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Date: 11/10/08 12:22 AM

100 Responses to A Soldier`s Welcome Home Decorations Removed

  1. Profile photo of StrangeLil1
    StrangeLil1 Female 18-29
    85 posts
    November 9, 2008 at 9:14 pm
    Link: A Soldier`s Welcome Home Decorations Removed - Family forced to remove decorations welcoming home their daughter from Iraq because it could be offensive. Guess where?
  2. Profile photo of Lionhart2
    Lionhart2 Male 40-49
    8306 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 12:29 am
    That`s so lame, in this country a man`s home is HIS castle and the neighbours can`t do a thing about it as long as he`s own his own land. Then again, these signs weren`t, but c`mon, where`s your patriotism? Support or oppose the War, at least respect those who served still!
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    opiebreath Female 18-29
    15774 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 12:30 am
    Haha, Floooorida.

    Of course.

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    vintagepizza Female 13-17
    447 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 12:32 am
    That`s so weird.
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    kamietsu Male 18-29
    427 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 12:34 am
    stupid, *head desk*
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    LoofahBoy Male 18-29
    3301 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 12:36 am
    I wonder what would happen if Florida and California went to war?
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    AnwarNova Male 18-29
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    November 10, 2008 at 12:39 am
    Sad? Yes.

    State-that-looks-like-a-drooping-penis, also called Florida?
    Yes.

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    AnwarNova Male 18-29
    2076 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 12:41 am
    uh loofah, I don`t wonder. California would pwn big time. Think about it. We have the gangs in so-cal, surfers from so-cal, the farmers, the hippies, the silicon valley geeks, hollywood actors, I mean..we would kick big butt.
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    peloos12 Male 18-29
    3822 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 12:41 am
    I don`t understand...if somebody`s offended by the war...shouldn`t they be happy to see someone come home?


    and Loofah:

    You don`t wanna go to war with anything run by Schwarzenegger.

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    Aus10816 Male 18-29
    639 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 12:43 am
    what arseholes...
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    snoopdawgg Male 18-29
    481 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 12:51 am
    I don`t support the war at all, but even I think those people who took the signs off were non-nice individuals.
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    snoopdawgg Male 18-29
    481 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 12:52 am
    *a55holes
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    aussieguy29 Male 18-29
    420 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 12:55 am
    i still dont know where it was? where is Pace Island for us lucky non-americans?
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    Willowpuff Female 18-29
    2220 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 12:56 am
    Ridiculous.
  15. Profile photo of duckinfuh
    duckinfuh Male 18-29
    891 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 12:57 am
    before reading: florida?
  16. Profile photo of Hungwell
    Hungwell Male 18-29
    410 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 1:03 am
    Mmmmmmmmmmm....forced to remove decorations for a soldier`s welcome home party. I would tell those people to suck my limp **** till it`s hard enough to leave a stamp on their cheek. In those exact words..no more...no less.
  17. Profile photo of duckinfuh
    duckinfuh Male 18-29
    891 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 1:05 am
    after reading: go figure.

    i hate homeowner`s associations. they never accomplish anything good. never.

    that moron that said that the flags could be viewed as showing support for the war needs to be bitch smacked. even IF that`s what they were there for, allow me to point you in the direction of the first amendment.

    urge to kill...rising...

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    Lauraly Female 18-29
    2259 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 1:11 am
    How do signs welcoming home someone from the war show support for said war? They`re showing love and support for the soldier, not the war itself. Taking down the signs was just insensitive and disrespectful.
  19. Profile photo of Zieveraar
    Zieveraar Male 30-39
    415 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 1:14 am
    poo happens, if all it took was for that family to make one phone call in advance, then it`s their own fault.
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    Iroj Female 18-29
    960 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 1:18 am
    I am definitely not for the war, but I respect soldiers doing their jobs. That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. I wonder who was low enough to call in and complain about it?
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    Zerocyde Male 18-29
    3256 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 2:24 am
    Are homeowners associations mandatory?
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    Lauraly Female 18-29
    2259 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 2:42 am
    It depends on where you live... generally condos or gated communities. I think it`s because they contract yard work and such... and to keep a "higher standard" of living or something.
  23. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
    4548 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 2:48 am
    Zieveraar:
    *Knock knock knock*
    "Hello?"
    "Hi, I`m here to anally rape you"
    "What?! Why?!"
    "Well, you didn`t ask for prior permission to have a red doorbell installed. As you can see, most people here have either white, gold or silver"
    "But the Robsons have a green one!"
    "The Robsons called prior to have it approved"
    "Oh for a second there I thought it was entirely unfair and that I was being victimized by arbitrary application of rules. One moment, I`ll go get the lube"

    Summary: Do you really think this is something that needed approval. Do you really think this is something that SHOULD be anticipated as needing approval?

