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Date: 11/22/08 10:07 AM

166 Responses to Eight Year-Old Murderer Retells Death

  1. Profile photo of Turnshroud
    Turnshroud Female 18-29
    4225 posts
    November 21, 2008 at 5:07 pm
    Link: Eight Year-Old Murderer Retells Death - Ok...let`s not be too hard on him
  2. Profile photo of tommy419
    tommy419 Male 13-17
    475 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 10:10 am
    if i was mad at my dad i would`nt shoot him ( if i was 8 )
  3. Profile photo of mcrack50
    mcrack50 Female 13-17
    156 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 10:12 am
    oh. um.
    i`m going to ignore how awful this is and blame video games.
  4. Profile photo of Codmily
    Codmily Female 18-29
    360 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 10:12 am
    That is the saddest thing I`ve ever heard. Where did an eight year old learn how to reload a gun? what what this kid`s incentive to kill his own father?? I can`t even believe this.
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    Chiburashka Male 18-29
    292 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 10:12 am
    He says "I think" a lot. Did he black out? Is he covering for mommy?
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    aph3x Male 18-29
    81 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 10:14 am
    he played doom and was listening to marilyn manson while shooting his dad
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    CinematicD Female 18-29
    239 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 10:16 am
    It sounds like he`s being set up... He does say "i think" way too much.
  8. Profile photo of tommy419
    tommy419 Male 13-17
    475 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 10:16 am
    it must have been a .22 rifle because any other would hard for a eight year old to shoot
  9. Profile photo of tornadofdoom
    tornadofdoom Male 13-17
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    November 22, 2008 at 10:16 am
    That is screwed.

    The kid doesn`t even sound like he`s apologetic, more of just whatever.

    That is drated up, my friend.

  10. Profile photo of Zerocyde
    Zerocyde Male 18-29
    3256 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 10:20 am
    @Codmily

    His father was an avid hunter and took his boy out all the time. The parents even bought him his own gun, though I can`t remember if it was his gun he shot the men with or not.

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    videogamer Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 10:23 am
    LOL at mcrack.

    But yes, this was chilling to listen to. The thing is, I don`t think he realized the full extent of what he did. I`m sure he believes that death can be fixed, like a broken bone.

  12. Profile photo of deathxtra
    deathxtra Male 13-17
    2791 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 10:29 am
    Daddy wouldn`t give me a cookie.

    So I shot him.

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    WHOISIT12345 Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 10:31 am
    deathxtra
    Male, 13-17, Western US
    1202 Posts Saturday, November 22, 2008 10:29:23 AM
    Daddy wouldn`t give me a cookie.

    So I shot him.

    good!

  14. Profile photo of s0rd3dvis1on
    s0rd3dvis1on Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 10:33 am
    "he was still moving so i shot him again"

    I wonder if he was having post traumatic stress flashbacks from shooting a buck with his dad or something.
    the question still stans though WTF?

  15. Profile photo of burjo7
    burjo7 Male 18-29
    175 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 10:34 am
    poo, thats awful, i hope the kid regrets what he did, he probably didn`t realise what he was doing.
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    VikingGuy Male 18-29
    2160 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 10:35 am
    he was mad at his dad? wtf, i had all sorts of trouble with my dad in the past but be drated if being mad at someone is ever a valid reason to shoot them, stick this kid in the lockup and dont let his ass out is what i say, fecking psychopath.
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    owlspawn Male 13-17
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    November 22, 2008 at 10:40 am
    Sounds like this kid has some experience, he reloaded just incase, shot his dad again because he was moving, and could kill two adults. Coincidence? I think not.
  18. Profile photo of ParasyT
    ParasyT Male 13-17
    533 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 10:41 am
    the irony is the dad probably taught him how to shoot to begin with.
  19. Profile photo of Charizzo
    Charizzo Male 18-29
    668 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 10:55 am
    http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/11/08/chil...

    there`s the story for those who are interested.

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    cielrouge Female 18-29
    119 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 10:59 am
    if he were black he be tried as an adult and executed
  21. Profile photo of fnkychkn
    fnkychkn Female 40-49
    855 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 11:01 am
    take him out "behind the barn" and kill his ass. This is what happens when you let kids do what they want, when they can`t get what they want, they go nuts. Control them young, and this would never happen.
  22. Profile photo of scoreJ6
    scoreJ6 Male 13-17
    53 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 11:01 am
    Was very matter-of-fact, where`s the tear-jerker?
  23. Profile photo of clemsonrox
    clemsonrox Female 13-17
    131 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 11:13 am
    Why did he keep saying "i think"? He knows what he did.
  24. Profile photo of basketkase
    basketkase Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 11:13 am
    wow
  25. Profile photo of Red5TheFinn
    Red5TheFinn Male 13-17
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    November 22, 2008 at 11:13 am
    I think this is all based around that the kid knew where the gun was.

    But I really don`t think he should be tried as a juvenile, he`s only eight. Don`t waste his childhood.

