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Completely wrong, bud. I fully appreciate the improbability of being born, let alone the improbability of life even existing. Probably more so than you. I`m not suggesting life and conception is trivial, I just happen to believe that the ability to end a pregnancy should be a legal option for mothers in our day and age. The alternative is more horrible.
A lot of pro-life people seem to be having some moral issue with the actual killing and are making that their main argument. I don`t particularly enjoy that fetuses are terminated, either, but I don`t have to in order to be pro-choice. If a woman feels compelled to end a pregnancy, it`s her body! Who are you to impose a moral sanction on their being?
Also, I believe the reason people do not understand why abortion is viewed as wrong by some is a lack of awe at the marvel that is life.
You have a better chance at winning the lottery every day for the rest of your life, than you did at being born. The fact that you are even here and reading this is mind boggling. Life is so rare and so precious, that it should be protected at all costs.
People have lost all respect for what is precious, and assume that an individual is just another human. You are not just another human. You are unique, and you have value because you exist. No one should have the right to remove that value.
But to be honest before 8 weeks that thing looks like something from alien o.O...
Not just because. I think she was arguing that complaining about the fetus feeling pain at all times a fetus is usually aborted is a non-argument. It`s preferable to kill it than for a pregnancy to be on-going under physical or emotional duress. And before you try and spin that, I don`t agree with abortions done out of sheer convenience - I frown on that. But overall, it should be a woman`s choice to end a pregnancy she is having. As GothicQueen has tried to point out, this is better than illegalizing the practice altogether.
"Back alley abortions are gruesome"
Any abortion is gruesome. I don`t have to like it in order to prefer it to be legal.
if abortions are made illegal, they will still occur...just, not under supervision, and putting the mother life at risk also.Back alley abortions are gruesome, but some women become desperate. abortions should always be kept legal simply because of that, not every foetus is wanted... and each human being, being the mother or father should have their own say, and it should be their choice, and noone elses.
"and it is just a lump of cells. Sorry. The soul doesn`t even enter until after birth."
Good to know you`ve unlocked one of the great mysteries of the universe.
Again do your research before you try to validate a point.
I also forgot to add the fact that if abortion is illegal women will STILL try to have abortions anyway and will look for other ways to rid themselves of the pregnancy. And believe me those ways aren`t very safe at all. At least with abortions legal they can have it done safely in a medical environment by people who know what their doing insteaod of swalloing cyanide and sticking knifes inside them to do it themself. So if you think abortions should be illegal wow...you really have put no thought of the consequences.
britt566: "Also if the woman doesn`t want the baby and it was a mistake of getting pregnant then MAYBE she shouldn`t have been HAVING SEX.... just saying..."You didn`t address rape. What if they didn`t choose to have sex?
"Any woman who will abort her baby is NO woman in my book."
How fortuitous, then, that no medical doctors follow your book.
"So you are saying it is right to just kill the baby while its still in the mother."
She wasn`t arguing right or wrong, ditz. You don`t have to agree with the practice or the idea, but don`t deny that right to other people. God, what`s wrong with religious folks always wanting to impose on the freedoms of other people? You`re not scoring points with anyone.
So you are saying it is right to just kill the baby while its still in the mother. That makes it right....? Yes I know there are a lot of people out there who don`t want their children and abuse them and the foster care homes they go into are not always loving, but KILLING the baby WHILE its STILL in the mothers belly. While it DOESN`T EVEN KNOW WHAT`S GOING ON! It just feels pain... horrible pain... and then it dies... and gets sucked up into a tube that goes to some trash can thing. BUT NOOOOO. It`s just fine. You are "SAVING" the baby from a bad life... yet it is in the middle of being chopped up into little pieces, DOESN`T KNOW WHAT`S GOING ON, doesnt know anythi
all abolishing abortion is going to do is cause more women having children that are not fit to be parents. More people living on welfare, more children being put up for adoption, more children being put into foster care because not every unwanted child is adopted.
You can`t guarentee the ones who are adopted or put into foster care will be put in loving caring families. I can tell you this for a fact because of my own fathers life in foster homes. And as for health wise for women, If abortions ar illegal not only would it hurt the unwanted children and I can bet you the rate of post partum depression and psycosis would go up and cause more breakdowns and women murdering their children after birth. Just turn on the news or go online and see how many women have murdered theire newborn children or just left them for dead.
burnin_roses how is abortion horrible? You don`t see people protesting spontaneous miscarriages. Abortion is the same thing and shouldn`t be protested."
You don`t really see many people protesting car crashes either, do you? Probably because you can`t help those. But if I were to go running down people on the sidewalk, I bet someone would protest.
you mean arabic music?
It`s ending a "life" whether your two conditions are met or not! I like how conservative christian types will fervently believe whatever both settles their conscience and is convenient for them. Yeahaw, DuckBoy87, aborting a baby is only ending a "life" when it`s not a rape baby.
Incidentally, I`m not sure how much of a say men have in this discussion, anyway. I`ll be glad to hear about how much of a degree of influence we feel we should have in the discussion once we`re able to become pregnant and be put under the stress and emotional duress of wanting to no longer be pregnant, for whatever reason. Until then, it`s not a men`s issue.
a home sick abortion ;)
seriously everyone why so serious :)
Then we`ll declare you permanently dead when you have your first minor heart attack?
I`m still not convinced there is a soul. I like how you sound so self-assured.
"Logic dictates that if your dead when your heart stops, Your alive when it starts."
No, logic dictates that you are alive when you are no longer a parasitic being fully dependent upon your mother whilst in the womb. And by the way, death isn`t as easily defined by a non-beating heart, but even if it were, you`re suggesting we`re dead for 12-13 weeks after conception. What the hell? Not being born yet is simply not being born yet.
Why are people who are pro-life at least come up with the solution to keep abortion legal before thw 12th-13th week instead of trying to abolish it completely?"
if that was aimed at me, i never said im pro-life i said im pro-choice, every person should have the chance to make that decision themselves. But myself personally, i could never even think about doing it unless under certain circumstances.In my mind, that foetus is a child, whether it 1 day from being concived, or about to be born.. it makes no difference to me. If two people are gonna sleep together, they should know what can come of it.
Why are people who are pro-life at least come up with the solution to keep abortion legal before thw 12th-13th week instead of trying to abolish it completely?
we were all a "lump of cells" then...including you.im pro-choice .. but i dont agree with what you said, if you think abortion is okay, at least understand that its a potential life.as soon as its concieved, its a life.
Logic dictates that if your dead when your heart stops, Your alive when it starts.
No theology involved there.
Im saying that have 3 post in a row is unnecessary
"How somebody can just call that a "lump of cells" is beyond me. From conception on its a human being and should have all the rights we have."
If he can state his opinion I can state mine.
Its right behind the kidney
Wow, no pro-life vs pro-choice debate yet? Damn.
And holy poo the womb is scary, I`m glad I don`t remember it.