    I don`t call up every government office, my workplace, my family, and my home owner`s association to change my shoes, because it`s reasonable that I shouldn`t have to. Like the case in point.

  24. Profile photo of buttersrules
    buttersrules Male 40-49
    398 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 2:57 am
    Well, at least she didn`t get spat on (or worse) when she got back. Thats what happened to me...
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    davymid Male 30-39
    12140 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 3:40 am
    Wow, a post referencing the Iraq war and not a flame in sight... This must be a first.

    And yeah, like others have said: I`m as anti-war as they come, but this is a steaming bucket of horsewank. It`s a homecoming party for a family member returning safely from a frickin war zone, geth the f*ck over it! Hell, if I was their neighbour I`d be bringing round a bottle of Champagne, a handshake/hug, and a "welcome home". Sheesh.

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    quaintness Male 13-17
    1086 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 3:48 am
    It be de bureaukrazy mon
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    robrobrob125 Male 13-17
    118 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 3:51 am
    Seriously?
  28. Profile photo of IceAgeComing
    IceAgeComing Male 18-29
    24 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 4:47 am
    Christ, did a robot write that article?
  29. Profile photo of Rheaonon
    Rheaonon Male 18-29
    363 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 5:10 am
    wow, all you people against the war, these people are fighting for your freedom to be against the war, you could at least respect them. the person that removed the signs and the person that complained need to both be shipped to iraq with the soldiers, see if they dont feel differently about the war after a week or so there. without our armed forces, america would be nothing, they fight for the freedoms that allow you to not be sent to iraq.
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    afcop724 Male 18-29
    44 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 5:32 am
    I had some similar stuff happen when I got back. Pretty much, just leave us alone. Don`t get in my face about being a babykiller and don`t try to parade me around town like some hero. Let us be.
  31. Profile photo of davymid
    davymid Male 30-39
    12140 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 5:36 am
    vv "Wow, a post referencing the Iraq war and not a flame in sight... This must be a first."

    Damn, scratch that.

    Rheaonon, did you seriously just make an account to try to start a flame war where we`re every single one of us agreeing here?

  32. Profile photo of Breytac
    Breytac Male 30-39
    5 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 5:48 am
    What a load of bollocks. I think the president of the Home Owners Association and the complaining resident need to be sent to Iraq for a few weeks. They might change their attitude once they see what the men and women of the Coalition forces are going through. Remember, it`s not just Americans fighting in Iraq, it`s our Aussie men and women over there as well.
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    davymid Male 30-39
    12140 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 5:51 am
    vv Two new accounts on one day? Wowzers. Welcome to I-A-B guys.
  34. Profile photo of almightybob1
    almightybob1 Male 18-29
    4290 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 5:59 am
    That is ridiculous. Would saying "Congratulations on not dying of cancer Kylie Minogue" mean I suddenly love her music? Of course not.

    I can still think her music is piss-poor but want her to survive, just like I can think the war is BS but want the soldiers to all be safe. These neighbours are morons.

    And lol @ the trolls, poor effort.

  35. Profile photo of Nytewulf
    Nytewulf Male 30-39
    513 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 6:02 am
    That`s ridiculous. Leave the decorations up. Plus that had to be the most poorly written news article I`ve ever read. Basically just "he said this" and "she said that", like it was written by a 10 year old.
  36. Profile photo of davymid
    davymid Male 30-39
    12140 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 6:06 am
    vv "Plus that had to be the most poorly written news article I`ve ever read. Basically just "he said this" and "she said that", like it was written by a 10 year old."

    Nytewolf, I hear you brother. In fact it`s even worse than that, at least a 10 year old has some concept of past and present tense: read the article again, it`s actually more like "he says this" and "she says that". No excuse for that sh*t.

