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Date: 10/13/08 10:45 PM

74 Responses to Jesus the Magician`s Bowl is Found

  1. Profile photo of Pooptart19
    Pooptart19 Male 18-29
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    October 13, 2008 at 5:01 pm
    Link: Jesus the Magician`s Bowl is Found - Bowl dated between late 2nd century BC and the early 1st century AD is earliest reference of Christ. I-A-B: thoughts?
  2. Profile photo of jojobobisme
    jojobobisme Male 18-29
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    October 13, 2008 at 10:48 pm
    Alert Indiana Jones! He can call of his search for the grail.
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    Burnsy777 Male 13-17
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    October 13, 2008 at 10:50 pm
    Thoughts? A certain mod will come here and promote a flame war.
  4. Profile photo of jojobobisme
    jojobobisme Male 18-29
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    October 13, 2008 at 10:52 pm
    Yep, always happens. I`ve given up on defending my views... Even though I do believe in Jesus and God and am a Christian.
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    Giligadi Male 40-49
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    October 13, 2008 at 10:53 pm
    I`d eat me some froot loops out of that magic bowl.
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    ryanholmes1 Male 18-29
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    October 13, 2008 at 10:54 pm
    dont give up defending what you believe in!!
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    opiebreath Female 18-29
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    October 13, 2008 at 10:56 pm
    Well his existence isn`t really under speculation, his "miracles" are, right? I mean historically he probably, yeah, was there and was a leader.

    Am I mistaken?

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    ryanholmes1 Male 18-29
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    October 13, 2008 at 10:58 pm
    well a bowl that says jesus was a magician doesnt really mean anything. if he were alive today im sure people would jump at the chance to diminish what he was really doing by refering to it as mere magic
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    BasuraBlanca Male 18-29
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    October 13, 2008 at 11:02 pm
    Jesus came back a third time, people...
    You may have heard of him. They called him HOUDINI. I rest my case.

    And Giligadi?
    That bowl strikes me as more of a bowl for something like Coco Puffs.
    Or popcorn, if you have some friends over.

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    ryanholmes1 Male 18-29
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    October 13, 2008 at 11:05 pm
    please tell me the houdini thing is not really a case... much less one being rested already
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    LoofahBoy Male 18-29
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    October 13, 2008 at 11:09 pm
    So, basically Jesus will come back in the form of a broken link on IAB?

    Fix it, Fancy!

    Opie, as far as I know, even the Muslims accept his existence. Only as a mere prophet, but they still believed he existed in some way...

  12. Profile photo of TheBLB
    TheBLB Male 18-29
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    October 13, 2008 at 11:12 pm
    I think that this really isn`t a big deal. An incredibly small percent of historians argue the man never existed. If I saw or heard of someone doing what the bible says he did I would call it "Magic"... I can`t really think of another word besides "miracle"... and they both seem to hold the same weight.

    Jojojobisme- don`t give up, just realize that the internet isn`t an even grounds for argument. People are a lot less rude and ignorant in person.

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    iPirate Male 13-17
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    October 13, 2008 at 11:13 pm
    Well poo if that means he became a god in the eyes of millions because he could do magic tricks then i might as well start working on my david blaine bible.
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    person99 Male 18-29
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    October 13, 2008 at 11:17 pm
    "Well his existence isn`t really under speculation, his "miracles" are, right? I mean historically he probably, yeah, was there and was a leader.

    Am I mistaken?"

    This is the first historical evidence of Jesus that I am aware of. I am rather skeptical, as if there was some bearded guy rising from the dead healing people and turning water into bud light, there would be at least some documentation that old.

    It would be ironic and to me funny if, we found out that Jesus did indeed exist, but he was a traveling magician trying to make money, faking his own death for fame.

    Note: I`m as religious as a door mat. Science is my buddy.

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    person99 Male 18-29
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    October 13, 2008 at 11:20 pm
    Sorry for double post, but extra note:
    While it is around the time that the bible`s Jesus was around, this could obviously be a different Jesus.

    Note:
    Oh crap, water to bud light was Obama:

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    manorrd Male 30-39
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    October 13, 2008 at 11:20 pm
    In this case, the translation of "Magus" refers to one who understands the nature of reality and creation to its very core...NOT a fortune teller or an illusionist.

