastards off the pitch. So I guess that`s one thing the two sports have in common. Working in a bar when a rugby team in is a nightmare.
"Horrific Leg Break In American Football. OK Rugby, what`s your comeback?"
this guy got taken out at the knees and you want to say football is a more manly sport than rugby? you want to use this video? common, this doesnt show anything. this guy got totally blindsided and could happen in any contact sport. it has nothing to do with getting hit harder in one game or another, cause he was taken out at the knee! all you`ve proven is that football fans are idiots.
i dono where you did your research, if any. cause i have done it, and ive played both rugby and football. first, football pads are designed to reduce pain, and yes protect bones from breaking. football pads are designed to distibute the force of an impact throughout the players body to prevent breaking bones. and clearly this is going to be a lot less painfull that getting hit full on with no buffer at all....
and from personal experience, rugby players hit harder than football players. this is something i wouldnt expect an american to understand because the sport isnt very big in your country, and is growing in canada. i also went on a rugby tour to england and whales, and if a football player took his pads off to play with the men, he would be crying from their new understanding of pain.
Holy crap guys! According to Backdraft_07, Canada is no longer in (North) America!!!
Onto the video: that looked more like the femur coming out of its socket.
yea so manly to run into other people as fast as you can, and exagerate everything afterwards
the worst injury ive had in rugby doesnt compare to this. i was in a scrum as a second rower. it colapsed and the prop who weighed about 120kg (we were 14 at the time) trod on the inside of my knee. because we would have forfitted the game had i come off i continued with a bloody, brused and useless leg. about 10mins later i was involved in another scrum which colapsed and the same thing happened again. i still stayed on for the last 20 mins, but all i did was hop around as i couldnt put any wieght on it. still as a 14yo i proved what a man you have to be to play rugby.
And also 18+ my ass! You could only see the break in slow mo and even then it was pretty weak.
Firstly, You seem to be the only person in the world who knows this. I googled it and found nothing, Post me the link and i will believe you.
Secondly, you seem to have completely missed my point. He was saying people who play football (soccer)should call it kickball, but i see no reason to do that as the name "football" already states how the game is played. I was merely pointing out to him that there is a reason why people ask why american football is called football as it it mainly played with thier hands.
And last, did you just say "lern ur stuf?" learn your english before you go judging people, would those extra 4 letters really make a big difference in the length of time it takes you to type that?
They`ll be at home watching the Jets/Fins playoff game. (Oh, it`s coming. Trust me.)
however while rugby players are built for endurance, if any one of then tried to tackle say, Shaun Rogers or Brandon Jacobs, they would get trucked.
still both sports rock.
`Mrrcan FOOTBAWL ROX. RUGBY SUX LOL.
We`re lucky there wasn`t a mic down on the field, or we would have heard him screaming!!
How are the Bucs this year?
1. They hit a lot harder than rugby players, and those pillows only protect the bones, not the pain.
2. I like the whole stop start thing. It builds up suspenseful moments
AHH! INTERNAL CONFLICT!
because football in europe is played with your foot and american football is played with your hands, which the title suggests otherwise. Your comment is irrelevant.
Its called football because originally the ball was exactly a foot long. Lern ur stuf.
Sure thing is that the NFL players would die, they simply are not fit enough to play 90 min games... Also if they try to tackle at rugby like at NFL without padding, they probably would be dead on the first assault, or wish they are.
Edit: Also, thats a stupid idea and you expect each camp to win its game. I would only assume that Rugby player will hold it better because they are fitter and have been programmed to handle impact without paddings which should give them an edge to cope at American Football not too badly.
because football in europe is played with your foot and american football is played with your hands, which the title suggests otherwise. Your comment is irrelevant.
See? This is PRECISELY the IQ differential between american football and rugby that I was trying to point out earlier.
So let me continue. My personal sports knowledge mostly comes from ice hockey, ultimate (frisbee) and field band.
Hockey is a brutal sport, surpassing football and rugby based on the sheer force delivered through a check (players can go faster, as well as stop faster). However, hockey players are smart enough to wear 30 lbs of padding. Even when they do get injured though, you will hear of hockey players playing through the playoffs on a broken leg, or with a broken jaw.
I won`t go into detail on how field band is actually a sport, though I will ask you to try to move 10 yards in six steps in 3 seconds, without your torso bouncing or moving, and playing a 15 lb instrument.