  37. Profile photo of BoomBox
    BoomBox Male 13-17
    1232 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 6:11 am
    Wow.
  38. Profile photo of Lockon
    Lockon Male 18-29
    376 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 6:13 am
    I`m hating political correctness a little more every day.
  39. Profile photo of Robert_D
    Robert_D Male 18-29
    589 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 6:21 am
    Longtime reader, I was so outraged by this story that I finally decided to register. Come on IAB, let`s show them what we think. Here are the e-mail addresses of the Board of Directors. Let them know how wrong you think they were.

    www.thetrace.org/BOD.html

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    davymid Male 30-39
    12140 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 6:24 am
    They just keep coming! Robert, Happy Finally-Made-An-Account Day. And I like the way you think my man...

    *prepares spam/hatemail onslaught*

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    drogue Male 40-49
    231 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 6:56 am
    All this jackassery from a reaction to a site called "firstcoastnews.com?"

    Geez, guys, pick your battles.

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    buttersrules Male 40-49
    398 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 7:08 am
    Sorry Davy....I know you wanted a flame free post for a change.....
    Rheanon. You`re a d*ckhead. Seriously. I think you need to grow up a bit, mate. I haven`t read any posts from the anti-war people here that are disrespectful to the soldiers themselves. Others have already posted on the difference between being against the war, and against the soldiers, so I won`t even elaborate further on that. As a returned soldier, do you know what pisses me off more than war protesters? 18 year old snots that mouth off a lot of BS about how people would change their minds if they spent time over there, when they haven`t got a clue themselves. When are you enlisting, buddy?
  43. Profile photo of Dakkar
    Dakkar Male 18-29
    1256 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 7:15 am
    Homeowners associations can be really terrible places to live. I`ve heard a couple of horror stories so I`ll try my best to avoid them.

    I think of them as cute little microcosms of the bureaucratic mess of government.

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    Genocyde Male 30-39
    712 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 7:27 am
    I`d have had backup signs...then I`d have posted those and sat outside with a shotgun.

    Guess who`s name is on the deed and guess whose ass is going to get shot for trespassing.

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    davymid Male 30-39
    12140 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 7:32 am
    vv "Sorry Davy....I know you wanted a flame free post for a change....."

    Not at all, Butters, I enjoy a good flame-war as much as anyone, I just thought it was remarkable... Anyways, Rheaonon stepped right out there and asked for it- I say flame away!

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    xiquiripat Male 18-29
    2422 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 7:53 am
    Whoa what a bunch of dicks. I hope no one decides to spit on my brother when he gets back.
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    keg74 Male 30-39
    411 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 8:11 am
    What an absolute load of crap. The HOA manager that made that call should be fired. Honestly people lets apply a little common sense in situation s like these.
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    Sigon Male 18-29
    129 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 8:14 am
    I`d have told the Home owners association to kiss my Shiney metal ass
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    patthebaker Male 18-29
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    November 10, 2008 at 8:56 am
    Well she looked like she was still in good spirits thats the important thing.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    November 10, 2008 at 8:57 am
    I`m with the home owners association. many people move into these neighborhoods because of the rules. they don`t want construction vans, huge flagpoles or crosses planted in their neighbors yards. if they didn`t want to live with the rules they shouldn`t have moved there.
  51. Profile photo of almightybob1
    almightybob1 Male 18-29
    4290 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 9:05 am
    "if they didn`t want to live with the rules they shouldn`t have moved there."


    From the article -
    They say in the past the association had ignored other signs.

    "There have been signs for birthdays and parties and they`ve never taken them down," says Dyan Boitet.

    So either the rules are not enforced too strictly or it`s not in the rules at all.
    And even if it is in the rules, a soldier returning from duty should be an exception, at least for a few hours.

  52. Profile photo of madest
    madest Male 40-49
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    November 10, 2008 at 9:06 am
    more people who think the rules don`t apply to them.
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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    November 10, 2008 at 9:07 am
    That dratn` HOA manager should be hanged for treason.

    Flame on...

