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And this was posted at 8:32:58 PM
when the LAST comment I specifically made regarding that subject was
"I do agree that you can be technically considered Wiccan" without any of the sexual rites but it just isn`t traditional and a lot of traditional Wiccans scoff at the new age fluff. But as long as you know what you are talking about and have done your research and aren`t just in it for "shock value" I don`t really care what you are. At 12:15:31 PM
So I was ALREADY agreeing with her basic point but she she chose to repeat it in an extremely obnoxious way and the time between the posts indicates that yes indeed the argu
Get off your high-horse. You have opinions, congratulations and welcome to the rest of the population of the world. If you think you`re somehow bashing her opinion by calling her little, or saying it ended a "VERY LONG TIME AGO" (which obviously it didn`t) your sadly mistaken, in fact, it makes you look like a douchebag.
This goes for everyone, shut up, arguing your opinions on this is just ridiculous; no one is ever going to win.
I love wanna be witches. its such a FAD.
we already agreed that there are different ways to practice Wicca but it isn`t true traditional Wicca. You obviously didn`t read all of the posts before trying to make a point.
VikingGuy, I`ve learned a little about norse, asatru and viking traditions... I find them quite fascinating. Due to their need to be firmly grounded and stronger in the physical sense, it makes sense that the gifts bestowed would have had much more effect in the physical world, whether through speech, thought or action.
However in my personal experiences, I`ve seen true change happen through my own practices and spellworking. I do believe I`ve mentioned about the Lottery Pick 3 win, for example. The numbers popped into my gf`s head literally moments after I finished the spell. I`ve done house cleansings with dramatic results, and have seen other effects through my psychopomp work and Journeying. So I`d have to wager that yes, in my experience, my practices do truly affect change.
As for aura reading, I don`t know a lot about it. I see auras, but I don`t know what the colours mean and I don`t have the inherent ability to interpret them.
staberind: Cute. Funny even. However, it`s been about six years since I last touched my role-play dice, and I use them strictly for games. (Since you asked, I have a standard set of D&D dice, indcluding the D6, D8, D10, D12, D20 and D10(%).) I don`t like using the standard six, as it causes more confusion in my mind. But as I`ve stated, this hasn`t grabbed my attention in about six years.
But that`s why we need to educate people on what we really are. It`s not all buffy/charmed/theCraft bullpoo...
Just like when you have Christians going out and killing people in the name of God. Not all Christians are horrible people but the bad seeds give the whole religion a bad name. Of course since it`s christianity no one tends to pay much attention to it but when it comes to the "dark and mysterious strange" world of Pagans people eat it up.
I do agree that you can be technically considered Wiccan" without any of the sexual rites but it just isn`t traditional and a lot of traditional Wiccans scoff at the new age fluff. But as long as you know what you are talking about and have done your research and aren`t just in it for "shock value" I don`t really care what you are.
Then I realized you`re in Australia. It`s anywhere between midnight and three am. for you, if I remember my time zones correctly...
The literal meaning for the word occult is "mystery," or "that which cannot be known." It will always be a mystery, and in striving to understand those mysteries even more, we become occult practitioners.
Magick is basically the same thing as prayer. You put your energy towards requesting something, whether for yourself (personal) or others (psychopomp). Most of the time, it is best to make sure that the request is made in such a way that emphasis is made towards harming no one. If getting more money only takes it out of someone else`s pocket (ie. getting a job someone else is more qualified) then it can backfire horribly. However, if you request it with the intent to harm none, for the good of all, then it may come as a lottery win (happened to us once... a pick 3 win that gave us $650) where no one is harmed by the benefits. No matter what, everyone uses en
For you, it doesn`t. As long as you`re comfortable in your stance and happy with the direction your life is taking in this regard, I have no issue with you whatsoever.
However, I will state that as each person is different, while you see one thing as bollocks, someone else will see it as perfectly legitimate. As long as we can respect these differences and understand it`s entirely subjective, then we can continue peacefully.