  26. Profile photo of Llamaz
    Llamaz Male 13-17
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    November 22, 2008 at 11:22 am
    cielrouge, your statement, "if he were black he be tried as an adult and executed" is not only very lacking in grammatical structure and correct spelling, but also is incorrect.
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    jessica_j435 Female 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 11:23 am
    this obviously is no normal eight year old. sure maybe he was mad at his dad but not many kids would just pick up a gun and shoot their dad. and even if it was in the heat of the moment and shot him the first time, he wouldnt shoot him again after he kept moving! That`s a bit extreme.
  28. Profile photo of McDuff73
    McDuff73 Male 30-39
    870 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 11:24 am
    The impact of allowing everyone to have guns!
  29. Profile photo of joofro
    joofro Male 18-29
    548 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 11:30 am
    this kid should be put down, or sentenced to life, hes drated up
  30. Profile photo of Vindictive
    Vindictive Female 18-29
    1077 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 11:37 am
    "billy just wasnt the same after a shootout occurred during a game of cops and robbers.."

    That`s one of the funnier comments I`ve seen on here.

  31. Profile photo of Benoxxxx
    Benoxxxx Male 13-17
    55 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 11:44 am
    Thats pretty siniser, I dunno what you`d do with a kid like that, he makes it sound normal.

    I never want children.

  32. Profile photo of TKD_Master
    TKD_Master Male 18-29
    4794 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 11:46 am
    well, at least the kid had the heart to put his squirming dad out of his misery.
  33. Profile photo of freespangler
    freespangler Male 30-39
    78 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 11:48 am
    Look, my heart goes out to everyone involved in this horrific tragedy. With that being said, I am a father of 3- if my son did something like this to ANY of my family, I would hope he would get life in prison or mental institution. Period. He is severely disturbed and needs to be punished. End of discussion.
  34. Profile photo of JokeWolf
    JokeWolf Male 18-29
    108 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 11:57 am
    Aww, but he was just expressing himself.
  35. Profile photo of ShakeNBake
    ShakeNBake Male 18-29
    265 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 12:10 pm
    why was he mad at his dad??
  36. Profile photo of RetroPoodle
    RetroPoodle Male 13-17
    59 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 12:10 pm
    crap, that kid has problems
  37. Profile photo of cahalla
    cahalla Female 18-29
    961 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 12:21 pm
    I think he needs serious help, if an 8 year old first of all knows how to load a gun and aim to shoot, he has obviously been taught some things in the wrong way. I understand people teach their sons how to hunt, but he obviously was not given proper gun safety/rule lessons.
    Second, he needs to be in a pychiatric ward for a very very very long time. =( so sad...
  38. Profile photo of heartx3jess
    heartx3jess Female 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 12:23 pm
    "But I really don`t think he should be tried as a juvenile, he`s only eight. Don`t waste his childhood."

    He murdered his family... as an 8 year old. Imagine him in 10 years.

  39. Profile photo of Gexxo
    Gexxo Male 18-29
    673 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 12:25 pm
    There`s something verrrry suspicious going on here. Since when would an 8 year-old have the foresight to reload? Would an 8 year-old even know how to reload? Either he`s being set-up or was learning about these kinds of things from a really young age, in which case I`m not surprised this happened.
  40. Profile photo of WhenIsLunch
    WhenIsLunch Male 18-29
    460 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 12:33 pm
    i think the kid has mental problems, he talks about killing his dad and friend like its an everyday thing. i say off to the loonybin for you
  41. Profile photo of geek_nimrod
    geek_nimrod Female 18-29
    371 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 12:33 pm
    Death penalty!!!
  42. Profile photo of juliakiwi
    juliakiwi Female 13-17
    39 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 12:34 pm
    i can he be so normal-sounding when hes talking about how he killed his dad...-__-
  43. Profile photo of s0rd3dvis1on
    s0rd3dvis1on Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 12:41 pm
    id use the kid to scare prisoners into going straight.
  44. Profile photo of splurbyburbl
    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
    2798 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 12:41 pm
    "and then, I went to the basement where my mother was and cut out the unborn child. While she was still alive, but bleeding to death, I then smashed the baby`s head against the wall. After that, I shot my mother twice in the head. I waited two hours and killed five puppies, voted democrat, clubbed a baby seal, joined the ACLU and protested the war in Iraq while claiming my supporet for the troops."


    "Was this bad??"

  45. Profile photo of amaqdrinker
    amaqdrinker Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 12:51 pm
    i`m pretty sure there is more to this story, i`ll try and find it and submit it.
  46. Profile photo of Overmann
    Overmann Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 12:54 pm
    Lock `im up.
  47. Profile photo of megann_exoh
    megann_exoh Female 13-17
    688 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 12:58 pm
    i shot my dad.. he was still moving.. shot again.. went downstairs.. reloded just incase..

    SORRY WHAT??

    an 8-year-old knows how to reload a gun..?

    i think thats the root of the problem right there.

  48. Profile photo of SoxXxhXcxSeX
    SoxXxhXcxSeX Female 18-29
    497 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 1:00 pm
    lawl juvy xD
    hes going to kill someone after that!!
  49. Profile photo of __carebear__
    __carebear__ Female 13-17
    688 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 1:01 pm
    oh. my. goodness.

    great ad for gun control tho.

    I mean, if the 8 year old knows how to get a gun & reload it, I`m with megann, that`s one of the main problems.