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    green_btrfly Female 18-29
    751 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 9:08 am
    I`d let the soldier coming home kick their ass, get out some of the emotional buildup from the pstd out of their system. and all I have to say to the HOA manager, is way to be patriotic dumbass.
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    Quackor Male 18-29
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    November 10, 2008 at 9:16 am
    sounds like these people wanted to break the rules
  56. Profile photo of domisgood
    domisgood Male 18-29
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    November 10, 2008 at 9:27 am
    c`mon thats just lame

    "more people who think the rules don`t apply to them."

    yh coz if ur mum/sister/cousin had been in Iraq for 15 months u wouldn`t want to welcome her home

  57. Profile photo of Donut017
    Donut017 Male 18-29
    82 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 9:49 am
    Of course flordia.....omg someone get me out of here
    plz i beg of u have a heart SAVE ME!!!!!!
  58. Profile photo of madest
    madest Male 40-49
    7378 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 10:00 am
    it is possible to have a welcome home party without breaking the home association rules you agreed to abide by when you bought your home.
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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    November 10, 2008 at 10:26 am
    "it is possible to have a welcome home party without breaking the home association rules you agreed to abide by when you bought your home."

    That is true, it is absolutely possible. Although I think if you are going to let some rules slide and then not others then you are being biased. Rules are there to begin with and if the HOA manager had stuck to his guns with every rule and did not allow any of thenm to be broken, then I suppose there would not be an issue.

    Whether he is being biased or not, it sure does seem that he is. And this is where he screwed up. There is a huge difference between painting your house hotpink and letting your yard become overgrown... to putting up a few signs to welcome home one of our brave young warriors who was willing to make the ultimate sacrifice.

    So I say again... hang em`

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    Mindless2164 Male 18-29
    499 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 10:29 am
    ...Yes.. of course. They were supporting the war, exactly.. Good job, Sherlocks! Why not just as well put the whole family behind bars while you`re at it?
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    whtevr Female 40-49
    914 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 11:00 am
    I live near there and was so pissed when I saw that on the news. It`s a military town too which makes it worse. Stupid a$$hole neighbors--they suck!
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    freddyferret Male 40-49
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    November 10, 2008 at 11:03 am
    Just another reason I`ll never move to Florida. There are a lot of seriously effed up people there.
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    Gomay Male 13-17
    690 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 11:04 am
    friggin hippies, complaining about the signs because they don`t support the war.
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    Codmily Female 18-29
    360 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 11:04 am
    It`s retarded that they had to take them down because they could be viewed as supporting the war. Who gives a crap if someone supports the war? This IS a free country and although there are many people who don`t support it, there are some who do.

    I`ve seen plenty of bumper stickers that are clearly AGAINST the war, so why couldn`t someone put stuff up that is in support of it?
    And that`s not even the point they were welcoming their daughter home after being gone for 15 months. That`s way more important than any birthday.

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    AahNold Male 30-39
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    November 10, 2008 at 11:34 am
    "That dratn` HOA manager should be hanged for treason"

    I agree, maybe a public stoning would work too

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    Devonish Male 30-39
    7 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 11:35 am
    That sort of poo usually happens here in the UK, Service personnel have been stopped from wearing uniform in public in some areas due to the abuse they get :(
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    Nidonemo Male 18-29
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    November 10, 2008 at 11:37 am
    Welcome home is now considered supportive to war, so we must now all say "Happy return to domicile beloved family member."

    Be politically correct, it`s the law. (Insert angry cop from Half life here)

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    GEoDLeto Male 30-39
    242 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 11:45 am
    "Happy return to domicile beloved family member."

    Might be offensive to the idiots overthere, they might read imbecile in stead of domicile and seeing that most of them are just that, a lot of offense would be taken.

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    WhenIsLunch Male 18-29
    460 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 11:47 am
    whatever happened to freedom of speech? this country is full of idiots (not saying everyone jus the usual idiots who show up in cases like this) the sign isnt even political! how much discomfort could that cause u! ...jackass
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    Chiburashka Male 18-29
    292 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 11:51 am
    I have yet to hear of a homeowner`s association doing anything but but being deliberately irritating, but this is really bad.
  71. Profile photo of Sorax3
    Sorax3 Male 13-17
    142 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 12:16 pm
    tsk tsk tsk again Orange County, FL. So how many articles are we up to for this county?
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    iambluebeard Male 30-39
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    November 10, 2008 at 12:20 pm
    i used to live near there.... that`s why i moved, lol.
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    Poreka Female 13-17
    710 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 12:46 pm
    I don`t understand how that could be offensive.
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    stumped4ever Male 13-17
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    November 10, 2008 at 1:05 pm
    i blame america.. jk. but seriously, how do people get offended so easily? if you dont like to look at it, then don`t drating look at it
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    CaptainPat Male 18-29
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    November 10, 2008 at 1:12 pm
    every time it says guess where its flordia, so let me guess, flordia?
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    N-Vet Male 30-39
    105 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 1:17 pm
    "They removed the welcome home signs and balloons and flags," says Natalie Boitet.

