Cloning A Wooly Mammoth - Are We That Close?

Submitted by: Tdogg111 8 years ago in Science
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/20/science/20mammoth.html?_r=3&pagewanted=1&bl&ei=5087&en=cb254b577ccf4790&ex=1227330000

Scientists are on the verge of being able to clone extinct mammoths. I want one!
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Female 7
Honestly, I see no reason to actually go through with it. Keep it as a reminder of the past, but leave it as just that, only a reminder.
I don`t believe it would do anyone any good to start cloning a species that died out so long ago. Only give a few people their 15 minutes of fame.

Save the species we have now, don`t waste time cloning ones that are already gone.

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Male 35
i would definetly hunt one and kill it with a blade of grass
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Female 109
what a complete waste of ten million dollars.
even if it does work...havent these nerds seen jurassic park?
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Male 2,553
out of a hairball.. lmao
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Male 2,582
Why? Can we eat them?
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Male 500
Whats the chances of the mammoth having the same epigenetics as a modern elephant? Moreover, DNA binding proteins, DNA methylation, miRNA siRNA will all have degraded shortly after death. Just one essential house-keeping gene being broken or degraded will render the project a fatal failure, just one mutated tumour supressor may yield uncontrolled cancer, ionisation by millenia of cosmic rays, free radicals and background radiation will have mutated sequences to pieces, have the genes got telomeres? Will the calf be born middle aged and die like Dolly did due to old damaged DNA and short telomeres? All these things have to be overcome, and we don`t have the answers yet. Don`t give me that "Greatest minds" rubbish, these people are after funding to overcome these problems pure and simple, and if they ever do it, it wont be in your lifetime. Believe if you feel you need to.

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Male 592
Cloning a Wooly Mammoth? Easy, just get your mom to screw herself.
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Female 751
wow...just wow
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Male 1,232
Can`t wait.
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Male 17
I personally think this is going to be awesome. Can clones make babies? Or are they sterile?
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Male 105
Man, I can`t believe how everyone is going on about how it wont survive and whatever. People, these are some of the worlds greatest minds at work here, don`t you think they would have taken precautions, made plans, do you honestly just think they said "Oh, lets clone a woolly mammoth and see how it survives in these conditions!"?
No... They will make environments with the right conditions, they will isolate it and make sure it is safe to be near...
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Female 57
and on cloning neanderthals(cant remember spelling) NO! not becuase im religouse or anything rediculous like that. but the same points as the wooly mammoth come up, why? diseases we may not be able to fight or control, possible planet of the apes scenario...


I see some kind of zombie... thing happening. DONT DO IT!!!!! Oh dear god, dont do it.:-/

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Male 503
i really think its pointless to continue with this project. the technology is their, and we know we can do it now. why clone it? you gonna sell it to a zoo? we cant just let these wooly mammoth`s roam around. im sure it could survive o earth as it is now, even tho it was designed for harsh cold. but it could destroy eco systems, and this thing could even have some imborn disease that could spread to humans, we dont know. there really is no pro to cloning a mammoth aside from being able to say that you did..

and on cloning neanderthals(cant remember spelling) NO! not becuase im religouse or anything rediculous like that. but the same points as the wooly mammoth come up, why? diseases we may not be able to fight or control, possible planet of the apes scenario...

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Male 446
Cuz... He`s part ELEPHANT, part KANGAREE... oh whoops!... ROO! I for one welcome the Wuzzles into the animal kingdom.
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Female 4,447
I was discussing this with my husband and our friends over dinner and we came to the conclusion that even if they did manage to successfully clone a woolly mammoth, it wouldn`t survive. The climate required for such an animal to survive hardly exists anymore. Not to mention life on this planet was drastically different back then. Other animals have had time to adapt to the changes.
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Male 7,933
Ah, yes, 10 million to basically bring Mamooths back.

I bet they can`t bring back Pauly Shores career

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Male 231
wait so elephants lay eggs?


(yes that was a joke)

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Male 2,313
"Also , how come most religious folk dont get upset over animal cloning yet get so angry over a human being cloned? God created animals too according to you, and if playing god is illegal how is it a higher crime to clone huamans as opposed to animals?"