  50. Profile photo of last_ninja
    last_ninja Male 18-29
    610 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 1:02 pm
    aaaameerica, america, god shed his grace on thee....
  51. Profile photo of ElDavo
    ElDavo Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 1:12 pm
    He`s 8... I don`t know what to say. I mean... but... there isn`t any... no. That didn`t happen. I don`t accept it.
  52. Profile photo of jimbobsthebe
    jimbobsthebe Male 18-29
    639 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 1:14 pm
    America, f*ck yeah!
  53. Profile photo of Wtfidklol
    Wtfidklol Male 13-17
    193 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 1:16 pm
    three cheers for the second amendment, everybody!
  54. Profile photo of JHSpring26
    JHSpring26 Male 18-29
    492 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 1:20 pm
    holy poo! the kid is 8 and has a body count!
  55. Profile photo of xiquiripat
    xiquiripat Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 1:24 pm
    Kill that little bastard...
  56. Profile photo of AndrewST
    AndrewST Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 1:33 pm
    Wtfidklol
    Male, 13-17, Western US
    39 Posts
    Saturday, November 22, 2008 1:16:26 PM
    "three cheers for the second amendment, everybody!"
    ---------------------------

    What the hell does this have to do with the Second Amendment? That comment is like saying "Three heers for letting people drive!" because someone was killed in a car accident. It isn`t the firearms fault, or in my example the cars fault. It is fault of the human!

    If you are trying to point fingers at anyone, point them at the father or the individual that left the firearm where the child could get to it.

    --------------

    As for this video itself, it is to bad the child is disturbed to the point that he would be willing to do something like this. It makes you wonder what type of home life he has/had, most young children are a reflection of their home life.

  57. Profile photo of britt566
    britt566 Female 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 1:34 pm
    *sigh* the good years...
  58. Profile photo of Ty-Force
    Ty-Force Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 1:36 pm
    Little bastard thinks it`s a joke. that`s how psychos are born.
  59. Profile photo of Concetra
    Concetra Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 1:37 pm
    "Look, my heart goes out to everyone involved in this horrific tragedy. With that being said, I am a father of 3- if my son did something like this to ANY of my family, I would hope he would get life in prison or mental institution. Period. He is severely disturbed and needs to be punished. End of discussion."

    Agreed. They need to lock him up in solitary confinement with the room being 110 degrees, no lights, and he would only be given a slice of stale bread and a cup of warm salty water a day.

    Oh and also Rick Roll would be playing 24/7.

  60. Profile photo of opiebreath
    opiebreath Female 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 1:43 pm
    I just...

    I don`t get it.

  61. Profile photo of AnwarNova
    AnwarNova Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 1:43 pm
    To whoever`s been saying this is a second amendment issue...from the sound of it, this kid would have found some way to kill his dad with or without a gun.

    He needs help, but no jail`s going to help him.

  62. Profile photo of caboose117
    caboose117 Male 13-17
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    November 22, 2008 at 1:47 pm
    "
    "But I really don`t think he should be tried as a juvenile, he`s only eight. Don`t waste his childhood."

    He murdered his family... as an 8 year old. Imagine him in 10 years."

    Who knows... I`d think they should watch over him carefully after he leaves juvie, and just see if he can rehabilitate. Eight year olds can still be molded the right way... maybe...

    but seriously, 8 year old that good with guns?

  63. Profile photo of Moopgasm
    Moopgasm Male 18-29
    250 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 1:54 pm
    just kill the bassturd
  64. Profile photo of ReesesPieces
    ReesesPieces Female 18-29
    1692 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 1:55 pm
    holy poo that`s scary.... he seems so calm about it.
  65. Profile photo of cbs12251971
    cbs12251971 Male 30-39
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    November 22, 2008 at 1:58 pm
    hey, at least Micheal Myers had the testicular fortitude to do it with a knife...a really BIG knife!
  66. Profile photo of yudontn0me
    yudontn0me Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 2:05 pm
    he should be tried as an adult. he knew exactly what he was doing, and he "reloaded just in case" he knew.
  67. Profile photo of MountainBord
    MountainBord Female 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 2:17 pm
    and then...
  68. Profile photo of discordany
    discordany Female 13-17
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    November 22, 2008 at 2:26 pm
    Mixed feelings here. I mean, part of me believes he`s guilty; he sounds so calm, and God knows there are drated up people, even children, our there.

    But at the same time, his constant "I thinks" make me skeptical. Is he being coached? Hell, Im on here to procrastinate from doing a paper on children as unreliable witnesses; if the question is worded even slightly wrong (Ie. "Did you see *a* broken window?" vs. "Did you see *the* broken window?") you can get very different, unaccurate answers. How you do you leading (even unintentionally leading) questions didnt help form this confession? Or someone, once again, coaching him?

    I dont know what to think... but I hope it would be the second case :S

  69. Profile photo of jareddevour
    jareddevour Male 18-29
    288 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 2:28 pm
    @yudontn0me

    Are you kidding? He`s 8!! 3rd grade. If we`re gonna try 8 year olds as adults we might as well just completely throw out the juvenile court system.

    The juvenile court isn`t for kids too young to know what they`re doing. It`s for people who still have enough time to change themselves and live normal lives afterwards.

  70. Profile photo of Ani187
    Ani187 Female 30-39
    4448 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 2:40 pm
    This is buzzing around my workplace. Is the confession genuine, is it fake? Kids crack under pressure so easily, it wouldn`t be hard to get them to agree to whatever you want. I dunno, guess we`ll see how it pans out.
  71. Profile photo of imstillbored
    imstillbored Male 13-17
    30 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 2:41 pm
    Hey, if an 8 year old knew how to reload a gun, he was probably playing too many rated M games.
    When I was 8 I didn`t know what a gun looked like. And if you get angry at your dad when you are 8 years old, do you shoot him? No, you scream and cry. Too much grand theft auto, halo, gears of war, call of duty, resident evil... And if I had an 8 year old kid I wouldn`t keep a gun in the house... and if i did it would be in a box that only i know the combination to.
  72. Profile photo of yoimmylene
    yoimmylene Female 13-17
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    November 22, 2008 at 2:50 pm
    Eek....scary kid is scary. :-/
  73. Profile photo of AndrewST
    AndrewST Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 2:52 pm
    imstillbored:

    I am not sure you could be any more wrong with your statement. It has been medically proven that video games do NOT increase violence in children and teenagers. But you wouldn`t have bothered to look that up before making that comment would you? It appears you favor snap judgments like most uninformed individuals.
    ---

    After watching this video a few times now it does sound as if the child has been coached. He sounds as if he is almost reading from a script, and has way too many "I think..." statements in it. What this video snippet doesn`t tell us is how long he was kept in the room with the "investigators".