    It is a reference to someone who not only is one with the Macrocosm and the Microcosm, but one who has control over the elements of creation within himself.

    That`s the gist, anyway.

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    TheBLB Male 18-29
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    October 13, 2008 at 11:31 pm
    "Am I mistaken?"

    This is the first historical evidence of Jesus that I am aware of. I am rather skeptical, as if there was some bearded guy rising from the dead healing people and turning water into bud light, there would be at least some documentation that old."

    I know I sound like an old republican (I`m a Canadian Liberal though, cute huh?) but hear me out. I don`t usually debate on the internet because it becomes 14 year old kids swearing and trolling.

    Anyhow, the Bible itself is evidence. I probably wouldn`t buy the book myself if it was a group of stories that went like this "Once there was a man named Jesus, he was nice... he lived on a mountain made of candy."

    That would be me burning it. However, it`s NT author`s willingness to include dates, seasons, details about specific roman (and otherwise) officials, and especially Paul`s willingness to record it at a period of time when people reading it could go down the road and investigate it themse

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    TheBLB Male 18-29
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    October 13, 2008 at 11:33 pm
    ...themselves is something that I would hope people find interesting, at least.
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    Addle Male 18-29
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    October 13, 2008 at 11:37 pm
    Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you, Jesus the Magician!
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    boredfjord Male 13-17
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    October 13, 2008 at 11:42 pm
    Maybe it this guy was a Jesus Christ "cover band," so to speak. Someone who toured the empire performing Jesus` material after he died.
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    tweekthief Male 18-29
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    October 13, 2008 at 11:43 pm
    I dont know, that bowl is in reall good shape for being so old. Where exactly did they find it? the engravings look almost fresh, no dirt or anything in the grooves.
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    Zerocyde Male 18-29
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    October 13, 2008 at 11:51 pm
    Well, if Jesus did really exist, then of course he was a magician, like David Copperfield or something. If he can make the statue of liberty disappear, then I`m sure jesus had no problem making some water look like it turned into wine, lol.
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    Zerocyde Male 18-29
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    October 13, 2008 at 11:55 pm
    Also, how do we know that the cup is talking about the Christianity Christ? Was that Jesus really the first to be named Christ?
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    sporka Female 18-29
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    October 14, 2008 at 12:17 am
    Zerocyde, Christ is a title, not a name.

    Tweekthief, they probably cleaned it.


    And the first thing I thought of was Harry Potter.

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    shivinski Male 18-29
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    October 14, 2008 at 12:20 am
    They say dinosaurs are not real, i say this isnt real.
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    AnwarNova Male 18-29
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    October 14, 2008 at 12:47 am
    lol at Zerocyde!
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    AnwarNova Male 18-29
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    October 14, 2008 at 12:48 am
    people`s knowledge of history sometimes astounds me. it really blows me away.
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    SoCal Male 18-29
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    October 14, 2008 at 1:14 am
    that pretty much sums it all up for me.
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    ukulelemike Male 40-49
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    October 14, 2008 at 1:22 am
    Remember the burial box of "Judas, brother of Jesus"? Fake. This even looks like a fake-being that old, the handle is in remarkable shape, the lettering is immaculate, almost new-looking, whereas, after 2,000 years under water, a clay bowl should be anything but new-looking.
    Besides, "Christ" is a term which means `annoined one`, a term used for any king or priest who was annointed to that position. Jesus was THE Christ, recognized as the Hebrew Messiah, or Christ, in the Greek. And why would it use Greek words in Alexandria, Egypt, on an Egyptian artifact, during the time of Roman rule?
    No, this smells afully of fakery at worst, or nothing special, at best.
  30. Profile photo of TheBLB
    TheBLB Male 18-29
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    October 14, 2008 at 1:23 am
    "They say dinosaurs are not real, i say this isnt real."

    I`ve never met a single Christian, let alone human, who claims dinosaurs weren`t real. Have you ever actually met one of us?