For the record, I think cloning, stem cell research and any other medical sciences that could potentially save or improve lives should be followed to their fullest. Cloning a human just to say you did it seems kind of pointless, but I still don`t think it is against my faith.

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Male 1,815
Bring back the Tazmanian Tiger!!
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Male 778
Lionheart: "...we have almost wiped out 90% of the species on earth..."

what? No we haven`t check your facts. What you`re thinking of is that "90% if the creatures that have existed on Earth are now extinct." we aren`t even to blame for 1% of those extinctions.

Which i think is funny you bring that fact up- As if you dont believe in evolution and that as religion says the world is only a few thousand years old... how`d all those species get into the ground :P


But interesting article never the less, I`d heard about this a while back when the Siberian mammoth was found with a bunch of skin and hair on it and a Japanese genetics corp bought it and planned to clone it.

Also , how come most religious folk dont get upset over animal cloning yet get so angry over a human being cloned? God created animals too according to you, and if playing god is illegal how is it a higher crime to clone huamans as opposed to animals? Ah well- just a random thought.

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Male 2,313
Ha ha ha, good call there Lion.
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Male 8,302
> Mjustin
> We share a common ancestor... with Chimpanzees

Speak for yourself, Monkey Boy... Adam was my great-grandpappy.

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Male 339
wow
craziness
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Female 741
I would only want one to lay on. Like my own little pet mammoth.

soo warm

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Male 473
hey i added that one!
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Male 335
@ Mantistador - Neanderthals aren`t actually our ancestors; they were a separate branch from the species Homo Erectus. We share a common ancestor with them just as we share a common ancestor (albeit further back) with Chimpanzees.
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Male 8,302
This is so stoopid on so many levels, we have almost wiped out 90% of the species on earth, and elephants are in no immediate danger, so why not bring back a Tasmanian Tiger or dodo or something? And picture this, an angry charging elephant is one of the scariest things on the planet... now turn that mental picture into a charging long-tusked mammoth that makes the elephant look like a baby... then add a 10,000-year ice-cream headache because the DNA comes from a glacier... not a happy camper.
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Male 2,199
Neanderthals? so if the whole evolution theory is true, that would mean we would have an older generation of us... kind of like going back in time and taking someone with us... i smell a rip reality...
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Male 115
I think bringing them back would be cool if they were kept in zoos. I am against wild mammoths. They had there chance and the failed. If they were kept in zoos and studied for science and what ever sure they can be created. The only thing I am worried about would be neanderthals. They might be just a level below our intelligence so if the neanderthal proved that it could work in our society I would let it have human rights and be independent not treat it like another animal.
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Male 128
Tooo much to read. But I don`t really like the idea. But aside from that, ya I think it would be cool until they started to kill us.
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Male 476
why would u even want that?

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Male 1,347
yeah but bringing em back doesn`t negate survival of teh fittest, was meant to happen if it happens, no?
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Male 1,011
Why bring back an extinct species? I have no moral objections to it, its just that, well, they went extinct, they deserve to stay dead. Survival of the fittest!

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Male 178
no lie, the main thing i would want from this is a mammoth burger, it would be just like OLD times
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Male 2,422
Awesome. I can`t wait for the first annual mammoth hunt since the end of the last ice age. It should be a holiday.
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Male 1,072
Sunday, November 30, 2008 1:03:49 PM
hmm...surley this is like messing with a time machine.....in a way....or maybe im just being stupid...again...but surley the mammoths will eat some kind of animal, usally eaten by another animal, which will have a knock on effect, lowering/increacing the numbers of some other animal.

I doubt one would make any difference

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Female 15,763
Oh god, Jurassic park!

So if giraffes ever go extinct, I won`t have to off myself. Cool!

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Female 390
Mammoths are clearly vegetarians ¬_¬ do you know nothing?
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Female 1,186
Um, have we learned nothing from Jurassic Park?
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Male 422
hmm...surley this is like messing with a time machine.....in a way....or maybe im just being stupid...again...but surley the mammoths will eat some kind of animal, usally eaten by another animal, which will have a knock on effect, lowering/increacing the numbers of some other animal.
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Male 112
No Mammoths Kick Dinosaur Ass,
But Really I Will Not Be Satisfied Until I See Giant Moths And Pray Mantises, Like Mothra Or Something.
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Male 2,313
Can I place a pre-order on one?
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Male 1,765
Oooh, this is gonna end badly. Still, do it.
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Male 1,598
This is gonna be just like Jurassic Park! Except mammoths aren`t as cool as dinosaurs.
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Male 868
I see no problems with this, bring on the Mammoths!
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Male 3,819
This is amazing.

