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Ancillary Question: Why was the disabled guy kicking the kid anyway?
and nice punch btw
Also, I have 3 kids and I swear to god you hurt any one of them I`m putting your ass in hospital, I don`t give a poo who you are.
the way he kicked the kid kind of looked like half on purpose and half by accident. If that makes sence to anyone else
Natural selection really wouldn`t apply in this situation. I`m not entirely sure, but I think down syndrome is a mutation in a certain chromosome, and is not governed by a recessive gene. So, basically, you have about the same chance of having a child with down syndrome as would a couple who both had down syndrome.
Again, though, I based this all on hearsay (too lazy to research) so if I`m wrong then please someone point it out.
Other things seen here: Many very, very misguided ideas of what Downs syndrome is.
my sister got downs syndrom and i have meet allot of other kids and more grown people with Downs, its like they live in their own world that gets afflicted by things around.
ofc its not OK to kick a kid, its always a bad thing no mather what (well, not if mankind depended on you kicking a 6 year old) but the Downs man can`t be realy realy realy that much blamed.
as a parent i would do the same thing. but then feel bad for hitting a mentaly dissabled person that didn`t know bether.
I guarantee you almost any parent would have the same reaction. The guy probably didn`t know he had Down Syndrome.
If he doesn`t, he shouldn`t be out in public at all.
I would have totally knocked the motherfker out too. If you are conscience enough to think about kicking somebody under the age of 3 for scaring you then you are conscience enough to get knock`d the fuggout.
Stay home next time. This is why we don`t need caretakers, we need natural selection. =)
p.s. To people who are offended when somebody says the word retard. Get over it. Retard is to Bailout as Mentally ill is to Rescue Plan. It`s the same fking meaning lol.
If I were the toddler`s parent, I`d seriously think about suing her for negligence if I were arrested. If she had been doing her job it *might* not have happened.
I don`t care if he kicked lightly, if I where out with my nephew (no kids) and an adult stranger walked over and did what he did, I would have likely done the same thing.
I think that woman WAS his caregiver. Bang up job SHE`S doing... She completely ignored everything until the dad stepped up and did what a parent is supposed to do: PROTECT HIS CHILD.
Yeah. I`m all for what the dad did. He defended his son. Knocking out the guy, well, it was necessary force. What that dude did - whether mentally handicapped or not - is WRONG, it is VIOLENT ASSAULT and he should be arrested for it. The dad was defending, and thus did the right thing.
I would have done the same thing. I don`t care who you are; if you hit or kick one of my kids, I will retaliate and it will NOT be pretty.
Kudos, dad. You did right.
what dya mean "these ppl"?
and i see that at 40-49 you obviously cant comprehend the thought of having children to protect. but if u do have kids send me a vid of someone kicking them whilst you watch and smile.
I don`t think the Dad knew that he was retarded, if he did, he shouldn`t have decked him, he wasn`t hurt, and it was a tap. But, I can understand the punch first, talk later mentality, and would probably have the same reaction.
The person with the illness shouldn`t have kicked the kid, however, it`s not entirely his fault. If he is known for outbursts like that, where was his caregiver? Unless he`s highly functioning (and if he`s prone to violent outbursts, he`s not) he wouldn`t be alone anywhere. Not only that, but his caregiver would know about the problem and should have been there to defuse the situation before it started. There are signs that anyone who works with MR can identify as triggers to behaviors. I have one kid who always rocks when he`s about to squeal really loud. You can stop the end result before it happens.
I don`t think I`d feel bad about myself upon discovering that the man had special needs either. Maternal instincts.
Or maybe not everyone solves problems with violence and gets the facts first before getting to the breaking point. Some people are able to maintain a level head. I myself have never even hit anyone. ALmost got into a fight once though but thats a different story.
I`m no pacifist I assure you but I just don`t think it`s wise to jump to conclusions and act without thinking some through first.
And now I am going to hell..."
lol ^^.if i had kids, i`d attack anybody that attacked my kids, even if it were a mix between hellen keller and stephen hawking. (not sure how a blind/deaf/dumb/cripple could attack my kid, but you never know.)
And now I am going to hell...
Also i wouldn`t use the same reasoning if he seriously hurt someone. BUT he didn`t seriously hurt anyone. He lightly kicked a kid, how do you know that kid wasn`t giving him dogs abuse?? What do you do in that situation, sure you wouldn`t kick him but you may tell him to drat off, which could end up with the same result. I guess none of us know the whole story so we can`t comment properly really. But i can tell you now, the guy who hit him did use excessive force and would be in trouble.
That is completely wrong. Having a mental disability in no way gets you off the hook. In most cases they have to go to a minimum security prison that has a psych ward, so that they can recieve therapy. Its not like they get a lighter sentence, or even no sentence at all.. In some ways the sentence is worse, because if they are found out to be faking a mental illness, they are brought up on charges of purgury (sp?), and that is heftier than what the original court sentence would have been.
I am not a violent person, and I don`t think I could pack a punch. I fully commend the father on protecting his child though. You just don`t know what people are thinking, and you certainly don`t know if the kicker has any intention of further harming the kid.
In short: Dad was right. SOL for the Downs Syndrome kid.
Then maybe he shouldn`t be in that sitation (without better supervision).
Would you still be using that reasoning if he had seriously hurt someone, Lorodiam?