And no, I`m not singling out Wicca as a religion. To me, it`s all in the same bucket as christianity, scientology and flying-spaghetti-monsterism. No offence to anyone here, just my humble opinion.
You sound too fundamentalist Gardnerian in my opinion. There are ways to be initiated as a "wiccan" without being part of a coven. And honestly, if you were part of a well-established (ie. more than 100 years old)lineaged coven, then you wouldn`t be Wiccan, but rather a family trad witch. Wicca, in all reality, started with Gerald Gardner. It is no older than the 1950`s.
And yes, for those who don`t understand it: You can be a witch without being Wiccan. As I`ve said, I`m a shamanic witch, and don`t practice Wicca at all. Also as such, we are in most senses called to be solitary. It isn`t often that one gets called into the mysteries of shamanism or shamanic witchcraft.
We`re just like anybody else, and we don`t practice "sexual initiation rites" either. Anyone who demands that from a prospective member would be immediately called out for what they are : a sexual predator.Wicca is an earthbased tradition at its core.
They do exist, but they dont look like this:
My old college teacher practiced witchcraft, she didnt talk about it much, and she had to leave the college not long after for "getting too friendly with the students" Tbh i think they were just scared of her diferences, like people usually are.But she wanted to be our friends, aswell as our teacher, and the college didn`t like that.
Yes they do. A Witch is usually anyone who practices Magick but I can`t give you an exact definition off the top of my head. But not All Wiccans ar Witches and not all Witches are Wiccan. Magick is actually based around science believe it or not. But I won`t get into it. Saying Witches don`t exist is basically like saying priests don`t exist.
You haven`t met my mother-in-law...
Booze, money, and chicken.
I`m not even delving into the racial jokes I could make there.
But yes, sweet job. XD
also, GREAT Halloween post
Witches DON`T exist.
Paddles? I think I liked this thread better when it was fighting with itself. xD
this is also used, like in the old days, to take land from people. "HEy, their a witch, kill `em!" and bam, they got hteir land.
Am I the only one who had a disturbing oedipian mental image there?
-takes chill pill and crushes on mirror-
Anyone got a razor?
* The removal of the entire clitoris and labia
* Infibulation, which leaves women with only a tiny passage to pass water through"
That... that`s just cruel. D:
...can`t you just, not have a giant opinion on something, for once...seriously..-.-"so, i am not a mod, nor do i pretend to be one, or, indeed have the patience of one, but that is;  Off topic,  An attack out of no-where, Representative of most of her posts, and something that, as mods, you should condemn, not condone. As it was, no-one but alice and gothic were included, then it became a drama bomb, requiring some mods to come in and say "ya`ll shut up, now, ya hear?" viking is a jerk, he has never said he was not, he pulled alice up, just by doing that he was "doing your job", not telling you how to.Someone said something about a dictatorship. as iab is not a dictatorship, this post will be left fo
V that is true but the reason why wicca is sometimes called neo-pagan is basically because there are people who are following the Wiccan path without doing the rituals or being part of a coven. A lot of hardcore followers argue that this isn`t true wicca because they aren`t in a coven and are solitary doing their own thing. But since they are still following the Wiccan beliefs these people call themselves neo-Wiccan.Really it can get a bit confusing because there is always a lot of controversy between what is REAL Wicca and what is just fluffie rubbish. I personally believe to be a TRUE Wiccan you do need to be in a lineaged coven and and follow the traditional Gardernian Wicca tradition. But if you choose to follow a "neo-wiccan" path it doesn`t realy make your beliefs any less real. It just isn`t the traditonal way.
*edit: how hard is it to type "too", haaaa...?
Witches are SCARY!
I feel like a mother giving discipline..
Edit: But, as I said before, I like pretty much everyone here... I just don`t like watching people get called out for no reason.
Very toll-like of you, and not welcome here.