    Boitet says when they tried to recover the signs it turned into a confrontation with the association manager. - Article

    It looks like the HOA didn`t even ask for the signs to be removed, it sounds like they confiscated them while the family was setting up somewhere else...

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    michaelcsr Male 40-49
    559 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 1:17 pm
    As an American, it really pisses me off how pussified America has become. We get offended by everything nowadays. Get over it, your feelings aren`t that important. HOA`s in my mind are unconstitutional. I don`t think ANYONE has a right to tell you what you can do land that you own. If you`re not hurting anyone then people need to mind their own business. Lastly, I don`t support this stupid war, but I see nothing offensive about a family welcoming home a daughter they are rightfully proud of. Screw your property values. You won`t lose a dime of value by someone next door putting up a picture of their child who is coming home from war!
  78. Profile photo of madest
    madest Male 40-49
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    November 10, 2008 at 1:22 pm
    Look if you want to live in a neighborhood that dictates how you live then by all means move there. If you do however, you lose your right to b*tch and moan when you break the rules. Imho, i think everyone who lives in a HOA community is a douchebag. this family included.
  79. Profile photo of Kamarov
    Kamarov Male 18-29
    91 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 1:27 pm
    This pisses me off worse than Westboro Baptist. How dare they dishonor an American Soldier.
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    neveryours Female 13-17
    1269 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 1:28 pm
    "flordia" CaptainPat?
    twice?
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    yoimmylene Female 13-17
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    November 10, 2008 at 1:41 pm
    All right, who`s the jerk that went and reported them?
  82. Profile photo of sam8380
    sam8380 Male 18-29
    55 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 1:42 pm
    when it said guess where, i assumed england.....soldiers are treated with disrespect here. liberals are happy to put gas in their tanks, yet get squeamish at the ugly reality of how it really gets there...
  83. Profile photo of maceizballin
    maceizballin Male 13-17
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    November 10, 2008 at 1:50 pm
    oh no! those signs make me feel as though this neighborhood supports the war...im SO offended!
  84. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    November 10, 2008 at 1:52 pm
    "Liberals are happy to put gas in their tanks, but squeamish about how it gets there"

    From one of the many many many countries you`re allied with through trade agreements.... Oh God I can`t handle it, I`m going to be sick.

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    Slade8 Male 18-29
    951 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 2:06 pm
    WhenIsLunch: this is what happened to freedom of speech. Someone goes to a police officer and says "Hey there! I have half a ton of explosives wired in that nearby orphanage and I am planning to detonate in 30 minutes. Have a nice day!"
    Everything has restrictions. This shouldn`t.
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    sfcg Male 30-39
    796 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 2:09 pm
    Okay, I`m about a liberal as it gets and I find this pretty wrong. There must have been some underlying issue between the HOA guy that took it down and the family that`s not being reported here, because that guys deserves to get punched in the throat if he just went ahead and took them down for HOA policy reasons. Some people take themselves too seriously.
    As far as the ugly reality of how gas gets in our tanks, we should pay for it if we don`t have it, not completely f**k the world up by taking it by force. I think a certain IQ should be required to use the internets.

    Also some HOA communities are not giant conglomorate cookie cutter suburbs. Some HOA`s are two houses that happen to be connected. Generalizing only works with machine guns.

  87. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
    4548 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 2:12 pm
    Quick note:
    Iraq provides the world with ~2% of it`s oil.

    Long story short, the liberals are probably quite happy with putting 2% less oil in their cars if it means not having to invade a country for a billion pounds a year.

    Also, if everyone driving a 20MPG SUV traded it in for a 20.4MPG SUV we could have avoided this whole thing. that`s saying nothin of the occassional run of the mill SUVs that near almost 30MPG, or perhaps even... I dunno... taking the kids to school in a CAR and getting 40MPG.

