Poll Says Candidates Race Not A Factor

Submitted by: opiebreath 8 years ago in
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/24/poll.race/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

Have we gone from racist to ageist now? Will there be roaming groups of 20-year-olds burning depends on people"s lawns?
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Male 254
Candidates race not a factor?....PLEASE!!!
just look at the post about howard stern when he took his ppl out to talk with the black ppl in new york. He took McCains ideals and put Obamas name on it and 9 out of 10 black ppl said they support that!!!!
They just voting for Obama because he`s black!!! You can`t tell me otherwise....and if that`s racist.....kiss my @ss!!!! go home!!!
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Male 1,046
" All the Socialist and Commie name calling is BS."
But isn`t calling someone a commie the great American comeback? "organised labour? You commie!". "Healthcare reform? You commie!" etc, etc....
Sometimes I think the 1950`s never ended....
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Male 196
I like how people use catchy phrases like "spead the wealth." Lets just call it what it is, having the top 5% pay their fair share. All the Socialist and Commie name calling is BS. Get a life.
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Male 2,553
D=
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Male 35
DuckBoy87 it does an "old fart" really good to see a young adult with their eyes open to reality and are able to articulate themselves well. I bet you have a great relationship with your parent(s) and do well in school too. YOU and those like you are the hope of the world. No matter how dark and gloomy things seem to be, with people like you there will always be some good in the world. Tell your parent(s) they are doing a fine job! And if I could I`d give you a pat on the back as well.
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Male 3,619
I would vote for a black American... if he/she had good ideas.

Obama doesn`t.

A good majority (not all) of black Americans want Obama`s "spread the wealth" communistic ideas, because they expect that the government, or anyone for that matter, will give them free stuff. They EXPECT it. That`s also not to say that some white trash aren`t like that, because some do, just not as many.

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Male 4,546
TX: They don`t have to add up to 100. There are undecided and independent voters.

Some quick pieces of information here:
Saying "race is a factor" does not neccessarily mean the same as "I`m a racist".

It could also include any factor in how they handle race. You might want to vote for Obama because he would be tougher on Racism. You might want to vote for McCain because you think it`s unfair 93% of Blacks are voting for him. (I don`t know if that stat is true).

Overall however: "The number of votes Obama may lose due to his race is roughly equal to the number who will vote for him because he is black. And both those numbers [are] just 1 percentage point"

Seems fairly accurate. The 7/10 figure is likely the result of what I just mentioned. Bear in mind however, Black candidates have always gotten lower votes than exit polls. Racists have a tendency to lie to pollsters.

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Male 334
Well excuse me for a math slip-up, I guess that discounts everything else I said
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Male 24
mrwnt, you get *your* facts straight. 60 + 30 does *not* equal 100.
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Male 1,046
And everyone knows that "spreading the wealth" is communism!! quick, get your torches and your pitchforks! Check that there`s not a Red hiding under your bed!
B-|
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Male 334
Ok, get the facts before you start ranting. John McCain released 10,000 pages of medical records, which indicated he was in great health and had no sign of cancer. He will live for 4 years.

Joe Biden, on the other hand, hasn`t released any records, and he had an aneurysm. Let`s see his records.

How can you vote for Obama knowing he wants to "spread the wealth"? That he wanted to abandon Iraqis to a living hell that we got them into? That he voted against protection for babies who survived abortions? That he supports late-term abortions? That he wants to raise the capital gains taxes (that means Wall Street) during what could be a recession? That he has consistently associated with the radical left, including voter-fraud group Acorn? That he believes he has a "righteous wind at his back"? That he sued Citibank for not giving loans to poor black people who couldn`t pay them back under the pretense that Citibank was being racist?

He should not be allowed anywher

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Male 813
Um, you DO know that when McCain kicks the bucket (which is any day now, honestly) Sarah Palin becomes president, right? A complete RETARD becomes president. How drating stupid do you have to be to vote for McCain knowing that?
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Male 5,620
"Race should never be more important than the issues"

To bad it is, for both sides.

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Male 334
sixclaws: Actually its around 93%, which is just ridiculous. It is not possible for such a large group of people, living in different cities, from different backgrounds, think nearly UNANIMOUSLY the same way. It just doesn`t happen.

Latinos have the immigration issue, and even they are only split about 60-30 in favor of democrats.

Race should never be more important than the issues, whether you are black or white.

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Male 772
@ Sixclaws

Which is why they don`t do convenience polling. While blocking the survey would show that it is a factor, a general sample of the population (which this is) wouldn`t show it.

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Male 2,313
90% of blacks voting for Obama are voting for him because he is black. So race is a pretty big issue this time.
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Male 772
@ Lionhart
`The CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll was conducted October 17-19, with 1,058 adult Americans questioned by telephone.`

I would hope that a major company as CNN would be smart enough to know that convenience surveys (or on-the-street surveys) are one of the worst ways of conducting a poll.

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Male 8,302
Besides anyone comes up to you with a poll in their hand and asks "Is race a factor in your decision?", they are basically asking you, in the street surrounded by people of all nationalities, with a camera in your face, "Are YOU a racist?" Who`s gonna give real answers in that situation?
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Male 108
"I think you meant 97% are for Obama.
That is a good point though. "

It`s not a good point. Blacks always vote Democrat. Clinton had over 90% of the black vote in America and his damn nickname is Bubba.