    As a Father of two young children I can say first hand that when my children have done something wrong they don`t sit there and tell me "I think I did it...", it is a straight forward "No" or "Yes".

    Children are so easily coached and his confession doesn`t sound genuine.

    "I think I shot my Dad"

  74. Profile photo of moefreak
    moefreak Female 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 2:52 pm
    This is so sickening. I don`t know whether he`s guilty or not, as people have said, he could have been coerced to make those confessions. But I`m inclined to believe that he did do it, which is just horrifying. I would never own a gun, especially not if I had children.
  75. Profile photo of splurbyburbl
    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    November 22, 2008 at 2:54 pm
    Clearly this is all Bush`s fault. He had 8 years to get rid of the second amendment and he didn`t do anything!!

    Because of the 2nd Amendment that buys` gun told him to shoot those people. The right to bare arms is to blame completely for this.

    BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED!!

  76. Profile photo of moefreak
    moefreak Female 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 2:54 pm
    Actually AndrewST, although you`re right that it hasn`t been proved that violent videogames CAUSE violent behavior, there is a strong CORRELATION between the two. And if you wanna go down that road... it has never been proven that smoking CAUSES lungcancer, only that smoking and lungcancer correlate.
  77. Profile photo of nodar
    nodar Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 2:57 pm
    splurby.... just because you`re president doesn`t mean you can change whatever law you want whenever you want. Especially an amendment, and a controversial one at that.
  78. Profile photo of Ty-Force
    Ty-Force Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 2:58 pm
    Banning guns completely is retarded because maybe it would have saved this non-nice individual kids dad but he would have found some other way. also banning guns is dumb because it isn`t like you couldn`t get them illegally anyway. people need to think about things, banning guns is almost as retarded as banning gay marriage, it isn`t going to stop murders just like banning marriage isn`t going to stop people from being gay. people are stupid.
  79. Profile photo of splurbyburbl
    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    November 22, 2008 at 3:06 pm
    I was joking... trust me :)
  80. Profile photo of moefreak
    moefreak Female 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 3:07 pm
    Tv-force, how exactly do you think an 8-year old would have gotten a gun illegally? Also, how else would he have overpowered two grown men and killed them? And banning gay marriage is NOTHING like banning guns (which I`m not even suggesting- I`d prefer much stronger regulation). People are stupid, indeed.
  81. Profile photo of sheab2000
    sheab2000 Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 3:08 pm
    if you watch the entire interview the police really lead the kid on to confessing. I`m not saying that he did or didn`t do it but kids are suggestable at that age.
  82. Profile photo of Crucible
    Crucible Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 3:12 pm
    No dinner for you!
    *BANG*
  83. Profile photo of Norris
    Norris Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 3:15 pm
    too bad he wont get death penalty
  84. Profile photo of biblebasher
    biblebasher Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 3:28 pm
    Wow there goes a big chunk of his life.
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    boredfjord Male 13-17
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    November 22, 2008 at 3:56 pm
    imstillbored, how the hell could someone possibly figure out how to reload a gun from playing video games? None that I know show the process in any detail.
  86. Profile photo of freddyferret
    freddyferret Male 40-49
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    November 22, 2008 at 4:02 pm
    Then you have obviously never played "Gun Loader: Streets of LA"
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    WarlockHim Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 4:05 pm
    Anger problems eh? O.O;;
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    B3N0C1D3 Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 4:14 pm
    Here we go with the video game thing again... Consider this: Maybe video games don`t make kids kill people and rather their lack of understanding of the boundaries between a fictitious world and the one we live in do. Don`t blame a hunk of metal, transistors, and code for the failure of mentoring and the human brain.
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    ZenDragon Female 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 4:25 pm
    Don`t kill the kid.

    Lock him up with ALL the books from the suggested reading list and definitely no TV for the rest of his life. He should be permanently grounded.

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    Mantistador Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 4:47 pm
    what a little prick, did you see how he was lounging on that chair resting the back of his head with his hands and casually explaining how he just murdered 2 ppl...
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    ghostofme Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 5:00 pm
    Okay, all you people blaming this on video games can stop. You can actually blame this on his father. This kid is from St. Johns, which is like maybe twenty minutes from where I live and our local paper has been covering this since the beginning. The kid`s father had taught him how to shoot from a young age. His father wanted the boy to learn how to respect a firearm...but that obviously didn`t work out too well.

    It`s not because of video games, it`s not because of a `culture of violence,` it`s because that kid was taught how to shoot a weapon and because his father was doing something to that kid to set him off like that.