Just don`t do dinosaurs...

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Female 214
its seems rather inhumane to clone an animal from a completely different climate with physiology that we know nothing about. granted, it would be a pretty cool scientific accomplishment
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Male 112
@SilverThread, I fully agree although its price will at least stop any abuse. But after it becomes cheap any country with enough money can get a custom army.
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Male 3,255
@SilverThread

It`s not a bad idea, it`s the only idea we should really care about. All of this poo is what will eventually lead us to immortality.

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Male 3,255
This is why I fear death. I want to still be here to see all the amazing things that science is gonna do.
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Male 3,431
Ironic that the doctor advocating Cloning Neanderthals is named "Church", and I say Hell No. It`s a Bad Goddamn Idea, for the same reason it was a Bad Idea for Albert Einstein to Teach the rest of us Simple minded Apes how Nuclear Fission could be used. We as a race are just too ignorant to use this knowledge safely and judiciously. Hell I doubt the majority of us could even guess what "Safe and Judicious" Use of cloning technology might resemble.
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Male 324
i wonder what would happen if i put the cryogenically frozen brain of hitler into a velociraptor
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Female 85
Soon, we will have baby mammoths to purchase at the pet store :)
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Male 3,014
@LoofahBoy: Have you tried an elephant burger yet?
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Male 460
you know i can think of so many better things to spend 10 million dollars on, although this is pretty cool too but not very usefull. unless they ressurect neandrathals and wolly mammoths then we can watch the fun begin!
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Male 94
"Yay. Clone a wooly mammoth just in time for climate change. What a great idea, because there certainly aren`t other scientific and/or social issues that we could better spend our money on. "
You obviously didn`t read the entire thing...
"Asked if the mammoth project might indeed happen, Dr. Church said that “there is some enthusiasm for it,” although making zoos better did not outrank fixing the energy crisis on his priority list."
Of course fixing other more pressing matters are higher on scientists minds, yet progress is progress, this moving forward in the area of reconstructing genomes of extinct species...vital information for when the aliens invade. But really this is epic.
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Male 3,301
I can`t wait to eat one.

I`m not kidding. I`m just holding out for someone to kill it and put it in a hamburger.

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Male 266
Why is the first thing that came into my head Jurassic Park?
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Male 12,138
But wait- my Young Earth Creationist friends will say that the mammoths are extinct because they didn`t make it to Noah`s big wooden boat in time. Thus it`s God`s will that they went extinct. Surely we can`t go against God`s will by bringing them back?

*headthef*ckingdesk*

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Male 3,014
"AHAHAHAHAHA
"...as little as 10 million."
Oh yes, because that`s just chump change right?"

It is chump change. One would expect something this groundbreaking to cost at least $500 million.

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Male 356
Yay. Clone a wooly mammoth just in time for climate change. What a great idea, because there certainly aren`t other scientific and/or social issues that we could better spend our money on.
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Female 1,984
"“The big issue would be whether enough people felt that a chimp-Neanderthal hybrid would be acceptable"

Hm... chimp-Neanderthals hybrids... interesting.

Have these scientists been watching too many Neanderthal commercials and want them to live among us? O_o

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Female 26
would the animal still be fertile and could we bread it with an elephant
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Male 4,745
If you could revive a species that went extinct a month ago, would that be alright? How many years does a creature have to be extinct before it becomes wrong to revive the species?

Now, Neanderthals on the other hand...

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Female 1,516
Screw a life size Wooly Mammoth, I want a pocket sized elephant as a pet.
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Male 28
i do not feel like reading that much at 9 in the morning
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Male 436
AHAHAHAHAHA
"...as little as 10 million."

Oh yes, because that`s just chump change right?

But... this is drating awesome anyway.

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Male 203
Cue ethical debate and poor puns. Tusk tusk.
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Male 473
Link: Cloning A Wooly Mammoth - Are We That Close? [Rate Link] - Scientists are on the verge of being able to clone extinct mammoths. I want one!
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