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Female 400
Okay tooostep... we`ll just have to wait and see because it looks like he`s going to win.

I can`t wait for people that say this are proved wrong.

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Male 35
If anyone believes CNN, then they are they same fools that believe McCain has a fair chance to win. Race will ALWAYS be a factor in peoples` lives, because thats how they are programed from birth with the aid of the major media. I can`t wait for King Obama to TAKE his throne, then everyone will know the REAL Obama! Just remember this- Adolf Hitler was a great orator and he was seen as the peoples saviour as well. So, the point is- words are cheap as sh$t! One last thing, McCain may be old and not a great speech giver,but he is tested, a man of his word and has served his country well for many years. What has Obama done for us? Oh yeh...he looks good and talks good..."Be carefull what you wish for..."
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Female 329
TGPZ
"Hmmm... According to ABC`s latest poll, 97% of blacks are voting for McCain, while whites are split 47/53. So to be honest, it seems McCain is the real victim of racism in this election. Funny, how the media keeps insisting it`s the other way around..."
I think you meant 97% are for Obama.
That is a good point though.
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Male 1,036
Polling for racism is pretty hard. Most people aren`t out in the open with their dislike of a certain minority.
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Female 400
When people said race is a factor they don`t say how it is effecting their vote. Some may say they can`t vote for a black candidate (which I`ve heard a lot from people ::shiver::) and some say they are voting because we`ve never had a black president before. Maybe they`re just canceling each other out?

Also, I don`t think it is racist for a black person to want to vote in this election because we have the chance to elect a black president. Many who don`t normally vote might be inspired and motivated to do so because this country is moving forward and past the race issue more than ever before.

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Male 10,440
Alright, while I may be glad that 7/10 believe its not a factor, this means that 3 out of 10 of you are not just plain old morons but rather the most detestable scum-of-the-earth imbeciles history has ever seen. You are like... orcs.
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Male 151
yes elkingo...you southern hicks are the minority now...

just sit back and watch Obama take this election...you canidate has shot himself in the foot one too many times

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Male 5,620
I thought CNN stood for the Clinton News Network?
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Male 5,620
70% of statistics are made up.
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Male 137
TGPZ, you have hit the nail square on the head!
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Male 367
No matter what they SAY race is still an important part of this election. Obama`s big slogan is "change" and what hasn`t changed at all since our first president? They are all White.
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Male 1,232
Poll: 7 out of 10 people lied about their answer.
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Male 166
Hmmm... According to ABC`s latest poll, 97% of blacks are voting for McCain, while whites are split 47/53. So to be honest, it seems McCain is the real victim of racism in this election. Funny, how the media keeps insisting it`s the other way around...
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Female 553
Oh, and I screwed up the perfect 4.0 rating.

You`re welcome. ;)

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Female 553
How many people, when called up by a pollster, blatantly admit they`re racist? Umm...the number is much lower.
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Male 3
Oh my god..

Dudes! Check the rating! It`s a perfect 4.0!!

The prophecy has come true!:-O

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Male 342
Thinking that polls don`t matter at all is about as stupid as thinking that polls are all that matters.

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Female 15,763
Wow Butters, that was... incredibly confusing and smart sounding.
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Male 1,046
A recent poll showed that 27% of people consider polls to be entirely innaccurate. 94% of those polled considered statistics to be much more important than polls, whilst out of these people, 3% complained that statistics can be manipulated to prove a point at least 97.683% of the time. 0.003% of people polled considered statistics to be entirely irrelevant, however 0.003% is such a small number, statistically, that it should be disregarded.
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Male 1,766
only 70 percent?
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Male 4,793
ok, not wanting an insanely old guy to be pres. isnt a bad idea...would ANYBODY want a 115 year old dude in office? (i know mccain isnt 115, just think about it though, when people get old...they start to get a wee bit crazy sometimes)
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Male 291
I think that they need to consider the Bradley Effect (for those of you who don`t know what this is , it is the idea that people tell the pollers that they will vote for Obama because they don`t want to seem racist)


P.S. I think everyone with Facebook should join the I am Bored group (search for I-Am-Bored.com)

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Male 561
Consider the source.
CNN=Crap Not News
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Male 533
vv Yep.
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Female 602
You never know... this may be off. Maybe some people are too embarrased to admit it. Maybe other`s just want to be obnoxious.

While we`re on the topic, isn`t Obama half (or some percentage) white?

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Female 4,376
I still want Obama to win O.o
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Male 342
One has to wonder how honest the respondents were, especially when asked about a touchy subject like racism...
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Male 50
Okay, so...30% say that race IS a major factor? Doesn`t sound much like ageism is going to be catching up soon.
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Male 254
*not worth the risk
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Male 254
the only reason age is a factor in this election is because of McCain`s vp. The average american life expectancy is 77.5 to 80 and its just not the risk of having President Alaska
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Female 15,763
Link: Poll Says Candidates Race Not A Factor [Rate Link] - Have we gone from racist to ageist now? Will there be roaming groups of 20-year-olds burning depends on people`s lawns?
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