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Can you guys believe I was able to type all that out without laughing?
And as for health wise for women, If abortions ar illegal not only would it hurt the unwanted children and god only knows if the rate of post partum depression and psycosis would go up and cause more breakdowns and women murdering their children after birth.
Then there are the women that will STILL try to abort anyway. They will do whateverthey can to be rid of the pregnancy whther they punch themselves in the stomach, order abortion pills offline, swallow poison, or insert objects inside of them to break apart the pregnancy OR seek out illegal abortionists that have no idea what they are doing most likely and have the woman die of infection.
But yes by all means making abortion illegal with solve all of our problems and make women "realize their mistakes in the eyes of God".
Cause the actuality of it, is that all it is going to do is cause more women having children that are not fit to be parents. Moire people living on welfare, more children being put up for adoption, more children being put into foster care because not every unwanted child is adopted.
You can guarentee the ones who are adopted or put into foster care will be put in loving caring families. My own father was in foster care his whole life, he never even learned to read or write and he is in his 40`s because no one bothered to help him. My little brother on the other hand is lucky. Yes my little brother I will most likely NEVER meet was put up for adoption when he was born but thank god my mother actually picked out the parents and everything ahead of time so he didn`t rot in an orphanage.
If "god" gave us free will then he has never taken any choice we could make off the table. You taking this choice away, does that make you better than god? You think you know more than god did when he gave us that choice? Are you saying he is wrong for doing so? You think you are really in the position of passing judgment on others? You want to take away a choice from others that god didn`t even do?
Protest it all you want, go outside Planned Parenthood until the day you die, but try to impose and mandate your belief through the government? What would god think about that? Doesn`t the bible say something along the lines that the government is of man and not of him.
Everyone has different definitions of right and wrong. So you cannot answer that question that simply. Everyone has a definition definition of when human life has begun. I believe human life begins after a conscious will to live. Sense of self is a huge factor I put into whether something is a person or not.
Have an open mind and try to understand that your opinion is yours and try not to push it on others or judge them. They came to different conclusions with the same in depth thinking that you did. That is why there must be a choice.
To those who support pro-choice:
Remember that your mother could`ve taken the abortion route, BUT SHE DIDN`T.
Do you think your mother thought of you as less than a person once she knew she was carrying you???
Turn the tables on yourselves and realize that if YOUR MOTHER chose ABORTION then you wouldn`t be around.
Do you think God (or whatever higher being you subscribe to) will take the line, "But it is MY body" as a good argument for denying an unborn child his/her life?
Yes...it`s "your" body, your choice. We humans have free will. We can choose RIGHT or choose WRONG.
Now ask yourselves is it right or wrong to choose death/suppression of life????
It was definitely not the same as shooting your daughter after feeling like you don`t want to take care of her anymore. Important difference? The daughter that person described had developed a sense of self, had morals, thoughts, feelings, aspirations, goals, conscious will to live... do you see where I`m going with this?
Just because you believe that it is a person in the way we are doesn`t mean I do. Please try to respect that I believe this through much thinking and evaluation of the topic as do many others.
Common... a little ball of cells you can hardly see with your own eye counts as a person? Yeah it has potential to be a person but so do all the eggs in my body, which is the reason some people are against contraception.
To me a person has to have feelings, emotions, thoughts, motives etc. or their just a shell. Which is why I am not against pulling a plug when a human is past the point of recovering from brain damage if they can`t think, or be able to do basic involuntary functions such as breathing without help.
My family had to do it with my baby sister and it was very sad but my dad realized that it would be a very selfish and painful thing on the family to keep her on life support for the rest of her "life."
Pregnancy is expensive (prenatal care is astronomical) and can be physically dangerous to the woman`s body. It`s not a walk in the park, nor is it easily afforded.
I`m a couple hours late on this, but I have to say something.
keith2, that was so uncalled for. I`m glad you`ve become the Piety Police and are so clear of conscience and sin that YOU can call out the wrong-doers and even condemn them. We need more people like you...
As GothicQueen explained, she was in a committed relationship and was using protection. How dare you accuse her of being a whore when she was being just as careful as the next woman not to become pregnant? Retroactively calling her out on her "failure" to use a condom does not solve anything.
I can`t believe the arrogance some of you people display, assuming that GothicQueen and other women like her made the decision recklessly and without a second thought. It is without a question one of the most difficult decisions a woman could ever make in her lifetime.
Has anyone else seen pictures of aborted fetuses? They sorta look like gummy bears. Which brings up the question: Do you bite the head off first, or eat it whole?
good night darling :-)
Really. Why should I have a kid I don`t want?
It isn`t up to you. It isn`t up to the government. It`s up to me and me only. If you and your girlfriend want to keep a baby if she gets pregnant then fine. Keep the baby. Don`t get an abortion.
But why should I or any other woman have to? What gives you the right? Until you know what pregnancy feels like or giving birth feels like then you can preach to me about abortion.
And for the women that are pro-life they should really just stop getting in to other peoples business. I don`t regret my decision at all and I made the right choice for me. And no amount of name calling is going to fix that. I already got enough of that just getting into the clinic in the first place. I don`t care what some guy on the internetz calls me.