  92. Profile photo of ben117
    ben117 Male 13-17
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    November 22, 2008 at 5:09 pm
    okay a bit of video game violence and his father teaching him to shoot a gun i think they should just get him some pyschatric help not try to imprison an 8 YEAR OLD
  93. Profile photo of Adrift_Angel
    Adrift_Angel Female 18-29
    339 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 5:27 pm
    He doesn`t sound sorry at all...
  94. Profile photo of sabrewolf03
    sabrewolf03 Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 5:45 pm
    And then I reloaded just in case.
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    Eichenkatze Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 6:05 pm
    ben117
    Male, 13-17, Eastern US
    35 Posts Saturday, November 22, 2008 5:09:48 PM
    okay a bit of video game violence and his father teaching him to shoot a gun i think they should just get him some pyschatric help not try to imprison an 8 YEAR OLD

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    STFU it wasn`t video games for pete`s sake.
    read Ghostofme`s post.

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    TheGrag Male 13-17
    1497 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 6:05 pm
    Wow.
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    AndrewST Male 18-29
    181 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 6:13 pm
    Moefreak: http://www.smokinglungs.com/cigcaucb.htm
    That is just one link containing several sources siting the fact that cigarettes do cause cancer. This came about and became widely accepted in the medical field about 6 years ago.

    For your comment that says violence correlates to video games...wrong again. Here is one major study proving that it in fact DOESN`T

    http://news.illinois.edu/NEWS/05/0809vid...

    This was performed by the The University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. Again one of several studies proving that Video Games do not have a solid link to violence.

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    JJXanadu Male 30-39
    516 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 6:19 pm
    Splurbyburbl said:
    >Because of the 2nd Amendment that buys` gun told >him to shoot those people. The right to bare arms >is to blame completely for this.

    poo, we`re ALLOWED to own guns in this country...? I thought the right to bare arms let me wear short sleeve shirts if I wanted to...

    Wow, now all those 2nd amendment arguments make sense.

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    kmuggee Female 13-17
    681 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 6:41 pm
    yikes
    how the heck did that little kid know how to reload a gun?

    wow back when i was his age, i was still playing with toys, and watching cartoons 24/7
    kids grow up so fast..
    :/

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    ak4775 Male 30-39
    354 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 7:07 pm
    The kid tells the story in such a matter of fact way. Bit creepy, but still no concept of death.
    As for blaming gun laws... Get a grip! This tragedy falls at the feet of one person. The father.
    Lock up your weapons!
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    neveryours Female 13-17
    1269 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 7:29 pm
    he`s so non-challant and as ak4775 said `matter of fact`

    its scary to think how desensitized we are...
    i blame videos games...
    but i play them so idk
    i`d never shoot my dad

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    neveryours Female 13-17
    1269 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 7:32 pm
    o yeah:

    and not even that video games make it seem `right` to kill it just blurs the lines you know?
    no consequences in games huh?
    well guess what kid

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    FlameOfUdun Male 18-29
    1222 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 7:32 pm
    Murder has been around a lil bit longer than video games.
  104. Profile photo of neveryours
    neveryours Female 13-17
    1269 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 7:40 pm
    good point flame XDDD
    but im not entirely blaming video games not by a long shot...but he`s 8. that would be a major influence at his age...im gonna read up more on the article......................
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    Pendergast Female 18-29
    63 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 7:40 pm
    My cousions learned to load and shoot guns his age if not before. Thier father hunted as did they. (and still do) Guess what? They turned out to be fine upstanding adults and their father is still alive.

    Heck, a lot of kids around here know how to use firearms and none of them go about shooting thier parents and uncle.

    As for locking up the weapons... that logic might work if it where an accident. This wasn’t.

    The kid is screwed up.

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    firegodzilla Male 18-29
    175 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 7:48 pm
    dude, this kid was really mad, i wonder what his dad did to piss him off so much, whatever it was, it had better be bad
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    ak4775 Male 30-39
    354 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 7:59 pm
    Pendergast
    "As for locking up the weapons... that logic might work if it where an accident. This wasn’t."

    What a second. If the gun was locked up then the kid couldn`t have gotten a hold of it at all. How do you figure that? The kid needs a mental ward for sure, but how can an EIGHT yr old understand the consequences of that before he did it.


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    neveryours Female 13-17
    1269 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 8:00 pm
    firegodzilla:
    read the article
    its in the credits
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    wtffail Male 13-17
    162 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 8:18 pm
    he sounds proud of it. crazy little child...
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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
    2798 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 8:19 pm
    I think it`s very clear that we all must ban rock and roll, cigarretts, and all video games.

    We may as well ban all sex because it obviously gives us the chance that an eight year old monster will come along.

    Maybe we should cut off every persons trigger finger... that way, guns cannot possibly just get a mind of their own and start shooting unsuspecting Fathers out of the blue.

    To recap: No sex, no video games, no smoking and no trigger fingers and absolutely no rock and roll.

    Good job peeps, make it happen!

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    Baka-sama Female 13-17
    58 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 8:26 pm
    The kid is messed up. He sounded cheerful about it to me.
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    awesomo Male 13-17
    245 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 8:42 pm
    he sounded like he was talking about his day at school!

    "The kid is messed up. He sounded cheerful about it to me."

    He`s 8 and he killed two ppl! Of course he freaking insane!!!

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    Lord_Savior Male 18-29
    177 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 10:13 pm
    @ Splurby

    That`s ridiculous and idiotic. Why would you want to ban procreation (I`m assuming you mean procreation, not sex). Are you gay? No trigger fingers? Are you telling me you want to forcibly remove index finger of over 7 billion people? What about children (That is, all the children that would be left of course you sick bastard). And what`s wrong with video games? The only people that are susceptible to that non-sense are the people that are already f`ed up anyway! I have no idea what`s wrong with you but you should just take a deep breath and reconsider your life.