By the way, why do you say "coloured"? Do you think that stating someone`s skin colour is offensive, as if they should be ashamed of it, so you use the euphemism "coloured" instead?
The father walked in on his son being kicked, within 2 seconds he had hit the guy.
The entire event took about 6 or 7 seconds.
"The kid was making fun of him and then the father knowing the guy was disabled decided to himself hmm, what should I do, I mean yeah he kicked my kid, but he is handicapped..."
No! "WTF, dude kicked my kid" *Smack*
It wasn`t a thought through process.
Also to those people so liberally using the word retard. You are complete and utter scum. I have worked with people with down syndrome and they are great people. Your using that term in an abusive way, its no different from saying I am a racist! to a coloured person. Its bloody sickening.
It was a tap vs. a huge swing.Both were in the wrong, but a "Hey, what the hell?" to the downs guy would be appropriate.
The child was not seriously hurt. There are cops out there who can settle this. Press charges and make money. Buy your son a brand new PS3 and everybody`s happy.
poor dude >.<
Ah, that is the question...
Since a person with Down Syndrome is usually quite gentle and kind to others, I am fairly certain (also judging from the body language of everyone in the video) that he wasn`t trying to hurt the kid, rather, he just wanted to see what would happen if he kicked at the kid. Sadly, he found out. The punishment (the very strong punch in the face) certainly does not fit the crime (kicking at the kid so softly that the kid didn`t even budge) - the dad should be charged with assault and battery. Especially since a person with Down Syndrome is not considered an adult, legally, then it is like beating up a child because that child kicked your kid (not hard enough to hurt the kid) - imagine if this dad had beaten up a kid on the playground who was threatening his kid, oh wait, that happens ALL THE TIME! Just the other day, a dad tried to beat up a 13-year-old at a soccer game because the boy roughed up his kid during the g
B - You people saying the mentally disabled have the same responsibilities as the rest of us are being ignorant.
C - Ha ha, that was funny. Poor DS man though.
also, I have 2 little boys and I would take anyone`s head off for touching them, disability or not
You know those things that just tick you off instantly and make you go freaking wild?
Yeah, that`s probably one of those things.
I wish there was sound so I knew why that idiot tried to kick the kid. And also, I think that he missed the kid with his kick, if he had hit him then the kid prolly would have fallen over.
I would have probably ended up in jail for manslaughter, but seriously, nobody has the right to kick any of my (hypothetical) children.
And as someone mentioned, if he was mentally proficient enough to be talking on his cellphone, he`s intelligent enough to know that kicking random people isn`t something you do.
Actually, it works exactly like that if the justice system works correctly, kind of. If a person is insane or mentally disabled when he/she commits a crime, then he/she is not really responsible for her actions. What I don`t understand is that they are still locked up sometimes, which is just sad, because it wasn`t their fault.
On another note, how do you know that the man was talking to someone on the phone. I have a mentally disabled sister who talks on the phone to no one, because she enjoys it. This could be the same thing.
Without trying to be hostile, whoever holds the downs man 100% responsible for what he did needs to get out volunteer with mentally disabled people. Once you get a first-hand perspective, then you can make up your mind.
GROWN MAN taking a shot at his little boy
any way its not the fathers fault.... if someone kicked my little kid i would kick there ass immediately
he probably didnt even notice this man was retarded
Idk what I`d do honestly... my first reaction would be to protect my child... so idk.
Not to mention, the kid had apparently just walked in the store, meaning the father likely just saw some random man walk up and kick his child. I`d be pretty ready to knock someone out after that myself.
However, I do have to say this... If a fully grown man can`t control his actions, be it due to mental disability or whatever, maybe he shouldn`t be allowed the full freedoms of the rest of society.
If that guy had kicked any harder, it could have seriously jurt the kid. Not to mention, look where he aimed...
It`s people who jump to conclusions like that who throw around the word "retard," a horrible horrible word not unlike "I am a racist!."
As a parent, I can say without a doubt I would not have punched the disabled man. I would even go further to say that if you are one of those who thinks the disabled man got what he deserves, neither you or your offspring are going to find much success in this world.
definately not the full charge.
plus this downs guy might not know whether or not what hes doing is bad at the time of doing it etc. i mean id prolly shout angrilly at the guy and get close to hitting him but id feel bad afterwards for sure
I hate little kids too.
I love how its 33%... i find it quite adorable that you know the exact amount of time you spend with them xD
LMAO - its "carte blanche" - from the French for "white paper" - the military term for surrender, originally "charte blanche". The idea of sending a piece of white paper to your conqueror is that he can write his own terms on it, ie he has free reign to demand whatever he likes from you.
I wouldn`t have punched the guy but I would have firmly told him that what he did wasn`t nice and he should apologize.. And I only say this because I have been friends with people who have had far worse than down syndrome and it truly isn`t their fault. They just excite and anger easily.
For punching him, the guy just walked in (it looked like) and he might not have known the guy was disabled and it could have just been a reaction, I mean hey, its his son.
For not punching him, it was a little unnecessary to hit him because he barley kicked the kid, at least give the guy a warning and see why he did it before just straight up KO`ing him
In conclusion, I am not taking either side
If it was my kid,I would have gone apesh*t too,then be like,"whoa...darn,he`s disable..f*ck" But I would still be pissed,but less and in an non physical way
seriously that kid looks so adorable skipping in,all carefree...like who wouldn`t freak out if you got kick in the nads