Ultimate is probably the best "friendliness" sport. There are no refs, or possibly informal ones at higher levels. The entire sport is built on the "spirit of the game." Though, ultimate and rugby ar
i was in the stands for pitt vs rutgers game in Oct. (disgrace for pitt lol) but the pitt QB got a spine injury around half time from a tackle, not only did the entire rutger`s team get on their knees and have a moment of silence while helplessly watching the proceedings, they cheered and clapped as loud as the pitt fans when the QB raised his left arm and gave a thumbs up sign from the stretcher, there is friendship between teams, just not WHILE they are on the field, as with any sport
False. Have you ever seen a 250lb (115 kg) man run 40 yards (36.5) in 4.5 seconds? And with the intension of hitting you head on? [Note: this is 18mph, or 30km per hour]
I`ll admit that they don`t play full games, but time spent on the field and physical exertion vary drastically between sports. For example, in ice hockey, most shifts last less than a minute. In football, everybody goes all out for about 5 seconds. In rugby and soccer, you play hard when the ball comes near you, but you have time where you don`t really have to put in much effort.
"True, rugby is true. No padding, no showing off. the Superball is 80% advertising and concerts, 10% miscallenous, 10% game. Thats BS."
If you only watch the "Superball," you won`t realize that there are Canadian, Collegiate, and indoor football leagues that are more interesting to watch
and i didnt refute (thats the word right?) those points, college football is WAYY better, i was just saying that to have a 2+ 300 pound men takes courage, and rugby is the same, 3 200 pound men ;-D
i hate the NFL....
BTW I think Fancylad just wants to test out the new `18+ mature audience` label. If you note, within the link itself there`s no such warning. And it`s in a different colour too.
That we enjoy stuff like this. =)
- Friendliness, something you hardly see between two American Football teams.- Fitness, no NFL player can play a complete game. When they ran 40ft most of them need medical assistance with oxygen.- True, rugby is true. No padding, no showing off. the Superball is 80% advertising and concerts, 10% miscallenous, 10% game. Thats BS.- Brain, most of rugby players aren`t professionals except nationals. Which means they are not complete idiots outside the pitch -very noticable during the pre/post game interviews.
I could keep going all night long. As much as I enjoy NFL games, I just purely hate everything that goes with it and I just think that`s sad for the sport.
it takes guts to have multiple 300 pound defenders tackle you from different sides (aka, both sports take courage)
as i said, rugby wins for most injuries (not as bad though)they also win for wince-worthy ball injuries
also, i kept thinking of prostitutes when you told that injury (hooker is american slang for prostitute, due to the civil war, (a general))
but i knew what you were saying, we have rugby in america....at least in schools
That said, I hope the player will be fine and get a chance to step on the pitch again at the same level he was playing.
On a serious note there are horiffic injuries in rugby especially when the front row of the scrum collapses where quite a few players have been paralysed, and if you talk about leg breaks danny cipriani last year broke and dislocated his ankle in the bottom of a ruck, one of the opposition players through up because of the sound it made
And so, this is big shiny new special feature you`ve been working on, mods? The mature audience warning? I`m glad to see you mastered it. Your 5 days+ work has paid off! :-D
(I`m only poking fun of course. Heh. I`m still anxious to see what it actually is you`re getting ready to unveil. I know it`ll be good.)
bobdaven, i said leg injury, not testicle injury
The sheer strength required break someone`s femur is frightening, but to see it break it two freaking places - I have sympathy pain shooting throughout my leg.
That`s all I`ve got to say.
No comeback really, you just sound dumb.
and Canadian football isn`t much different from American
Damn. I thought you were going to finish that sentence with "... for the fourth quarter".
Now THAT would have been hardcore.
Matt made a full recovery in time for this season as Manitoba`s starting running back.
The ugly I`ll give you, but dumb? No. In the UK and Ireland rugby is typically played by the "Upper Crust" grammar schools and Universities, while the lower-grade high schools and colleges play football (soccer). Most rugby players I know have degrees. And I mean real degrees, not the American sports-scholarship system where if you`re a 300lb neanderthal they`ll basically give you a degree in Communications or some crap just to get you on the college sports team.
also, what dilldog said, a european who prefers american football?! LYNCH HIM (sorry for this dom)