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    neveryours Female 13-17
    1269 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 11:01 pm
    @Lord_Savior
    ur joking right?
    please say yes...if you cant tell he`s being sarcastic somthing drastic needs to happen in your life...get off the interwebs and play outside or something......
  115. Profile photo of Ty-Force
    Ty-Force Male 18-29
    400 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 11:02 pm
    Ok, I was gone a while and to the guy that said that 8 year olds can`t get guns illegally, I said that he would have found some other way to kill them. it isn`t guns faults and they shouldn`t be banned. The kid is the problem not weapons. and if guns were banned murders would not stop.
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    patthebaker Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2008 at 11:02 pm
    lord savior his post was a joke... i think
  117. Profile photo of Rumo
    Rumo Male 13-17
    55 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 11:06 pm
    Geezus Christe.
    When I was 8 I was playing with legos.
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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
    2674 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 11:21 pm
    I don`t think he did it to be honest, they like pressured him to admit it, without even giving him a lawyer or anything. What they did was illegal :/ And, there has been times in which kids admitted to things they didn`t do because of being pressured.
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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
    2674 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 11:24 pm
    I saw part of the confession video on the news and earlier on, before he confesses, he was blaming the neighbors, but they continued to press on as if he was the one who did it.
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    headbanger80 Male 13-17
    438 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 11:29 pm
    my dad taught me how to use a gun when i was 7 and im fine (imo)
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    IloveShoes Female 18-29
    430 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 11:32 pm
    oh my word.
    I agree with you ty i grew up with my dad having a ton of guns but they were locked up in a safe always and we knew never to mess with them. If they ban guns anyways the people who misuse them will find ways to get them or use other acts of violence
  122. Profile photo of runicakira
    runicakira Female 18-29
    35 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 12:40 am
    What ticks me off is how people react so insanely to what`s put in the media. There`s a couple stories about something horrific that`s happened, and people start screaming about changing laws, etc. What about all the other thousands of people who are quite fine with the current setup? Of course, we never see that - it`d be boring. "Yep, everyone`s a-ok. Um... watch this cute puppy!"

    Anyway.. </soapbox>

    I think the kid was set up. =/ I have siblings that age, and they would never be strong enough to pull the trigger of a gun, not even a .22 rifle. Especially if they had to aim it at vital organs - there`s a reason .22 rifles are only used on small game. They`re not effective against anything much bigger than that.

    Of course, maybe the evidence says otherwise, and he really is a psychopath in the making. x.x

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    Willowpuff Female 18-29
    2220 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 1:21 am
    I think on the basis of him going, "I think I shot him" shows a little flaw in someone`s plan...


    But I agree with runicakira wholeheartedly.

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    FIRST_poster Male 18-29
    970 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 2:10 am
    "and i reloaded just in case"
    lmao, what games was he playing?
    i guess thats what th father got for letting him play counterstrike
  125. Profile photo of xboxman
    xboxman Male 13-17
    381 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 3:02 am
    Yes yes lets all blame the video games, not the environment/parents they grow up in/with.
  126. Profile photo of McDuff73
    McDuff73 Male 30-39
    870 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 4:09 am
    Ban guns! if the gun had not been there he couldn`t have shot those people.
    Look at the statistics for gun deaths in your country where guns are allowed and any other country where they are not! in 2004 there were 29,569 gun deaths in America as opposed 78 in the UK in a year! Something drastically wrong with a people that allow that to go on!
    And as for those asking for the death penaly for an 8 year old really!!? you need help.
    The death penalty does not work thats why there were still almost 17,000 murders in the US in 2007.66% of murders were committed by guns!
  127. Profile photo of brandonabe
    brandonabe Male 18-29
    27 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 5:07 am
    Violent crime didn`t go down in other countries where guns were banned. There goes your logic.
  128. Profile photo of McDuff73
    McDuff73 Male 30-39
    870 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 5:17 am
    did you just choose to ignore the fact that almost 30,000 people in your country died because of guns!
    or is that just collateral damage in an effort to stick to your constitutional rights?
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    McDuff73 Male 30-39
    870 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 5:22 am
    In the Uk
    * the rate of crime declined 10% over 2006-07
    * violent crime, vandalism and vehicle-related thefts all fell over the previous year (by 12%, 10% and 11% respectively)
    * the risk of becoming a victim of crime fell from 24% to 22%
    figures from the UK government!

    typical tactic of gun nut lie your ass off to keep your weapons!

  130. Profile photo of asphyxiated
    asphyxiated Female 13-17
    220 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 6:20 am
    Both the issue of video games and how he was raised matter. I`m glad he`s being charged. Being eight and being "mad" at his dad is no excuse. They should investigate his mom`s behavior too.
  131. Profile photo of splurbyburbl
    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
    2798 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 7:02 am
    "did you just choose to ignore the fact that almost 30,000 people in your country died because of guns!
    or is that just collateral damage in an effort to stick to your constitutional rights?"

    Because of guns? Or people with guns? Which one is it?? I say we vote to keep guns and get rid of people. Because without people, guns wouldn`t be imbued with a life of their own and start picking people at random in which to shoot.