But yeah... you are entitled to your opinion but still...lmao you`re funny
GothicQueen you are a whore and a murderer. You want to whore it up but don`t want to pay the consequences. Those unborn babies are freakin humans. I think you need to be aborted.
I`m glad you had your child and you felt you were capable enough to go through with it okay. I really am. But i wasn`t and I`m glad I had that choice instead of having the govern
Ron Paul `08
the point i`m trying to make is that adoption solves the problem of not wanting a child that a woman has conceived.
killing is killing. end of story.
p.s. i HAD my child and i was also desperately poor.
So it`s okay to use that as a form of punishment? A mistake was made so now i have togo through 9 months of sufering and god knows how many hours of excruciating labor to have a baby I never wanted?
yes that makes PERFECT sense. It`s all so clear
I`m just curious, how long did you take to write that statement for me just so you could be sure your grammar and spelling mistakes were fixed. Hmm? Don`t say you didn`t, because you would be a liar. I choose not to because its a waste of time on a forum setting where you would still be able to understand exactly what I said. All your doing is trying to be sneaky in saying that your more intelligent then me. Unfortunately, I seen through your ploy. Unfortunately, your exactly like the guy on the "annoying"
So you agree it`s a kid and it`s alive, but just think it`s unfortunate that little things like that might make it morally murky to kill it?
Quick note: If ANYONE was "anti-choice" there`d be protests outside Starbucks, not Abortion Clinics, obviously there`s another point at play here, and that point is that they believe there is a group of people without the most fundamental rights, who should have them.
And I agree with them, rights should be based on what they are, not where they are or when they are, and right now that is not the case.
The true fact is your mindless drones believing what your told, by the first side that tells you. After you accept that as "truth" you dont want to hear the other side at all, and say its wrong.
Really? Those two are the best choices?
Besides I can not vote for a guy who up untill the stock market dropped 700 points in one day said the economy was sound, then said we are in a time of economic trouble.
end of story. espically when they are as fanatical as her. And i have my reasons
palin sucks. i don` care if biden lied through his teeth. Anyone is better than Palin
Palin ftw. Biden... great speaker, hollow man. I`d invite him over for dinner...I wouldn`t elect him Vice President.
Not denying that both candidates lied, sure they both did. Palin was equally if not more guilty of the offense though.
I`m already bored. I`m going to go watch 1930`s inventions again.
Sorry if I seemed a little too dramatic for you to take! Sometimes over exaggeration is just an easy way for me to paint a picture.
But totally ignore the rest of what I said agreeing that Joe Biden made factual errors and that I would like to see a list of both sides slip ups.
Seems like Pat is sad because Biden clearly won the debate and it looks like his ticket isn`t wining in November... awwww.
However, not knowing where your ticket stands on such a widely-publicized issue is inexcusable. Either that or she knew, but didn`t want to alienate gay voters.
Either way here`s the deal. She`s either going to alienate gay voters when her party issues a retraction of that statement. Or she`s going to alienate Conservative Christian votes when the Republican party suddenly announces they support civil union rights.
Good job, hockey mom.
The drating President of the United States of America is the most prestigous posistion in the world.
Joe six-pack as the conservatives love to talk about has no business running for President.
Everyone is praising Palin for being a folksy hockey mom and just like an average American.
Well I sure as hell don`t want some average American Idiot running the most powerful country in the world. I certainly don`t want a hockey mom, former beauty queen a heartbeat away from the presidency.
The President should be well educated above all else, the cream of the intellectual crop.
Barack Obama and Joe Biden each have two degrees Both have B.A.`s in Political Science and both jave J.D`s in Law!
John McCain has a certificate from Annapolis where he was ranked in the bottom of his class. Sarah Palain has a B.S. in communications.
Someone explain to me how the McCain/Palin ticket is more qualified.
Haha, that sounds like the kind of childish, copout answer a high school freshman would give a debate team meeting. FAIL
Obama isn`t any better though. Maybe the only alternative is moving to Europe. Are things as f-ed up over there as they are here?
If Palin did it it would be front page news and the following IAB post would be rated 3.8. Such a double standard.
As far as Rove, he may be one of the most hated men in America, but he IS correct. It doesn`t matter who says it, Biden once again proved he`s a gaffe machine, and the facts don`t lie.
Finally a post on IAB that calls out the other side.
Fair and balanced? Lets go make a lit of both of their factual mistakes then. I do not deny that Biden made errors but the all the negatives of the McCain/Palin ticket surely outweigh his mistakes.
I just want someone competent.
Like the guy who conviently got cut off said, Palin used false facts too, and she completely walked around most of the questions and changed the subject to another issue where she would have the oppurtunity to take a jab.
It`s drating hillarious to hear conservatives talk about the "Liberal Media" as if it is some kind of magical entity that brainwashes Americans into voting for liberals. If that were the case Al Gore would be finishing off his 8 years instead of George W. Bush.
There is just as much "Conservative Media" out there. Faux News is case in point, they don`t do proper research, any one who played Mass Effect can tell you that. They report on hot-button issues that they know will fire up their conservative audience. Like lying about the amount of sexual material in a video game.
I am not inclined to believe anything I see in campaign commercials or on Faux News.
Three weeks in Iraq=/=7 years in Afghanistan.
Then what is it, four weeks?
So pray God you guys vote Obama.
They`ll be sorry, that`s all I`ll say.