I don`t find the need to delete anything, it can serve as an example.
It was a request, NOT telling the mods what to do.
temper temper, pot/kettle.
How can something have a "new" or "neo" version if it`s only about sixty years old? What you`re talking about is the coven-based wicca followings, which are mainly Gardnerian and Alexandrian. However, there are many practicing solitarians, including Draconic (of which my partner is) Wiccan.
As for myself, I`m a witch, following in the Shamanic path. I`ve received the call as such, and am learning through my mentor. That`s all you need to know about what I do, though.
But no. Wicca is not STRICTLY coven-based, and while it *is* fertility based, as are most pagan religions, it does not dwell only on sex.
All your bickering about one religion or another.
In the end, you`re all dying and you`ll all end up back as part of the earth, one way or another.
Unless your ashes are shipped off to space, that is.
I like ya`ll, but ganging up on someone isn`t exactly cool, m-kay.
Anyways can we please just stop arguing about this. I hate making enemies just because we don`t agree about the same things. I`m finished "arguing". So if anyone else hasanything to say feel free because I won`t argue back. After all...it`s just the internet ;-)
Why would you go through all the trouble of finding a chicken, liquor, and money to prove that you`re not a witch, if you still have to live in the Witchville Quarantine!?
Whether that`s true or not, dilldog, is pretty much irrelevant.
I don`t know about you, but I found Gothic`s first post informing--whether it was her idea or not...and that was her intent. To inform.
Next time you have something interesting to say, I hope no one questions your credibility.
"Raped woman: This man raped me!
Judge: I see... SEND IN THE CHICKEN!
Raped Woman: W-What?
Judge: If the chicken dies with his legs pointing up, the man shall be condemned to 40 years in prison, but if it dies pointing down, he rapes you again. In front of all of us. Then we all rape you to death.
My research on GothicQueen`s `opinions` that took under a minute, and two clicks. It sounds to me like she reads articles in magazines while she waits to see the dentist, then passes those ideas off as her own.
fetish: 1. An object that is believed to have magical or spiritual powers, especially such an object associated with animistic or shamanistic religious practices. 2. An object of unreasonably excessive attention or reverence: made a fetish of punctuality. 3. Something, such as a material object or a nonsexual part of the body, that arouses sexual desire and may become necessary for sexual gratification. 4. An abnormally obsessive preoccupation or attachment; a fixation.(from dictionary.com)
I`m pretty sure that they were talking about definition 1, which is the oldest and most etymologically accurate definition.
nidonemo: ...huh? i dont have an opinion on witchcraft, wiccanism or paganism, each to their own.but seriously.. everything you say gothic, it just seems so faux to me..thats my opinion, if your interested... and dont reply with something all pissy, im only voicing my own opinion on you.I think you try way to hard to be interesting.
...can`t you just, not have a giant opinion on something, for once...seriously..-.-
people are so drated up.
We are? Most Scots I know prefer just to keep collecting the eggs. Better long-term food prospects.
but for most, Wicca is a solitary religion, something you may have learn from books,lectures, or even through personal experience, some may learn from their families.
and keep in mind that there are many types of wicca
This being said no I am no Wiccan. But I know a lot of people who THINK they are. I`m just an Eclectic Pagan right now as I haven`t realy connected with any one path.
Don`t you think your exxagerating? Just a little bit?
As for this video though since I haven`t really commented on it I am not shocked in the least. A lot of places in Africa either accept witchcraft or condemn it as evil. It`s just different cultures and beliefs. Who are we to judge their ways as harsh as they may seem to us?
Or just make sure you don`t forget to sleep with him.
Especially since it`s now fashionable in Western culture to be a witch. I mean, everyone now is running around saying "I`m wicca."
Religion is now fad in America.
Actually, it`s a lot more likely to happen out west, or in the north. Just sayin`.
Now, lets sell them some AK-47s!
... I got better...