    SO I GUESS INSTEAD OF BANNING ROCKA ND ROLL, VIDEO GAMES, TRIGGER FINGERS AND SEX... WE SHOULD JUST BAN PEOPLE INSTEAD.

    OK GUYS GO AWAY!!! WE ARE BANNING PEOPLE :)

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    orchydork Female 18-29
    406 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 7:07 am
    I saw this kid on TV. Idk.
  133. Profile photo of splurbyburbl
    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
    2798 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 7:13 am
    "The death penalty does not work thats why there were still almost 17,000 murders in the US in 2007.66% of murders were committed by guns!"
    The only reason capital punishment "isn`t working" the way it should is because there wasn`t 17,000 executions-- one for each murder. Perhaps if we toughened America up a bit, give everyone a gun, kill all the hippies (starting in Cali) and banished the ACLU to Iraq where they can fight for terrorists` rights directly-- then maybe we can start slaughtering all the yoohoo`s that think it`s cool to rape and murder.

    We`ll be doing the world a favor... population control as well as lower crime rate. Will this make you happy?

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    McDuff73 Male 30-39
    870 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 7:32 am
    I think population control should start with those with an iq of less the 85 so that should cover most gun nuts! :P
    then once we got rid of em all civility will be restored.
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    marvelking4 Male 13-17
    37 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 7:55 am
    is it just me or did anyone else find the way he told it kinda cute?
  136. Profile photo of Tdogg111
    Tdogg111 Male 13-17
    473 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 7:59 am
    that kid deserves to fry. I dont care if he`s 8 or 80. Murder is murder.
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    alfietoon Male 18-29
    1164 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 9:06 am
    i say rehabilitation
    the most bad-ass 8 year old ever i think.. he killed his dad because they had an arguement
  138. Profile photo of jenneh
    jenneh Female 13-17
    460 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 10:31 am
    I feel sorry for the whole family.

    I wonder - has anyone heard about the serial killings in Jennings (someone who doesn`t live in LA) that have been going on for a few years?

    Just wondering, because it`s getting worse. Haven`t really heard anything about it on the national news much.

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    lucehLOW Female 18-29
    357 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 10:42 am
    that was chilling

    xlucyx

  140. Profile photo of Myrmianin
    Myrmianin Female 18-29
    12 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 11:12 am
    If my son murdered my husband I would want him locked up for the rest of his life!
  141. Profile photo of ghostofme
    ghostofme Male 18-29
    516 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 11:54 am
    Hey jenneh, don`t feel too bad if your local news isn`t covering a series of murders. Back in 2006, here in Arizona, there were two seperate types of serial killers working within the span of a 20-mile radius.

    One was raping women on Baseline Road (afterwards he was dubbed with the title "The Baseline Rapist") and the other was shooting people at random in his car. Even killed a girl I knew from high school.

    It was not until the third or fourth rape occurred that the local news even began covering that, and it was not until five or six weeks after the "Serial Shooter" got started that anyone even knew. Turns out there were two "serial shooters," but I digress.

  142. Profile photo of crisbe
    crisbe Female 18-29
    36 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 12:21 pm
    It`s scary to think kids are getting crazier, younger. How an 8 year old is able to get a hold of a gun is bad. what next... third graders having sex and snorting coke?
  143. Profile photo of Poreka
    Poreka Female 13-17
    710 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 1:42 pm
    ...why?
  144. Profile photo of vicious_liar
    vicious_liar Male 13-17
    1226 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 1:55 pm
    he doesn`t seem too upset about it...something is siriously wrong with him...and his parents...how the heck did he get acces to a gun anyway?
  145. Profile photo of kokuryuha
    kokuryuha Female 18-29
    208 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 3:03 pm
    Seriously, how the FU CK could a little kid know how to use a gun?? His father must have shown him or something...still it`s sad that he didn`t seem to care.
  146. Profile photo of DavioMagnifi
    DavioMagnifi Male 13-17
    600 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 3:37 pm
    "So I think I shot him again"

    wtf kid either you shot your dad three times or not...
    get the story straight

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    dragonshadoz Female 18-29
    4031 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 3:42 pm
    This video doesn`t show what he said prior to this "confession." He had a different story before, and an article said that he only "confessed" after the police said, "Are you sure you didn`t do it?"
    They`re looking into the whole thing because the police apparently began interrogating him without reading him his rights or having a parent or lawyer in the room.
    And children at that age will go along with anything if you lead them enough. There was a case where a therapist got children to admit and even believe that they were molested by their nursery school teachers.
  148. Profile photo of duffytoler
    duffytoler Male 40-49
    5195 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 4:27 pm
    "...so then I went downstairs and reloaded the gun, and adjusted the sights because they were set for fifty-yard bullet drop and this was close range shooting. Then I saw Tim and figured the best way to put him down would be a headshot because these were full metal rounds and don`t have the same stopping power as my usual hollow-points, but I`m using iron sights on a 3-inch snubnose, no laser, so I had to steady the handgun on the balustrade..."

    Dunno. Seems a bit much for an 8-year-old.

  149. Profile photo of ninjabot
    ninjabot Male 13-17
    241 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 4:32 pm
    two people kid you dont think you now wtf is wrong with you just because you were mad dude
  150. Profile photo of Shellie84
    Shellie84 Female 18-29
    4197 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 4:38 pm
    this just seems all wrong to me. nothings adding up. also, again, the subject of domestic violence prior to this happening in the household has been totally forgotten.

    has anybody heard from the mother? neighbours? friends? was there domestic violence and if so, under what charges?

    and more is needed of the interview. the media can pick and choose pretty much want they want from the facts to make a story seem better.