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    ukulelemike Male 40-49
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    October 14, 2008 at 1:28 am
    One other possibility-since Jesus was known for His miracles, His name is invoked often by witches and wiccans as a `power word", a name or word which, in itself, is supposed to have power for spells. It`s possible, just as they do today, so magicians did, then. The book of Acts speaks of certain vagabond Jews who tried to envoke Jesus` name while exorcizing a devil-but instead of casting out the devil, they, themselves, were set upon by it, as they recognized Jesus` name and authority, but not their authoprity to use His name. This may be something similar.
  32. Profile photo of LoofahBoy
    LoofahBoy Male 18-29
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    October 14, 2008 at 1:37 am
    Yep, still a broken link.
  33. Profile photo of Devi3000
    Devi3000 Female 18-29
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    October 14, 2008 at 1:48 am
    Hey there`s my coffee cup. I was looking for that.
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    buttersrules Male 40-49
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    October 14, 2008 at 2:37 am
    The BLB, saying that the bible itself is proof of christ is no different to saying that L Ron`s books prove scientology.
    "it must be true, because it`s in the bible" makes as much sense as "it must be true, because its in Steven King`s `Christine`". If the existence of ancient texts is `proof`, then any religion with ancient texts is the true religion. But how can this be? It can`t, because it is contradictory. How can there be so many `true` faiths, when so many of these faiths claim that they, and they alone, are the only true faith.

    Belief in the bible involves faith, not fact. If you have faith, you believe that the bible is fact. If you do not have faith, then you do not believe the bible is fact. Simple. If you want to believe that the bible is divinely inspired, and is true, fine. But understand, that for a non believer, (or even for a believer) it is not proof.

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    Sillii Female 13-17
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    October 14, 2008 at 2:45 am
    Jesus the Magician?
    Okay, that`s a new name to me (I`m not religious).
    So, how come Jesus can perform all these miracles and can be a called a magician, but if someone else claimed they could do things like that (at least a hundred years or more ago) is immediately called a "WITCH!!!"?
    One of the things I could never fully understand. :/
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    TheNineXXX Male 18-29
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    October 14, 2008 at 3:21 am
    Lol! Sorry to burst your bubbles but the most realistic translation of: "DIA CHRSTOU O GOISTAIS" is "Healing Oil." I don`t know about you guys but that just makes more sense to me!
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    Painter13 Male 40-49
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    October 14, 2008 at 3:26 am
    You know what Jesus said to his fellow carpenters that were in the union before he died? "Don`t do anything till` I get back"
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    amandalea Female 13-17
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    October 14, 2008 at 4:15 am
    Devi3000, you just made my day.
    :P
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    hehehenerd Male 13-17
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    October 14, 2008 at 5:06 am
    I think its just another bowl from that time....nothing really proves anything here, other than they used bowls back then
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    newlife Male 40-49
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    October 14, 2008 at 6:19 am
    no where on there did it say it was used by Jesus...therefore it can`t be the "grail"....it`s probably one of the earliest forms of badmouthing or bad publicity advertising at the time....???
    Or just a hoax!!!
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    Tweetness Male 18-29
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    October 14, 2008 at 6:54 am
    this sounds like a bad Harry Potter book title: Harry Potter and the Magicians Bowl XD
  42. Profile photo of drogue
    drogue Male 40-49
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    October 14, 2008 at 7:05 am
    Sarah Silverman was right.
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    sidran32 Male 50-59
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    October 14, 2008 at 7:15 am
    ""Well his existence isn`t really under speculation, his "miracles" are, right? I mean historically he probably, yeah, was there and was a leader.

    Am I mistaken?"

    This is the first historical evidence of Jesus that I am aware of. I am rather skeptical, as if there was some bearded guy rising from the dead healing people and turning water into bud light, there would be at least some documentation that old."
    Then do your research. It is generally agreed upon academically that Jesus did in fact exist in history.

    Quote:
    "Most scholars in the fields of biblical studies and history agree that Jesus was a Jewish teacher from Galilee who was regarded as a healer, was baptized by John the Baptist, was accused of sedition against the Roman Empire, and on the orders of Roman Governor Pontius Pilate was sentenced to death by crucifixion."
    http://en.wikipedi

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    sidran32 Male 50-59
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    October 14, 2008 at 7:17 am
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity...
    Go ahead and check the source if you want.

    Even watching The History Channel, this fact is evident. I have not seen anyone reputable express doubt that Jesus did in fact exist. Rather, they have all stated that he did like it wasn`t even something up for debate at this point.