    But obviously that`s not as reasonable a solution as invading a country killing a few thousand civilians, losing a few thousand troops, propping up new dictators and weakening your reputation worldwide as oil-hungry war-whores.

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    sam8380 Male 18-29
    55 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 2:32 pm
    nowadays we live a lifestyle that is unsustainable....we use thousands of litres of fuel a year, buy food in plastic packaging that we throw away, have all the lights on and the tv and the hair dryer....we use and use. and all these resources come from somewhere. it causes tension and war and ugly scenes. such is the way of the world. but to complain about wars and mistreatment from the comfort of your heated home in front of your tv and then go for a drive in your suv is to be a bit of a hypocrite. ever seen that video on youtube, `meet your meat`? similar concept in this case. people are in effect complaining about how the poor cows are killed whilst they eat their burgers. in reality, we all share some blame for whats happening in the world today, to absolve yourself of blame you`d have to turn your lights out and walk to work each day. if we really want to solve this problem we need to end our dependence on oil and the middle east will shrink into insignificance.
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    Pilanus Male 18-29
    675 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 2:59 pm
    I petition that whoever complained about that sign be sent to Iraq.

    I may not support the war, but Damn it, I support our troops, whom are risking their lives every day, regardless of the stupidity of the cause, they are still risking their lives. and to have some soulless prick think that welcoming one of them home is somehow "Political", infuriates me.

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    maguiremart Male 13-17
    34 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 3:02 pm
    just don`t put the flags up then. Problem solved.
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    boredfjord Male 13-17
    928 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 3:41 pm
    ...this is preposterous. How could anybody possibly be THAT anal?
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    FlameOfUdun Male 18-29
    1222 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 3:56 pm
    I got two brothers in the marines and one of them will be in Iraq. If somebody didn`t let me welcome him home, I would eat that person`s soul.
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    d_katman Male 13-17
    1836 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 4:09 pm
    does i-a-b hate orange park? haha

    we should have a compilation of all stories out of orange park.

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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
    2798 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 4:22 pm
    When did this convo turn into an argument on "an inconvenient truth"?

    By the way, those few of you that are actually trying to sound intelligent on oil consumption are way, way oversimplifying the whole issue. I love how someone says something on a forum with a certain finality to it and they put it to us like its the only argument to be had... and they are playing a game of I WIN.

    I used to be that turd...or am i still? hmmm

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    xFlashFirex Female 13-17
    78 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 7:47 pm
    You Floridians.
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    ricki24 Female 13-17
    244 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 8:53 pm
    That is just outright terrible. My father has been in Iraq for the past 7 months, he doesn`t come back for 5 more. I don`t understand how someone could be so anal as to take down welcome home signs? I would have made new ones....tacky ones....with glitter.
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    Lionhart2 Male 40-49
    8306 posts
    November 10, 2008 at 8:56 pm
    > Baalthazaq
    > Iraq provides the world with approx 2% of it`s oil

    I`m sure Davy could give us accurate figures since finding oil is his job, but this would tend to indicate you`re completely wrong:

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    SoCal Male 18-29
    650 posts
    November 11, 2008 at 10:05 pm
    WHAT DO YOU EXPECT?!?! Its a H.O.A. community. I live in a HOA community and they have towed my car for parking overnight, taken my trashcans for leaving them out overnight, and removed my christmast decorations.
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    Vagrant86 Male 18-29
    2556 posts
    November 12, 2008 at 8:58 am
    they should have called then..
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    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
    4548 posts
    November 22, 2008 at 10:25 pm
    Lionhart:
    Are you kidding?
    The middle east includes:
    Saudi Arabia: 14% of the world`s oil.
    Iran: 3% of the World`s Oil
    UAE: 3% of the World`s Oil
    Kuwait: 3% of the World`s Oil

    Or if we`re doing total proven reserves:
    Saudi: 20% world reserves.
    Iran: 10% world reserves.
    Kuwait: 8% of world reserves.
    UAE: 7% of world reserves.
    Not to mention the other 11 countries in the Middle East, or the other 10 on top of that in "Greater Middle East" if your graph includes that.


    Oil exports via the CIA. Iraq produces ~2% as stated earlier.

    Oil reserves via the CIA. Iraq admittedly contains ~8% of the world reserves.

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