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    ninjabot Male 13-17
    241 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 4:42 pm
    dont ban guns make people learn to control there anger by setling them down btw its not video games or the streets its the parents a mom says"my son just killed someone o no" where was she "o i was at the bar getting laid" way to stick around mom
  152. Profile photo of airsofter1
    airsofter1 Male 18-29
    1090 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 5:47 pm
    i doubt that he did it. i think the mom`s putting this on her kid, anybody else?
    GUNS DON`T KILL PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE... and kfc...
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    airsofter1 Male 18-29
    1090 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 5:49 pm
    btw splurbyburbl, ur 100% right.
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    TrixieBlue Female 40-49
    1063 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 6:05 pm
    Holy fkn shizznit! What`s the worlds children coming to?? this is very sad :-(
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    Spartano3 Male 13-17
    234 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 10:20 pm
    this is our future??????
  156. Profile photo of sgdp
    sgdp Female 18-29
    553 posts
    November 23, 2008 at 10:58 pm
    "McDuff73
    Look at the statistics for gun deaths in your country where guns are allowed and any other country where they are not! in 2004 there were 29,569 gun deaths in America as opposed 78 in the UK in a year!"

    You simply cannot compare the UK to the USA here. We were acknowledged our right to have guns thanks to to people like you who kept trying to kill us during the 1600s-1700s. ;)

    Oh, and by the way, you do realize America is far more populated, so comparing numbers instead of percentages is really misleading. You also have murders by other weapons to factor in there. Since less people have guns in the UK, they use knives, crowbars, etc.

    The US has 0.042802 per 1,000 people murdered.
    The UK has 0.0140633 per 1,000 people murdered.

    So the US has twice as many people murdered. However, Washington, DC has a UK-like ban on handguns, and it has the highest murder rate in the US, by far. So, you cannot really compare the two...

  157. Profile photo of McDuff73
    McDuff73 Male 30-39
    870 posts
    November 24, 2008 at 2:53 am
    firstly you were given the right to bear arms at a time when you had no standing army to talk of and quite rightly needed protection from the oppressive British army however that doesnt stand today as you have the best equipped military in the world! you dont all need to own guns now to protect you from the King!
    As for the stats its more like 3 times the amount of murders comitted but when you look at the stats for people killed with guns not just murders but accident as well its scary as crap if guns were not as available people wouldnt be able to access them as readily and less people would die!
    And one city having a ban is ridiculous if you can just go to the next town and buy all guns you want so its hardly a good example!
    Yes people use other things as weapons but they are all ultimately more survivable than bullets being shot into you!
  158. Profile photo of splurbyburbl
    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
    2798 posts
    November 24, 2008 at 6:07 am
    "However, Washington, DC has a UK-like ban on handguns, and it has the highest murder rate in the US, by far. So, you cannot really compare the two..."

    DC no longer has the gun ban... FYI (due to recent events)

    ALSO- McDuff:

    Our right to bare arms is for the EXACT reasons you just explained. Yes, our military is one of the best armed in the world. Our right to bare arms is to STAND AGAINST TYRANNY. If our Government were to one day decide to try to make the second Holocaust, we would be able to defend ourselves from afore mentioned well armed military.

    Although as a United States Marine I can honestly say that if my Commander told me to open fire on innocent civilians, I would shoot him in the face.

    But the point stands true to this day. We bare arms to protect ourselves from tyranny (sp?).

  159. Profile photo of pmarren
    pmarren Male 40-49
    4575 posts
    November 24, 2008 at 6:20 am
    I say string the little Hitler wannabe up. The little bastard needs to be put down.
  160. Profile photo of tjanator
    tjanator Male 13-17
    145 posts
    November 24, 2008 at 8:24 am
    He THINKS all this... it may still be a set up... lets give the little cutie the benefit of the doubt.
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    steve41high Male 18-29
    1153 posts
    November 24, 2008 at 9:00 am
    burn him. not as if he will ever amount to anything. Any 8 yo who can deliberatly kill 2 people, is obviously mentally disabled and should be put to sleep before he can f*ck up anybody elses lives.
  162. Profile photo of McDuff73
    McDuff73 Male 30-39
    870 posts
    November 24, 2008 at 10:08 am
    Splurby if you havent already noticed your country is in the grip of an Oligarchy they control you through religion and mass media already.
    The time for throwing off tyranny passed and you were armed and did bugger all about it!
    They were just a wee bit more subtle than sending in the troops so your arguement about retaining arms is irrelevant.
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    sweetrebelnc Female 18-29
    847 posts
    November 24, 2008 at 10:32 am
    how can yall just jump to conclusions like that. you dont know what the father was doing to the child. if he was abusing him, right on kid! if he wasnt...lock the kid up.
  164. Profile photo of Quackor
    Quackor Male 18-29
    2856 posts
    November 24, 2008 at 10:57 am
    what was going through that kid´s mind! they should study him, then gas him
  165. Profile photo of crimsonwarmt
    crimsonwarmt Female 18-29
    4 posts
    November 25, 2008 at 1:31 am
    i think thres more to the story than meets the eye. children that small dont shoot their parents like he did. what if he was being molested? what if he was being abused? we just dont know.
  166. Profile photo of felena
    felena Female 13-17
    381 posts
    November 25, 2008 at 5:57 pm
    he THINKS he shot him?

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