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    WDanC Male 18-29
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    October 14, 2008 at 7:29 am
    "The BLB, saying that the bible itself is proof of christ is no different to saying that L Ron`s books prove scientology.
    "it must be true, because it`s in the bible" makes as much sense as "it must be true, because its in Steven King`s `Christine`". If the existence of ancient texts is `proof`, then any religion with ancient texts is the true religion. But how can this be? It can`t, because it is contradictory. How can there be so many `true` faiths, when so many of these faiths claim that they, and they alone, are the only true faith.
    Belief in the bible involves faith, not fact. If you have faith, you believe that the bible is fact. If you do not have faith, then you do not believe the bible is fact. Simple. If you want to believe that the bible is divinely inspired, and is true, fine. But understand, that for a non believer, (or even for a believer) it is not proof."

    buttersrules: You took the words right out of my mouth. I want them back now,

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    skite111 Male 30-39
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    October 14, 2008 at 7:49 am
    There is actually no historical evidence that anything in the bible ever realy happened. The bible is just a big book of stories and Jesus is one of it`s characters.
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    DarthJay Male 30-39
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    October 14, 2008 at 8:12 am
    OMG! A religious debate on I-A-B?! There`s something new....

    ***rolls eyes***

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    DarthJay Male 30-39
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    October 14, 2008 at 8:16 am
    "There is actually no historical evidence that anything in the bible ever realy happened..."

    Since we`re "debating", look these up...

    -- An inscription at a Roman theater in Caesarea Martima reading, "Pontius Pilate, prefect of Judea".

    -- An inscription found in Northern Israel mentioning King David`s dynasty. The inscription is the oldest reference to any Biblical figure outside the Bible.

    -- The discovery of an ossuary, a stone box used for retaining bones of the deceased, inscribed with the name of Caiaphas, the high priest who presided over the trial of Jesus shortly before his crucifixion.

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    sidran32 Male 50-59
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    October 14, 2008 at 8:19 am
    And to pre-empt people jumping on the "Wikipedia sucks" bandwagon (because it`s happened before)...

    "Today, scholars generally agree that Jesus was a historical figure whose existence is authenticated both by Christian writers and by several Roman and Jewish historians."
    http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_7615...

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    DarthJay Male 30-39
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    October 14, 2008 at 8:31 am
    There are just too many EXTRA-Biblical references out there to back up events that happened in the Bible AND to back up that there was a man named Jesus who performed miracles around the same time period that the Bible says Jesus lived.

    Was Jesus the son of God? That`s faith.
    Did Jesus exist? That`s a fact.

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    DarthJay Male 30-39
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    October 14, 2008 at 8:33 am
    These are some non-gospel sources which refer to Jesus:

    Flavius Josephus - c90CE
    Suetonius - c120CE
    Tactitus - 110CE
    Pliny - c110CE
    Thallus - cited in c300CE
    Talmud - 200-500CE
    `Acts of Pilate`

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    starrstreet Female 18-29
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    October 14, 2008 at 8:38 am
    I always used to say when I was younger, "Jesus was a con-man" then I would get in trouble because I went to a Catholic school. =[
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    WolfStar Female 18-29
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    October 14, 2008 at 8:41 am
    `Christ` does not automatically equal Jesus. It`s a title, not a name.
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    domisgood Male 18-29
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    October 14, 2008 at 10:01 am
    yh darth jays got it spot on.

    Jesus did exist, i just can`t quite beleive if he did some of things it was claimed he did

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    TheBLB Male 18-29
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    October 14, 2008 at 10:15 am
    Buttersrules-

    There`s a significant difference between Harry Potter and the new testament. It doesn`t require faith to believe where the OT mentions Xerxes, Nebudchanezzar, or Soloman. It doesn`t require faith to read books written to actual people at actual places (Thessolonica, Corinth...) but this isn`t worth arguing anymore.

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    CJ-Boy-2010 Male 13-17
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    October 14, 2008 at 10:50 am
    I thought he was a jew, not a magician.
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    Papapimpin Male 18-29
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    October 14, 2008 at 10:58 am
    Religion boils down to a comfort for the masses, and a means of gaining power for a minority. It`s difficult to accept that this life is the only one, that you will work and toil here and amount to nothing more than fertilizer. How much nicer to believe in a pretty afterlife, with all our family to care for you and love you, a reward for all the suffering here. "He who holds the keys to heaven controls the world." (Thats from the da vinci code..hehe)

    Instead of existing here in a universe largely beyond our understanding, destroying ourselves through the nature of our species, isn`t it just nicer to believe that the man in the clouds has this thing all figured out? Coping mechanisms, and pretty damn popular ones too.

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    FreshMint Male 18-29
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    October 14, 2008 at 10:59 am
    Maybe in 2000 years from now peoples will be dumb enough to believe that David Blaine was a messie sent by God and realized miracles.
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    Papapimpin Male 18-29
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    October 14, 2008 at 10:59 am
    P.S.-All people are entitled to their beliefs-im just sharing mine.
  60. Profile photo of sixclaws13
    sixclaws13 Male 18-29
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    October 14, 2008 at 11:50 am
    The earliest pictures of Jesus showed him holding a magic wand, since it was seen of a symbol of power.
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    thesimpsons Male 18-29
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    October 14, 2008 at 11:59 am
    JEWS!!!!!!! I love jews
  62. Profile photo of elkingo
    elkingo Male 30-39
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    October 14, 2008 at 1:31 pm
    the bowl does *not* say "DIA CHRISTOU O GOISTAIS". It doesn`t even say "DIA CHRSTOU O GOISTAIS" (note how the article conveniently omits the troublesome vowel entirely in its transcription). It says "DIA CHRESTOU O GOISTAIS". "Chrestou" not equal to `Christ,` folks
  63. Profile photo of elkingo
    elkingo Male 30-39
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    October 14, 2008 at 1:33 pm
    There is greek letters in there, they simply neglect to translate.
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    dstbstr Male 18-29
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    October 14, 2008 at 2:45 pm
    From what I`ve heard, early Jewish historians claimed that Jesus did his miracles through sorcery. Note the lack of denying the miracles themselves.

    One thing that historians have been looking for has been the burial place of Jesus. The Jewish leaders of the time argued that the deciples stole the body while the guards were asleep. The Muslims sometimes argue that Jesus lived through the crucifixion (not likely). But nobody seems to have found his body, even though they accept his existence. Something to think about I suppose.

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    Mouichi Male 18-29
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    October 14, 2008 at 4:31 pm
    "drogue
    Male, 40-49, Western US
    105 Posts Tuesday, October 14, 2008 7:05:42 AM
    Sarah Silverman was right."

    -Rofl... I love Sarah Silverman.

    Anyways, I dislike media articles, because they post a title that implants an idea in your brain, then 3/4 of the way through the article, they say, "Oh, but this could entirely not be the case at all... it`s just speculation...". I get that it draws more people, I just think, subconsciously, people will refer to this as the Jesus Bowl, when it could actually have nothing to do with him at all...


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    kingdomCome Male 18-29
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    October 14, 2008 at 5:31 pm
    Hmm....seems a bit too neat to have been sitting in the ocean for 2000 years....
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    YuliasAcups Female 18-29
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    October 14, 2008 at 5:54 pm
    I love how they just make sh*t up
  68. Profile photo of KX250F
    KX250F Male 13-17
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    October 14, 2008 at 6:01 pm
    Christ is the marvelous magician
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    alfietoon Male 18-29
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    October 14, 2008 at 6:48 pm
    HAH PROOF "christ the magician" he was just a street magician like david blaine
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    October 14, 2008 at 7:19 pm
    At least i can email Blaine and ask "seriously man, that was pretty cool. But how did you do it?". I mean it`ll probably not get a response, but you know how that goes... I used to pray.

    I bet Blaine could turn water to wine, or turn 5 loaves and fishes into thousands. And he`s a f*cking twat.

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    elkingo Male 30-39
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    October 14, 2008 at 7:49 pm
    davy, just for you.. and just because you used to pray, and just because I do believe, and although it may not mean anything to you.. I am going to pray for God to convict you. Not to be harsh, not to be a douche, or not to be jealous. In the faith that something will occur, and you will notice it. If I am right, you stand to gain a lot, if I am wrong, you loose nothing.
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    Vagrant86 Male 18-29
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    October 15, 2008 at 9:37 am
    i don`t know much about this stuff but didn`t the bible talk about christ before he was born?
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    dormetheus Male 18-29
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    October 16, 2008 at 2:07 am
    Understand that there is a BIG difference between magic and illusion.
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    sixclaws13 Male 18-29
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    October 16, 2008 at 2:09 am
    Vagrant86, yes.

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